NationStates Jolt Archive


Oklahoma: home of the authoritarians and homophobes

Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:37
or is it? Yeah, it is. Racists too. I'm hating my state right about now. Sally Kern was bad enough....I have no control over the woman being elected though, she's not in my district. I did feel a great amount of pride and victory when Mr. Rinehart wasn't elected again. I had something to do with booting his butt out (not much though, he did enough).

I was almost starting to feel good, you know, guy cheats people, breaks the law, makes a 'comic book' full of homophobic paranoia and misspellings and DOESN'T GET ELECTED! It's a complete 180 degree turn from what usually happens.

However, sadly, I recently found out my neighbors to the south keep re-electing another authoritarian idiot.

Hence the purpose of the thread.

http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=8697156

Gah! How stupid.

I have ZERO control over this man, I'm not even remotely in his district, but I wrote him an email anyway. To which he replied

Move to Moore or mind your own business

Okay, he worded it more clumsy and took 4 paragraphs and 10 typos to say it, but it was the general gist.

I want to move, but I fear that this idoicy goes on all over the world. :(
Xomic
13-08-2008, 20:40
where is Moore?

At least your guys write back to you. I wrote to Parliament once and they didn't reply
Yootopia
13-08-2008, 20:41
Uhu. Livejournal much?
Hotwife
13-08-2008, 20:42
I guess he never heard of the First Amendment, either, or the 14th.
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:42
Uhu. Livejournal much?

fuck you. Also, um.....yeah, fuck you.
Sane Outcasts
13-08-2008, 20:46
I guess he never heard of the First Amendment, either, or the 14th.

No, he just doesn't care:

The Moore Republican says he realizes such a law might not pass constitutional muster, but says he plans to pursue it anyway.
Hotwife
13-08-2008, 20:49
Reading his website http://www.paulw.org/

it's pretty clear he's a fucking idiot.
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:50
No, he just doesn't care:

http://www.themooreamerican.com/local/local_story_205102650.html

He really thinks it might be okay. The part that shocks me is he really thinks this might be okay.

The M.O. of the local politician lately has been horribly authoritarian.
Hotwife
13-08-2008, 20:51
“These gang members identify themselves by their distinctive tattoo markings or their clothing — like sports jerseys with numbers on them.”

I guess we'll have to arrest the high school football team...
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:51
Reading his website http://www.paulw.org/

it's pretty clear he's a fucking idiot.

He always has been.......and they keep electing him. I thought possibly this would be enough for them to realize he's bad news, but it wasn't. :( He's also trying to ban dogs.
Andaluciae
13-08-2008, 20:52
75% support?

Perhaps we should consider nuclear sterilization with a low yield tactical nuclear weapon for this place known as "Moore".
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:53
75% support?

Perhaps we should consider nuclear sterilization with a low yield tactical nuclear weapon for this place known as "Moore".

It almost sounds like a plan. I bet you could get them to vote for it too! Just dress it up as "for the children".
Hotwife
13-08-2008, 20:53
He always has been.......and they keep electing him. I thought possibly this would be enough for them to realize he's bad news, but it wasn't. :( He's also trying to ban dogs.

Well, play up the ban on dogs, because that's what will get him in the end.

People loved Old Yeller, and you can't vote against dogs.
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 20:54
Well, play up the ban on dogs, because that's what will get him in the end.

People loved Old Yeller, and you can't vote against dogs.

Oh, I'm sorry, not all dogs, just ones he doesn't like.
Xomic
13-08-2008, 21:04
Well, play up the ban on dogs, because that's what will get him in the end.

People loved Old Yeller, and you can't vote against dogs.

I hate dogs.

They're like wolves who've lost all self respect they once had for themselves

75% support?

Perhaps we should consider nuclear sterilization with a low yield tactical nuclear weapon for this place known as "Moore".

Then it's agreed, Moore Nukes nuking Moore.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-08-2008, 21:08
Well if he gets his way, there goes every club, fraternity and church in the state. :p
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-08-2008, 21:08
Oh, I'm sorry, not all dogs, just ones he doesn't like.

Like what? Pit Bulls? Rottweilers? Chihuahuas? They put a ban on Pit Bull and Pit Bull mixes in Denver. People get around that easily by having a vet call it something else.

But that is pretty idiotic. And the gang thing. Does he realize how many wannabees and copycats there are? just because someone wears gang symbols, doesn't mean he/she is a gang member (although a non-member wearing the symbols is in danger from the gang). And there are a significant number of ex-gangsters who still have the tats, but no longer run with the gang.

Obviously, the man's a moron. Unfortunately, they're everywhere - Oklahoma doesn't own the patent on stupid.
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 21:12
Well if he gets his way, there goes every club, fraternity and church in the state. :p

I say we lock up the kids at the Catholic school, they all wear the same outfits and have an insignia on each of their shirts, jackets, and backpacks.

I know all of them aren't actual criminals, but I bet some of them have broken some laws.

Elementary aged kids are notorious for picking their nose and wiping it places, that is vandalism!
Heikoku 2
13-08-2008, 21:13
Oklahoma doesn't own the patent on stupid.

Nope, but it has quite a large production of it.
Maineiacs
13-08-2008, 21:14
Working hypothesis: this moron is why God keeps throwing tornadoes at Oklahoma.
Ifreann
13-08-2008, 21:21
I say we lock up the kids at the Catholic school, they all wear the same outfits and have an insignia on each of their shirts, jackets, and backpacks.

I know all of them aren't actual criminals, but I bet some of them have broken some laws.

Elementary aged kids are notorious for picking their nose and wiping it places, that is vandalism!

You could get elected in Moore so easily.
Grave_n_idle
13-08-2008, 21:46
or is it? Yeah, it is. Racists too. I'm hating my state right about now. Sally Kern was bad enough....I have no control over the woman being elected though, she's not in my district. I did feel a great amount of pride and victory when Mr. Rinehart wasn't elected again. I had something to do with booting his butt out (not much though, he did enough).

I was almost starting to feel good, you know, guy cheats people, breaks the law, makes a 'comic book' full of homophobic paranoia and misspellings and DOESN'T GET ELECTED! It's a complete 180 degree turn from what usually happens.

However, sadly, I recently found out my neighbors to the south keep re-electing another authoritarian idiot.

Hence the purpose of the thread.

http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=8697156

Gah! How stupid.

I have ZERO control over this man, I'm not even remotely in his district, but I wrote him an email anyway. To which he replied

Okay, he worded it more clumsy and took 4 paragraphs and 10 typos to say it, but it was the general gist.

I want to move, but I fear that this idoicy goes on all over the world. :(

Wow. Interesting feller.

Looking through his material, he seems to have two solutions to any problem - ban it, or create a committee. My guess, then - is that he is a Bush-style Republican. Opposes abortion, opposes sex education, wants mandatory pledges in classrooms, and mandatory Ten Commandments in schools. An Intelligent Design proponent. Runs on a No Gay Marriage platform. Anti euthanasia. Anti-cloning... anti-organ harvesting? Wants to mandate school uniforms? Wants to ban pornography?

Pro Death Penalty?


What ticket does he run on, Oklahoma Nazi Party?
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 22:30
Wow. Interesting feller.

Looking through his material, he seems to have two solutions to any problem - ban it, or create a committee. My guess, then - is that he is a Bush-style Republican. Opposes abortion, opposes sex education, wants mandatory pledges in classrooms, and mandatory Ten Commandments in schools. An Intelligent Design proponent. Runs on a No Gay Marriage platform. Anti euthanasia. Anti-cloning... anti-organ harvesting? Wants to mandate school uniforms? Wants to ban pornography?

Pro Death Penalty?


What ticket does he run on, Oklahoma Nazi Party?

He's a republican.

I just had an epiphany though, maybe I'm so anti-government because all of my experiences with the government has been people like this?

I don't exactly fit "the mold" in Oklahoma, and if you don't "fit the mold" then the solution is to ban you.
Ifreann
13-08-2008, 22:32
If they even try and pass a Smunkee ban I'm nuking them from orbit.
Conserative Morality
13-08-2008, 22:47
He's a republican.

I just had an epiphany though, maybe I'm so anti-government because all of my experiences with the government has been people like this?

And part of THAT has to do with too many people like that are in the government.:D
Sdaeriji
13-08-2008, 22:51
But hey, you guys have a basketball team! The Oklahoma City Barons/Bison/Energy/Marshalls/Wind/Thunder!
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 22:55
But hey, you guys have a basketball team! The Oklahoma City Barons/Bison/Energy/Marshalls/Wind/Thunder!

I didn't want them! Can't we give them back? *and the major tax increase too?!

I voted against everything they told us to vote for.......no luck. The elderly people should have their voter registrations ripped up. :mad:
Ifreann
13-08-2008, 22:56
But hey, you guys have a basketball team! The Oklahoma City Barons/Bison/Energy/Marshalls/Wind/Thunder!

Not for long they don't.
Katganistan
13-08-2008, 22:56
Aw, Smunk, move out of that shithole.

Come East, Young Lady!
Sdaeriji
13-08-2008, 22:59
I didn't want them! Can't we give them back? *and the major tax increase too?!

I voted against everything they told us to vote for.......no luck. The elderly people should have their voter registrations ripped up. :mad:

But why would you want to do that? Taxpayers funding the playthings of the super wealthy is as American as mom or apple pie!
Redwulf
13-08-2008, 23:04
Uhu. Livejournal much?

fuck you. Also, um.....yeah, fuck you.

Damn it, Yootopia, you broke the Smunkee.

Seriously, Smunk, your response seems a bit strongly worded but I agree with the general sentiment, not a blog post in the least.
Dontgonearthere
13-08-2008, 23:07
Sounds rather similar to the people in DC who make noises about banning video games.
I feel for ya. Having somebody like that in your local government must be awful. You should try to get him elected to a higher office where he can do less harm :p
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 23:58
But why would you want to do that? Taxpayers funding the playthings of the super wealthy is as American as mom or apple pie!

Hey, I have no problem paying for the minor league baseball team, for $30 my whole family can go for 3 hours of entertainment (and 2 hours of men in tight pants standing around).

It wasn't done so shady though either.
Grave_n_idle
14-08-2008, 00:05
He's a republican.


No - that's what he calls himself. You SEE how many committees that guy has started (or been involved in starting?). He's in (or been in) like a million committees as well, I see - so that looks a bit like self-interest... but damn!

Small government - Republican principle. Hello?

Well, I guess he's pssed all over fiscal responsibility and non-intrusive government already, so what the hell.

We need a new name for these politicians who spend, increase government, but try to ban everything.

The Nazi thing wasn't really flippant, either - all his pro-this and anti-that stuff... the uniforms and the pledges and the religious indoctrination? Hitler Youth was literally the first image that came to mind.


I just had an epiphany though, maybe I'm so anti-government because all of my experiences with the government has been people like this?


Maybe. That didn't make me anti-government, it made me anti 'democratic'. I see the sort of stupid crap that gets elected, and I ask myself "why do they let people that vote for stuff like THIS vote?"


I don't exactly fit "the mold" in Oklahoma, and if you don't "fit the mold" then the solution is to ban you.

Welcome to Georgia, too.
Derscon
14-08-2008, 00:08
No - that's what he calls himself. You SEE how many committees that guy has started (or been involved in starting?). He's in (or been in) like a million committees as well, I see - so that looks a bit like self-interest... but damn!

Small government - Republican principle. Hello?

Well, I guess he's pssed all over fiscal responsibility and non-intrusive government already, so what the hell.

We need a new name for these politicians who spend, increase government, but try to ban everything.

The Nazi thing wasn't really flippant, either - all his pro-this and anti-that stuff... the uniforms and the pledges and the religious indoctrination? Hitler Youth was literally the first image that came to mind.



Maybe. That didn't make me anti-government, it made me anti 'democratic'. I see the sort of stupid crap that gets elected, and I ask myself "why do they let people that vote for stuff like THIS vote?"



Welcome to Georgia, too.

Georgia? Welcome to the human race. Leave your individuality at the door.
Hurdegaryp
14-08-2008, 00:12
Given the state of affairs as seen in the last eight years, I wouldn't be surprised at all if sooner or later president Paul Wesselhoft will be leader of the free world.
West Pacific Asia
14-08-2008, 00:12
So this guys only sensible idea is the School Uniform one then.

I'd arrange for him to have an "accident". Maybe something from a Nuclear reactor slipped into his tea.........Or whatever he drinks.
Hurdegaryp
14-08-2008, 00:14
But West Pacific Asia, he's a Republican. Aren't Republicans immune to "accidents" and political murder?
New Manvir
14-08-2008, 00:17
So this guys only sensible idea is the School Uniform one then.

I'd arrange for him to have an "accident". Maybe something from a Nuclear reactor slipped into his tea.........Or whatever he drinks.

you could ask the Russians for help on that one.
West Pacific Asia
14-08-2008, 00:18
I dunno. Ford & Reagen nearly got capped.

Lincoln was one wasn't he?
Derscon
14-08-2008, 00:18
So this guys only sensible idea is the School Uniform one then.

Speaking of conformity...
Gun Manufacturers
14-08-2008, 00:19
or is it? Yeah, it is. Racists too. I'm hating my state right about now. Sally Kern was bad enough....I have no control over the woman being elected though, she's not in my district. I did feel a great amount of pride and victory when Mr. Rinehart wasn't elected again. I had something to do with booting his butt out (not much though, he did enough).

I was almost starting to feel good, you know, guy cheats people, breaks the law, makes a 'comic book' full of homophobic paranoia and misspellings and DOESN'T GET ELECTED! It's a complete 180 degree turn from what usually happens.

However, sadly, I recently found out my neighbors to the south keep re-electing another authoritarian idiot.

Hence the purpose of the thread.

http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=8697156

Gah! How stupid.

I have ZERO control over this man, I'm not even remotely in his district, but I wrote him an email anyway. To which he replied



Okay, he worded it more clumsy and took 4 paragraphs and 10 typos to say it, but it was the general gist.

I want to move, but I fear that this idoicy goes on all over the world. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3jRJr5IGQ

:D
Jello Biafra
14-08-2008, 00:26
Obviously, the man's a moron.A Moore-on, even.
Geniasis
14-08-2008, 00:33
It almost sounds like a plan. I bet you could get them to vote for it too! Just dress it up as "for the children".

Tell them it would drastically reduce the number of abortions in Moore.

I dunno. Ford & Reagen nearly got capped.

Lincoln was one wasn't he?

Many development cycles ago, we did a major retooling of the Republican class. Changed most of the ideals and so forth. One of the major changes was adding poison resistance and Sneak Attack immunity to Republicans. So yeah, it'd be a no go.
Port Arcana
14-08-2008, 03:30
A sad day for Oklahoma and a sad day for America.

Oh well, I live in Missouri! :)

A state lawmaker from Moore wants to make being in a gang illegal.

And apparently he is a moron too. XD
Blouman Empire
14-08-2008, 04:27
Yes Smunkee it happens everywhere, something similar in my state is also going ahead, but it is only targeting people who are members of motorcycle gangs, not just the criminals mind you but all motorcycle gangs. And the party in power is more align with the Democrats than with the Republicans, which just goes to show that idiots are on all parts of the political spectrum.

Though I don't understand how this law is racist.
Kahanistan
14-08-2008, 06:26
Georgia? Welcome to the human race. Leave your individuality at the door.
"We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

*inserts nanoprobes*

Anyway... I think they tried that in Columbus, Ohio, a few years ago. I don't remember how that turned out, though, trying to make it a crime to be a member of a gang. Come to think of it, I don't think it's illegal to be a member of the Mafia, either, or even have Mafia connections... but being a made man should be prima facie evidence of having committed a murder.

As for this guy... yeah, typical Bushevik. Somebody needs to point him to Ron Paul, who's pretty much the only decent Republican around these days. By that, I mean he doesn't believe in these kinds of intrusions or backwards sexual attitudes. Of course, I tend to lean more to the left, so I wouldn't be voting Republican at all most likely.
Skalvia
14-08-2008, 06:32
Wot Wot!? No no no... We will NOT tolerate this Copyright Infringement on our State!!!...

Oklahoma PREPARE FOR MISSISSIPPI'S WRATH!!!!
Tmutarakhan
14-08-2008, 06:54
[I]Somebody needs to point him to Ron Paul, who's pretty much the only decent Republican around these days. By that, I mean he doesn't believe in these kinds of intrusions or backwards sexual attitudes.
You are mistaken: he does believe in such intrusions, but thinks the state governments rather than the federal should do the intrusions.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2008, 06:56
Wot Wot!? No no no... We will NOT tolerate this Copyright Infringement on our State!!!...

Oklahoma PREPARE FOR MISSISSIPPI'S WRATH!!!!

Until recently it was illegal to get a tattoo here, have oral sex, drink on a Sunday, or have more than 2 dildos. Actually it's still illegal to have more than two dildos and even if you only have one, you aren't supposed to use it, it's supposed to be a "gag gift". Also, it's illegal to sell, distribute, own, rent or watch penetrative sex on video *but not on the Internet which some of our lawmakers are trying to remedy at this very time. Also, recently passed is a law that women must have a ultrasound before having an abortion, the icky kind where they stick a probe up your hoo-ha. If a doctor doesn't do it, he's committed a felony.



Mississippi might be backwards, but Oklahoma owns the title of the most puritanical bullshit right wing state.

Ouch, my libertarian is coming out tonight.
Skalvia
14-08-2008, 06:58
Until recently it was illegal to get a tattoo here, have oral sex, drink on a Sunday, or have more than 2 dildos. Actually it's still illegal to have more than two dildos and even if you only have one, you aren't supposed to use it, it's supposed to be a "gag gift". Also, it's illegal to sell, distribute, own, rent or watch penetrative sex on video *but not on the Internet which some of our lawmakers are trying to remedy at this very time. Also, recently passed is a law that women must have a ultrasound before having an abortion, the icky kind where they stick a probe up your hoo-ha. If a doctor doesn't do it, he's committed a felony.



Mississippi might be backwards, but Oklahoma owns the title of the most puritanical bullshit right wing state.

Ouch, my libertarian is coming out tonight.

Im sure if you or i looked, we could find the same or worse here, (sex toys in general are illegal here, period, for example)...

I think its just states with a majority of NeoCons is the problem....Neo Cons are shit....
Smunkeeville
14-08-2008, 07:02
Im sure if you or i looked, we could find the same or worse here, (sex toys in general are illegal here, period, for example)...

I think its just states with a majority of NeoCons is the problem....Neo Cons are shit....

We're overrun with the "religious" I say it in quotation because I don't mean the actual religious who probably live by their moral code 99% of the time, I mean the Ted Haggards of the world.....the "religious" who get off on telling everyone else what to do, and then also get off on doing all the shit they said not to.
Skalvia
14-08-2008, 07:04
We're overrun with the "religious" I say it in quotation because I don't mean the actual religious who probably live by their moral code 99% of the time, I mean the Ted Haggards of the world.....the "religious" who get off on telling everyone else what to do, and then also get off on doing all the shit they said not to.

Organized Religion, Neo Cons...

Same thing really.....:p
Mirkana
14-08-2008, 10:08
I feel fortunate - in Washington, we keep all our rednecks on the other side of a mountain range.
Cabra West
14-08-2008, 11:26
I want to move, but I fear that this idoicy goes on all over the world. :(

Smunk, there's idiots everywhere, no matter where you go.
There was this think tank on the news yesterday that proclaimed that money put into cities in Northern England to re-start the economy there and to make the cities overall nicer places to live in was a complete waste, and that the people there should just move South if they wanted to have jobs and live somewhere nice.

It's just that in some places, idiots seem to be louder and therefore people listen to them more...
Sdaeriji
14-08-2008, 11:32
Im sure if you or i looked, we could find the same or worse here, (sex toys in general are illegal here, period, for example)...

I think its just states with a majority of NeoCons is the problem....Neo Cons are shit....

I wouldn't say that at all. Up here in Massachusetts, bastion of liberalism, until recently it was illegal to have anal sex, have oral sex, get a tattoo, or purchase alcohol on Sundays. Heck, we still can't legally buy fireworks in the state.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
14-08-2008, 12:01
These "gangs" need to spend some of their money to put their brighter recruits through college.

Then they should subsidize some legitimate charities or businesses for their Prospect to administer.

Then their champion has a track record. As an upstanding member of the business community.

Then they can run their champion against deadshits like Wesselhoft.

And beat him. "Gang pride" is reason enough.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
14-08-2008, 12:14
And, do doubt: Smunkee needs to move. The level of assholism she encounters in her everyday life is really not average for a Western democracy.

I mean, Kat said it. New York has less fucked-up, less asshole, and less plain stupid than what I'm hearing from Oklahoma. And New York has plenty.

Smunkee, you and Mr Smunkee should be looking for jobs in Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne. When either of you gets a firm offer ... COME ON DOWN!
BunnySaurus Bugsii
14-08-2008, 12:18
I wouldn't say that at all. Up here in Massachusetts, bastion of liberalism, until recently it was illegal to have anal sex, have oral sex, get a tattoo, or purchase alcohol on Sundays. Heck, we still can't legally buy fireworks in the state.

Fireworks: think like the children!

It's interesting that you say "until recently." Surely, this is progress?
Big Jim P
14-08-2008, 14:49
Hmm....outlawing membership in a criminal organization? My question: Who gets to arrest the government personnel?
Mirkana
14-08-2008, 18:11
No, no, no. Smunkee should be put in CHARGE of Oklahoma.

Smunkee for governor!
JuNii
14-08-2008, 18:19
I have ZERO control over this man, I'm not even remotely in his district, but I wrote him an email anyway. To which he replied



Okay, he worded it more clumsy and took 4 paragraphs and 10 typos to say it, but it was the general gist.

I want to move, but I fear that this idoicy goes on all over the world. :(

POST the letter. let's see his idiocy in all it's Glory!
Smunkeeville
14-08-2008, 18:30
No, no, no. Smunkee should be put in CHARGE of Oklahoma.

Smunkee for governor!

I'm thinking of a school board attempt.
Derscon
14-08-2008, 18:46
Hmm....outlawing membership in a criminal organization? My question: Who gets to arrest the government personnel?

XD I was thinking the same thing.
JuNii
14-08-2008, 19:35
I'm thinking of a school board attempt.

no go for Governor first, make the necessary changes then after your term, move down to the school board. ;)
Utracia
14-08-2008, 19:57
be easier to simply arrest them for other crimes and then, you know, KEEP them in prison instead of letting them out early


i want to read his response letter to you as well Smunk :)
Derscon
15-08-2008, 03:11
Or shoot them. Execution is a great method of cleaning.
The Scandinvans
15-08-2008, 03:17
I guess he never heard of the First Amendment, either, or the 14th.Well, I prevent my imported workers from knowing the amendments of the supreme law of the land as if they did they would figure out about the 13th amendment and would run away.:p