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The UnModerated Paradise Party

Neesika
13-08-2008, 06:13
The UnModerated Paradise Party

FUCK MANIFESTO

We are UnModerated.

Unmoderated in all things. Unmoderated in our speech, our interactions, our loves, our anger, our expectatations, our lives. We abhore censorship in all forms, but find self-censorship to be the most insidious and pernicious of all. We have managed to create a community based on very basic principles...we do not enforce respect, we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. Period. Come as you are, stand your ground, face the onslaught. You will find yourself to be as strong as your convictions, and just maybe, you will allow yourself to open up to the possibility of growth...though even that is not required.

We don’t care what personal issues you bring to the table. We don’t care what your background is. We don’t give a fuck if you like us or not. These are not matters that need worry us in any way. We have one goal, and that is to fuck with NSG.

Some of you might find that sinister, because you assume. We don’t bother. We prefer to pay attention, to let things play out, to avoid judgment until such time as we have more information. We don’t give a fuck about unity, we don’t give a fuck about solidarity. Instead, we fiercely protect the right of everyone to give as little fuck as we do about those things that seem to concern others so much. We could care less about hierarchies...we appreciate skills. We oppose authoritarianism and paternalistic hand-holding. We delight in the diversity of the human spirit. We revel in the visceral and the cerebral both.

This is our manifesto. We did not choose the title simply to titillate or offend. We chose it because ‘fuck’ is quite possibly the most sublime word in the English language.

1) Fuck moderation of speech.

Above all, we want people to throw off their self-imposed shackles, and express themselves freely, without fear of consequence. We want you to delve deep into yourselves and do something incredibly simple...say what you really fucking mean. No, this doesn’t mean you need to dredge up every horrible thing you can imagine just to get it out there...but if you really take issue with something, for the love of fuck, TAKE ISSUE WITH IT! Don’t tell yourself to be nice, or polite, or to debate things in a certain fashion because you believe that you should...reach deep down, pull out the essence of your objection and lay it out there for all to see. You will find poetry.

2) Fuck moderation of act.

How many of you actually live? As opposed to just killing time until something good happens? How many days do you wake up and smell the air that surrounds you, feel the blood surge through your veins, hiss through gloriously clenched teeth TODAY I AM GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT!!!

To be held back by so much fear is crippling. Fear of social censure. Fear of misunderstanding, adverse reactions...you are responsible for your own happiness. If what you do harms no one else, why? Why the fuck would you allow yourself to be held back? What could possibly bind you so firmly to misery, to accepting a shadow of a life? Whatever your spiritual beliefs, there is no virtue in waiting for a better moment to live.

This ‘virtual community’ is not immune to action. Dig even slightly and you will find amazing stories...loves found, friends made, lives literally changed...all with words. Simple, human, communication. Real, raw, and unmoderated. Clamping down on that, pretending it is somehow beneath you...and you once again close a door on wonderous possibility.

3) Fuck moderation of the forum

The mods are here to perform a simple function. Enforce the specific rules laid down by the creator of this forum. Nonetheless, their actions are nearly always triggered by you. Whether through posts in Moderation, or simply getting pissy and whiny about the treatment you feel you are undeservedly receiving, most moderation action taking place is in reaction to the complaints of posters themselves.

It goes beyond simply ‘aiding’ the moderators in their job...it has become a divine pissing match...a way of ‘winning the game’. Imaginary points for baiting someone under the radar...causing them to lose their cool. Extreme kudos for playing the game so fucking well that certain posters get deleted. The ultimate victory. And it becomes a sweet game...no doubt about it. Alluring in its simplicity.

So much so that we lose other skills. Skills like not giving a fuck. Someone called you a mean name? Why on earth would you give a fuck? Someone is wrong on the internet? Who gives a fuck? Someone made an assumption about you that, even after correction, seems to be sticking? Their fucking loss. You deal with it, you move on.




We are anarchistic in that we adhere to no particular political structure. Everyone has a space to speak their minds, put forth their ideas, and defend their positions. We do not elect, we do not designate...we bang out agreements just as rawly as lovers fucking their way to that instant of electrical communion where flesh melds into one, and the senses lock on the divine. Agreement isn’t as important as the process.

We are essentially non-ideological in that we will find space for all perspectives. Once again...we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. We come from diverse backgrounds and experiences, and we do not assume. That means we will not adhere to dogma for the sake of maintaining consistency. Consistency is censorship and it stifles.

We are egalitarian. While some might perceive a hierarchy, or a pecking order, it is purely imported. Neither I, or any other member of the UnModerated Paradise Party is any more important than the others. This does not mean we are equal. We express our needs, and accommodations are made or not according to the particular beliefs and perspectives of the individual members. Some of us excel in areas that others flounder in. This is unimportant. Each of us does as we can, when we can, how we can.

We are what you make us. There is a place for here if you only wish to take it. We make you no promises, except that we will not ask you to moderate yourself, and we will, to the best of our abilities, work to ensure that this forum becomes as unmoderated as possible.

And just maybe...we can revitalise this forum, and make it something truly exceptional.
Neesika
13-08-2008, 06:14
Alright bitches. Join up.

Bitches that be in:

Skalvian Insurgents
Il Ruffino
Ryadn
Hotwife
Mikesburg + newly birthed offspring
Gift-of-God
Sumamba Buwhan
New Drakonia
Smunkeeville (open relationship)
Jello Biafra
Vault 10
The Brevious/Straughn
Third Spanish States
Skalvia
13-08-2008, 06:15
Sounds like my kinda party, im in...
Sleepy Bugs
13-08-2008, 06:18
I'm waiting for you to abandon the traditional and conventional methods of expression. At least the band Magma had the guts to create an unintelligible language to sing their songs.

C'mon! Do it for anarchy! Bork! Bork! Bork!
Neesika
13-08-2008, 06:22
Fuck off, go ahead and translate it for us.
Skalvia
13-08-2008, 06:29
I AM NOT A BITCH YOU MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE GODDAMMIT!!!...

Lmfao:p
Neesika
13-08-2008, 06:31
You realise that you're going to have to take it as a term of endearment, yes?

Good.
Skalvia
13-08-2008, 06:35
You realise that you're going to have to take it as a term of endearment, yes?

Good.

Oooooh...Well, clearly my text doesnt sound right, lol...





Just so we're clear, i was joking, lol...
Neesika
13-08-2008, 06:37
Oooooh...Well, clearly my text doesnt sound right, lol...

Just so we're clear, i was joking, lol...

I'm aware.

Note the lack of my quoting your post.

I thought it best to put it out there in general.
Heikoku 2
13-08-2008, 06:47
It's a nice platform, but I want to found...

THE PROCRASTINATION PARTY!!!

I'll write the manifesto later!
IL Ruffino
13-08-2008, 06:54
Fuck yeah I'm in.
Albany and Surrounds
13-08-2008, 06:59
So i herd u liek mudkipz
DaWoad
13-08-2008, 07:01
*crawls away under a rock to hide from Kat's wrath*
New Malachite Square
13-08-2008, 07:12
1) Fuck moderation of speech.

Above all, we want people to throw off their self-imposed shackles, and express themselves freely, without fear of consequence.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds…

Sounds good so far…

2) Fuck moderation of act.

How many of you actually live? As opposed to just killing time until something good happens?

Whoops, that's it. I'm out. Well, it was fun.
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-08-2008, 07:23
Fuck yeah I'm in.

Traitor. My party will hunt you down and drag you kicking and screaming back to the party, where you will be punished by having to down copious amounts of liquor and gourmet cuisine.
Neesika
13-08-2008, 08:39
Barringtonia...I so wish I could have read what you posted pre-edit :D
Neesika
13-08-2008, 08:39
So i herd u liek mudkipz

*grabs and abuses violently*
Ryadn
13-08-2008, 10:30
Sure, I'll get in bed with the anarchist bad asses of NSG. Do it. Let's actually TALK about something.
SoWiBi
13-08-2008, 11:18
Oh for the Elk's sake, weren't you supposed to do this kind of stuff when you were, I don't know, a teenager? Or, at the latest, a college wannabe rebel badass?

I'll be over in that corner where we think, say, and do things in utter freedom without the need to showcase our profanity skills and loudly shove it in everyone's face how truly anarchist we are.

Real liberty is not when you've thrown off your shackles, but when you've also realized you may now quit rattling the broken remains wherever you go.

You might want to consider ducking under some rebel flag (or a bed sheet, if lacking proper regalia) and reading your post out loud on YouTube. It'd be an instant hit.
Lapse
13-08-2008, 12:05
Fuck yeah I'm in.

You should throw your support behind the SSA ruffy.. imagine what we can do for you..
Belschaft
13-08-2008, 13:04
Lapse is right -


Throw your suport behind the SSA!!!!

We allready have an offsite forum. Do any other party's have one? Not that I've spoted. And about 80 party members. How many do you lot have?
Hotwife
13-08-2008, 14:11
I am definitely in. OMAC should be in as well. Studies show that the more controversial and unmoderated the comments or forum is, the more hits a site receives. This helps when determining ad prices for a really hot forum.

The hotter, the better, I say.
Neo Bretonnia
13-08-2008, 15:22
I'd like to see this one, if for no other reason than the fact that everybody likes to see a good train wreck.
Intestinal fluids
13-08-2008, 15:56
Im far too rebellious to have read your entire manifesto.
Mikesburg
13-08-2008, 16:07
Fuck it. I'm in.
Giapo Alitheia
13-08-2008, 16:40
Ah, good. A group to act like assholes to other assholes based on the platform that everyone, in fact, should act like assholes.

Have fun.

(;))
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-08-2008, 16:58
Lapse is right -


Throw your suport behind the SSA!!!!

We allready have an offsite forum. Do any other party's have one? Not that I've spoted. And about 80 party members. How many do you lot have?

Yes, get behind SSA. And push. Push them right out of the running and join the NIFLPP.
Floreria
13-08-2008, 17:13
Oh for the Elk's sake, weren't you supposed to do this kind of stuff when you were, I don't know, a teenager? Or, at the latest, a college wannabe rebel badass?

I'll be over in that corner where we think, say, and do things in utter freedom without the need to showcase our profanity skills and loudly shove it in everyone's face how truly anarchist we are.

Real liberty is not when you've thrown off your shackles, but when you've also realized you may now quit rattling the broken remains wherever you go.

You might want to consider ducking under some rebel flag (or a bed sheet, if lacking proper regalia) and reading your post out loud on YouTube. It'd be an instant hit.

Oh, well I'm free enough to agree with you AND agree with their manifesto. It sounds to me like SoWiBi wants in too.

Either way, I'm not a forum user, but you may as well add me to this party.
Neesika
13-08-2008, 17:17
Oh for the Elk's sake, weren't you supposed to do this kind of stuff when you were, I don't know, a teenager? Or, at the latest, a college wannabe rebel badass?

I'll be over in that corner where we think, say, and do things in utter freedom without the need to showcase our profanity skills and loudly shove it in everyone's face how truly anarchist we are.

Real liberty is not when you've thrown off your shackles, but when you've also realized you may now quit rattling the broken remains wherever you go.

You might want to consider ducking under some rebel flag (or a bed sheet, if lacking proper regalia) and reading your post out loud on YouTube. It'd be an instant hit.
Oh you silly girl.

I can't believe you missed it.
Gift-of-god
13-08-2008, 17:23
*crawls away under a rock to hide from Kat's wrath*

*lifts rock, eats bugs on the underside, throws it at DaWoad's younger, innocent sibling or friend*

Ah, good. A group to act like assholes to other assholes based on the platform that everyone, in fact, should act like assholes.

Have fun.

(;))

You seem perfect for our cause, then.
Neesika
13-08-2008, 17:37
Ah, good. A group to act like assholes to other assholes based on the platform that everyone, in fact, should act like assholes.

Have fun.

(;))
You too seemed to have missed it.

Not too bright, some of you, hmmm? :D
Gravlen
13-08-2008, 17:40
Lapse is right -


Throw your suport behind the SSA!!!!

We allready have an offsite forum. Do any other party's have one? Not that I've spoted. And about 80 party members. How many do you lot have?

The real question should be: If you're feeling so superior, how come you don't even have a party to back? ;)
Smunkeeville
13-08-2008, 17:40
I'd like to see this one, if for no other reason than the fact that everybody likes to see a good train wreck.

Our trainwreck is hosted on another forum. :p
Giapo Alitheia
13-08-2008, 17:42
You seem perfect for our cause, then.

Ouch, that burns.
Giapo Alitheia
13-08-2008, 17:43
You too seemed to have missed it.

Not too bright, some of you, hmmm? :D

Damn it, I'm always late to the proverbial party...
Sumamba Buwhan
13-08-2008, 20:51
*falls down the rabbit hole*
Neo Bretonnia
13-08-2008, 21:19
Our trainwreck is hosted on another forum. :p

So where might I find it? :)
Katganistan
13-08-2008, 21:24
You might click on the links of various people's sigs.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-08-2008, 21:26
Check the post above yours... I preemptively gave a clue.
Gravlen
13-08-2008, 21:33
Check the post above yours... I preemptively gave a clue.

Pfft! It should read "Eat me", obv.

:tongue:
Fartsniffage
13-08-2008, 21:34
This party has promise.

*sends gunboat*

Huzzah, the damn colonials have been put in their place and the thread is ours.


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/animated_union_jack2.gif
VOTE NBIP
Because tea is more important than politics.
New Drakonia
13-08-2008, 21:35
I'll join you or whatever.
Neesika
14-08-2008, 18:27
Sign up bitches.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2008, 18:29
Sign up bitches.

I might start my own party. Besides would a true anarchist sign up for a party?
Neesika
14-08-2008, 18:32
I might start my own party. Besides would a true anarchist sign up for a party?

Hahahahahahaahah, smart ass, I never said we were true anarchists.

I see no reason why you can't be in multiple parties...we are in multiple forums, multiple roles. We don't demand your loyalty.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2008, 18:38
*signs up for open party*

*fucks other parties without consequence*
Heinleinites
14-08-2008, 19:50
It's very pretty on paper, but then again, lots of things look good on paper. How are you going to translate this into practical situations? Also, it's been my experience that lots of people like the idea of completely unfettered free speech, until it's pointed at them.
Jello Biafra
14-08-2008, 20:23
I'm in.

So i herd u liek mudkipzIck. *flogs*
Rayerth
14-08-2008, 21:16
Pfft! It should read "Eat me", obv.

:tongue:

Bite me.
Vault 10
14-08-2008, 21:29
Also, it's been my experience that lots of people like the idea of completely unfettered free speech, until it's pointed at them. Lots, but not all. I like it both ways. In fact, I hate when people have something to say about me, but don't say it in my face.


---

Either way, I'm applying to join, for an unmoderated, government-free, oppression-free universe.
Anti-Social Darwinism
14-08-2008, 21:54
Hmmmm. Maybe the NIFLPP should join forces with the UMPP. Or not.
Lapse
16-08-2008, 01:28
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/time_lapse/ssaparty2.gif (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563090)

Vote SSA for a sexier and funner NationStates, but still with the good bits.
Neesika
16-08-2008, 02:18
Shut the hell up...don't you have some kittens to molest?
Lapse
16-08-2008, 02:19
Sorry, we are too busy trying to stop you clubbing baby seals... Not that we would molest kittens... it is just... physically wrong... as in... too bleaaaach...
Neesika
16-08-2008, 02:20
S'what I thought.

*clubs you with a baby seal*
Callisdrun
16-08-2008, 02:23
Unmoderated paradise... sooo... basically... /b/.
Neesika
16-08-2008, 02:24
No. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Maraque
16-08-2008, 02:27
*posts*

Hmmm...
Lapse
16-08-2008, 02:33
S'what I thought.

*clubs you with a baby seal*

Now you are torturing a fellow human! Do the people of Nationstates really want a government that takes pride in clubbing people with baby seals?
If they are using all the baby seals for clubbing, how will we stop the babies from leaking?
Callisdrun
16-08-2008, 02:46
No. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please elaborate.
Neesika
16-08-2008, 02:57
It needs no elaboration. You have your answer.
Callisdrun
16-08-2008, 04:07
It needs no elaboration. You have your answer.

I think it does need elaboration. How would an unmoderated forum be different than /b/ with names?
Ryadn
16-08-2008, 04:53
I think it does need elaboration. How would an unmoderated forum be different than /b/ with names?

Higher mean IQ? Also, we're better looking. I assume.
Callisdrun
16-08-2008, 09:20
Higher mean IQ? Also, we're better looking. I assume.

This is the internet. I do not set myself up for disappointment with unrealistically high expectations of the people who populate it.

That goes for both IQ and physical attractiveness.


Call me a pessimist, or, as the case may be, even a fatalist, but I honestly don't think anything really separates NSG from /b/ besides the key facts that there are far fewer posters on NSG, they have names, and there are a lot more (enforced) rules.
Ryadn
16-08-2008, 10:44
This is the internet. I do not set myself up for disappointment with unrealistically high expectations of the people who populate it.

That goes for both IQ and physical attractiveness.


Call me a pessimist, or, as the case may be, even a fatalist, but I honestly don't think anything really separates NSG from /b/ besides the key facts that there are far fewer posters on NSG, they have names, and there are a lot more (enforced) rules.

Commie. What do you want, a photo ID and a fax of my SAT scores? Or my Narrative Evalu---actually, let's not talk about those.
Moleland 3
16-08-2008, 11:46
Yes, get behind SSA. And push. Push them right out of the running and join the NIFLPP.

Or perhaps not
Adunabar
16-08-2008, 14:54
I'm in.
Katganistan
16-08-2008, 15:49
Nice to meet you, In. I'm Kat (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13928285&postcount=1).
Lapse
16-08-2008, 16:08
By Kat she means A raging cannibal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13928701&postcount=15) with Blood on her hands (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13928701&postcount=15). (She admitted it herself- it counts even if there were *s around it...
Adunabar
16-08-2008, 16:10
Nice to meet you, In. I'm Kat (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13928285&postcount=1).

Get your foul politics away from this place.
Belschaft
16-08-2008, 16:10
http://z8.invisionfree.com/SSA05/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=4907951
SoWiBi
16-08-2008, 18:46
Oh you silly girl.
Likewise.

[Y]ou missed it.
You think?
Callisdrun
16-08-2008, 20:53
Commie. What do you want, a photo ID and a fax of my SAT scores? Or my Narrative Evalu---actually, let's not talk about those.

Oh yes please. Dox... I must haz them. >_>
Moleland 3
16-08-2008, 21:21
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6948/yodaar9.png
Ryadn
16-08-2008, 21:59
Oh yes please. Dox... I must haz them. >_>

Most of my narrative evals say things like "a fair performance from a student capable of better" or "insightful when she participates, but largely unmotivated" or some other fancy description for "smart slacker". :(

If I had a working scanner/digital camera I'd show you a pic of my old UCSC student ID. It's terrifically bad!
The Brevious
17-08-2008, 01:22
The UnModerated Paradise Party

FUCK MANIFESTO

We are UnModerated.

Unmoderated in all things. Unmoderated in our speech, our interactions, our loves, our anger, our expectatations, our lives. We abhore censorship in all forms, but find self-censorship to be the most insidious and pernicious of all. We have managed to create a community based on very basic principles...we do not enforce respect, we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. Period. Come as you are, stand your ground, face the onslaught. You will find yourself to be as strong as your convictions, and just maybe, you will allow yourself to open up to the possibility of growth...though even that is not required.

We don’t care what personal issues you bring to the table. We don’t care what your background is. We don’t give a fuck if you like us or not. These are not matters that need worry us in any way. We have one goal, and that is to fuck with NSG.

Some of you might find that sinister, because you assume. We don’t bother. We prefer to pay attention, to let things play out, to avoid judgment until such time as we have more information. We don’t give a fuck about unity, we don’t give a fuck about solidarity. Instead, we fiercely protect the right of everyone to give as little fuck as we do about those things that seem to concern others so much. We could care less about hierarchies...we appreciate skills. We oppose authoritarianism and paternalistic hand-holding. We delight in the diversity of the human spirit. We revel in the visceral and the cerebral both.

This is our manifesto. We did not choose the title simply to titillate or offend. We chose it because ‘fuck’ is quite possibly the most sublime word in the English language.

1) Fuck moderation of speech.

Above all, we want people to throw off their self-imposed shackles, and express themselves freely, without fear of consequence. We want you to delve deep into yourselves and do something incredibly simple...say what you really fucking mean. No, this doesn’t mean you need to dredge up every horrible thing you can imagine just to get it out there...but if you really take issue with something, for the love of fuck, TAKE ISSUE WITH IT! Don’t tell yourself to be nice, or polite, or to debate things in a certain fashion because you believe that you should...reach deep down, pull out the essence of your objection and lay it out there for all to see. You will find poetry.

2) Fuck moderation of act.

How many of you actually live? As opposed to just killing time until something good happens? How many days do you wake up and smell the air that surrounds you, feel the blood surge through your veins, hiss through gloriously clenched teeth TODAY I AM GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT!!!

To be held back by so much fear is crippling. Fear of social censure. Fear of misunderstanding, adverse reactions...you are responsible for your own happiness. If what you do harms no one else, why? Why the fuck would you allow yourself to be held back? What could possibly bind you so firmly to misery, to accepting a shadow of a life? Whatever your spiritual beliefs, there is no virtue in waiting for a better moment to live.

This ‘virtual community’ is not immune to action. Dig even slightly and you will find amazing stories...loves found, friends made, lives literally changed...all with words. Simple, human, communication. Real, raw, and unmoderated. Clamping down on that, pretending it is somehow beneath you...and you once again close a door on wonderous possibility.

3) Fuck moderation of the forum

The mods are here to perform a simple function. Enforce the specific rules laid down by the creator of this forum. Nonetheless, their actions are nearly always triggered by you. Whether through posts in Moderation, or simply getting pissy and whiny about the treatment you feel you are undeservedly receiving, most moderation action taking place is in reaction to the complaints of posters themselves.

It goes beyond simply ‘aiding’ the moderators in their job...it has become a divine pissing match...a way of ‘winning the game’. Imaginary points for baiting someone under the radar...causing them to lose their cool. Extreme kudos for playing the game so fucking well that certain posters get deleted. The ultimate victory. And it becomes a sweet game...no doubt about it. Alluring in its simplicity.

So much so that we lose other skills. Skills like not giving a fuck. Someone called you a mean name? Why on earth would you give a fuck? Someone is wrong on the internet? Who gives a fuck? Someone made an assumption about you that, even after correction, seems to be sticking? Their fucking loss. You deal with it, you move on.




We are anarchistic in that we adhere to no particular political structure. Everyone has a space to speak their minds, put forth their ideas, and defend their positions. We do not elect, we do not designate...we bang out agreements just as rawly as lovers fucking their way to that instant of electrical communion where flesh melds into one, and the senses lock on the divine. Agreement isn’t as important as the process.

We are essentially non-ideological in that we will find space for all perspectives. Once again...we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. We come from diverse backgrounds and experiences, and we do not assume. That means we will not adhere to dogma for the sake of maintaining consistency. Consistency is censorship and it stifles.

We are egalitarian. While some might perceive a hierarchy, or a pecking order, it is purely imported. Neither I, or any other member of the UnModerated Paradise Party is any more important than the others. This does not mean we are equal. We express our needs, and accommodations are made or not according to the particular beliefs and perspectives of the individual members. Some of us excel in areas that others flounder in. This is unimportant. Each of us does as we can, when we can, how we can.

We are what you make us. There is a place for here if you only wish to take it. We make you no promises, except that we will not ask you to moderate yourself, and we will, to the best of our abilities, work to ensure that this forum becomes as unmoderated as possible.

And just maybe...we can revitalise this forum, and make it something truly exceptional.

I really, REALLY like your platform. I think i got inducted to the pirates a while back, but as is typical, i didn't keep up on the plunderin' dues.
Callisdrun
17-08-2008, 03:57
Most of my narrative evals say things like "a fair performance from a student capable of better" or "insightful when she participates, but largely unmotivated" or some other fancy description for "smart slacker". :(

If I had a working scanner/digital camera I'd show you a pic of my old UCSC student ID. It's terrifically bad!

Lol. I have often gotten the same types of evals.
Lapse
17-08-2008, 04:20
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/time_lapse/umpsmear1.jpg
Moleland 3
17-08-2008, 04:23
Tut tut. Poor misguided Unmoderate paradise members. Now do you see the errors of your ways? :(
CanuckHeaven
19-08-2008, 03:39
The UnModerated Paradise Party

FUCK MANIFESTO

We are UnModerated.

Unmoderated in all things. Unmoderated in our speech, our interactions, our loves, our anger, our expectatations, our lives. We abhore censorship in all forms, but find self-censorship to be the most insidious and pernicious of all. We have managed to create a community based on very basic principles...we do not enforce respect, we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. Period. Come as you are, stand your ground, face the onslaught. You will find yourself to be as strong as your convictions, and just maybe, you will allow yourself to open up to the possibility of growth...though even that is not required.

We don’t care what personal issues you bring to the table. We don’t care what your background is. We don’t give a fuck if you like us or not. These are not matters that need worry us in any way. We have one goal, and that is to fuck with NSG.
Some of you might find that sinister, because you assume. We don’t bother. We prefer to pay attention, to let things play out, to avoid judgment until such time as we have more information. We don’t give a fuck about unity, we don’t give a fuck about solidarity. Instead, we fiercely protect the right of everyone to give as little fuck as we do about those things that seem to concern others so much. We could care less about hierarchies...we appreciate skills. We oppose authoritarianism and paternalistic hand-holding. We delight in the diversity of the human spirit. We revel in the visceral and the cerebral both.

This is our manifesto. We did not choose the title simply to titillate or offend. We chose it because ‘fuck’ is quite possibly the most sublime word in the English language.

1) Fuck moderation of speech.

Above all, we want people to throw off their self-imposed shackles, and express themselves freely, without fear of consequence. We want you to delve deep into yourselves and do something incredibly simple...say what you really fucking mean. No, this doesn’t mean you need to dredge up every horrible thing you can imagine just to get it out there...but if you really take issue with something, for the love of fuck, TAKE ISSUE WITH IT! Don’t tell yourself to be nice, or polite, or to debate things in a certain fashion because you believe that you should...reach deep down, pull out the essence of your objection and lay it out there for all to see. You will find poetry.

2) Fuck moderation of act.

How many of you actually live? As opposed to just killing time until something good happens? How many days do you wake up and smell the air that surrounds you, feel the blood surge through your veins, hiss through gloriously clenched teeth TODAY I AM GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT!!!

To be held back by so much fear is crippling. Fear of social censure. Fear of misunderstanding, adverse reactions...you are responsible for your own happiness. If what you do harms no one else, why? Why the fuck would you allow yourself to be held back? What could possibly bind you so firmly to misery, to accepting a shadow of a life? Whatever your spiritual beliefs, there is no virtue in waiting for a better moment to live.

This ‘virtual community’ is not immune to action. Dig even slightly and you will find amazing stories...loves found, friends made, lives literally changed...all with words. Simple, human, communication. Real, raw, and unmoderated. Clamping down on that, pretending it is somehow beneath you...and you once again close a door on wonderous possibility.

3) Fuck moderation of the forum

The mods are here to perform a simple function. Enforce the specific rules laid down by the creator of this forum. Nonetheless, their actions are nearly always triggered by you. Whether through posts in Moderation, or simply getting pissy and whiny about the treatment you feel you are undeservedly receiving, most moderation action taking place is in reaction to the complaints of posters themselves.

It goes beyond simply ‘aiding’ the moderators in their job...it has become a divine pissing match...a way of ‘winning the game’. Imaginary points for baiting someone under the radar...causing them to lose their cool. Extreme kudos for playing the game so fucking well that certain posters get deleted. The ultimate victory. And it becomes a sweet game...no doubt about it. Alluring in its simplicity.

So much so that we lose other skills. Skills like not giving a fuck. Someone called you a mean name? Why on earth would you give a fuck? Someone is wrong on the internet? Who gives a fuck? Someone made an assumption about you that, even after correction, seems to be sticking? Their fucking loss. You deal with it, you move on.




We are anarchistic in that we adhere to no particular political structure. Everyone has a space to speak their minds, put forth their ideas, and defend their positions. We do not elect, we do not designate...we bang out agreements just as rawly as lovers fucking their way to that instant of electrical communion where flesh melds into one, and the senses lock on the divine. Agreement isn’t as important as the process.

We are essentially non-ideological in that we will find space for all perspectives. Once again...we do not enforce tolerance. We do not enforce. We come from diverse backgrounds and experiences, and we do not assume. That means we will not adhere to dogma for the sake of maintaining consistency. Consistency is censorship and it stifles.

We are egalitarian. While some might perceive a hierarchy, or a pecking order, it is purely imported. Neither I, or any other member of the UnModerated Paradise Party is any more important than the others. This does not mean we are equal. We express our needs, and accommodations are made or not according to the particular beliefs and perspectives of the individual members. Some of us excel in areas that others flounder in. This is unimportant. Each of us does as we can, when we can, how we can.

We are what you make us. There is a place for here if you only wish to take it. We make you no promises, except that we will not ask you to moderate yourself, and we will, to the best of our abilities, work to ensure that this forum becomes as unmoderated as possible.

And just maybe...we can revitalise this forum, and make it something truly exceptional.
You have your own forum.....why would you want to change this one?

So much for liberty?

Edit: BTW, your manifesto is a crock of shit, and you know it. :tongue:
Neesika
19-08-2008, 06:49
You have your own forum.....why would you want to change this one?
This forum won't change, regardless.

So much for liberty? Yeah whatever. Can't hear you with your face buried in my crotch.


Edit: BTW, your manifesto is a crock of shit, and you know it. :tongue:No more than the massive load you carry around. On your shoulders and such.
CanuckHeaven
19-08-2008, 14:46
This forum won't change, regardless.
You keep coming back....I guess that suggests that you get bored in your unmoderated paradise?

Yeah whatever. Can't hear you with your face buried in my crotch.
Wishful thinking on your part?

No more than the massive load you carry around. On your shoulders and such.
Is that the best you can come up with on short notice?
Gift-of-god
19-08-2008, 17:04
The fact that Canuck Heaven doesn't like us should be useful to get a few more people on our platform. Someone go see if we can get Corny to be annoyed at us too. I feel like I'm only eating half of a mille-feuille.
Sumamba Buwhan
19-08-2008, 17:24
agent of chaos reporting in

mission accepted

target located
Neesika
19-08-2008, 18:17
You keep coming back....I guess that suggests that you get bored in your unmoderated paradise? Or that I'm not as single-minded as thou art. I even haunt GM from time to time. Other than when I mod-suicided as Sinuhue I've never stated an intention to leave NSG...no matter how much that would tickle your balls.


Wishful thinking on your part? We all know you've had a hard on for me for ages...I figure since you have nothing interesting to say you might as well be of some limited use.




Is that the best you can come up with on short notice?

You actually think you merit better?

Talk about inflated sense of self-worth.
RhynoD
19-08-2008, 20:39
The real question should be: If you're feeling so superior, how come you don't even have a party to back? ;)

We have a party. The SSA. We have a nifty forum and everything. And niftier propaganda pictures.

The point of the SSA is not to be unmoderated, but rather, to not require moderation. If no one does anything to piss someone else off, then no moderation is required. If someone does piss you off, but you talk it out with them and solve it all reasonably, no moderation is required.

We are a group of friends, and we treat each other with respect. And also we're all very silly and we never take anything we say seriously anyways.
Gravlen
19-08-2008, 20:59
We have a party
Established three days after my post, which you respond to a week after it was made. Mind you, there's no rush.

And niftier propaganda pictures.
More picSpam you mean.
RhynoD
19-08-2008, 21:06
Established three days after my post, which you respond to a week after it was made. Mind you, there's no rush.

The SSA has existed since before NS moved to Jolt. That we only now choose to advertise ourselves as a party is our own business.

Besides, my join date is earlier than yours, so obviously I'm right.

More picSpam you mean.

Social Spam Alliance. It's twice the propaganda per pic.
Gravlen
19-08-2008, 21:32
The SSA has existed since before NS moved to Jolt. That we only now choose to advertise ourselves as a party is our own business.
Doesn't matter. There was no SSA party at the time of my post, so I stand by my mockery.

Besides, my join date is earlier than yours, so obviously I'm right.
Pfft! Everybody knows that it's the postcount that means something :wink:


Social Spam Alliance. It's twice the propaganda per pic.
Only the good pics ;)
RhynoD
19-08-2008, 21:39
Doesn't matter. There was no SSA party at the time of my post, so I stand by my mockery.

It existed. We just didn't advertise.

Pfft! Everybody knows that it's the postcount that means something :wink:

My postcount on the SSA is pretty fucking huge.

Only the good pics ;)

They're all good.



Because they're all advertising for the SSA.





And the SSA is good.
Belschaft
19-08-2008, 21:40
Doesn't matter. There was no SSA party at the time of my post, so I stand by my mockery.

Actually we had already started it offsite. We plan first, then post.

Pfft! Everybody knows that it's the postcount that means something :wink:

Your face. Don't insult lapse, he be the big bad boss.

Only the good pics ;)

There all god pics. Especially mine.
Smunkeeville
19-08-2008, 21:40
The SSA has existed since before NS moved to Jolt.
If you guys are truly spammers why does your forum have so few posts?
Belschaft
19-08-2008, 21:41
Because there not that many of us.
RhynoD
19-08-2008, 21:45
If you guys are truly spammers why does your forum have so few posts?

What Bel said. And also because the current forum is the 5th one, due to various problems. The combined postcount from all 5 incarnations is actually rather significant, I would imagine.

Also because there's a difference between spamming and flooding. Flooding is only fun if you want to crash servers. Which is amusing, but not always a good idea. And the SSA is the thinking spammer's party.
CanuckHeaven
19-08-2008, 21:54
The fact that Canuck Heaven doesn't like us should be useful to get a few more people on our platform.
An interesting comment to say the least, since I cannot recall expressing a dislike towards you.....ever.
Smunkeeville
19-08-2008, 22:05
What Bel said. And also because the current forum is the 5th one, due to various problems. The combined postcount from all 5 incarnations is actually rather significant, I would imagine.

Also because there's a difference between spamming and flooding. Flooding is only fun if you want to crash servers. Which is amusing, but not always a good idea. And the SSA is the thinking spammer's party.

But you've been on that forum since at least 2005 and you only have 112K
We've only been at the new forum on GM since January and we have 105K

We don't "flood", we talk.

I doubt ya'll are spammers, thinking or otherwise.
Third Spanish States
19-08-2008, 22:05
Although I fear what shall be the future when people are free to put more shock and NSFW pictures in their posts than the average of an ED article, the cons of total freedom outweigh the cons of total tyranny. And after all, users can always disable images or put into their IGNORE LISTS all those who excessively abuse from freedom of speech.

Therefore, count me in. I also propose an amendment to the greater goals of Freedom to secure the Second Amendment even in the Internets because no matter how a server is privately owned, it still remains as a de facto public place.

We must have a forum service with an embedded free anonymous proxy server for all Party Members
Gravlen
19-08-2008, 22:05
It existed. We just didn't advertise.
"It existed. It's just that nobody knew!"

Sure, baby! :p


My postcount on the SSA is pretty fucking huge.
Liek, over 9000?

When we debate on SSA, you get to be right. :tongue:


They're all good.
I wish.

Actually we had already started it offsite. We plan first, then post.
And off site, my party won the election! Woo! And there was much rejoicing though it counted for naught.


Your face.
*Blue Steel*

Don't insult lapse, he be the big bad boss.
He ain't my boss, Boss. And he's a total laps, if you know what I mean ;)


There all god pics. Especially mine.
Well, you aren't right...
RhynoD
19-08-2008, 22:23
But you've been on that forum since at least 2005 and you only have 112K
We've only been at the new forum on GM since January and we have 105K

We don't "flood", we talk.

I doubt ya'll are spammers, thinking or otherwise.

Four active members or so for several years kind of takes a toll on your postcount.
Moleland 3
20-08-2008, 00:14
Four active members or so for several years kind of takes a toll on your postcount.

And considering some of us can disappear for months...

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4833/deathgq1.png
Gift-of-god
20-08-2008, 00:15
An interesting comment to say the least, since I cannot recall expressing a dislike towards you.....ever.

Do my posts often confuse you?
Lapse
20-08-2008, 01:43
But you've been on that forum since at least 2005 and you only have 112K
We've only been at the new forum on GM since January and we have 105K

Yeah, we sort of... well.. have lives... sometimes


The SSA might not have a huge rate of posts/day, but considering we generally rely of word of mouth for advertising, and nobody can be bothered doing that anyway...

Plus, you know... we have more culture...
Neesika
20-08-2008, 01:54
An interesting comment to say the least, since I cannot recall expressing a dislike towards you.....ever.

So you have to dislike someone first before they can dislike you?

I mean, that's the way it worked with you and I, sure...because you aren't really any good at debating, just whining and calling people mean and evil.

But...considering your...calibre...it reflects well on us that you consider us in such a poor light.
CanuckHeaven
20-08-2008, 02:59
So you have to dislike someone first before they can dislike you?

I mean, that's the way it worked with you and I, sure...because you aren't really any good at debating, just whining and calling people mean and evil.

But...considering your...calibre...it reflects well on us that you consider us in such a poor light.
Methinks that you would cherish tolerance, but that you know not where to find it.

You claim abhorrence of moderation but for you, it is a revolving door (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=1058002). You love moderation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=1058009).

Perhaps counsel with your Elders can repair that tear in your soul? :rolleyes:
Neesika
20-08-2008, 03:13
I love how you know no other tune than the tired one you've sung since day one.

Moderation is a fact of life on these forums, and it's all part of the NSG game. I play it, just like you do with your 'oh look at me, I'm never in moderation...I'm just here calling people on their evilness cuz I'm just so goooood!'

I don't know why you just don't admit how often you fantasise about me doing unspeakable things to you with the lights off.

I could perhaps ask the Elders to council you on your unhealthy obsession with me though, Canuky.
Third Spanish States
20-08-2008, 03:39
My policy whenever someone trolls me is to either ignore it or if it goes too far add them to my ignore_list. If "List of people that everyone should ignore" were collectively made into stickies, the primary purpose of moderation would wane, and all it would be necessary would be deleting posts nobody cares about as trolls ignored by everyone leave out of boredom.

Power to the people!

And believe me, some wear the fact they were permabanned as a Virtual Medal.
Moleland 3
20-08-2008, 10:58
Yeah, we sort of... well.. have lives... sometimes


The SSA might not have a huge rate of posts/day, but considering we generally rely of word of mouth for advertising, and nobody can be bothered doing that anyway...

Plus, you know... we have more culture...

From all those lego temples we build? ;)
Smunkeeville
20-08-2008, 13:32
Yeah, we sort of... well.. have lives... sometimes


The SSA might not have a huge rate of posts/day, but considering we generally rely of word of mouth for advertising, and nobody can be bothered doing that anyway...

Plus, you know... we have more culture...

Your forum was pretty boring the time I went.... but it's been a while.
Belschaft
20-08-2008, 13:35
I don't know when you went on it but now we've got a small number of dedicated nutjobs with nothing better to do so theres always something new on it.
Lapse
20-08-2008, 13:53
It's good cause it's a part time forum.. you can go on there for 5 minutes a day or 5 hours a day and still get the SSA action!
Moleland 3
20-08-2008, 14:39
Precisely. Plus nobody will tell you to go away. We welcomed death into our fold :D
Belschaft
20-08-2008, 18:10
Didn't we tell that Kyle guy too go away.....
Moleland 3
20-08-2008, 18:50
Nope, not to my knowledge. We were still whacking him in his 'Whack the n00b' thread...
Skalvian Insurgents
20-08-2008, 18:50
I guess go ahead and re-add me...

One lolcat and everyone thinks you have WMD's and shit and your whole damn country gets fucked over, lol...

But, im predicting a victory for our Guerrilla Fighters come Nationstates 2 cause ive already reserved the name, lol...
Milks Empire
23-12-2009, 19:22
I AM NOT A BITCH YOU MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE GODDAMMIT!!!...

Lmfao:p

Like hell you aren't!
[/SARCASM]
:fluffle:
Adunabar
23-12-2009, 23:51
Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig!
Milks Empire
24-12-2009, 05:11
Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig!

And this is a problem because? :p
UnModerated Paradise, remember?
Adunabar
24-12-2009, 17:36
And this is a problem because? :p
UnModerated Paradise, remember?

This place is hardly a paradise, is it?
Khadgar
24-12-2009, 18:28
This place is hardly a paradise, is it?

I don't think paradise has this horrible failure stench. I blame that on Jolt.
Adunabar
25-12-2009, 00:26
I don't think paradise has this horrible failure stench. I blame that on Jolt.

I blame Melkor. That's what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, isn't it?
Khadgar
25-12-2009, 14:28
I blame Melkor. That's what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, isn't it?

Apparently.

Though this place is starting to draw back some "quality" posters who are for some baffling reason not on my ignore list, so that might be a cause too.
Dumb Ideologies
26-12-2009, 23:16
I blame Melkor. That's what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, isn't it?

I propose a surgical strike on the modcave.

We sneak in while they're sleeping, cut Melkor open and take his heart. It will be tricky to find, since the hearts of most right libertarians atrophy due to their complete ambivalence to the rest of humanity.

Since libertarians so rarely use the heart, it's possible he may be able to survive without it. So while we're in there, also remove his stomach. This will have the delicious irony of causing him to die of starvation, just as millions of poor people would if his so-called political 'principles' were implemented.

Don't want to make this all work, mind, so I propose that while he's still alive we all get to give him a free kick to the face each.

NOTE: The above is entirely serious, and should not be taken in any way as satire on Melkor's idea that offsite boards are conspiring against him. If he's not in the modcave, we may find him at his other address, the giant new building round the corner, name of "the Persecution Complex".
Gravlen
27-12-2009, 16:17
We should take his car apart, and reassemble it in the mod cave. That'll teach him!
Hairless Kitten
28-12-2009, 05:06
We should take his car apart, and reassemble it in the mod cave. That'll teach him!

No, no, no...

We should take Melkor apart, and reassemble it in the mod cave. That'll teach him!

And if we were really mean, we could switch his head with his penis et vice versa.
Neesika
28-12-2009, 23:25
Why are you gravedigging MY PRECIOUS FLUIDS!? Erm, I mean thread. Precious thread.
Gravlen
29-12-2009, 03:05
Why are you gravedigging MY PRECIOUS FLUIDS!? Erm, I mean thread. Precious thread.

Because it's HOT! Erm, I mean cool. Cool.
Neesika
29-12-2009, 03:08
Because it's HOT! Erm, I mean cool. Cool.

Well, I suppose I can always produce more fluids.
Getbrett
29-12-2009, 03:29
Fluids. Beer. Yes.
Neesika
29-12-2009, 03:31
Fluids. Beer. Yes.

Gin is better in the winter, wot.
Getbrett
29-12-2009, 03:33
I have no spirits at my parents house, unfortunately. Although I am quite drunk on wine.
Neesika
29-12-2009, 03:41
Exorcism in reverse?
Adunabar
29-12-2009, 16:07
Gin is better poured down the drain, wot.

Fixed for truth.
New Mitanni
04-01-2010, 01:40
No, no, no...

We should take Melkor apart, and reassemble it in the mod cave. That'll teach him!

And if we were really mean, we could switch his head with his penis et vice versa.

Melkor is the best NS mod. Deal with it. :p
The Parkus Empire
05-01-2010, 02:48
Actually, NM, I'm trying to campaign for you.
New Mitanni
05-01-2010, 06:01
Actually, NM, I'm trying to campaign for you.

Me, a Mod?! :eek:

Thanks for the affirmation, but even I know I don't have the temperament to be a Mod. To say nothing of a posting history that is appropriate for the job.
Dumb Ideologies
06-01-2010, 16:50
Melkor is the best NS mod. Deal with it. :p

The best at being needlessly rude, putting people's backs up, and climbing up upon his cross and claiming conspiracy whenever people get annoyed at him. "I acted like a dick? And now people don't like me? My, there must be shenanigans here".

Like children and referees, a good mod performs their job with a quiet, efficient ease which makes you almost forget that they are there. Again, as with children and referees, when they themselves become the focus through their rudeness, mistakes, or noise, they should suffer a scale of punishments from light whipping, branding, the sawing off of limbs, up to death by firing squad.

It may seem harsh, but it's the only way they'll learn, and ultimately it's for their own good.
Saint Clair Island
07-01-2010, 20:24
Like children and referees, a good mod performs their job with a quiet, efficient ease which makes you almost forget that they are there.

Actually, sometimes children perform their jobs noisily and with a great deal of fuss to attract attention to themselves. Doesn't make much difference in the end, considering that their job is to be brutally slaughtered in satanic rituals and then have their flesh devoured by me.

Also, I've never seen Melkor Unchained do anything like that. He always struck me as a decent if somewhat -- strike that, very -- inactive mod, despite being an Objectivist and sometimes managing to display a great deal of social awkwardness. (He complains about how he never gets laid. That's probably why.)
Skallvia
09-01-2010, 02:34
Sounds like my kinda party, im in...

Wow, that feels like forever ago, and somewhere around this thread I joined after that was banned, before I even knew UMP was actually another forum, :)
Skallvia
09-01-2010, 02:36
Actually, sometimes children perform their jobs noisily and with a great deal of fuss to attract attention to themselves. Doesn't make much difference in the end, considering that their job is to be brutally slaughtered in satanic rituals and then have their flesh devoured by me.

Also, I've never seen Melkor Unchained do anything like that. He always struck me as a decent if somewhat -- strike that, very -- inactive mod, despite being an Objectivist and sometimes managing to display a great deal of social awkwardness. (He complains about how he never gets laid. That's probably why.)

Its more of a recent, post-jolt development...