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Pollution controls are going to destroy the world

Bellania
12-08-2008, 17:22
Global Dimming is...dimming (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/aerosol_dimming.html)

Global 'Sunscreen' Has Likely Thinned, Report NASA Scientists
03.15.07

A new NASA study has found that an important counter-balance to the warming of our planet by greenhouse gases – sunlight blocked by dust, pollution and other aerosol particles – appears to have lost ground.

Highest aerosol levels in light blue, lowest in purple.


Image above: The average amount of dust, pollution and other aerosol particles in the atmosphere has dropped since the 1990s. Global averages were relatively low in the period 2002 to 2005, shown here (highest aerosol levels in light blue, lowest in purple). Credit: NASA Global Aerosol Climatology Project

The thinning of Earth’s “sunscreen” of aerosols since the early 1990s could have given an extra push to the rise in global surface temperatures. The finding, published in the March 16 issue of Science, may lead to an improved understanding of recent climate change. In a related study published last week, scientists found that the opposing forces of global warming and the cooling from aerosol-induced "global dimming" can occur at the same time.

"When more sunlight can get through the atmosphere and warm Earth's surface, you're going to have an effect on climate and temperature," said lead author Michael Mishchenko of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), New York. "Knowing what aerosols are doing globally gives us an important missing piece of the big picture of the forces at work on climate."

The study uses the longest uninterrupted satellite record of aerosols in the lower atmosphere, a unique set of global estimates funded by NASA. Scientists at GISS created the Global Aerosol Climatology Project by extracting a clear aerosol signal from satellite measurements originally designed to observe clouds and weather systems that date back to 1978. The resulting data show large, short-lived spikes in global aerosols caused by major volcanic eruptions in 1982 and 1991, but a gradual decline since about 1990. By 2005, global aerosols had dropped as much as 20 percent from the relatively stable level between 1986 and 1991.

Sun


Image above: Sun-blocking aerosols around the world steadily declined (red line) since the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo, according to satellite estimates. The decline appears to have brought an end to the "global dimming" earlier in the century. Credit: Michael Mishchenko, NASA

The NASA study also sheds light on the puzzling observations by other scientists that the amount of sunlight reaching Earth's surface, which had been steadily declining in recent decades, suddenly started to rebound around 1990. This switch from a "global dimming" trend to a "brightening" trend happened just as global aerosol levels started to decline, Mishchenko said.

While the Science paper does not prove that aerosols are behind the recent dimming and brightening trends -- changes in cloud cover have not been ruled out -- another new research result supports that conclusion In a paper published March 8 in the American Geophysical Union's Geophysical Research Letters, a research team led by Anastasia Romanou of Columbia University's Department of Applied Physics and Mathematics, New York, also showed that the apparently opposing forces of global warming and global dimming can occur at the same time.

The GISS research team conducted the most comprehensive experiment to date using computer simulations of Earth's 20th-century climate to investigate the dimming trend. The combined results from nine state-of-the-art climate models, including three from GISS, showed that due to increasing greenhouse gases and aerosols, the planet warmed at the same time that direct solar radiation reaching the surface decreased. The dimming in the simulations closely matched actual measurements of sunlight declines recorded from the 1960s to 1990.

Sunlight reaching the surface decreased over most of the globe in blue, and in some regions remained unchanged as in white, or slightly increased shown in yellow.


Image above: Computer simulations of Earth's climate over the entire 20th century show the effect of airborne particles called aerosols: sunlight reaching the surface decreased over most of the globe (blue) and in some regions remained unchanged (white) or slightly increased (yellow). Credit: Anastasia Romanou, Columbia University

Further simulations using one of the Goddard climate models revealed that aerosols blocking sunlight or trapping some of the sun's heat high in the atmosphere were the major driver in 20th-century global dimming. "Much of the dimming trend over the Northern Hemisphere stems from these direct aerosol effects," Romanou said. "Aerosols have other effects that contribute to dimming, such as making clouds more reflective and longer-lasting. These effects were found to be almost as important as the direct effects."

The combined effect of global dimming and warming may account for why one of the major impacts of a warmer climate -- the spinning up of the water cycle of evaporation, more cloud formation and more rainfall -- has not yet been observed. "Less sunlight reaching the surface counteracts the effect of warmer air temperatures, so evaporation does not change very much," said Gavin Schmidt of GISS, a co-author of the paper. "Increased aerosols probably slowed the expected change in the hydrological cycle."

Whether the recent decline in global aerosols will continue is an open question. A major complicating factor is that aerosols are not uniformly distributed across the world and come from many different sources, some natural and some produced by humans. While global estimates of total aerosols are improving and being extended with new observations by NASA's latest generation of Earth-observing satellites, finding out whether the recent rise and fall of aerosols is due to human activity or natural changes will have to await the planned launch of NASA's Glory Mission in 2008.

“One of Glory's two instruments, the Aerosol Polarimetry Sensor, will have the unique ability to measure globally the properties of natural and human-made aerosols to unprecedented levels of accuracy," said Mishchenko, who is project scientist on the mission.

As it turns out, this global dimming process caused, in part, by heavy industry pollution may be responsible for mitigating the effects of global warming. Now, with a sharp downtick in pollution (overall, China's emergence notwithstanding), we're seeing temperatures start to rise, enough that scientists are starting to really ring the warning bells.

Is global warming going to explode when China starts cleaning up its act, really knocking down this global dimming phenomenon? Is the only solution to start polluting again? Or is it all just a big conspiracy by those damn geeks trying to get government funding so they can play with weather balloons?
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 17:25
Why not just put a hat on the world to keep the sun off?
Khadgar
12-08-2008, 17:28
Global Dimming, aka nuclear winter for the indecisives.
Free Soviets
12-08-2008, 17:29
but guys, nothing we do could ever have any significant impact on stuff. republicans told me so themselves.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 17:31
Once Again, Coal is the Answer. :)
Hotwife
12-08-2008, 17:37
The best aerosols at blocking the sun (from industrial sources) are sulfate aerosols. They have a noticeable impact on cooling the US Northeast.

Are you saying you would rather have acid rain?
Bellania
12-08-2008, 17:42
Once Again, Coal is the Answer. :)

W00t! PA is relevant again economically!

"Mommy, when I grow up, I wanna work in a coal mine!"
Bellania
12-08-2008, 17:44
Global Dimming, aka nuclear winter for the indecisives.

I've been saying for years that nuking the Middle East would be good for the world, now I have environmental proof.

*presses big red button*
South Lorenya
12-08-2008, 17:46
http://www.idrewthis.org/comics/idt20050218science.gif
Hotwife
12-08-2008, 17:47
I've been saying for years that nuking the Middle East would be good for the world, now I have environmental proof.

*presses big red button*

That's my job!
Nobel Hobos
12-08-2008, 17:55
Someday, we may have the excess capacity to produce harmless aerosols to "dim" the planet and ameliorate the greenhouse effect. Putting them in the stratosphere where they will stay put for longer and have more cooling effect.

But saying that burning coal is GOOD because of the air pollution is like trying to outrun the flames when your hotrod is on fire. At some point, we just can't burn any more coal -- either we're choking on the smoke, the coal runs out, or some other factor we hadn't forseen comes into play.

Simply reducing our impact overall is the best solution for now. Stay close to the natural cycles of the non-human biosphere, at least until we understand better how it works.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 17:57
W00t! PA is relevant again economically!

"Mommy, when I grow up, I wanna work in a coal mine!"

And finally Wales has a reason again!!!!!!!!!!!
Bellania
12-08-2008, 18:02
http://www.idrewthis.org/comics/idt20050218science.gif

Give me enough money and a good enough statistics program, and I'll prove that cigarettes solve world hunger, obese people live longer, healthier lives, and swallowing makes chicks thin.

Then again, we scientists usually have annoying things like "morals" and "conscience." They tend to get in the way of our money making ventures.
Bellania
12-08-2008, 18:03
And finally Wales has a reason again!!!!!!!!!!!

You can get coal from whales? Awesome!
Nobel Hobos
12-08-2008, 18:43
You can get coal from whales? All WRIGHT!

Funnied.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 18:48
You can get coal from whales? Awesome!

No, you get oil and corsets from Whales. Coal comes from Wales, the sad little lump of land off England that has coal, slate and nothing else.
Dontgonearthere
12-08-2008, 18:55
No, you get oil and corsets from Whales. Coal comes from Wales, the sad little lump of land off England that has coal, slate and nothing else.

And sheep. You forgot the sheep.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 18:59
And sheep. You forgot the sheep.

And the sheep men that are hidden in the Polling Booths for welsh assembly elections (the one place no one goes!)
Dontgonearthere
12-08-2008, 19:03
And the sheep men that are hidden in the Polling Booths for weslh assembly elections (the one place no one goes!)

How very Lovecraftian.
Are there ancient cities buried in the Welsh countryside where the race of the Shepgon are plotting to enslave the world of men?
Have you ever happened upon any Welsh towns were the men are a bit hunchbacked, have curly white hair and a tendency to bleat on occasion?
Vault 10
12-08-2008, 19:06
Hmm. I for one completely support the global warming. Makes winter tires unnecessary, and I just like when the sea is warm.


Edit:
Just kidding, of course.
But the point is, GW is less harm than pollution.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 19:12
How very Lovecraftian.
Are there ancient cities buried in the Welsh countryside where the race of the Shepgon are plotting to enslave the world of men?
Have you ever happened upon any Welsh towns were the men are a bit hunchbacked, have curly white hair and a tendency to bleat on occasion?

What?
Not that i know of, but its possible.
Yes. Most on the North Coast.
Dontgonearthere
12-08-2008, 19:25
What?
Not that i know of, but its possible.
Yes. Most on the North Coast.

Ahhh, you havent read the Shadow over Innsmouth.
And here I thought Lovecraft was required reading for entry into NSG :p
Bellania
12-08-2008, 19:54
What?
Not that i know of, but its possible.
Yes. Most on the North Coast.

Stop threadjacking! I'd rather have the thread die in peace than turn into some Limey lovefest.

And Dukeburyshire, please, take very little of what I post seriously. Except that. And that. And that, and that, and that, andthatandthatanthatanthatanthat...

I know Wales is one of the four parts of the UK.

Incidentally, when the seas rise their requisite 30-40 feet or so due to Antarctica and Greenland thawing, not much of the UK will be left. So, you blighters better get working on a solution.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 20:01
Stop threadjacking! I'd rather have the thread die in peace than turn into some Limey lovefest.

And Dukeburyshire, please, take very little of what I post seriously. Except that. And that. And that, and that, and that, andthatandthatanthatanthatanthat...

I know Wales is one of the four parts of the UK.

Incidentally, when the seas rise their requisite 30-40 feet or so due to Antarctica and Greenland thawing, not much of the UK will be left. So, you blighters better get working on a solution.

Waaaaay ahead of you!
Free Bikers
12-08-2008, 21:51
That's my job!

...aaand now you've been outsourced! :D
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-08-2008, 22:38
No, you get oil and corsets from Whales. Coal comes from Wales, the sad little lump of land off England that has coal, slate and nothing else.

And that TV show, about those people, you know, the ones in Cardiff who do weird stuff.
Dukeburyshire
12-08-2008, 23:05
Pollution? Pah! I survived Greek Wine, If that doesn't kill you nothing will!
Skalvia
12-08-2008, 23:08
Earth needs to quit Bitchin and get a better Air Conditioning System...

Maybe a Trane...lol....
CthulhuFhtagn
12-08-2008, 23:31
Funnied.

It's spelled "Right". Since they were the right whales to hunt.