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Avast and ahoy, ye scurvey NSG dogs!

It hae' been better than a year since the 4th Parliamentary elections http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504017

What say ye Arridia? Be ye making a 5th?

I be calling on me hearties (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) t' rally fer a new election, if ye've the brass monkies...

Yay for elections!

Wait, we be havin' a parliament?

Yay, erections!












Wait...

Avast and ahoy, ye scurvey NSG dogs!

It hae' been better than a year since the 4th Parliamentary elections http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504017

What say ye Arridia? Be ye making a 5th?

I be calling on me hearties (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) t' rally fer a new election, if ye've the brass monkies...

Brass monkey? That funky monkey?

Raise the Jolly Roger! The Punks and Pirates set sail once more! Yarr!

i like my elections like i like my booze; early and often

I have a bad feeling about this....

Yay, erections!

Here's a fine young lad (I assume this person is male, but I'm not certain) who stands a good chance of getting my vote. At least he knows how to make a simple and firm statement, which is oddly exciting.

Here's a fine young lad (I assume this person is male, but I'm not certain) who stands a good chance of getting my vote. At least he knows how to make a simple and firm statement, which is oddly exciting.

I think "oddly exciting" sums me up quite well, and yes, "lad" is correct.

If ye think I be firm NOW, wait 'till I stand for office!

You should all refuse to participate in these supposedly "free" elections should they occur. Political parties, campaigning and elections are a tool of the bourgeoisie to disguise their selfish class interests behind campaigns for change and action for the "common good". Elections do nothing more than perpetuate false consciousness and extend the alienation of the proleratiat. *sings "Red Flag"* :p

Dammit. I read this...
Yay, erections!


Then this...
i like my elections like i like my booze; early and often

And got totally the wrong end of the stick.....

Do we get to filibuster? Because you know these elections remind me of a very funny story I once heard about the word "filibuster." Apparently, the word comes from what pirates were called, which is fitting, as there seems to be a general pirate theme going on here, and of course by "general" I mean "opposite of specific" and not the name of this sub-forum, (har har har) but where was I oh yes the word filibuster anyway these pirates were called filibusters I believe the word is originally Spanish or perhaps its French it could be both Spanish and French are similar, much closer than they are to English though not as close as Swiss-German and German are to each other or maybe even the way English and Frisian are to each other I think it's Frisian it's a language very similar to Dutch and is linguistically the closest to English but maybe I'm thinking of Flemish but I don't think so I have a pretty good memory and oh right, so, these pirates no wait now I remember from American History 101 the filibusters were not pirates well maybe they were pirates but the word entered English when it referred to Americans who went to Central America to set up their own governments there was one fellow in particular, Walker I believe his name was who went to Nicaragua and set up a government although he came to a rather sticky end this was of course all before the United States government took it upon itself to set up Central American governments and didn't leave it up to private individuals it really is despicable the number of coups and revolutions the US has established south of its border the Colossus of the North indeed but now that I think of it the word probably came into its current meaning when refering to the pirates not the adventurers and that was in the mid-1850s recently the Republicans tried to have it banned of course they use it now that they're the minority again but that just goes to show you can't trust those crazy Republicans.

Aaron, Alan (456) 276-7810
Aaron, Anthony (456) 275-1004
Aaron, Bethany (235) 276-1123
Adams, Albert...

I think I just might participate this year. A moderate, common sense party.

i like my elections like i like my booze; early and often

I like them so much that I vote several times per election.

I wish to stand as a candidate. I support absolute authority, and no bullshitting. Every other candidate wants the former but will tell you about their 'policies' or 'how attractive they are'. Fuck them. Vote Yootopia, for a happier you.

Do you have to be a certain age (Since join date) to run?

I certainly agree. We need more erections er I mean elections around here at NSG.

As for Conservative Morality's question: the elections are parliamentary proportional representation. You vote for a party, and the party submits a list of delegates. THe party gets x percent of the vote, ergo x percent of the available seats.

Wow, I remember the last NSG electioins! Haven't visited this forum since.

Do these things not invariably end in a frankly ridiculous amount of complaining, bitching, arguing, and name-calling?

Long may it continue.

That's half the fun, Nadkor. ;)

Choose [your pogo stick] Wisely Party!!!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/CWP01.jpg


That party rests in peace, quitting while ahead :wink:

Partido de los DOOOM!, anyone?

So, uh, any rules for submitting parties? *Rubs hands in glee*

Scratch that, name change:

Partido de los Gemido!

Partido de los Gemido is el promiso that there will be more-o Spanglish on these forumna!

(And groaningly awful jokes :))

I'd completely forgotten that I was an MP.

In fairness, that probably means I've done a much better job than the ones in real life.

I'd completely forgotten that I was an MP.

In fairness, that probably means I've done a much better job than the ones in real life.

Quite. Cheers! :fluffle:

Vote for me! I'm not sure why and I have no idea what I'm running for (or from), but, vote for me!

Wait, there's a parliament now? Can't do much otherwise I'd know by now.

I plan on starting a Guy Fawkes party.

We do intend to enter Parliament with honest intentions... :p

I plan on starting a Guy Fawkes party.

We do intend to enter Parliament with honest intentions... :p

It should be a blast. Explosive, even.

Vote for me! I'm not sure why and I have no idea what I'm running for (or from), but, vote for me!

You need a party!

*Parties*

You need a party!

*Parties*

I'm an independent write-in candidate. Write me in, I'll give a (Virtual)party.

Maybe we need a Mafia party... :fluffle:

Do we get to filibuster?
No.
I think I just might participate this year. A moderate, common sense party.
It'll never work. Not on this forum.
Do these things not invariably end in a frankly ridiculous amount of complaining, bitching, arguing, and name-calling?

Long may it continue.
God bless democracy.
That's half the fun, Nadkor. ;)
The other half is the complaining, bitching, arguing and name-calling during the parliament.
Choose [your pogo stick] Wisely Party!!!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/CWP01.jpg


That party rests in peace, quitting while ahead :wink:
Yes indeedy.
So, uh, any rules for submitting parties? *Rubs hands in glee*
Yeah, you need to write a manifesto and gather party members. Cos I have nothing better to do I'll go looking for the proper rules.
I'd completely forgotten that I was an MP.

In fairness, that probably means I've done a much better job than the ones in real life.
You think that's bad, I'm the party leader for the unholy bastard child of the NBIP and CYpsWP. Shit, I think that makes me prime minister.
Maybe we need a Mafia party... :fluffle:
I nominate you to do it :fluffle:

Please do not announce your participation until your party has

a) at least two members, and

b) a manifesto, at least TEN FULL LINES in length, agreed upon by all party members.

Them's the rules for submitting a party for participation in the election. Though I advise against trying to make a party until Ariddia appears.

In accordance with the rules, I announce my candidacy for Parliament. My party has more than two members and has a manifesto of more than 10 lines.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562874

A vote for me is a vote for .... - me.

Before I write up a party program or anything, it might be good to get an indication for how many people would in principle be happy to join:

The idea is for a constitutional minarchist party, our main goal being the creation of a constitution that strongly limits the activities of government. It will provide for the provisions of public goods, such as policing, main roads, a currency, regulations to facilitate the smooth working of the economy etc and allow politicians to launch any activist policies beyond that (eg healthcare, welfare etc), but only as voluntary programs. People can sign up for them, pay an extra amount in tax and are then eligible to nominate someone to benefit from the program (usually themselves, but could also be other people, and of course they can pay for more than one person).

It'll be a very mechanical, technocratic government that's run by analysts and experts rather than demagogues. Since the expansion of government is prevented by the constitution, elected politicians will have much less opportunity to screw things up.

On a micro-level, there will be few if any regulation on how people should live their lives. As part of the idea of government not forcing an ideological line on people that's backed up by violence, people will be free to live in whatever sort of society they want. Since it's hard to practically make this happen without some sort of exclusive right to a piece of land, there will be private property rights and a market, not so much because of ideology but because it's the most practicable solution to the given problem.

Oh this is tough. Do I join the pirates, or the party that uses Gunslinger Girls in their signs? Hmm...

I vote in massive numbers so I do not care about the others as I love to win. ;)

!Que? pas de deux?!

Oh this is tough. Do I join the pirates, or the party that uses Gunslinger Girls in their signs? Hmm...

You join us Pirates me heartie. We'll pay you well in rum!

I would like to officially announce that the SSA will infact be competing... assuming any of us are sober enough to write up a manifesto...

If you are interested in pre-applying for a position in the SSA party, please visit our offsite forums (link in my sig, or for you slackers that don't have sigs enables http://z8.invisionfree.com/ssa05 )

I suppose if UMP and SSA are playing I should try make something that vaguely resembles a GM party.


Bleh, stupid democracy.

I suppose if UMP and SSA are playing I should try make something that vaguely resembles a GM party.


Bleh, stupid democracy.

Get on it.

Get on it.

I'll do it eventually.....

I'll do it eventually.....

Eventually is unacceptable!

Eventually is unacceptable!

Then you do it.

Then you do it.

But I'm busy ;)

But I'm busy ;)

You can take a break from being hot for long enough to write a manifesto.

You can take a break from being hot for long enough to write a manifesto.

If I'm taking that sort of break, I'll be in the pool.

I nominate you to do it :fluffle:

Too bad I lost that vote. Oh well. I'm better in an advisory position. :tongue:

FFS, I'll write the damn GM manifesto*, if you lazy asses won't.



*eventually

FFS, I'll write the damn GM manifesto*, if you lazy asses won't.



*eventually

Excellent work Gloe.



Oh, and if you start putting your crazy Ron Paul stuff in it, you're fired.

Excellent work Gloe.



Oh, and if you start putting your crazy Ron Paul stuff in it, you're fired.

What Donald Trump said!

Excellent work Gloe.



Oh, and if you start putting your crazy Ron Paul stuff in it, you're fired.

Relax, I'm only going to be putting my own views in.

ANARCHY IN NSG! o/

Relax, I'm only going to be putting my own views in.

ANARCHY IN NSG! o/

That's UMP's thing, we need our own thing. Failing that, we need new words to describe their thing and claim that they're describing our thing which is distinct from theirs.

I'm unsure if the UDCP would be joining or not, though there are enough of us still around.

Relax, I'm only going to be putting my own views in.

ANARCHY IN NSG! o/Smash the state!
Destroy capitalism!

That's UMP's thing, we need our own thing. Failing that, we need new words to describe their thing and claim that they're describing our thing which is distinct from theirs.

I'll figure something out.

its kinda about time... but i won't take part this time. i've had my fun

You bastard. D:

I'm unsure if the UDCP would be joining or not, though there are enough of us still around.

Smash the state!
Destroy capitalism!

I'd be game for reincarnating the UDCP.

its kinda about time... but i won't take part this time. i've had my fun

Send all your votes to me. I will count them all myself.

>.>
<.<

Them's the rules for submitting a party for participation in the election. Though I advise against trying to make a party until Ariddia appears.
So... We can't announce participation until we have at least two members... But then how do you convince other NSGers (Convince, NSGers, HA!) to join said party? Do you make a separate thread or something?

*puts on Guy Faawkes mask*

Excuse me gentlemen, when is this parliament thing going to take place?

*puts on Guy Faawkes mask*

Excuse me gentlemen, when is this parliament thing going to take place?

Well, I know who I can count on to join the Guy Fawkes Party...

Well, I know who I can count on to join the Guy Fawkes Party...

And you like trosky too!?!?!?11 :eek:

We shall form party.... you bring the lobbyists Ill bring the girls

I'm running as an independant. Vote for me. Why? Because I'm honest. I'll tell you to your face how I'm going to screw you over for my personal benefit, it's only polite.

I'll make hospitals illegal, while secretly owning the black market hospitals you'll be forced to go to for treatment.

Also I'll sleep with everyone. Twice.

penis

And you like trosky too!?!?!?11 :eek:

We shall form party.... you bring the lobbyists Ill bring the girls

I'm writing the manifesto as we speak. :tongue:

I'm writing the manifesto as we speak. :tongue:

*handles trotskylvania a glass of vodka* "you´ll need it for manifesto."

So... We can't announce participation until we have at least two members... But then how do you convince other NSGers (Convince, NSGers, HA!) to join said party? Do you make a separate thread or something?

That's how it usually worked, yes.

*handles trotskylvania a glass of vodka* "you´ll need it for manifesto."

*Drinks vodka, thinks about including mandatory beard rule in manifesto*

Ah well, it's up! I take it I can include you as a member?

That's how it usually worked, yes.

Thanks for teh info.*Goes off to make a new thread*

Avast and ahoy, ye scurvey NSG dogs!

It hae' been better than a year since the 4th Parliamentary elections http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504017

What say ye Arridia? Be ye making a 5th?

I be calling on me hearties (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) t' rally fer a new election, if ye've the brass monkies...
Too much pomp and not enough circumstance. We don't need no steenking parliament.

LG for King!@!@

Too much pomp and not enough circumstance. We don't need no steenking parliament.

LG for King!@!@

LG can't be King, he already holds a much more powerful position - he's the resident jester.

Maybe Hammurab for King?

Vote UnModerated for great fuckery!

Vote UnModerated for great fuckery!

Damn you, Ruffy, just damn you. How can I win, if you won't join the NIFLPP? Are you not tempted by all the liquor you can drink and fine gourmet cuisine?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/time_lapse/ssaparty2.gif (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563090)

Vote SSA for a sexier and more fun Nationstates but still with the bits that are good.

What say ye Arridia? Be ye making a 5th?


Sorry for not replying sooner; I've only just noticed this thread. (And I've only read the first post.) I hardly ever come onto NSG these days.

So, uhm... I don't really think I'd have time to organise new elections. In fact, I almost certainly wouldn't. But if someone else wants to do it (properly), they'd have my blessing.

I'd be game for reincarnating the UDCP.

Feel free. :)

I'm unsure if the UDCP would be joining or not, though there are enough of us still around.

Smash the state!
Destroy capitalism!

Perhaps the UDCP would be utterly meaningless without the Classic Liberals as a counterpoint. But I really don't have time art the moment to reconstruct them.

Arrrr, I be too lazy a seadog ta suffer a parliamentary proceedin' much too often. It takes time outa me plunerin' and pilgerin', ye know...

Arrrr, I be too lazy a seadog ta suffer a parliamentary proceedin' much too often. It takes time outa me plunerin' and pilgerin', ye know...

You should support the SSA... We have a dedicated minister of Piracy and Swashbuckling Affairs. It cuts out the middleman and means that your views can get a better representation than they do in the current system.

Follow the link in my signature (the one about the election) to read our plans!

Vote SSA for a sexier and more fun Nationstates but still with the bits that are good.

Your logo needs more Helvetica. The serifity hurts my eyes.

Say… this gives me an idea for a party…

Your logo needs more Helvetica. The serifity hurts my eyes.

Say… this gives me an idea for a party…

Hey! I spent about 5 minutes making that logo before :mad:

I am throwing my support behind the Punks and Pirates Party.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/Smunkee/sheep.jpg

FARp.....because if you don't join our party, it means you're cruel.

Farp might support faux animals... but did you know that for a faux animal to exist they must cut down 3 rainforests and use 400L of oil every week. That is per animal.

Now who is cruel?

When are elections?

good question.... Is anyone actually organising anything official related to this?

(or as official as an unofficial election for ruler of the universe is concerned)

Well, I'd say the parties need at least a couple weeks to gather supporters. We could have elections the first of September???

Suits us...

So, 1st of September, the election opens. For how long?
72 hours enough?

How many seats are there to be won?

Actually... let's first look at the established rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9084706&postcount=2)...

1. Free and open elections shall be held every four months at the minimum.
No problem, we are planning the election now.

2. The parliament may, by a two thirds (17) or greater majority vote to call an election at any time prior to the next scheduled date. (This alows us to advance an election to avoid exams, Easter etc. )
It seems we need the 4th Parliament to set a date.

3. All parties that meet the qualification requirements shall be elligible to enter the general election


4. The general election shall be a contest between parties, not between individuals.
Easy enough.

5. Voting shall be by public poll held within the Nation States General Forum
Ok.

6. Qualification of parties for the general election is to be seperately discussed and agreed during the term of the first parliament. It is to be established in time for parties to qualify for the next election.
Does the 4th Parliament need to do this?

7. There shall be a quorum based proportional representation system of determining the outcome of the election
Ok.

8. Elections shall run for a minimum of five (5) days to allow opportunity for all members of NS general to vote.
That answers your question of the number of days to leave the polls open.

We need more debate about the election rules. Because it's better that it happens before the voting than after.

I vote myrth

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I've made a list of the parties that seem to be running so far. This list is by no means meant to be complete, it is merely a list of the parties that I have seen so far mentioned.


The Punks & Pirates Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261)
The Thinking Spammers Party (SSA) Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563090)
The Marijuana Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563188)
The Space Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563112)
The Anti-Gravity Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563118)
The Apathy Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563182)
The Faux-Animal Rights Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563101)
The Unmoderated Paradise Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562900)
The Pinata Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563107)
The San-Serif Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563099)
The Bitter Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563102)
The NSG Independent Free Libertarian Part-time Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562874)
The New British Imperial Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562872)
The Guy Fawkes Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562955)
The New Pug Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562956)
The Centrist Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563124)


If there are any corrections required, please say so.

I was gonna do this a few months ago, but never got it all together.

I've made a list of the parties that seem to be running so far. This list is by no means meant to be complete, it is merely a list of the parties that I have seen so far mentioned.


The Thinking Spammers Party (SSA) Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563090"Party Page[/URL]
The Marijuana Party [URL="http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563188)
The Space Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563112)
The Anti-Gravity Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563118)
The Apathy Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563182)
The Faux-Animal Rights Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563101)
The Punks & Pirates Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261)
The Unmoderated Paradise Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562900)
The Pinata Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563107)
The San-Serif Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563099)
The Bitter Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563102)
The NSG Independent Free Libertarian Part-time Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562874)
The New British Imperial Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562872)
The Guy Fawkes Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562955)
The New Pug Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562956)
The Centrist Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563124)


If there are any corrections required, please say so.

It pleases me that you have rightly predicted the result of this election

I've made a list of the parties that seem to be running so far. This list is by no means meant to be complete, it is merely a list of the parties that I have seen so far mentioned.


The Punks & Pirates Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261)
The Thinking Spammers Party (SSA) Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563090)
The Marijuana Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563188)
The Space Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563112)
The Anti-Gravity Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563118)
The Apathy Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563182)
The Faux-Animal Rights Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563101)
The Unmoderated Paradise Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562900)
The Pinata Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563107)
The San-Serif Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563099)
The Bitter Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563102)
The NSG Independent Free Libertarian Part-time Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562874)
The New British Imperial Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562872)
The Guy Fawkes Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562955)
The New Pug Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562956)
The Centrist Party Party Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563124)


If there are any corrections required, please say so.

That looks pretty good, but I'm going to have to request that you drop the Guy Fawkes Party from the list. As the Party's founder, I have suddenly found myself with the responsibility of resurrecting a more serious NSG party. Sorry for the inconvenience.