NationStates Jolt Archive

That's right. I'm tired of hearing about how there is/isn't a left-wing bias on NS. We're taking a little test to show.

This one in fact. (http://www.okcupid.com/politics)


It happens that I am:

Social Liberal
(90% permissive)
and an...

Economic Conservative
(91% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Anarchist
What about you? Are you going to prove the test to prove the bias theory right/wrong, or are you going to say the heck with it?

Come now, you know just how impossible it is to settle anything once and for all on NSG.

I don't think there are many people denying there's a liberal leaning on this forum.

This test is idiotic, and not only because it assumes one is from the USA and asks stupid questions, like whether I care that USA companies are outsourcing. It's moronic because it calls me both an "economic liberal" and a "socialist". Those two are diametrically opposed. Liberalism favours private ownership and free markets with minimal government intrusion, while socialism favours the direct opposite.

Inane.

This test is idiotic, and not only because it assumes its one is from the USA. It calls me both an "economic liberal" and a "socialist". Those two are diametrically opposed. Liberalism favours private ownership and free markets with minimal government intrusion, while socialism favours the direct opposite.

Inane.

In the USA the term 'liberal' is left-wing and frequently used in conjunction with Socialism.

You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)

and an...

Economic Moderate
(56% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness

I personally don't think the test is that great, especially for a non-american. For example, when I click strongly disagree for one American is worth several foreigners, thats not because I have a sense of Right and Wrong, its because I don't care about Americans just as much as I don't care about everyone. Plus I really do want a "ignore question" or "even" selection. I don't like tests that force me to take a positive or negative attitude on something.

This test is idiotic, and not only because it assumes one is from the USA and asks stupid questions, like whether I care that USA companies are outsourcing. It's moronic because it calls me both an "economic liberal" and a "socialist". Those two are diametrically opposed. Liberalism favours private ownership and free markets with minimal government intrusion, while socialism favours the direct opposite.

Inane.
They're using the modern USA definition of Liberal. What you describe is now, unfortunately, known as Libertarianism.

I apologize for the US centrism though.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(78% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(16% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (105, -125)
modscore: (10, 47)
raw: (1344)

In the USA the term 'liberal' is left-wing and frequently used in conjunction with Socialism.

Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels. That doesn't change the inanity of it, nor does it lessen the unsuitability of the quiz for use on an international forum.

Score tally:

Anarchist: 1
Democrat:1
Socialist: 1

Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels. That doesn't change the inanity of it, nor does it lessen the unsuitability of the quiz for use on an international forum.
Fass, it'd be nice if you'd try not to insult the US in almost every thread you go in. It gets annoying.

Fass, it'd be nice if you'd try not to insult the US in almost every thread you go in. It gets annoying.

I'm sorry that the truth is insulting of the USA. Actually I am not. It's the USA and its denizens that are rendered a sorry lot because of that.

I'm sorry that the truth is insulting of the USA. Actually I am not. It's the USA and its denizens that are rendered sorry because of that.

The truth is that American English, like every other language, changes with time. Meanings of words can change radically within only a hundred years, sometimes less. So I'd really appreciate if you'd please try not to insult the US on a thread where it is just BARELY relevant.

You are a Social Moderate (55% permissive)
and an Economic Liberal (33% permissive)
You are best described as a: Centrist

This is going to replace my political compass score in my sig (for reference, that was Economic Left/Right: -7.12, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-5.85). This one is fairly accurate, political compass is a left-libertarian skewed joke.

EDIT: Actually, no I won't replace it in my sig, a bit too wordy. I'm going to retake the political compass while reformulating the questions in my mind so I can do it as if they were phrased in a semi-neutral manner.

So we've got:

1 Anarchist (Me)
2 Socialists (Port Arcana, Fassitude)
1 Centrist (Dumb Ideologies)
1 Democrat (Rubgish)

Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels. That doesn't change the inanity of it, nor does it lessen the unsuitability of the quiz for use on an international forum.

It's not that bizarre. It gets confusing since conservative economics IS liberal economics if you use the terms to their exact definition. These days most people who identify themselves as liberal (especially in Europe as a matter of fact) tend to be socialists (or pseudo-socialists), so it's not that unreasonable to label that kind of economic approach as liberal.

I scored Capitalist (60% Social Liberal, 81% economic conservative) but most of NS are unrepentant commies, I admit.

It's not that bizarre. It gets confusing since conservative economics IS liberal economics if you use the terms to their exact definition. These days most people who identify themselves as liberal (especially in Europe as a matter of fact) tend to be socialists (or pseudo-socialists), so it's not that unreasonable to label that kind of economic approach as liberal.

Uh, no. In Europe, if you label yourself "liberal", it will immediately be known that you are not a socialist or particularly left-wing - it will be apparent that you favour the free market and other capitalist ideas. You're spouting poppycock.

1 Anarchist (Me)
2 Socialists (Port Arcana, Fassitude)
1 Centrist (Dumb Ideologies)
1 Democrat (Rubgish)
1 Capitalist (Ordo Drakul)

Uh, no. In Europe, if you label yourself "liberal", it will immediately be known that you are not a socialist or particularly left-wing - it will be apparent that you favour the free market and other capitalist ideas. You're spouting poppycock.

Psst. He's in Europe.

The truth is that American English, like every other language, changes with time. Meanings of words can change radically within only a hundred years, sometimes less.

The meanings of these words do not change, and it is not up to the USA to change them, either, seeing as they are all European inventions - liberalism, socialism, capitalism and so on. That the USA has bastardised and corrupted these meanings within her own borders, just like it has for instance when it comes to calling "red" its right-wing states when red is a colour used by the left-wing throughout the world, doesn't change them. It just shows how far into ignorance the USA has slid.

Having done the test, I do somewhat agree with Fass, the test sucks. This isn't accurate at all.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(71% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(33% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat

Psst. He's in Europe.

I am aware of that claim. It is not the first time his claims about phenomena in Europe have been false, though.

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

(terrible quiz!)

The meanings of these words do not change, and it is not up to the USA to change them, either, seeing as they are all European inventions - liberalism, socialism, capitalism and so on. That the USA has bastardised and corrupted these meanings within her own borders, just like it has for instance when it comes to calling "red" its right-wing states when red is a colour used by the left-wing throughout the world, doesn't change them. It's just shows how far into ignorance the USA has slid.
Fass, this is tiring. It would seem that you continually insult the USA for no other reason than insulting it. Do you speak Swedish the same way they did back in 900 AD? No? Then I kindly ask you to stop.

I am aware of that claim. It is not the first time his claims about phenomena in Europe have been false, though.
You aren't always right Fass.

Uh, no. In Europe, if you label yourself "liberal", it will immediately be known that you are not a socialist or particularly left-wing - it will be apparent that you favour the free market and other capitalist ideas. You're spouting poppycock.

That's not what's happened in my experience, I've in fact encountered many people who say that you actually can't be a liberal if you support free market and minimal government ideals. Although I doubt either of us has enough experience to firmly say either way.

1 Anarchist
3 Socialists
1 Centrist
2 Democrats
1 Capitalist

1 Anarchist (CM)
3 Socialists (Port Arcana, Fassitude, Biotopia)
1 Centrist (Dumb Ideologies)
2 Democrat (Rubgish, Hydesland)
1 Capitalist (Ordo Drakul)

Fass, this is tiring. It would seem that you continually insult the USA for no other reason than insulting it.

Again, I say: it's the truth. That it insults the USA is but the USA's problem. I won't stop speaking the truth.

Do you speak Swedish the same way they did back in 900 AD?

Swedish did not exist in 900 CE. Those who lived in this geographic area spoke primarily Old Norse.

Then I kindly ask you to stop.

I kindly ask you to start using the internationally recognised meanings of words, and not some colonial pidgin, especially when it comes to an attempt to label people's politics on an international forum.

What a find more hilarious is that a democrat is somehow more economically left wing than a socialist.

I never said it was perfect. Still was better than the Political compass thing.

Again, I say: it's the truth. That it insults the USA is but the USA's problem. I won't stop speaking the truth.



Swedish did not exist in 900 CE. Those who lived in this geographic area spoke primarily Old Norse.



I kindly ask you to start using the internationally recognised meanings of words, and not some colonial pidgin, especially when it comes to an attempt to label people's politics on an international forum.
Congrats Fass, you have the honor of being ignored. Please do not respond to my posts, as I will not see your responses. Thank you.

That's not what's happened in my experience, I've in fact encountered many people who say that you actually can't be a liberal if you support free market and minimal government ideals.

You've met idiots.

I never said it was perfect. Still was better than the Political compass thing.

I disagree, I think the political compass is more accurate and more appropriate for an international forum.

Congrats Fass, you have the honor of being ignored. Please do not respond to my posts, as I will not see your responses. Thank you.

Run and hide from the truth, kid. That won't change it, nor your epic failure with this thread. And you will click through to read this. You're only deluding yourself.

You aren't always right Fass.

I am now. Very much so.

You've met idiots.

Yes but these idiots seem to be in such high abundance that the term liberal doesn't quite have the same connotation when used any more.

Fass, must you turn everything into an America-bash? We're no the best, but we're not Stalinist either, so kindly lay off and stop derailing this thread.

I scored socialist, right in the middle of Obama's forehead.

Yes but these idiots seem to be in such high abundance that the term liberal doesn't quite have the same connotation when used any more.

These idiots may be in high abundance in your vicinity. That's all that can be drawn from that. In Europe, and the world at large, liberal = free markets, private ownership and so on. Just look at the ELDR.

You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)


and an...

Economic Moderate
(41% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Democrat


I think several of the questions are very poorly worded. For example, when it asked, "People should not be allowed to have children they cannot afford" I had to agree; NOT because I believe bearing children should be regulated, but because I believe that nobody should be unable to afford children should they choose to have them.

Rolling squid;13908448']Fass, must you turn everything into an America-bash?

I believe by "America" you jingoistically mean the USA, and again, I have said nothing but the truth. If the truth is a USA-bash, well... don't bitch to me about it. I don't have the power, nor the will, to change that.

I scored socialist, right in the middle of Obama's forehead.

Which again highlights how much this quiz fails, if it would label Obama a socialist.

Fass, I present you with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_American_liberalism. I think your argument just fell apart.


EDIT:

I believe by "America" you jingoistically mean the USA, and again, I have said nothing but the truth. If the truth is a USA-bash, well... don't bitch to me about it. I don't have the power not the will to change that.

right.....
Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels. That doesn't change the inanity of it, nor does it lessen the unsuitability of the quiz for use on an international forum.

1 Anarchist
3 Socialists
1 Centrist
3 Democrats
1 Capitalist

I am now. Very much so.

Stop pretending that there is only one true definition of liberalism and that liberal political philosophy developed solely in Europe. And don't pretend that the US is the only country to diverge from the traditional notion of liberalism. European liberals, especially during and after World War 2, have changed their policies over the years.

Edit:
Your true political self:
You are a
Social Liberal
(60% permissive)
and an...
Economic Conservative
(86% permissive)
You are best described as a:
Capitalist

There isn't a bias on NSG, there are just more lefties. In other news, Archduke Ferdinand has been assassinated.
Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(86% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(28% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Also, lol my option isn't on the poll.

All right, no more:

POLL POWERS, ACTIVATE!:D

Your results are in!

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(21% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I kinda cheated since I'm not an American but it's good to be placed alongside with Ghandi and Senator (and presidential hopeful) Obama :D

Rolling squid;13908470']I think your argument just fell apart

You apparently didn't read that, nor do you know what liberalism is, if you think that did anything but support me.

There isn't a bias on NSG, there are just more lefties. In other news, Archduke Ferdinand has been assassinated.


HE HAS!?!? Send in the troops, we're going to war!:tongue:

According to this test:

76% Permissive (Social Liberal)

11% Permissive (Economic Liberal)

You are best described as a: Socialist

Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels. That doesn't change the inanity of it, nor does it lessen the unsuitability of the quiz for use on an international forum.

The first page of the test actually carries a disclaimer that basically says it is not geared for international definitions, but that internationals are welcome to take it anyway.

If you then go ahead and take the test, and still complain about it's definitions, the problem isn't with the test.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(80% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Libertarian

Uh, no. In Europe, if you label yourself "liberal", it will immediately be known that you are not a socialist or particularly left-wing - it will be apparent that you favour the free market and other capitalist ideas. You're spouting poppycock.

On the contrary, in Europe, if you label yourself 'liberal', it will immediately be known that you are SOCIALLY permissive. The economic aspects vary from liberal party to liberal party.

The main Swedish liberal party, I seem to recall, favour mixed economy.

Then again, of course, the main Swedish liberal party has also called for teachers to report children that promote 'extreme' ideas, and got caught breaking into other party's offices to steal their data.

So - by Swedish definitions, perhaps, 'liberal' might be understood as 'fascist' anywhere else in Europe.

"Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(15% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist"

Not a good test for an international viewpoint.

More important than the left/right slant is that this forum is dominated by people who are socially "permissive". I assume that the poll will turn up Socialists + Democrats and Libertarian + Capitalists but ther will be few selecting Fascism + Totalitarianism and possibly limited numbers of Republicans too.

Social Liberal
(100% permissive)

Economic Conservative
(97% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Anarchist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

---

Having said that, I'm not sure how it distinguishes libertarians and anarchist.

I've always consider myself a minarchist libertarian.
It's my belief that federal government's powers should be constitutionally limited to virtually none apart from maintaining the essential systems such as monetary.
I consider local governments acceptable, but with their power constitutionally limited, operating with high direct democracy involvement, and restricted in size of populace they may govern.

In other words, a collective of people has the right to decide to make wearing underpants mandatory among them, but only among a collective of a small enough size that it would bother each of them - no sitting in Washington and deciding what people need to wear in Florida, just because someone in Texas has voted for you.

You apparently didn't read that, nor do you know what liberalism is, if you think that did anything but support me.

Come again? Your argument seems to be that American doesn't have liberals, just left of center people. That article seems to prove you false.

Not a good test, and one confused as to the meaning of "anarchist." But I got Socialist.

More important than the left/right slant is that this forum is dominated by people who are socially "permissive". I assume that the poll will turn up Socialists + Democrats and Libertarian + Capitalists but ther will be few selecting Fascism + Totalitarianism and possibly limited numbers of Republicans too.

You can be socially permissive AND totalitarian, you know.

Yes, I am aware of the USA ignorance of political history and cockamamie, bizarro world usage of political labels.

Liberalism as a political movement, in both the US and Europe, is much broader than you give it credit for. Pretty much every mainstream political side these days can lay reasonable claim to being part of "liberalism."

For various historical reasons, prominent among them the fact that the US never developed a socialist movement, the people who continued to go by the label "liberal" here identify with a less free market form of liberalism than the people who go by the label in Europe.

But both usages are consistent with liberalism broadly conceived, and thus neither are illegitimate... and more importantly, like it or not "liberal" is used in a particular way in the US, and when it comes to a political test oriented toward US citizens, using it that way is perfectly appropriate and reasonable.

That's how language works. Deal with it.

You can be socially permissive AND totalitarian, you know.

Not on this test

I consider myself a social democrat:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/jahadi/plaatjes/politics07.png

That's right. I'm tired of hearing about how there is/isn't a left-wing bias on NS. We're taking a little test to show.

and how will it show that? i mean, it's not all that good of a test anyways, but it will almost certainly show that there are distinctly more people an the leftish side of things than the right. that's what we've always found when doing political compass surveys. but that won't show bias in either of the relevant senses.

The first page of the test actually carries a disclaimer that basically says it is not geared for international definitions, but that internationals are welcome to take it anyway.

If you then go ahead and take the test, and still complain about it's definitions, the problem isn't with the test.

So according to the test itself it's unsuitable for the stated purpose of this thread. Hmm...

"Time to settle this once and for all!"

On NSG.

Famous last words.

apparently I'm a socialist now...please tell me why Obama is in the extreme far right

this test give me a headache and to kill the thread-jack we have dictionaries (http://www.answers.com/liberal&r=67) (fass is correct and I have never encountered any European/un-American to use the term liberal like a USian)

When I'm talking to someone and I find out they've served in a war, I respect them more.

this question confuses me :confused:

also:

Eventually, a computer will write the best novel ever written.

what a bizarre question

According to this, I'm Hilary Clinton!

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(78% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(30% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

According to this, I'm Hilary Clinton!

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(78% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(30% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I want a divorce.

I want a divorce.

from who?

does it really consider Obama as socialist? cos that's funny.

You are a

Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(5% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.
loc: (112, -169)
modscore: (3, 48)
raw: (446)

So according to the test itself it's unsuitable for the stated purpose of this thread. Hmm...

Not really. The thread doesn't claim to be using Euro or American definitions of liberal, etc. It claims to be about the left/right split, and using THAT test sets the paramteres... we're using the American terms.

this test give me a headache and to kill the thread-jack we have dictionaries (http://www.answers.com/liberal&r=67) (fass is correct and I have never encountered any European/un-American to use the term liberal like a USian)


The very first definition of liberal would disagree with you:

Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

Neo-Classical conservative economic values are traditional and generally orthodox in the west.

What about the second definition?

Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

Progress is the most important idea here, considering that 'progressive economics' is generally mixed socialism.

this test give me a headache and to kill the thread-jack we have dictionaries (http://www.answers.com/liberal&r=67) (fass is correct and I have never encountered any European/un-American to use the term liberal like a USian)


That wasn't Fass' argument. It also isn't used throughout Europe as Fass says it is. Hell, it isn't even used in Sweden how Fass says it is.

Not really. The thread doesn't claim to be using Euro or American definitions of liberal, etc. It claims to be about the left/right split, and using THAT test sets the paramteres... we're using the American terms.

Yes. So it won't settle anything, since it is using American terms and US centric questions, and since this still is an international forum.

The test is only suitable for the stated purpose of the thread as long as only Americans are involved.

According to this, I'm Hilary Clinton!

I want a divorce.

I'm not sure which one of you that scare me the most right now!

*Flees from Hill and Bill*

You are a

Social Liberal
(66% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (62, -119)
modscore: (11, 40)
raw: (1537)


PS- US definition of liberal is European definition of conservative... lol


PPS- Mike Huckabee is a fascist?

You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(21% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (87, -106)
modscore: (13, 44)

Personally I'd say I'm more left wing than that, but it's a US test.

our true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(50% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(80% permissive)

You are best described as a: Capitalist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I think my description fits me well.

Does anyone not have a well developed sense of right and wrong and believe in economic fairness?

I want a divorce.
Hey, I stood by you when you were being blown by that Lewinsky bint, now you stand by me while I become Obama's bitch!

Not really. The thread doesn't claim to be using Euro or American definitions of liberal, etc. It claims to be about the left/right split, and using THAT test sets the paramteres... we're using the American terms.

To be fair, most people who would accuse NSG of having a bias would probably be from the U.S. so in order to evaluate this claim it would make sense to use U.S. definitions.

You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(26% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Eh, I suppose my journey's complete then. I've jumped the Republican ship and now I'm on the other side of the field.

You are a

Social Liberal
(80% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (112, -119)
modscore: (11, 48)
raw: (1446)

Eh, I suppose my journey's complete then. I've jumped the Republican ship and now I'm on the other side of the field.

You could argue that - anyone who has supported the historical Republican values - has actually had the 'ship' jump out from under them.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(63% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Makes sense. I think I'm more economically conservative than that, but whatever.

Hey, I stood by you when you were being blown by that Lewinsky bint, now you stand by me while I become Obama's bitch!

How much action you think I'm going to get with you being my wife? I mean, we haven't slept in the same bad in 6 years! Its wearing on me. I'm a sexual being, honey, and I need action to keep my sanity. And that tooth lined vagina of yours just doesn't cut it anymore.

Social Liberal
(81% permissive)

Economic Liberal
(23% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Strong Democrat

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

That's funny, I consider myself more centrist by Canadian standards.

How much action you think I'm going to get with you being my wife? I mean, we haven't slept in the same bad in 6 years! Its wearing on me. I'm a sexual being, honey, and I need action to keep my sanity. And that tooth lined vagina of yours just doesn't cut it anymore.
Is that why we stopped sleeping together? I know you used to like my old vagina dentata scraping against you but since I got all those cavities...

I'll get dentures, I swear!

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Conservative
(38% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(5% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (-44, -169)
modscore: (3, 23)

It says I'm a centrist, I consider myself to be more right wing.

I'm probably as far right as the Conservatives in the UK were about 20 years ago. (As in recent times both Labour and the Tories have moved closer to the centre.)

Your true political self:

You are a
Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...
Economic Liberal
(16% permissive)

You are best described as a:
Socialist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

So far, socialists FTW apparently.

You are a Social Liberal (70% permissive)
Economic Liberal (30% permissive)

You are best described as a: Democrat

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

...and for the record, americans in general tend to lean further towards conservative than Europeans and Canadians. In Dubya and Gore ran in Canada, for example, Gore would have swept every provicne except Alberta.

That's right. I'm tired of hearing about how there is/isn't a left-wing bias on NS. We're taking a little test to show.

This one in fact. (http://www.okcupid.com/politics)


It happens that I am:

What about you? Are you going to prove the test to prove the bias theory right/wrong, or are you going to say the heck with it?

Terrible test. Especially their labelling methods. I fall way into the socially permissive corner and way into the economically restrictive corner. I am, however, an anarchist, not a socialist. This would be because I believe in no government.

You should go find the thread a while back where someone made a graph of everyone's political compass results. That was fairly decisive.

EDIT: Here's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541746) the thread. Unfortunately, it seems that Ermarian's system is currently a little borked, but I'll go find him on IRC and ask him to take a look at it.

You are a

Social Conservative
(36% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(6% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat

This test fails. I don't think the Democrats and I share very much in common.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(88% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(11% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (143, -144)
modscore: (7, 53)
raw: (1051)


And I agree that this test is full of suck. Obama a socialist? Please.

You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist


Well, I'm a Social Democrat, actually.

You know, Fass's ridiculousness about it aside, he's right about one thing: this test is far too US-centric and therefore is worthless for an international forum, and even if that weren't true, it's just a bad test of this stuff on general principles. There's no neutral option, for one, which I feel would have been necessary for some of the questions since they're really debateable and I could hold one position or the other depending on the exact circumstances involved.

Really, it's a bad test. Anyway, here's my result:

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

I question being called a socialist. At most I'm a Social Democrat.

Is that why we stopped sleeping together? I know you used to like my old vagina dentata scraping against you but since I got all those cavities...

I'll get dentures, I swear!

It's too late for that. I'm leaving you. For your intern.

That test sucks. I personally think most people are too stupid to know what's good for them.......being as most people are stupid. However, I don't see why that's any of the government's business.

Although, I will post my "results" for you



Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(90% permissive)


and an...

Economic Conservative
(71% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Libertarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (149, 81)
modscore: (43, 54)

That's right. I'm tired of hearing about how there is/isn't a left-wing bias on NS. We're taking a little test to show.

This one in fact. (http://www.okcupid.com/politics)


It happens that I am:

What about you? Are you going to prove the test to prove the bias theory right/wrong, or are you going to say the heck with it?

You are a

Social Liberal
(63% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(31% permissive)

This test is idiotic, and not only because it assumes one is from the USA and asks stupid questions, like whether I care that USA companies are outsourcing. It's moronic because it calls me both an "economic liberal" and a "socialist". Those two are diametrically opposed. Liberalism favours private ownership and free markets with minimal government intrusion, while socialism favours the direct opposite.

Inane.

Well, are you just going to sit there and complain, or posit an alternative?

Tried taking this again as some of the questions I really couldn't answer accurately, and this time my test came out totally differently even though I change my answer slightly on one or two questions only.


Your true political self:You are a

Social Conservative
(33% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(8% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Totalitarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc:

You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist

Actually I consider myself a democratic socialist, economic left/social libertarian.

The answer I got from the quiz did not accuratly represent my views.

I ARE SOCIALIST?!?!

No really.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(16% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

I kindly ask you to start using the internationally recognised meanings of words, and not some colonial pidgin, especially when it comes to an attempt to label people's politics on an international forum.

That's a sensible enough suggestion, though you might've used fewer Americanisms in making it. Unless that was the joke. :tongue: As much as I love our (Americans') use of the language, it couldn't hurt to standardize things a bit where confusion is probable.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(31% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (99, -69)
modscore: (19, 46)
raw: (2343)


I'm not sure how I feel about this test. Whatever, I'm registered NPA.

Come now, you know just how impossible it is to settle anything once and for all on NSG.This.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/nilsbull/dobbsapproved.gif
Hormetic Principle in play, perhaps.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(55% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(26% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat

How the hell is democrat a 'political' leaning? it's a bloody party.

You are a

Social Liberal
(85% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(25% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat

You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(30% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(30% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Yay!
.... you'll never last. Your kind never does. :(

That's a sensible enough suggestion, though you might've used fewer Americanisms in making it. Unless that was the joke. :tongue: As much as I love our (Americans') use of the language, it couldn't hurt to standardize things a bit where confusion is probable.

The problem is - perhaps more in politics than anywhere else... use determines meaning. 'The Liberal Party' might be what a party calls itself, but there's no rule that forces that party to conform to a certain agenda.

there's no rule that forces that party to conform to a certain agenda.Not even those fun times in '04 with the Republicans?

Not even those fun times in '04 with the Republicans?

Okay, no external rule. ;)

Ok, so this is not shocking as this is what I've known myself to be for a while now. Ho-hum.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(66% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(71% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Okay, no external rule. ;)True, true ... although i'm hardpressed to see anything other than devotion to party as an internal consistency on part of republicans. :p

True, true ... although i'm hardpressed to see anything other than devotion to party as an internal consistency on part of republicans. :p

Some of them are very badly dressed...?

If you want to get anywhere in the party, being able to talk is a handicap?

If you have to do something morally questionable, make sure it means fucking a lot of people. Democrats tend to just fuck one at a time...

:)?

I'm sorry that the truth is insulting of the USA. Actually I am not. It's the USA and its denizens that are rendered a sorry lot because of that.

He has a point. You go past the point of being critical and run right into the "dick" zone. Dick has nothing to do with your sexuality by the way. While there are Americans that are ignorant of history, politics, and anthropology, this does not give you the right to stereotype everyone. I was going to make a comment about "boohoo, why can't everyone be as great as the Swedish." Nearly every post you make has a shit on America tone. We're sorry if we get tired of it after a while.

You are a

Social Moderate
(41% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(71% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Republican


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

What's even lovelier is it pinned me on top of McCain's forehead.. *rubs his chin* troublesome indeed..

If you have to do something morally questionable, make sure it means fucking a lot of people. Democrats tend to just fuck one at a time...

:)?
Oh yeah. Profit-mindedness a plus!

You aren't always right Fass.

Are you fucking kidding me? Don't tell me this is true because it will set my world into a shame spiral. How dare you say no when the answer is clearly yes.

You've met idiots.

Right! Because he's had conversations with people who disagree with you they are stupid. I'm not quite sure if being a total d-bag is an actionable offense on NSG, but as a Libertarian I can be a big boy and shrug it off. I like how you claim to have a cornerstone on "the truth." I would be proud if my thoughts were straight from the mouth of God and omnipotent in nature. Words take different meaning when used on context. This is why words have more than one definition. Vocabulary can change meaning based upon where the are used. Shit, words have different meanings in different localities within the same country. :hail: to you Sir Fass, holder of the one and only objective truth.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(43% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(38% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Centrist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. l

I am yet to do the test but opening up the page looks like it is American biased and as such would mean that I wont get an accurate description of my beliefs.

Now I consider myself to be liberal and I believe in the ideals of liberalism, yet I dislike left wing ideals and people on here would not agree that I am a Liberal but then that is because Americans do have different ideas on what constitutes what it is to be liberal, or I do but whatever.

Place me down as a Liberal CM, and sorry about that crack I made about your mind.

You could argue that - anyone who has supported the historical Republican values - has actually had the 'ship' jump out from under them.

How true, and why 'true' republicans cannot get a break because of this.

You are a

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(36% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Centrist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I kindly ask you to start using the internationally recognised meanings of words, and not some colonial pidgin, especially when it comes to an attempt to label people's politics on an international forum.

Interestingly enough, colonial pidgin is much more apt for the environment in which this is presented. The majority of NSers, I would hope it is equally proportionate in General as in the game itself, is overwhelmingly American. Around 56% are from the United States, so addressing the majority in a manner and style most pertinent to them seems a wise course. And though I agree the poll is a mite peculiar it is statistically relevant for it's audience by terminology anyway. If his message would tragically confuse over half of NSG is he not cutting his loses by giving into numbers? With the given information it is a logical approach.


http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/nationstates.net Towards the bottom and difficult to miss.

what's funny is that,in Malta the traffic rank is 848 but the percentage of players from Malta is 0,4 percent.

what's funny is that,in Malta the traffic rank is 848 but the percentage of players from Malta is 0,4 percent.

Malta with a comparatively low population and I assume low internet use places NS as one of their most popular sites. If you look at say google, it's one of the most popular in a few countries. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/google.com

what's funny is that,in Malta the traffic rank is 848 but the percentage of players from Malta is 0,4 percent.

that would be my fault :(

Malta with a comparatively low population and I assume low internet use

The internet use is rather high but its one of the countries that keeps out of blasting itself about forums because they are far too busy mugging tourists :tongue:

as a Libertarian

LOL!

I'm apparently a "Strong Democrat" but, even ignoring its obvious US-centrism, I view the test as worthless.

It lacks, as someone has already mentioned, a neutral option for the questions to which your gut answer is a sort of "meh". I know that this is a long-standing tactic of pollsters since it allows them to more easily draw conclusions by forcing people to 'pick a side', but it leads to invalid results.

Even the questions themselves are useless... Surely I can't be the only person who differentiates between museums and artists, can I? Or what about a response to "The separation of church and state has demoralized our society." They use the word "demoralized" as if it is linked to morals, as opposed to morale. (I do not think it means what they think it means :p).

Meh, crappy irrelevant poll... I'm afraid that this thread has less than no chance of settling things "once and for all".

The answer I got from the quiz did not accurately represent my views.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(81% permissive)

You are best described as a: Libertarian

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Oh, look! There are bunch of socialists here! Whooda thunkit??? My marker on the chart is dead center on what looks like the portrait of Thomas Jefferson.

You are best described as a:
Strong Democrat

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

That's funny, I consider myself more centrist by Canadian standards.

Uh, that's cuz yer a Canuck!

Interestingly enough, colonial pidgin is much more apt for the environment in which this is presented. The majority of NSers, I would hope it is equally proportionate in General as in the game itself, is overwhelmingly American. Around 56% are from the United States, so addressing the majority in a manner and style most pertinent to them seems a wise course. And though I agree the poll is a mite peculiar it is statistically relevant for it's audience by terminology anyway. If his message would tragically confuse over half of NSG is he not cutting his loses by giving into numbers? With the given information it is a logical approach.


http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/nationstates.net Towards the bottom and difficult to miss.

What polls on NSG have generally shown in the past is, IIRC, that the ratio of Americans to the rest of the world is about equal, if not slightly in favour of the rest of the world.

Me, here is what I got

You are a

Social Conservative
(28% permissive)


and an...

Economic Conservative
(70% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Republican

I'm happy.

Calls me a capitalist, socially moderate and economically conservative.

If you don't like that test, do the proper one:

http://openpolitics.ca/tiki-page.php?pageName=quiz-home

This test is idiotic, and not only because it assumes one is from the USA and asks stupid questions, like whether I care that USA companies are outsourcing. It's moronic because it calls me both an "economic liberal" and a "socialist". Those two are diametrically opposed. Liberalism favours private ownership and free markets with minimal government intrusion, while socialism favours the direct opposite.

Inane.
Not really, liberalism as a whole is based on the idea of individual liberty. A liberal would want to protect individuals against large private companies just as much as he would want to protect them against the government. Those who see the American usage of the word "liberal" as incorrect are either living in the 19th century or a place where the government, and not private groups, are a greater potential threat to liberties. In the US, the opposite is true.

I am 50% socially permissive, 26% economically permissive. That places me square on Adlai Stevenson's forehead, a boring, American Democrat.

You are a

Social Liberal
(65% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(20% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (56, -113)
modscore: (12, 39)
raw: (1636)

You are a

Social Liberal
(65% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(20% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (56, -113)
modscore: (12, 39)
raw: (1636)

Whoa! Hardly even see you anymore!

I got:

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(56% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(61% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Centrist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (24, 43)
modscore: (37, 34)

Though I suspect I stand on the right edge of that descriptor.

You are a

Social Liberal
(90% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(11% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist
You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I scored as a socialist, which is true depending on how one defines socialist. I am also, however, a libertarian on many issues (just not economic ones).

I felt that it was somewhat missleading, given that some of my answers are ones which might be given for more than one possible reason (or I just wasn't sure). One of the former catagory was the one about jobs shipped overseas. I oppose more because of the motive being exploitation of cheap sweat shop labor than for any nationalist reasons.

Also, some of the poll catagories overlap, which may skew results.

You are a

Social Liberal
(75% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(73% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian

That's not what's happened in my experience, I've in fact encountered many people who say that you actually can't be a liberal if you support free market and minimal government ideals. Although I doubt either of us has enough experience to firmly say either way.

Well.. let us see,

Netherlands: the "liberal" party is the VVD. Republicanlike, in favour of private enterprise and free market.
Next country ?

Well, shock horror, I got, "Socialist", but through most of the quiz I was thinking, "Well, only in this society with the nature of which I disagree..." and, "but if things were they way I'd want, I'd be answering quite differently..." so in the end my results were skewed to some degree or other, and probably a lot more conservative than might have been the case. Ah well.

That's right. I'm tired of hearing about how there is/isn't a left-wing bias on NS. We're taking a little test to show.

This one in fact. (http://www.okcupid.com/politics)

I haven't taken the test yet, but already I see a problem.

OKCupid has a huge US bias. Therefore, even if I am Centrist by Australian standards, I'm going to come out as a leftist of some sort.

But I'll play along, CM. You have won some respect for me for persisting with your mis-spelled user name for so long. That shows strength of character :p

You are a
Social Liberal
(78% permissive)

and an...
Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (105, -119)
modscore: (11, 47)
raw: (1444)

Oh my Dog, that was absolutely horrible.

I think it actually damaged my sense of Right and Wrong. I'm DEMORALIZED!

OKCupid has a huge US bias. Therefore, even if I am Centrist by Australian standards, I'm going to come out as a leftist of some sort.

But of course. But that is one of the reasons US citizens believe this forum has a left wing bias: most non-US posters live in countries that actually HAVE left wing parties, and not just the centrist democrats. From their perspective the USians are quite right when they say there are a lot of lefties.

There needs to be a clear-cut "this is none of the gub'mint's damn bidness" choice for the quiz to even come close to my views.

Ridiculously USA-biased test.

Probably not valid for anyone who isn't American.

Any political internet quiz which has Darth Vader as a representative of "famous people" cannot possibly hope to settle anything once and for all.

Any political internet quiz.....cannot possibly hope to settle anything once and for all.

Grammatically incorrect, but fixed.

Whoa! Hardly even see you anymore!

I come in every now and then to say something that annoys people.

LEFT wing? if anything there seems to be a more general "right" wing leaning. the only thing "left" is that any honesty, any refusal to deceive one's self in favor of ambient arbitrary assumptions, has an assinignly promoted tendency in some quarters to be LABLED as "left".

and no, i'm not getting myself on another spam list by taking some stupid quiz, but if you want the politcal label i wear proudly: i call myself and eco-socialist anarcho-pacifist, for whatever THAT's worth.

and no, that don't have a damd thing to do with anything resembling marxism in any way, it just doesn't involve worshipping little green piece of paper either, nor putting trying to impress anyone ahead of the kind of world we ALL have to live, one that COULD be gratifying for EVERYONE if people didn't buy into the lie that trying to impress each other was more important then even the future survival of the human species.

(the last time i did take one of those surveys, vectored to from here that time too, it put me right on the border line it had between socialist and libertarian, and at almost the furthest point on the line from what THAT one deemed 'the center')

foreigners on questions dealing with America please insert the name of your own country in place of America. That is all.

foreigners on questions dealing with America please insert the name of your own country in place of America. That is all.

and this would be refering to what? arn't americans also forigners to every place not america? and isn't this site based someplace like australlia?

i mean i think jolt is in gb somewhere, but the origeonal ns, isn't that and its author from oz, so where does this question in any way uniquely deal with america? i myself happen to live in, been born in, and have lived nowhere else then u.s. of a. but what the heck does that have to do with this thread, or even this website, or this forum?

as an american I, am a 'forigner', here. inter net: international network. not american network with nonamerican guests, but planet earth computer network, with a large percentage of access from america, yes, but also from europe and asia, each as large if not larger, and the rest of the planet, though perhapse less well represented for economic and political reasons, but in NO way inheirently 'american'. nor does america have anything resembling a devine right to world dictatorship, even on the net.

Apparently I'm in a socialist mood today. Normally on such tests I tend to be much more economically moderate.

Am taking the test now, it asks a lot of weirdly phrased questions in the context but, its easy enough to know what the quiz gets from your answer to them.

You are a

Social Liberal
(68% permissive)

and an...

Economic Moderate
(41% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (68, -32)
modscore: (25, 41)

Wow, I never though of myself as a democrat before :confused:

I've never been likened to a democrat before... No one thinks of me as a democrat....

Oh and in the poll I meant to put the bottom option, but I didn't notice that till it was too late.

I haven't taken the test yet, but already I see a problem.

OKCupid has a huge US bias. Therefore, even if I am Centrist by Australian standards, I'm going to come out as a leftist of some sort.

But I'll play along, CM. You have won some respect for me for persisting with your mis-spelled user name for so long. That shows strength of character :p
Woo! Go misspelled user names! :D

You are a:

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(93% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian

I do think some of the questions were poorly worded. For example, when asked, "A person cannot be truly spiritual without regularly attending church or temple," I'm inclined to agree with that. Cherry-picking religious facts doesn't make any sense to me. However, I also think spirituality is a huge waste of time and no one reasonable would ever have any interest in it (but I don't think my "agreement" conveyed that to the test).

Who is that guy pictured in the upper right quandrant of the Explanation of Results picture?

Anticlockwise from top-left it's George W. Bush, Josef Stalin, and Mohandas Gandhi, but I don't recognise the fourth face.

My marker on the chart is dead center on what looks like the portrait of Thomas Jefferson.
Oh, that's Jefferson?

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(20% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (99, -113)
modscore: (12, 46)


Although, in the myspace quiz on the same topic i scored Anarchist....Ive always considered myself more of a Libertarian-Socialist, lol...

Woo! Go misspelled user names! :D

Hey! He's right! I just noticed that your name is misspelled...

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(83% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian

Duh. I could have told you that.

Hey! He's right! I just noticed that your name is misspelled...
Me too. That slipped right past me.

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

The Politics Test
Your results are in!






Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(68% permissive)


and an...

Economic Moderate
(43% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (68, -25)
modscore: (26, 41)
raw: (2938)

I'd like to point out that nothing got settled once and for all just as New Wallonochia predicted.

I'd like to point out that nothing got settled once and for all just as New Wallonochia predicted.

His prediction was settled once and for all.....

Wait....

Does his prediction occurring disprove his prediction?.....

Now im going in circles, lol...

Congrats Fass, you have the honor of being ignored. Please do not respond to my posts, as I will not see your responses. Thank you.

Best way to deal with him. I put him on my ignore list 3000 posts ago. It's been delightful.

I would like to point out that this quiz isn't entirely applicable to the rest of the world (so some questions are kinda silly). Not all of us are from the US.

At any rate:
You are a

Social Liberal
(80% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


Also, political compass is so much better than this quiz.

Socialist.

Though I must protest this quiz's exclusion of left-wing anarchism.

Odd.

I get Capitalist, when I am more of a Socialist.

WTF?

Odd.

I get Capitalist, when I am more of a Socialist.

WTF?

You were converted during the fall of the USSR.

You were converted during the fall of the USSR.

All I can say is...

The answer I got from the quiz did not accuratly represent my views.

Worst test ever. I need to find a quiz like that one and see if I get the same thing. Anyone know of any quizs like this one?

They totally ripped off politicalcompass.org

Oh, socialist.

I'd like to point out that nothing got settled once and for all just as New Wallonochia predicted.

Surprise levels: 0

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(66% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(60% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.