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Don't know if the date is accurate but according to this, there's one day and 4 hours until activation:
http://www.lhcountdown.com/?p=1

More like large hardon collider, amirite?

:( Enjoy your last day of life before the world gets sucked into a micro black hole, or the world is destroyed in a variety of different possible ways

Science: Destroying the world, so political leaders don't have to

More like large hardon collider, amirite?

You is right.


And incidentally, even if a micro black hole were created (which is highly unlikely) we'd have much more than a day to live, owing to the growth rate of the black hole and the effects of time dilation on the matter around it.

Though I know you were mostly kidding.

You is right.


And incidentally, even if a micro black hole were created (which is highly unlikely) we'd have much more than a day to live, owing to the growth rate of the black hole and the effects of time dilation on the matter around it.

Though I know you were mostly kidding.

On the plus side, world without France! :tongue:

On the plus side, world without France! :tongue:

Or maybe ... France without the world! :eek:

And incidentally, even if a micro black hole were created (which is highly unlikely) we'd have much more than a day to live, owing to the growth rate of the black hole and the effects of time dilation on the matter around it.

Though I know you were mostly kidding.

Well, scientists can only theorise what could happen. If their theories are wrong, there's lots of ways it could be 'bye-bye Earth'. Though I was a little tongue-in-cheek earlier, I'm actually genuniely worried. Maybe if I knew more about the science I'd be less worried, but its seems a bit "we think it'll be ok, but we're not sure exactly what will happen, which is why we're doing it". And that doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence :(

Ach, too much interweb has broken the site.

Anyhoo, IIRC, they're only switching the thing on, warming the baby up. I don't think there's gonna be any major experiments for a while yet.

Well, scientists can only theorise what could happen. If their theories are wrong, there's lots of ways it could be 'bye-bye Earth'. Though I was a little tongue-in-cheek earlier, I'm actually genuniely worried. Maybe if I knew more about the science I'd be less worried, but its seems a bit "we think it'll be ok, but we're not sure exactly what will happen, which is why we're doing it". And that doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence :(

You really shouldn't be. The amount of energy involved in the LHC is either comparable to or less than (can't remember) the amount given off by cosmic rays striking the upper atmosphere from outer space on a daily basis. If none of these cosmic rays have produced a black hole yet, the odds of one being produced in the LHC are minimal.

Not to mention that this is only even a concern if A: Hawking radiation doesn't exist, as the black hole won't then evaporate almost instantaneously, B: The LHC can produce a black hole, which is only a possibility really in the minds of sensationalists, and C: Anyone gives a crap about France. (Ok, and Switzerland and possible northern Italy, but c'mon)

I'm shit scared. I thought they were gonna set it off in May and when the 1st of June came I was so happy, but now they're turning the thing on and then doing real experiments in October.

Wait if it produced a black hole wouldn't the time thingy make us all effectively immortal from our perspective?

Yep...still reading it as Hardon every time. And still cringe every time too.

"I've got a hardon for the Large Hadron Collider!"

Now I just need to make 160,000 t-shirts and I'm set.

Wait if it produced a black hole wouldn't the time thingy make us all effectively immortal from our perspective?

No. Time is subjective so to you, it would still be linear. However, from your perspective, everything outside the effect would proceed at an accelerated pace. Years would go by in minutes. From outside the effect, everything inside would indeed seem to last a very long time, but would be moving at a snail's pace.

But the fun stuff is this: At normal gravity, the difference in gravitational pull between different parts of you is negligible. At extremely higher gravity, it's not so negligible. So your head and feet, ass and crotch are all experiencing significantly differnent gravitational attractions. You'd sort of... shred. And from outside perspective, it'd be nice and slow too. :)

Ach, too much interweb has broken the site.

Anyhoo, IIRC, they're only switching the thing on, warming the baby up. I don't think there's gonna be any major experiments for a while yet.

They aren't really warming it up, considering its currently the coldest place in the universe :p

They aren't really warming it up, considering its currently the coldest place in the universe :p

Except for Ann Coulter's vagina. *nod*

"Iv'e got a Large Hardon C....
Ah bugger, iv'e had a collision"

"THATS not a Black Hole....
Thats n' AssHole!"

"The world without France is like Africa without diphtheria"



...sry i thought this was a "caption T-Shirt" thread

But the fun stuff is this: At normal gravity, the difference in gravitational pull between different parts of you is negligible. At extremely higher gravity, it's not so negligible. So your head and feet, ass and crotch are all experiencing significantly differnent gravitational attractions. You'd sort of... shred. And from outside perspective, it'd be nice and slow too. :)
I've been wondering for years when the FSM crowd will start using spaghettification as one of their buzzwords :p

We're still here... have they done it yet?

Oh well... if I die, i'm going the way I lived. Plotting world domination.

So are they, or not, makin' it rock? I'm getting bored waiting to see it working! :mad:

So are they, or not, makin' it rock? I'm getting bored waiting to see it working! :mad:

If it goes wrong we all die... :eek:

If it goes wrong we all die... :eek:No, we're going to be sodomised by the Devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0).

Fun times \o/

If it goes wrong we all die... :eek:

Yeah, and nuclear blast at Los Alamos was goin' to blow up the whole atmosphere in a chain reaction*. Besides, if it goes wrong, is it of any matter? We're all going to die. There's no reason to concern. Insert nihilistic cynycism at will.

*talking about scientific experiments bringing The End Of The World: Half-Life! (http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/half-life-3-fake-screenshot-big.jpg)

No. Time is subjective so to you, it would still be linear. However, from your perspective, everything outside the effect would proceed at an accelerated pace. Years would go by in minutes. From outside the effect, everything inside would indeed seem to last a very long time, but would be moving at a snail's pace.

But the fun stuff is this: At normal gravity, the difference in gravitational pull between different parts of you is negligible. At extremely higher gravity, it's not so negligible. So your head and feet, ass and crotch are all experiencing significantly differnent gravitational attractions. You'd sort of... shred. And from outside perspective, it'd be nice and slow too. :)

I believe the technical term is "spaghettification". Yes, that's a real word.

No, we're going to be sodomised by the Devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0).

Fun times \o/


Wow. He's been hitting the Mickey Rooney's Crazy Pills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PFZ1bHhx_s) a bit hard. :p

The August 2008 Discover magazine (pg 46) has an interview with Greg Landsberg about the LHC.

(found the link:
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/24-the-extremely-long-odds-against-the-destruction-of-earth)

In the article he states that while microscopic black holes could be created at the LHC, they will be extraordinarily hot and evaporate in fractions of a second. He also states that discovering these is crucial in predicting the existence of other dimensions. Give it a read.

As for my take, screw black holes, I just want to find the Higgs Boson.

They won't be playing with the LHC until Octber.
http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=334

Awww, I wanted to be sucked into a black hole...

:( Enjoy your last day of life before the world gets sucked into a micro black hole, or the world is destroyed in a variety of different possible ways

Science: Destroying the world, so political leaders don't have to

You know, it went off last time and the world is still here.

What I find hilarious is that with recent improvements in laser wakefield accelerators, someone will be able to build a far more powerful accelerator for far less money, using far less power, in a much smaller footprint (the size of a sport stadium overall, instead of kilometers of accelerator tunnel).

Just making "consumed by a strangelet" all that easier.

First pictures are coming in from the experiments...

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3391/oldmg7.jpg

As for the safety issues, I think they were put to bed in the physics community a while ago.

http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3414

http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3381v1

http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.3349

If anyone asks where I got these links from, I'm a shameless thief.

what is that thing?

The end of humanity.

When does the colliding begin, anyway? This thing is all talk, no collision.

When does the colliding begin, anyway? This thing is all talk, no collision.

wikipedia says october 21

And incidentally, even if a micro black hole were created (which is highly unlikely) we'd have much more than a day to live, owing to the growth rate of the black hole and the effects of time dilation on the matter around it.

The growth rate is also a big if.

But let's not forget possible strangelets either! :tongue:

On the plus side, world without France! :tongue:

oi! Glitziness is in France at the moment! :eek2:

*throws rocks at hardon collider*


edit: Tribes, that pic is cool

Anyone wanna riot?

And incidentally, even if a micro black hole were created…

It would probably radiate off all its energy before expanding noticeably.

Anyone wanna riot?

How could anyone not want to?

How could anyone not want to?

I like the way you think.

How could anyone not want to?
I...I think I love you.

Please. You people are making far too big a deal out of this. Nothing's going to happen, it's all perfectly s--- *implodes*