NationStates Jolt Archive


A sign of things to come?

The imperian empire
04-08-2008, 18:03
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7540138.stm

" Sixteen Chinese policemen have been killed in an attack on a border post near Kashgar city in the western region of Xinjiang, state media say.

Two men drove a lorry into a group of jogging policemen before attacking them with explosives and knives, according to the Xinhua news agency. "

So, A sign of things to come? Discuss.
Lackadaisical1
04-08-2008, 18:13
Well, I've been of the opinion that the Olympics is a chance for those groups unhappy with Chinese rule to make some news, and I doubt it will be a chance they can afford to pass up. I would expect some attacks and probably a lot of protests.

If the government comes down hard on protests, maybe more attacks.

This has scared me alot though:

Late last month, a group called the Turkestan Islamic Party said it had blown up buses in Shanghai and Yunnan, killing five people.

But China denied that the explosions were acts of terrorism.

do Chinese buses usually blow up on their own?
The imperian empire
04-08-2008, 18:23
This has scared me alot though:



do Chinese buses usually blow up on their own?

Apparently so. Perhaps they claimed/proved that there was an explosion in the Petrol tank or something?
Adunabar
04-08-2008, 18:37
I hope if the terrorists do carry on they attack military/government bases, but it's not likely.
Hurdegaryp
04-08-2008, 18:42
These days terrorists try to kill as many people as they possibly can, so they tend to target civilians. It wouldn't benefit the world in any way if the PRC became unstable, by the way. At the very least it would influence the world economy in a negative way.
The imperian empire
05-08-2008, 09:56
"Both attackers were captured during the raid near the city of Kashgar, Xinhua state news agency reported."

At least they got em eh.
Barringtonia
05-08-2008, 10:12
...do Chinese buses usually blow up on their own?

A number of explosions on public transport are the result of migrant workers taking explosives with them across the country, these are of poor quality and so sometimes they go off. It's a not too infrequent occurrence.

For some reason, the Chinese government prefers to blame these on a generic 'Mad Zhang' - I've always thought it was merely to extend the best power a regime has over its people, that of making everyone suspicious of everyone else.

It's interesting they choose not to blame it on terrorists - my entirely unsubstantiated suspicion is that it's considered okay where terrorist acts occur in Xinjiang, which for most people is a faraway province, but not in central Han territory such as Shanghai - reasoning being that they should be effectively protecting people from this.
Lacadaemon
05-08-2008, 10:14
You can just take explosives on the Bus in China? That kicks ass!

goddamn american police state.
Barringtonia
05-08-2008, 10:19
You can just take explosives on the Bus in China? That kicks ass!

goddamn american police state.

No, you can't, there's signs everywhere but that doesn't stop people.

The best 'explosives' story was the 'Mad Zhang' who ran into the Reuters office strapped with explosives. He then demanded that Reuters tell the world that Chinese government officials are corrupt.

'Dude, the world already knows'.

Hang on and I'll source this.

Here we go (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2842159.stm)
Lackadaisical1
05-08-2008, 16:17
The best 'explosives' story was the 'Mad Zhang' who ran into the Reuters office strapped with explosives. He then demanded that Reuters tell the world that Chinese government officials are corrupt.

'Dude, the world already knows'.

ahaha.. wow.

It's interesting they choose not to blame it on terrorists - my entirely unsubstantiated suspicion is that it's considered okay where terrorist acts occur in Xinjiang, which for most people is a faraway province, but not in central Han territory such as Shanghai - reasoning being that they should be effectively protecting people from this.

I figured that was why the Chinese didn't want to admit terrorism. Would be a sign of weakness I guess, and probably pretty bad press this close to the games.
Mott Haven
05-08-2008, 21:19
Show me a terrorist caught by Chinese police and I'll show you a guy who wishes he could be one of the fortunate, lucky ones being waterboarded at Guantanamo.

Poor, miserable wretches. No lawyers, no activists, no media for them. I feel sorry for their neighbors in the nearby cells who have to listen to the screams.
Ashmoria
05-08-2008, 22:19
Show me a terrorist caught by Chinese police and I'll show you a guy who wishes he could be one of the fortunate, lucky ones being waterboarded at Guantanamo.

Poor, miserable wretches. No lawyers, no activists, no media for them. I feel sorry for their neighbors in the nearby cells who have to listen to the screams.
at least they dont have to rot in prison for years while working through the appeals process. quick trial, guilty verdict, executed within the week.