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Parents should be allowed call their kids anything? Talula does the hula, disagrees

Bulgislavia
25-07-2008, 10:26
Well this is an issue in New Zealand at the moment about weather New Zealand should be allowed to call thier children what ever they want

Currently Children are not allowed to be named after adolf hitler. have over 100 letters and have a file or rank in the name or anything offensive.

But some parents have called thier children some really rediculous names

A 9 yearold was taken by the courts into custody to find a more suitable name becuase her name was "Talula Does The Hula In Hawaii"

last year it is even said that some one called thier twins "Benson and Hedges, named after the cigurettes. Fat boy was a name of another child. Some other names were. Midnight Chardonnay, Cinderella Beauty Blossom, Spiral Cicada.

So personally I believe Parents should not be allowed to install such embarrasing names on thier children.

Other might argue against this. what do you think. and by the way this is all true parents DID name thier unfortunate children those atrocious names
Cabra West
25-07-2008, 10:39
I don't believe parents should be allowed to call their children just anything, either.
It's not them who will have to live with those silly names, after all. It's their kids. If their child absolutely WANTS to be named something like "Peaches" or "The Artist Formerly Known as PRince", they can get a name change when they're old enough to decide for themselves.

I think it is time to do away with the thought that just cause you produced them, you can do anything you like with them. Children need more rights, and the right not to be called "Donald Duck" should be one of the most basic ones.
Longhaul
25-07-2008, 10:57
I don't believe parents should be allowed to call their children just anything, either.
It's not them who will have to live with those silly names, after all. It's their kids. If their child absolutely WANTS to be named something like "Peaches" or "The Artist Formerly Known as PRince", they can get a name change when they're old enough to decide for themselves.

I think it is time to do away with the thought that just cause you produced them, you can do anything you like with them. Children need more rights, and the right not to be called "Donald Duck" should be one of the most basic ones.
I agree, up to a point. My worry would be just who gets to decide what's a 'silly name', and what isn't.

Oh, and just before anyone else posts it...

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png

:)
Damor
25-07-2008, 11:05
Some countries have lists with allowed names, and anything else is forbidden. That's a bit extreme, though.
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 11:14
How's about this simple solution -

"We wish to name our newborn this"
"Ha no"
"kk we'll pick a proper name :("

As to 'WHO GETS TO DECIDE? BIG BROTHER!', the answer is, of course, whoever's on shift at the registry office at the time.
Nodinia
25-07-2008, 11:30
'Wtf were they on?' is all I can contribute....
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 11:37
'Wtf were they on?' is all I can contribute....
Adrenaline, and possibly high from anti-pain meds.
Orego
25-07-2008, 11:57
Thats all everyone needs. More of the government taking away rights, to make the world a better place or whatever crap they say.
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 12:04
I hope that post was a joke.
Zer0-0ne
25-07-2008, 12:09
The big question is, where do you draw the line between an acceptable and an unacceptable name? My parents had to name my sister in the United States because the guy at registration in Italy refused to allow any non-Catholic names. (Little did my parents know that he was just asking for a bribe.)
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 12:15
Meh call you kids what you ike, if they don't like the name they can always just not use it.
The Free Priesthood
25-07-2008, 12:39
My 2c...

1) Is it an accepted name in any part of the world (do/did at least 3 people in the whole world in all history have that name?) If yes, accept (and ignore next rules).

2) Can the name be pronounced in a normal way (that is, not by saying the names of the characters - ##$%!* is not a name)? If not, refuse.

3) Does the name mean anything in a language the parents can be expected to know? If not, accept.

4) If it does mean something, is that something that is generally considered positive, a noun, and not referring to a group of humans in any way? (You can name your kid after a flower, but you can't name them "volkswagen" or "madagascar" or "dungbeetle" or "jump".)
Delator
25-07-2008, 12:40
Personally, I think kids ought to pick their own names as soon as they are able...

...it would certainly make things more entertaining. : )

EDIT: Ugh...these smilies suck.

There's a good name...."Sucky Smilies"
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 12:41
Meh call you kids what you ike, if they don't like the name they can always just not use it.
But think of the exam certificates!
Andaras
25-07-2008, 12:44
The lumpenproletariat do indeed have a strange and distorted culture.
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 12:46
The lumpenproletariat do indeed have a strange and distorted culture.
:D

Your disdain for the more Kiwitabulous members of the world amuses me.
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 12:48
But think of the exam certificates!

Meh! I said.

They can be called anything that they want to be called really. I'm not sure about other parts of the world but here in the UK youcan legaly call yourself whatever you want. If you choose to adopt a name that is not the one on your birth certificate all you need do is make it know that you are now to be know as 'Boris' for example, that is without going through the rigmarole of getting your name changed by deed-poll.
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 12:49
Oh, fair enough then.
Andaras
25-07-2008, 12:51
:D

Your disdain for the more Kiwitabulous members of the world amuses me.

No, social scum are social scum pretty much wherever you go in the world, Chav, Bogan, whatever.
Rambhutan
25-07-2008, 12:53
Be much easier if we went with a nice number and tattooed a bar code on the back of each babies neck.
Katganistan
25-07-2008, 13:01
Well this is an issue in New Zealand at the moment about weather New Zealand should be allowed to call thier children what ever they want

Currently Children are not allowed to be named after adolf hitler. have over 100 letters and have a file or rank in the name or anything offensive.

But some parents have called thier children some really rediculous names

A 9 yearold was taken by the courts into custody to find a more suitable name becuase her name was "Talula Does The Hula In Hawaii"

last year it is even said that some one called thier twins "Benson and Hedges, named after the cigurettes. Fat boy was a name of another child. Some other names were. Midnight Chardonnay, Cinderella Beauty Blossom, Spiral Cicada.

So personally I believe Parents should not be allowed to install such embarrasing names on thier children.

Other might argue against this. what do you think. and by the way this is all true parents DID name thier unfortunate children those atrocious names

We can go to the extreme and, like France, not allow names that are not biblical or historical in nature.

Then again, would you saddle a kid with Nebuchadnezzar?

Additionally, you can't legislate stupid -- sure, you can force a parent to put something reasonable on a form, but do you actually think someone with the insensitivity and pure assholishness to call their son "fat boy" would magically stop doing it, or would they do like they do with show dogs, and "Arthur John Smith" be simply called "Fatty" by his asshole parents anyway?

I do believe stupid names are akin to child abuse -- Kal-El Coppola Cage is so going to get his ass kicked in school because of his stupid parents.

Personally, I think kids ought to pick their own names as soon as they are able...

...it would certainly make things more entertaining. : )

EDIT: Ugh...these smilies suck.

There's a good name...."Sucky Smilies"


That's actually how US Olympic Skier Picabo Street got her name -- she was called "Little Girl" by her parents till she was two, and her parents were travelling and they needed something to put on her passport. They asked her to choose a name and she chose her favorite game: Peek-a-boo.
South Niflheim
25-07-2008, 13:11
I say parents should be allowed to name their children whatever they like.

That way, besides avoiding embarrassing situations as have happened in some countries *cough*France*cough* where there are "approved" lists of names, it makes it easier to know which parents to keep a closer eye on.

"It's time for our monthly "unofficial" check up on Hemmorhoid Jones today. Jump, can you take care of that?"

OK, despite what a previous poster said, Jump isn't a bad name. There's a difference between unorthodox and bad - though as Moon Unit Zappa could tell you, sometimes they coincide.

And sometimes unorthodox is ultra cool, as Moxy Crimefighter Jillette could attest.
Call to power
25-07-2008, 13:38
I'm in full support of anything that makes this world a more surreal place :salute:
The Goddess Ayanami
25-07-2008, 13:46
I think there should be certain guidelines and rules about names. I mean a child shouldn't be called "Dick" or some other name that could give them issues when they're older. Maybe have like a name database that parents find. Or perhaps we could ask them what idea they want for their kids, like "Gift from God" Well your kid's name is "Jonathan" which means gift from God. Or really have a database of names that are NOT acceptable or something to.
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 13:52
I think there should be certain guidelines and rules about names. I mean a child shouldn't be called "Dick" or some other name that could give them issues when they're older. Maybe have like a name database that parents find. Or perhaps we could ask them what idea they want for their kids, like "Gift from God" Well your kid's name is "Jonathan" which means gift from God. Or really have a database of names that are NOT acceptable or something to.

There's nowt wrong with the name 'Dick', being as it is a shortend form of 'Richard'. I used to work for a 'Dick' we have two childrens TV stars here called 'Dick' and 'Dom' respectfuly.

'Dick' is a widely used name here.
Katganistan
25-07-2008, 13:55
There's nowt wrong with the name 'Dick', being as it is a shortend form of 'Richard'. I used to work for a 'Dick' we have two childrens TV stars here called 'Dick' and 'Dom' respectfuly.

'Dick' is a widely used name here.

Here too, but if I were set on having a kid named Richard I'd probably use the nicknames "Rick" or "Rich" instead.
The Goddess Ayanami
25-07-2008, 14:00
I have a friend named Richard and he got teased a lot about his name somehow meaning "dick". That's just ONE example. I mean what about Fatty? I mean that kind of name could give a child eating disorder stuff...
Lackadaisical1
25-07-2008, 14:08
Here too, but if I were set on having a kid named Richard I'd probably use the nicknames "Rick" or "Rich" instead.

Yeah, my gramps was named Richard, you can imagine how shocked I was when grandma yelled "Dick!" (I was young and didn't realize that Dick=Richard, of course, it still makes no sense..)

Also, I'd say this is something that can't be legislated, I mean you could, but whats the point? People are still going to be assholes, and you might exclude some people from having legitimate names, certainly the names we use now mean something, just not usually something from a language we know. I've heard that names like Autumn, etc. weren't in use until fairly recently (certainly seems that way), at least in the US, however kids arn't usually made fun of for that, and imo its a nice name.
The Goddess Ayanami
25-07-2008, 14:14
Yeah, my gramps was named Richard, you can imagine how shocked I was when grandma yelled "Dick!" (I was young and didn't realize that Dick=Richard, of course, it still makes no sense..)
I "know" that Richard = Dick, but I STILL fail to understand WHY/HOW. Other then "Some asshole decided that Richard = Dick, so now EVERYBODY is doing it".
Katganistan
25-07-2008, 14:18
I "know" that Richard = Dick, but I STILL fail to understand WHY/HOW. Other then "Some asshole decided that Richard = Dick, so now EVERYBODY is doing it".
The same way that someone decided that Meg, Maggy and Peggy were all dimunitives of Margaret, and that Jim was a diminutive of James, and that (someone explain this please) Jack is a diminuitive of John.
New Ziedrich
25-07-2008, 14:20
I once read that some couple somewhere named their kid Vash the Stampede. I am not making this up.
Lackadaisical1
25-07-2008, 14:21
The same way that someone decided that Meg, Maggy and Peggy were all dimunitives of Margaret, and that Jim was a diminutive of James, and that (someone explain this please) Jack is a diminuitive of John.

I guess people are just good at making up random shit they think sounds good *nod*

names have always confused me because I always try to see how one thing relates to another, and it just doesn't come across with any sort of rules. They all sound sort of similar, but its hard to say that they're derived from the parent name in the same way that Jonathan, would be called Jon.


I once read that some couple somewhere named their kid Vash the Stampede. I am not making this up.

well, it could be appropriate for a particularly destructive child... :P
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 14:23
Here too, but if I were set on having a kid named Richard I'd probably use the nicknames "Rick" or "Rich" instead.

I have a brother called Richard, he gets called Richard, Rich, Dick, and as a kid, Dickydoo. He seems fine about it.

Hehe what used to upset him was calling him 'Murry Mint Sniffer' Don't ask, family joke.
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 14:32
I once read that some couple somewhere named their kid Vash the Stampede. I am not making this up.

Hey that's my oldest ones name!
Farflorin
25-07-2008, 14:43
You don't need an abnormal name or even one that sounds silly like "Dick" to have the kids twist it and tease you. It's stupid to say what is and isn't acceptable. I dropped my first name off the face of the earth because it got me teased and strangely, it was considered "normal".

This kid's name at least couldn't be rhymed with "smelly", so this brat has nothing to complain about.
Khadgar
25-07-2008, 14:45
While I know from personal experience it sucks to have a weird name, I can't imagine a register of acceptable names to chose from. Way too authoritarian for my taste. Let them name their kids as they like. Not like it can't be changed.
Katganistan
25-07-2008, 14:46
How about parents who give their kids "cute" names....

Hedda Haar.... <-- my mother had a student by this name.

Shanda Lear....

Justin Case....


I say the kid should have the option of kneecapping their parents after every day they've had to hear stupid remarks about their names.
Khadgar
25-07-2008, 14:58
How about parents who give their kids "cute" names....

Hedda Haar.... <-- my mother had a student by this name.

Shanda Lear....

Justin Case....


I say the kid should have the option of kneecapping their parents after every day they've had to hear stupid remarks about their names.

Or kneecap the bastards making the jokes.
Dinaverg
25-07-2008, 15:34
Just kneecap anyone they come across, really.
Smunkeeville
25-07-2008, 15:36
I think parents should be allowed to name their children whatever they want. If you don't like it, you can change it when you're a grown up. I intend to change my name when I find one that is fitting.
Khadgar
25-07-2008, 15:38
I think parents should be allowed to name their children whatever they want. If you don't like it, you can change it when you're a grown up. I intend to change my name when I find one that is fitting.

As I recall everyone calls you Smunkee don't they?
Smunkeeville
25-07-2008, 15:42
As I recall everyone calls you Smunkee don't they?

Yes, which is quite nice. My legal name is teh suck and has only been causing more problems as of late.

My mother was an idiot. Who would name a child something so horrible?!

I should change my legal name to Smunkee. It's already my alias.

I wonder how often I would have to spell it for people? Oh, well, I already have to spell and respell my name now.
Dinaverg
25-07-2008, 15:44
How hard could Smunkee be to spell? Besides the ee part, I suppose.
Khadgar
25-07-2008, 15:46
I empathize, my given name is Jedidiah. Which exactly no one can spell. Or they spell it Jebidiah. Though no one can spell or pronounce my last name either despite it being spelled exactly as it's said.
Smunkeeville
25-07-2008, 15:55
How hard could Smunkee be to spell? Besides the ee part, I suppose.

No, people don't understand my accent.

"what's your name?"
"you can call me Smunkee"
"Spunky?"
"SMunkee"
"Snucky?"
"S-M-U-N-K-E-E"
"How do you say that?"
"Smunkee"
"SmUnk?"
"no, a short U, it rhymes with monkey"
"oh, your name is monkey?"
"no my name is Smunkee"
"what's your real name?"
"<my real name?>"
"really?"
"yes"
"are you sure?"
"yes"
"how do you spell that?"
"<spells name>"
"is that really your name? what's it short for? is it a nickname?"
"it's my real entire name"
"your parent's actually named you that? just..like that's your name?"
"yes"
"what's that other one again? monkey?"
":$ sure"
Rasselas
25-07-2008, 16:03
I think the standard should be "is your kid going to get their ass kicked for their name?" If the answer is yes, then pick a different name.

and that (someone explain this please) Jack is a diminuitive of John.

Google says: this (http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq8204.html) and this (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/513387/nicknames_how_john_became_jack_and.html?cat=37), dunno how much truth is in them though.

Funny, I have a cousin John (known to everyone since birth as Jack), and I've never thought to look it up before.
Peepelonia
25-07-2008, 16:04
No, people don't understand my accent.

"what's your name?"
"you can call me Smunkee"
"Spunky?"
"SMunkee"
"Snucky?"
"S-M-U-N-K-E-E"
"How do you say that?"
"Smunkee"
"SmUnk?"
"no, a short U, it rhymes with monkey"
"oh, your name is monkey?"
"no my name is Smunkee"
"what's your real name?"
"<my real name?>"
"really?"
"yes"
"are you sure?"
"yes"
"how do you spell that?"
"<spells name>"
"is that really your name? what's it short for? is it a nickname?"
"it's my real entire name"
"your parent's actually named you that? just..like that's your name?"
"yes"
"what's that other one again? monkey?"
":$ sure"

Bwhahah. So monkey it is then!
Cabra West
25-07-2008, 16:10
I think a list of approved names is ridiculous, and way too strict.
Rather, there ought to be guidelines.
Such as, no rude names, no ridiculous names (Muffin, SuperMario, or who knows what else brainless parents will come up with), identifiable as a name (as in not a sentence), more than one letter...

I don't think parents should be allowed to make their stupidity more of an embarassment for their kid than absolutely and totally necessary.
Johnny B Goode
25-07-2008, 16:18
Besides, if you want to name your kid something ridiculous, make it their middle name.
Snafturi
25-07-2008, 16:23
I can't even begin to comprehend why a parent would give a child a name like in the OP.
Tech-gnosis
25-07-2008, 16:25
Yes, which is quite nice. My legal name is teh suck and has only been causing more problems as of late.

My mother was an idiot. Who would name a child something so horrible?!

What is your horrible name, if I may ask?
Smunkeeville
25-07-2008, 16:34
What is your horrible name, if I may ask?

It's of a nature that if you were to know it, you could easily find me on the net. So, you can ask, but I'm not saying.

It's a shortened version of a name for the opposite gender. If that helps your curiosity any.
Poliwanacraca
25-07-2008, 16:41
I do not think it is the place of the government to tell parents how to name their children, and I'm glad they don't have that power in my country, given that I have a weird name and I love it. If a child hates their name, there's nothing to stop them from telling people to call them by a different one.
Gift-of-god
25-07-2008, 16:47
I kinda like the name Spiral Cicada.
Copiosa Scotia
25-07-2008, 16:54
No more misspelled virtues for names. If I never hear of another poor little girl named Chasity, it'll be too soon.
Wowmaui
25-07-2008, 17:01
How's this then, an Arkansas court last year ordered a child's name changed. The Mother had named the child: "Weather'By Dot Com Chanel Fourcast Sheppard"

At trial, this exchange took place:

THE COURT: I simply do not understand why you named
this child — his legal name is Weather'by Dot Com
Chanel Fourcast Sheppard. Now, before you answer
that, Mr. — the plaintiff in this action is a
weatherman for a local television station.

SHEPPARD: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Is that why you named this child the
name that you gave the child?

SHEPPARD: It — it stems from a lot of things.

THE COURT: Okay. Tell me what they are.

SHEPPARD: Weather'by — I've always heard of Weatherby
as a last name and never a first name, so I thought
Weatherby would be — and I'm sure you could spell it
b-e-e or b-e-a or b-y. Anyway, Weatherby.

THE COURT: Where did you get the "Dot Com"?

SHEPPARD: Well, when I worked at NBC, I worked on a
Teleprompter computer.

THE COURT: All right.

SHEPPARD: All right, and so that's where the Dot Com
[came from]. I just thought it was kind of cute, Dot
Com, and then instead of — I really didn't have a
whole lot of names because I had nothing to work
with. I don't know family names. I don't know any
names of the Speir family, and I really had nothing
to work with, and I thought "Chanel"? No, that's
stupid, and I thought "Shanel," I've heard of a black
little girl named Shanel.

THE COURT: Well, where did you get "Fourcast"?

SHEPPARD: Fourcast? Instead of F-o-r-e, like your
future forecast or your weather forecast, F-o-u, as
in my fourth son, my fourth child, Fourcast. It was —

THE COURT: So his name is Fourcast, F-o-u-r-c-a-s-t?

SHEPPARD: Yes.

. . .

THE COURT: All right. Now, do you have some objection
to him being renamed Samuel Charles?

SHEPPARD: Yes.

THE COURT: Why? You think it's better for his name to
be Weather'by Dot Com Chanel —

SHEPPARD: Well, the —

THE COURT: Just a minute for the record.

SHEPPARD: Sorry.

THE COURT: Chanel Fourcast, spelled F-o-u-r-c-a-s-t?
And in response to that question, I want you to think
about what he's going to be — what his life is going
to be like when he enters the first grade and has to
fill out all [the] paperwork where you fill out —
this little kid fills out his last name and his first
name and his middle name, okay? So I just want — if
your answer to that is yes, you think his name is
better today than it would be with Samuel Charles, as
his father would like to name him and why. Go ahead.

SHEPPARD: Yes, I think it's better this way.

THE COURT: The way he is now?

SHEPPARD: Yes. He doesn't have to use "Dot Com." I
mean, as a grown man, he can use whatever he wants.

THE COURT: As a grown man, what is his middle name?
Dot Com Chanel Fourcast?

SHEPPARD: He can use Chanel, he can use the letter
"C."

THE COURT: And when he gives his Birth Certificate —
is it on his birth Certificate as you've stated to
the Court? Does his Birth — does this child's Birth
Certificate read "Weather'by Dot com" —

SHEPPARD: That's how I filled out the paperwork for
his —

THE COURT: — Chanel Fourcast?

SHEPPARD: Yes, and for his Social Security card, I
filled it out as Weather'by F. Sheppard.

THE COURT: All right.

Following the custody hearing, the trial court entered an order
on November 21, 2002, finding that it was in the child's best
interest to award Speir custody. The trial court also found that
it would be in the child's best interest for the child's name to be
changed to Samuel Charles Speir.

The Arkansas Supreme Court found that the trial court had not abused its discretion in determining the name change was in the best interests of the child.
Tech-gnosis
25-07-2008, 17:20
A cousin of mine was named after his father, Charles. Chuck was the nickname his parents gave him when he was young. He hated it and all other Charles diminutives. Now he goes by the name Gus, rhymes with bus. I don't see that as an improvement.

It's of a nature that if you were to know it, you could easily find me on the net. So, you can ask, but I'm not saying.

It's a shortened version of a name for the opposite gender. If that helps your curiosity any.

It helps increase my curiosity with a refusal to give a name combined with a hint. I would start to guess, but I won't since I could guess correctly.
Imota
25-07-2008, 17:20
Actually, now that I think about it, "Ministry of Silly Names" does sound pretty funny, although now that it's been posted on the internet, it's only a matter of time before some idiot actually names their child this.
Ferrous Oxide
25-07-2008, 17:22
I built the little fuckers, I get to name them.
Smunkeeville
25-07-2008, 17:25
A cousin of mine was named after his father, Charles. Chuck was the nickname his parents gave him when he was young. He hated it and all other Charles diminutives. Now he goes by the name Gus, rhymes with bus. I don't see that as an improvement.



It helps increase my curiosity with a refusal to give a name combined with a hint. I would start to guess, but I won't since I could guess correctly.

You can guess via TG, but I probably won't tell you if you are right.
Tech-gnosis
25-07-2008, 17:26
You can guess via TG, but I probably won't tell you if you are right.

That takes the fun out of it. :(
Ferrous Oxide
25-07-2008, 17:26
Is it Guy?
Sparkelle
25-07-2008, 17:35
I kinda like the name Spiral Cicada.
I like that name too and I see nothing wrong with Cinderella Beauty Blossom either. In China and Japan all people's names are common words. and it's not like normal western names don't mean weird things in hebrew and greek. Like Philip means "friend of the horses" and Samual means "listener".
Salothczaar
25-07-2008, 17:42
Midnight Chardonnay is a nice name i think, as is Cinderella Beauty Blossom. Spiral Cicada i wouldnt go for though
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 18:03
Midnight Chardonnay is a nice name i think, as is Cinderella Beauty Blossom. Spiral Cicada i wouldnt go for though
Those are bogan names.
Hydesland
25-07-2008, 18:04
I built the little fuckers, I get to name them.

You're always so angry. Is NSG where you vent your anger?
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 18:06
You're always so angry. Is NSG where you vent your anger?
If he's an Aussie, it's very early in the morning at this point. Maybe he's an insomniac?
The Alma Mater
25-07-2008, 18:09
I say parents should be allowed to name their children whatever they like.

Indeed. Imagine how much time it would save if one would just call their daughter "I will fellate you for a dollar" ;) ?
RhynoD
25-07-2008, 18:11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561519
Maraque
25-07-2008, 18:21
My biological parents named me Sven. >_<

So as soon as I could, I changed it to what my parents (not biological) called me for the last 20 years: Stephen.

Sven always gave me an image of a hot blond Scandinavian. I'm neither blond, nor Scandinavian (or White for that matter...) so it didn't fit. LOL.
Ifreann
25-07-2008, 19:02
You gotta love the other names that the court hasn't had changed. 'Number 16 Bus Terminal' and 'Violence'.

You can guess via TG, but I probably won't tell you if you are right.

I know :D *feels special*
Neesika
25-07-2008, 21:02
In "Green Grass, Running Water", Thomas King describes the naming of a Blackfoot girl after a sign in the hospital where she was born. I think the name "South Wing" is gorgeously appropriate, and I'd hate for the government to be able to veto something like that.
Wowmaui
25-07-2008, 21:16
So a boy approaches the chief of a Native American Tribe and says:

"Chief, as the leader of our tribe, you have the privilege of naming all the new babies that are born. How do you choose the names you give?"

"Well, I look at the natural world around me at the time of the babies birth and draw inspiration from what I see, if I see a deer, I might choose the name 'Running Deer' for the child. If the child is born at night I might use the name 'Glowing Moon' and so forth, but tell me, Two Dogs Fucking, why do you ask?"
New Manvir
25-07-2008, 21:54
why not just replace all names with a serial number and barcode?
Soyut
25-07-2008, 22:10
I think we should name each other based on unique things that we do or look like. Sort of like what the Native Americans used to do.

Some cool Native American Names:

Crazy Horse
Wind in his hair
Stays at home
Sitting Bull
Digging bear
Falling rain
Chunkylover_55
25-07-2008, 22:15
I think it would probably be best if teachers determined what were crazy names (assuming that the country is industrialized and has a high rate of education). This way, most kids with idiotic names would be found, and the teacher would be able to report it. And this would be arbitrary I admit, but I doubt that teachers would aprove of the name "Talula does the hula." And even if the first teacher were to overlook it, the second or third probably wouldn't.
Ryadn
26-07-2008, 13:30
How hard could Smunkee be to spell? Besides the ee part, I suppose.

My name is five letters and rhymes with a normal, well-known name, but people mispronounce it and misspell it all the time. I've heard maybe 7 versions of a two-syllable name. >_<
Agenda07
26-07-2008, 16:59
I say you let the registrar make the decision, with the proviso that they should only refuse names which are seriously oddball and will cause distress for the child. The parents would then have the option of appealing to a magistrates and crown court if they vehemently disagreed with the decision.
New Drakonia
26-07-2008, 17:07
Names are a bourgeois luxury and should be done away with.
Ashmoria
26-07-2008, 17:10
Names are a bourgeois luxury and should be done away with.

YEAH!

we should all be content with the numbers issued to us by the state!
New Drakonia
26-07-2008, 17:21
YEAH!

we should all be content with the numbers issued to us by the state!

A simple "comrade" will do.
Ifreann
26-07-2008, 17:30
A simple "comrade" will do.

Being able to distinguish yourself from other workers is counter-revolutionary.
Partybus
27-07-2008, 01:28
I don't believe parents should be allowed to call their children just anything, either.
It's not them who will have to live with those silly names, after all. It's their kids. If their child absolutely WANTS to be named something like "Peaches" or "The Artist Formerly Known as PRince", they can get a name change when they're old enough to decide for themselves.

I think it is time to do away with the thought that just cause you produced them, you can do anything you like with them. Children need more rights, and the right not to be called "Donald Duck" should be one of the most basic ones.

I agree with you, but lest you forget (has someone already addressed this? If so sorry) Donald "Duck" Dunn (Blues Brothers bassist/session player) Actually never mind, that was a poor example due to the quotes...It's just a nic...and I don't know if his parents even coined it, maybe he had gynormous feet when he was a duckling?
New Drakonia
27-07-2008, 02:38
Being able to distinguish yourself from other workers is counter-revolutionary.

Indeed. Individualism on any level is a tool used by the capitalistic bourgeois to deprive the workers of the means of production and rendering them slaves to the system.
SaintB
27-07-2008, 13:28
No, people don't understand my accent.

"what's your name?"
"you can call me Smunkee"
"Spunky?"
"SMunkee"
"Snucky?"
"S-M-U-N-K-E-E"
"How do you say that?"
"Smunkee"
"SmUnk?"
"no, a short U, it rhymes with monkey"
"oh, your name is monkey?"
"no my name is Smunkee"
"what's your real name?"
"<my real name?>"
"really?"
"yes"
"are you sure?"
"yes"
"how do you spell that?"
"<spells name>"
"is that really your name? what's it short for? is it a nickname?"
"it's my real entire name"
"your parent's actually named you that? just..like that's your name?"
"yes"
"what's that other one again? monkey?"
":$ sure"

My name is Grant... I have people that insist on calling me Brent after knowing me for years and you'd be surprised how many people can't spell it.


I think some names are simply another form of child abuse. The Parents don't have to live with that rediculous name for the rest of thier lives but expect thier child to live with it for at least the next eighteen years of thier life. If I had been named something stupid like "Snoopy" or "Weather'by etc." I'd have killed my parents.
Vetalia
27-07-2008, 18:31
My name is Yon Yonson, I come from Wisconsin, I work in a lumber mill there...
Smunkeeville
27-07-2008, 18:51
My name is Grant... I have people that insist on calling me Brent after knowing me for years and you'd be surprised how many people can't spell it.


I think some names are simply another form of child abuse. The Parents don't have to live with that rediculous name for the rest of thier lives but expect thier child to live with it for at least the next eighteen years of thier life. If I had been named something stupid like "Snoopy" or "Weather'by etc." I'd have killed my parents.


Lexie Coop: Americus? What kind of a name is Americus?
Novalee Nation: I wanted her to have a strong name.
Lexie Coop: Well, I guess I shouldn't talk. I named my kids after snack foods: Brownie, Praline, Cherry and Baby Ruth
Sel Appa
27-07-2008, 18:56
No, I hate when parents give their kids idiotic names like Nevaeh or whatever it is. Family friends of ours named their one of their kids April May Juniper. Doth not anyone think of these poor kids' lives in high school or middle school?
Kirav
27-07-2008, 19:23
Well, I think outlawing a name in particular is bad. There've got to be dozens of Adolf Hitlers running around in Germany. Why? Because it's just a name.

I don't see why a character limit needed to be imposed either. I intend to give my children multiple middle names, some to include diacritic marks like my own, and possibly allow them to bear my surname as well as the name of our ancestral Scottish clan.

Yes, some names are idiotic, but I think we've got to take a more common-law approach as to which indeed are.
Agolthia
28-07-2008, 00:07
While I agree in priniciple, this could impede my wish to use organic chemical as middle names for my children. This is obviously of most importance...
Andaras
28-07-2008, 00:08
Names are a bourgeois luxury and should be done away with.
Am I to believe this is some kinda crack at me?
Ardchoille
28-07-2008, 00:23
Am I to believe this is some kinda crack at me?

If it is, it looks to me like chi-acking, joking, joshing, a friendly dig; take it as such.
Saint Jade IV
28-07-2008, 01:01
Some parents are stupid. Maybe this should be a way to determine the suitability of people to be parents.

On a side note, what I really hate are the people who have to change the spelling of traditional names to make them unique.

IE: Kailib instead of Caleb etc etc.
Bottle
28-07-2008, 12:52
I'm a bit sensitive about this subject, because I have a "weird" name.

It's nowhere near as crazy as the ones in the OP, but my first name is definitely unusual. I also have a hyphenated last name (Dadsname-Momsname). There are lots of people who seem to think it's WRONG WRONG WRONG for parents to give their kids names like mine. I've had people ask me how my parents could "do that to me," giving me a hyphenated last name. Yeesh.

Personally, I think if we're going to give parents the power to make life-and-death medical decisions for their kids, then we also should trust them to name their kids.

Of course, my Dad wanted to use the naming system from A Thousand Clowns: until age 12, the kid gets to pick their name and change it as often as they want. If the kid wants to be "Frankenstein Bubblegum," then that's the name you use. At 12, they have to decide what name they're keeping, and stick with it.
Katganistan
28-07-2008, 12:58
A last name of dadsname-momsname makes sense, especially in this day and age when women keep their maiden names for professional reasons and divorce is so commonplace.
The Alma Mater
28-07-2008, 12:59
A last name of dadsname-momsname makes sense, especially in this day and age when women keep their maiden names for professional reasons and divorce is so commonplace.

Indeed. It also makes the "kid can pick his first name" system slightly more feasible.
Of course, we could just all switch to numbers.
Tmutarakhan
28-07-2008, 21:23
I agree with you, but lest you forget (has someone already addressed this? If so sorry) Donald "Duck" Dunn (Blues Brothers bassist/session player) Actually never mind, that was a poor example due to the quotes...It's just a nic...and I don't know if his parents even coined it, maybe he had gynormous feet when he was a duckling?
My dad knew a Donald Duck. That was his legal name: but he was born before the cartoon, so it wasn't as if his parents did it on purpose.

A friend of mine worked an art fair drawing caricatures on the sidewalk. He was drawing a little girl and asked her name and she said, "Latrina." He had to keep a straight face.
Skalvia
28-07-2008, 22:23
While it is true that some parents will name their kids shit...you cant just go around telling people what they can and cant name their kids, its just not right, lol...not to mention damn impossible to enforce...And believe me ive read some dumb shit, you havent spent 30 minutes trying to pronounce "sharbuniqua" or some shit like that, lol...