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Ok, so I admit, I love cell phones, I have a LG Envy so that I can txt better. I carry my cell phone with me everywhere I go. It allows me to keep in touch with my family and friends. However, the one thing that irks me about cell phones, is when you are talking to someone, or entertaining someone with dinner or Hell even in the movies theater, that person always has to answer.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.

This happens with several other people I know to. I talk to them, or watching a movie with them, and they're talking or txting on their phones. Hell, even when I go to the movies there are idiots who have to answer their phones in the middle of the movies.

Whatever happened to common courtesy, am I the only one who finds this annoying?

So, what are other examples of people not exercising common courtesy when they should be?

Ok, so I admit, I love cell phones, I have a LG Envy so that I can txt better. I carry my cell phone with me everywhere I go. It allows me to keep in touch with my family and friends. However, the one thing that irks me about cell phones, is when you are talking to someone, or entertaining someone with dinner or Hell even in the movies theater, that person always has to answer.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.

This happens with several other people I know to. I talk to them, or watching a movie with them, and they're talking or txting on their phones. Hell, even when I go to the movies there are idiots who have to answer their phones in the middle of the movies.

Whatever happened to common courtesy, am I the only one who finds this annoying?

So, what are other examples of people not exercising common courtesy when they should be?

What if his girlfriend was calling to tell him his father had been shot five times while at the grocery store? Can that still wait till he gets home?

What if his girlfriend was calling to tell him his father had been shot five times while at the grocery store? Can that still wait till he gets home?

Is he his father's surgeon?

What if his girlfriend was calling to tell him his father had been shot five times while at the grocery store? Can that still wait till he gets home?

Why would anyone shoot a dead guy?

Why would anyone shoot a dead guy?

He was walking around biting people and eating their brains.

He was walking around biting people and eating their brains.

lol, true.

My point still stands though. IMHO, answering cell phone when you're susspose to give someone else your attention is just rude

answering your phone at work is a no-no in my book and most works...

however what if its like his new girlfriend and hes gone all puppy dog middle school love? (you could also do this whilst your flying for the funny)

No one holds doors for other people anymore, that seems to be a New Yorker thing here in the Poconos.

Ok, so I admit, I love cell phones, I have a LG Envy so that I can txt better. I carry my cell phone with me everywhere I go. It allows me to keep in touch with my family and friends. However, the one thing that irks me about cell phones, is when you are talking to someone, or entertaining someone with dinner or Hell even in the movies theater, that person always has to answer.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.

This happens with several other people I know to. I talk to them, or watching a movie with them, and they're talking or txting on their phones. Hell, even when I go to the movies there are idiots who have to answer their phones in the middle of the movies.

Whatever happened to common courtesy, am I the only one who finds this annoying?

So, what are other examples of people not exercising common courtesy when they should be?

common courtesy was made extinct... just after Common Sense.

however, there was one story my friend told me. a cell phone went off in the theatre. as people groaned at the interruption, the ones nearest to him heard him say "ok, prep him for the OR and I'll be right there." so sometimes we really can't know. your instructor may be waiting on news that was important to him... someone in the hospital? expecting a child? who knows.

one thing you can do is take it that you've shown him you know your thing so he can be distracted from time to time.

or the distraction can be something he's checking you on. how well you do with an annoying passenger...

common courtesy was made extinct... just after Common Sense.

however, there was one story my friend told me. a cell phone went off in the theatre. as people groaned at the interruption, the ones nearest to him heard him say "ok, prep him for the OR and I'll be right there." so sometimes we really can't know. your instructor may be waiting on news that was important to him... someone in the hospital? expecting a child? who knows.

one thing you can do is take it that you've shown him you know your thing so he can be distracted from time to time.

or the distraction can be something he's checking you on. how well you do with an annoying passenger...

Well if we're in the aircraft, it's not so much a problem, because I'm busy trying to fly, which involves me doing at least five things at the same time, so I'm not paying attention to my passenger.

So yea.

No one holds doors for other people anymore, that seems to be a New Yorker thing here in the Poconos.

I was raised to hold doors open for women (especially your relatives or gf or wife) and for the elderly.

Now it's only for the elderly OR my wife. Too many women were complete bitches about me holding a door. Now they all get to open it themselves.

I got a lot of feminist lectures on the spot in the 1980s that I will never forget.

Now, I get dirty looks when I let the doors slam in their faces.

Same for giving up a seat on the Metro. They can fucking stand.

What if his girlfriend was calling to tell him his father had been shot five times while at the grocery store? Can that still wait till he gets home?

He ain't gonna get any deader in an hour.

At least a dozen times I've been at my aunt's house and she's answered her cell and talked 30 minutes. If I have a guest and recieve a call I make it short, telling the caller I have a guest. I'm going to stuff her cellll phone up her ass one of these days.

He ain't gonna get any deader in an hour.

Yeah, but the smell...

How to install common courtesy in a modern society?

Simply use a virus that destroys all programming that induces rudeness.

*Offers a shiny new chicken to however knows what type of virus I am making reference to.*

I was raised to hold doors open for women (especially your relatives or gf or wife) and for the elderly.

Now it's only for the elderly OR my wife. Too many women were complete bitches about me holding a door. Now they all get to open it themselves.

I got a lot of feminist lectures on the spot in the 1980s that I will never forget.

Now, I get dirty looks when I let the doors slam in their faces.

Same for giving up a seat on the Metro. They can fucking stand.

I hold the door for anyone, regardless of whether they appreciate it or not.

I hold the door for anyone, regardless of whether they appreciate it or not.

It's not the appreciation I want. I just don't want another feminist lecture about how men who hold doors are reactionary bags of shit.

I just don't want another feminist lecture about how men who hold doors are reactionary bags of shit.

Lol, dunno why, but that's just funny. I hold doors all the time, but one of my biggest pet peeves is when people know you're there, they see you, but they just let the door go. It's strange.

I was raised to hold doors open for women (especially your relatives or gf or wife) and for the elderly.

Now it's only for the elderly OR my wife. Too many women were complete bitches about me holding a door. Now they all get to open it themselves.

I got a lot of feminist lectures on the spot in the 1980s that I will never forget.

Now, I get dirty looks when I let the doors slam in their faces.

Same for giving up a seat on the Metro. They can fucking stand.

I hold the door & offer the seat, anyway. It's good manners, just like using "sir" or "ma'am" when adressing non-intimate others.

After your good manners have been rebuffed, however; I believe that the offender is fair game.

re-
"Pardon me, Ma'am, but..."
"DON'T MA'AM ME, I'M NOT A MA'AM!!!"
"Oh, well, my apologies. Pardon me, you rude, stupid bitch, but..." :)

What if his girlfriend was calling to tell him his father had been shot five times while at the grocery store? Can that still wait till he gets home?

Rule of thumb for me: they try once, and I'm busy, I don't answer. They try again, I still don't answer but I imagine that it's important and call them back when I get the chance, which means leaving the theatre or asking any company I'm with to please excuse me if I know it won't inconvenience them. Third time, I immediately leave or ask pardon and answer it because it's probably that important, and if it's not, I chew them out for calling me three damn times when I'm obviously busy.

What bothers me is people that keep bluetooth headsets in their ear when they're not driving or otherwise doing something that would necessitate using a bluetooth. Dude, you're walking around the mall. Just use your damn phone.

I hate phones. They freak me out.

What bothers me is people that keep bluetooth headsets in their ear when they're not driving or otherwise doing something that would necessitate using a bluetooth. Dude, you're walking around the mall. Just use your damn phone.

The only other group that walks around conversing in this manner is usually seen pushing around stolen shopping carts full of garbage, and sleeping under bridge abutments, think about that the next time you decide to waltz around Wal-Mart with your obtuse-tooth on.

answering your phone at work is a no-no in my book and most works...

What if it is a work call?

And would you have a problem if someone answered their landline work phone?

The only other group that walks around conversing in this manner is usually seen pushing around stolen shopping carts full of garbage, and sleeping under bridge abutments, think about that the next time you decide to waltz around Wal-Mart with your obtuse-tooth on.

It's not even that, it just looks pretentious. Like, check out my expensive bluetooth. I'm so awesome that I can talk on the phone without actually touching my phone.

Quite simply...common courtesy became uncommon, it did not match its name and thus, in a great puff of logic, it ceased to exist entirely.

I desire an LG solution to this problem. *Nod*

Quite simply...common courtesy became uncommon, it did not match its name and thus, in a great puff of logic, it ceased to exist entirely.

*disappears in a puff of logic*

It's not the appreciation I want. I just don't want another feminist lecture about how men who hold doors are reactionary bags of shit.

*sigh*

So don't listen. Let the door go and walk away. You've posted this before, Hotwife, and you're a good man, but come on. Be the bigger person and stride off. The person you were trying to be polite to rebuffed you with jackassery -- time to keep moving. That way, if they try to continue their harangue, they look like the asshole.

I was raised to hold doors open for women (especially your relatives or gf or wife) and for the elderly.

Now it's only for the elderly OR my wife. Too many women were complete bitches about me holding a door. Now they all get to open it themselves.

I got a lot of feminist lectures on the spot in the 1980s that I will never forget.

Now, I get dirty looks when I let the doors slam in their faces.

Same for giving up a seat on the Metro. They can fucking stand.
Now, see, this is interesting, because I've been doing this for a long time too, and I have NEVER gotten that reaction, not even from people I know are serious feminists.

I call bullshit.

Now, see, this is interesting, because I've been doing this for a long time too, and I have NEVER gotten that reaction, not even from people I know are serious feminists.

I call bullshit.

Neither have I, not once not ever. There was actually an interesting skit by some comedian where he did complain about those who hold the door open longer than necessary, when you were fairly far away, so you ran a little to save them from the imposition of waiting for you to get there - he was like 'fuck that, I walk a little slower, it's like they're holding the door for a dog, here Fido, come inside...'

I also have the problem with lifts, where there's a fairly large anterior in our office block, you hold the lift open for someone and then someone else walks through the door and after a couple of those I'm like, 'Fuck it, I'm closing and going up or I'll be here all day'.

*sigh*

So don't listen. Let the door go and walk away. You've posted this before, Willy, and you're a good man, but come on. Be the bigger person and stride off. The person you were trying to be polite to rebuffed you with jackassery -- time to keep moving. That way, if they try to continue their harangue, they look like the asshole.

Umm, that's HotWife, not me.

Neither have I, not once not ever. There was actually an interesting skit by some comedian where he did complain about those who hold the door open longer than necessary, when you were fairly far away, so you ran a little to save them from the imposition of waiting for you to get there - he was like 'fuck that, I walk a little slower, it's like they're holding the door for a dog, here Fido, come inside...'

I also have the problem with lifts, where there's a fairly large anterior in our office block, you hold the lift open for someone and then someone else walks through the door and after a couple of those I'm like, 'Fuck it, I'm closing and going up or I'll be here all day'.

same here about holding doors open for people.


Lifts however...

why can't people wanting in wait till people inside come out. is it so hard to stand back and let those people out before you barrell your way in?

and when you come in and push the button on your floor, MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE LIFT! com'on folks, don't hold a convention 2 feet from the doors! move back. If you don't want to be in the back of the lift, then you shouldn't have shoved your way to be first ON THE FUCKING LIFT in the first fucking place.

and when exiting the lift, do NOT stand just past the door and wonder if you're on the right floor or not. PAY ATTENTION to where the lift stops. it's a short trip in only two directions, if you cannot remember which floor to exit on, then either wait in the lift or leave the lift, clear the doorway, move to an area away from the lifts and then stop along the wall and figure out where you're going.

:soap:

same here about holding doors open for people.


Lifts however...

why can't people wanting in wait till people inside come out. is it so hard to stand back and let those people out before you barrell your way in?

Agreed, same on the subway/underground.

and when you come in and push the button on your floor, MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE LIFT! com'on folks, don't hold a convention 2 feet from the doors! move back. If you don't want to be in the back of the lift, then you shouldn't have shoved your way to be first ON THE FUCKING LIFT in the first fucking place.

Wow, yes, this totally bugs me, especially when it means you can't press your own floor because they've pressed theirs and then they just stand there in front of it.

and when exiting the lift, do NOT stand just past the door and wonder if you're on the right floor or not. PAY ATTENTION to where the lift stops. it's a short trip in only two directions, if you cannot remember which floor to exit on, then either wait in the lift or leave the lift, clear the doorway, move to an area away from the lifts and then stop along the wall and figure out where you're going.

Not so much, possibly I just don't notice :)

Not so much, possibly I just don't notice :)
oh, just wait till you have the lift doors close on you while some person is standing a foot infront of the door (and thus blocking you from getting on) and they're looking around wondering "is this my floor?" :soap:

yes, I've had that happen to me too many times. and when you ask them to move, they'er like "huh? what? I wonder if this is my floor?" *thunk* [as the doors close] "oh, did the doors close? sorry."

:headbang:

Umm, that's HotWife, not me.

Holy Stinking Shitballs.

Fixed.

Massive apologies.

Agreed, same on the subway/underground.



Wow, yes, this totally bugs me, especially when it means you can't press your own floor because they've pressed theirs and then they just stand there in front of it.



Not so much, possibly I just don't notice :)

Yes I always tell them to press my own floor.

There is also the question of walking on footpaths or sidewalks for the Yanks here, walk on the right side please and I mean right in regards to which country you are in America and Europe walk on the right side Britain and Australia the left, don’t be going all over the place so I have no idea where you will be when we met.

And escalators please don’t stand in the middle or when more than one stand side by side, not everyone has time to stand on those things all day, I am in a hurry so do the right thing and stand on the left of the escalator (or the right in the case of the Yanks)

oh, just wait till you have the lift doors close on you while some person is standing a foot infront of the door (and thus blocking you from getting on) and they're looking around wondering "is this my floor?" :soap:

yes, I've had that happen to me too many times. and when you ask them to move, they'er like "huh? what? I wonder if this is my floor?" *thunk* [as the doors close] "oh, did the doors close? sorry."

:headbang:

Got you, ours is the only office on our floor so I don't have this issue but yes, I've experienced this before.

Yes I always tell them to press my own floor.

There is also the question of walking on footpaths or sidewalks for the Yanks here, walk on the right side please and I mean right in regards to which country you are in America and Europe walk on the right side Britain and Australia the left, don’t be going all over the place so I have no idea where you will be when we met.

And escalators please don’t stand in the middle or when more than one stand side by side, not everyone has time to stand on those things all day, I am in a hurry so do the right thing and stand on the left of the escalator (or the right in the case of the Yanks)
oh man... and people who walk abrest and at 1/2 speed so not only do they take up the entire walkway, but force everyone behind them to walk sllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwlllllyyyyy.

and God help you if they meet other people and stop and have a conversation right in the middle of the hallway!

Got you, ours is the only office on our floor so I don't have this issue but yes, I've experienced this before.
... I've seen it happen in such locations as well. one office taking up the whole floor... yet some idiot steps halfway out wondering "is this where I'm supposed to go?"

Whatever happened to common courtesy?

I left it at your mom's house dickhead!

i Left It At Your Mom's House Dickhead!

Lmao!!!

oh man... and people who walk abrest and at 1/2 speed so not only do they take up the entire walkway, but force everyone behind them to walk sllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwlllllyyyyy.

and God help you if they meet other people and stop and have a conversation right in the middle of the hallway!

This is pretty easy to handle. I loudly say "EXCUSE ME" and push my way between them. After that happens to them a time or two they usually get the hint. However, if they are elderly or disabled and one is assisting the other, I politely ask them to excuse me as I pass on the left.

What is worse are the twits who walk abreast *towards* you on a sidewalk, trail, or hallway, and refuse to move over or walk single file. I've gotten to the point where I walk straight at them as if I don't see them and force them to go around me.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.


Whenever this happens to you, shit your pants, loudly and expressively.

Then, smooth your shirt and straighten your hair and say "Oh sorry, do go on".

Yes I always tell them to press my own floor.

There is also the question of walking on footpaths or sidewalks for the Yanks here, walk on the right side please and I mean right in regards to which country you are in America and Europe walk on the right side Britain and Australia the left, don’t be going all over the place so I have no idea where you will be when we met.

And escalators please don’t stand in the middle or when more than one stand side by side, not everyone has time to stand on those things all day, I am in a hurry so do the right thing and stand on the left of the escalator (or the right in the case of the Yanks)

Man, I never rode escalators or elevators until 3 years ago when I moved to the city. So forgive me for not knowing the unwritten rules.

Man, I never rode escalators or elevators until 3 years ago when I moved to the city. So forgive me for not knowing the unwritten rules.*Threws diamonds at at.*

*Yells*

Got of my way you jerk, I have an important meeting on world domination in THREE minutes!

Man, I never rode escalators or elevators until 3 years ago when I moved to the city. So forgive me for not knowing the unwritten rules.
add to that some escalators are soo narrow you can't help but stand in the middle.

and we are talking narrow escalators, not wide asses.

Ok, so I admit, I love cell phones, I have a LG Envy so that I can txt better. I carry my cell phone with me everywhere I go. It allows me to keep in touch with my family and friends. However, the one thing that irks me about cell phones, is when you are talking to someone, or entertaining someone with dinner or Hell even in the movies theater, that person always has to answer.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.

This happens with several other people I know to. I talk to them, or watching a movie with them, and they're talking or txting on their phones. Hell, even when I go to the movies there are idiots who have to answer their phones in the middle of the movies.

Whatever happened to common courtesy, am I the only one who finds this annoying?

So, what are other examples of people not exercising common courtesy when they should be?

A) Courtesy is a function of culture. Modern western societies don't really have much of a cohesive culture these days. We've got a common environment that gives us a common reference point, which feels like a culture, but there aren't many clear cut rules for it. That's why we've got no real dining etiquette. Why people show up to black tie weddings in flannel shirts and jeans. Why the speech of rural Louisiana is considered English. To impose these rules is considered arrogant and imposing. So we don't.

B) Cell phones are a relatively new technology. While they've existed since the 80's, they've really only become a social force in the last few years. It took a while for society to adjust to the original telephone. It was thought that it would destroy the family because people would not be stuck talking to the people in their own house, they could speak to whomever they chose. Families adjusted. Culture will adjust to this too.

Whenever I'm with people in a social context and they answer their cellphones and don't say "I'll call you back" within the first 45 seconds, I just pull out a book and start reading. And I keep reading when they hang up. For the check ride, time the conversations and add that time to whatever he's supposed to be giving you, making frequent references to how much time is left in the hopes that he'll notice that the countdown doesn't keep going while he's on the phone.

Next time you might even want to bring a kitchen timer and keep stopping it when he answers the phone.

It's not the appreciation I want. I just don't want another feminist lecture about how men who hold doors are reactionary bags of shit.

Has this ever happened? Ever? To anyone?

The only nod to feminism I've ever gotten for holding a door was that she held the next door for me.

If this happens again just gently explain that politeness usually demands that the first person to get their hand on a door that is pulled open holds it for the next person and that it has nothing to do with gender roles. Then offer her some Midol.

The only other group that walks around conversing in this manner is usually seen pushing around stolen shopping carts full of garbage, and sleeping under bridge abutments, think about that the next time you decide to waltz around Wal-Mart with your obtuse-tooth on.

Well see, some people have decided I do the same, and thats because, quite frankly, I do... except that I have a very good reason for it. See, I have a stereo bluetooth headset, which I use to listen to music. I turned my phone into my iPod, for convenience's sake. As such, when someone calls me, I have to turn off the headphones, wait for the phone to realise there is no headset connected, then ask me if I want to take the call manually. Which I would much prefer to do. But by this stage, people have often hung up. It's just easier to take the call on my headset. Not to mention the hassle of re-connecting it all after my 20 second call is finished.

Man, I never rode escalators or elevators until 3 years ago when I moved to the city. So forgive me for not knowing the unwritten rules.

I am sure it wont take long to learn,

add to that some escalators are soo narrow you can't help but stand in the middle.

and we are talking narrow escalators, not wide asses.

Yes escalators where there is only room for one at a time is different to wide escalators that our at shopping centres which can take two or three people wide.

oh man... and people who walk abrest and at 1/2 speed so not only do they take up the entire walkway, but force everyone behind them to walk sllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwlllllyyyyy.

and God help you if they meet other people and stop and have a conversation right in the middle of the hallway!

:) Yeah and not to mention those people who walk down supermarket aisles and then stop leaving their trolley spanning the aisle.

Ok, so I admit, I love cell phones, I have a LG Envy so that I can txt better. I carry my cell phone with me everywhere I go. It allows me to keep in touch with my family and friends. However, the one thing that irks me about cell phones, is when you are talking to someone, or entertaining someone with dinner or Hell even in the movies theater, that person always has to answer.

Today I was reviewing with a flight instructor on my bi-annual check ride, and I can't count how many times his cell phone went off and he answered it. Hello buddy, you are on my dime, I should be your priority, not what dog your girlfriend wants. Trust me, that can wait till you get home.

This happens with several other people I know to. I talk to them, or watching a movie with them, and they're talking or txting on their phones. Hell, even when I go to the movies there are idiots who have to answer their phones in the middle of the movies.

Whatever happened to common courtesy, am I the only one who finds this annoying?

So, what are other examples of people not exercising common courtesy when they should be?

I feel the exact same way. It's incredibly annoying and rude.

common courtesy was made extinct... just after Common Sense.

however, there was one story my friend told me. a cell phone went off in the theatre. as people groaned at the interruption, the ones nearest to him heard him say "ok, prep him for the OR and I'll be right there."

If he was on call he shouldn't have been in the theater. If he's on call 24/7 tough bloody luck for him, he can rent it on DVD later. I don't give a damn what your job is that's no excuse for disrupting everyone else's enjoyment of the movie.

Well see, some people have decided I do the same, and thats because, quite frankly, I do... except that I have a very good reason for it. See, I have a stereo bluetooth headset, which I use to listen to music. I turned my phone into my iPod, for convenience's sake. As such, when someone calls me, I have to turn off the headphones, wait for the phone to realise there is no headset connected, then ask me if I want to take the call manually. Which I would much prefer to do. But by this stage, people have often hung up. It's just easier to take the call on my headset. Not to mention the hassle of re-connecting it all after my 20 second call is finished.

...and all the while, you end up looking like a raving nutter.
Sorry, but it's true.

1. People with minuscule headsets or tiny cell phones who enter a room speaking loudly enough that I think they're talking to me, and then glare at be for not seeing the electronic device on the other side of their face when I reply

2. couples who hold hands but walk as far apart as their linked appendages allow, creating an 8' barrier to all pedestrian traffic

3. Wilgrove. just because. :P

Now, see, this is interesting, because I've been doing this for a long time too, and I have NEVER gotten that reaction, not even from people I know are serious feminists.

I call bullshit.

Mmm. I've gotten that reaction a few times.