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Heil Knitler!

Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 03:07
IT’S A-doll Hitler.

Link (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1448685.ece)

A TRENDY designer has sparked outrage with a set of knitting patterns to make woolly models of the world’s most evil dictators.

Rachael Matthews — who has kick-started a celebrity knitting craze — calls the grotesque Nazi doll Knitler.

Yay, my Christmas present dilemma is solved!

Other tyrants featured are Iraqi monster Saddam Hussein, Uganda’s brutal Idi Amin and Cambodian dictator Pol Pot.

One for all the family!

A spokesman for the Jewish Network said: You would hope people would have more sense than to take a cuddly Hitler into work.

Hello, it was 50 years ago people, when I bring in my Genghis....wait for it....Yarn doll, do people get offended?

No.

Who would you like to knit? I'd like a little round Il Ruffino for my desk.

Would you be offended by this?
Chernobyl-Pripyat
24-07-2008, 03:15
I want the Pol Pot one...
Andaras
24-07-2008, 03:17
Glad they are not doing Stalin, considering he was not a dictator.
Maineiacs
24-07-2008, 03:18
Link (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1448685.ece)



Yay, my Christmas present dilemma is solved!



One for all the family!



Hello, it was 50 years ago people, when I bring in my Genghis....wait for it....Yarn doll, do people get offended?

No.

Who would you like to knit? I'd like a little round Il Ruffino for my desk.

Would you be offended by this?


A yarn doll of Ruffy? Hell yes, I'd be offended!:D
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 03:19
Glad they are not doing Stalin, considering he was not a dictator.

Though he was cuddly.
Andaras
24-07-2008, 03:22
Well the Ukrainians would certainly love the Hitler doll, considering those fascist nutbags considering him their national hero.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:42
This does seem a bit odd. No Bush yet?
Lunatic Goofballs
24-07-2008, 04:45
I want the Pol Pot one...

You could use him to grab hot baking pans and call him a Pol Potholder. :)
Poliwanacraca
24-07-2008, 04:47
I dunno - it seems like such knit dolls could be fun to deliberately abuse. I could see beating Hitler's head against the wall as a potentially good way to deal with stress. :)
AusWorldDomination
24-07-2008, 04:53
of course i find it offensive... im jewish!
NERVUN
24-07-2008, 05:05
I wonders what the other patterns are.
Gauthier
24-07-2008, 05:05
of course i find it offensive... im jewish!

Offensive would be using Hitler Oven Mitts for Passover.
Lord Tothe
24-07-2008, 05:09
Offensive would be using Hitler Oven Mitts for Passover.

How? The right person goes in the oven that way!
Straughn
24-07-2008, 05:11
:eek:
In before the lock? *notes above post*

Seriously, a Ruffy golfclub cover .... imagine the pictures with those!
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 05:27
I wish I could knit, I'd totally make these.

Poli, you're female, can you knit one for us?
Wilgrove
24-07-2008, 05:29
If only Voodoo dolls actually work....
Gauthier
24-07-2008, 05:30
If only Voodoo dolls actually work....

Then it would be easier to buy a Wii than it would be to get a Bush Doll.
Intangelon
24-07-2008, 05:31
Who's next?

Augusto Pincrochet?

Slobodan Milosostitch?
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 05:33
Who's next?

Augusto Pincrochet?

Slobodan Milosostitch?

That's the spirit.

:salute:

(On a side note, for some reason this salute smilie made me think 'Hitler' when I first saw it, I was wondering why OMAC thought we needed a Hitler smilie, something to do with Godwin I mused)
Gauthier
24-07-2008, 05:35
He's not a dictator but...

Vladimir Linen.
Poliwanacraca
24-07-2008, 05:36
I wish I could knit, I'd totally make these.

Poli, you're female, can you knit one for us?

SEXIST ASSUMPTIONS MAKE ME STABBY! :soap:

...anyway, nah, I've never learned to knit. I keep meaning to at some point, though. :)
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 05:40
...anyway, nah, I've never learned to knit.

How will you ever get married?
Gauthier
24-07-2008, 05:43
Also Not Dictators:

Nikita Croch-chev
George W. Plush
François Mittenrand
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 05:47
Gloria Arroyo Makemeacardigan?
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 05:51
Also Not Dictators:

Nikita Croch-chev
George W. Plush
François Mittenrand

Nikita K could go double actually - Knitika Croch-chev.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 05:51
SEXIST ASSUMPTIONS MAKE ME STABBY! :soap:
What an unlucky coincidence he was already handing you the darning needles.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 05:51
How will you ever get married?Through NSG Blind Date threads.
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Pepe Dominguez
24-07-2008, 05:52
Hello, it was 50 years ago people, when I bring in my Genghis....wait for it....Yarn doll, do people get offended?

No.

Who would you like to knit? I'd like a little round Il Ruffino for my desk.

Would you be offended by this?

Genghis Yarn? How thick a British (or Boston) accent do you need to have "yarn" sound like Khan? :)

I'm not offended by dictator dolls, though. You wouldn't buy one to support Hitler or Stalin or whomever, I wouldn't think. Cuddly Hitler might offend co-workers I guess, but I doubt anyone I work with would even recognise any of the others.
Trostia
24-07-2008, 05:55
Distasteful, I suppose. But you have to admit there is a certain fascination with dictators, and their Dictator Mustaches.

The problem is with people who actually turn to worship mass-murderers and defend them and stuff. The kinds of people who are likely to support said dictators and enable them to kill, oppress and slaughter.

Glad they are not doing Stalin, considering he was not a dictator.

Yeah, it would be a real shame if anyone were to slander the good name of poor, maligned Stalin.
The Alma Mater
24-07-2008, 05:58
of course i find it offensive... im jewish!

So ? Now you can throw Hitler in a gaschamber. Or give him to your dog.
Trostia
24-07-2008, 06:00
So ? Now you can throw Hitler in a gaschamber. Or give him to your dog.

And it's like practicing Voodoo, too. I'm thinking of getting one myself, and I am imbued with Jewishness.
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 06:07
So ? Now you can throw Hitler in a gaschamber. Or give him to your dog.

Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly.
The Alma Mater
24-07-2008, 06:11
Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly.

One can knit one !
Or just use the oven.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 06:11
Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly.
http://gregbennett.blogs.com/photos/halloween_2005/gbs_halloween_party_dog_with_fake_butt_h.jpg
Ask the wifey.
Kyronea
24-07-2008, 06:14
Glad they are not doing Stalin, considering he was not a dictator.

How was Stalin not a dictator? He had complete control over the government and his word was law. He was not popularly elected nor could he have ever been voted out of office, so to speak. He was, by any definition, a dictator.
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 06:24
http://gregbennett.blogs.com/photos/halloween_2005/gbs_halloween_party_dog_with_fake_butt_h.jpg

:gas:

In this instance, and this instance only, the use of the gas-mask smiley has been approved. Contact your local Forum Advisory Board for more information.
Poliwanacraca
24-07-2008, 06:27
How will you ever get married?

Mail-order husband. *nod*

That, or find a guy who'd appreciate my other....skills. ;)
Andaras
24-07-2008, 06:34
How was Stalin not a dictator? He had complete control over the government and his word was law. He was not popularly elected nor could he have ever been voted out of office, so to speak. He was, by any definition, a dictator.
That's because your going be bourgeois propaganda.

It is common to hear Stalin described as a ‘dictator

The strongly anti-Soviet American writer Eugene Lyons once asked Stalin directly: ‘Are you a dictator?’ Lyons goes on (and I quote:)

"Stalin smiled, implying that the question was on the preposterous side.

‘No’, he said slowly, ‘I am no dictator. Those who use the word do not understand the Soviet system of government and the methods of the Communist Party. No one man or group of men can dictate. Decisions are made by the Party".

The British Fabian economists Sidney and Beatrice Webb, in their comprehensive book ‘Soviet Communism: A New Civilisation’ categorically reject the notion of Stalin as a dictator. They say (and I quote):

"Stalin . . . has not even the extensive power . . . which the American Constitution entrusts for four years to every successive president. .

The Communist Party in the USSR has adopted its own organization.

In this pattern individual dictatorship has no place. Personal decisions are distrusted and elaborately guarded against",

Certainly, in the time of Lenin and Stalin the Soviet regime was officially described as one of the ‘dictatorship of the proletariat . But this does not imply personal dictatorship. It means simply that political power is in the hands of working people, and that political activity aimed at taking political power away from the working people is illegal.
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 06:34
Mail-order husband. *nod*

That, or find a guy who'd appreciate my other....skills. ;)

Cooking? Cleaning? Child-raising? Apron-wearing?
Poliwanacraca
24-07-2008, 06:37
Cooking? Cleaning? Child-raising? Apron-wearing?

I'm very good at at least half of those things. *nod*
Kyronea
24-07-2008, 06:37
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything I say is bourgeois propaganda and you're the true arbiter of history. :rolleyes:

Regardless of the party propaganda, Stalin WAS in direct control over Soviet policy. He had no one to answer to. No one would challenge him. He was feared and hated and anyone who became a political enemy of his was eliminated. He was a dictator, and whether you want to accept that or not is irrelevant to the facts at hand.
Barringtonia
24-07-2008, 06:38
*snip*

You'll be interested to know there's currently a poll going on in Russia for Most Admired Russian - or similar, I'll get the link.

Stalin's in first place, closely followed the last Czar Alexander,

It's the 'Greatest Russian'.

Don't mind the revisionist portrayal of Stalin as a mass murdering madman, we all know he was a cuddly old chap.

Link (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/23/opinion/edyoung.php)
The Alma Mater
24-07-2008, 06:45
Don't mind the revisionist portrayal of Stalin as a mass murdering madman, we all know he was a cuddly old chap.


One does not exclude the other ;)
Straughn
24-07-2008, 06:55
That, or find a guy who'd appreciate my other....skills. ;)What you say is very interesting. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Indri
24-07-2008, 06:56
Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly.
They're not difficult to construct. The gas for it is also pretty easy to make and there are a whole lot of gases to choose from.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 06:56
Cooking? Cleaning? Child-raising? Apron-wearing?
Extreme Ironing?
Kyronea
24-07-2008, 06:57
You'll be interested to know there's currently a poll going on in Russia for Most Admired Russian - or similar, I'll get the link.

Stalin's in first place, closely followed the last Czar Alexander,

It's the 'Greatest Russian'.

Don't mind the revisionist portrayal of Stalin as a mass murdering madman, we all know he was a cuddly old chap.

Link (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/23/opinion/edyoung.php)

Uh...wasn't Stalin a Georgian...?
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 06:59
They're not difficult to construct. The gas for it is also pretty easy to make and there are a whole lot of gases to choose from.

Nevertheless: Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly. ;)
Andaras
24-07-2008, 07:01
Uh...wasn't Stalin a Georgian...?
Yes, he correctly pointed out that he was a 'Russified Asian'.
Skalvia
24-07-2008, 07:01
Why would anyone care...its a doll honestly...there are more important things like actual Neo-Nazis, lol...aw hell, i cant even bring myself to care about them, lol...

EDIT:Id like a doll of Xerxes or Ramses they were pretty brutal, lol...probably dwarf anyone on the list, save Hitler, lol...Or maybe the
Doll of Kim Jong-Il from Team America, lol, thatd rule
Conch Archipelago
24-07-2008, 07:22
Amazing how a man who has been dead over half a century can still rouse such intense emotions. Equally amazing is the fact that human nature will revere the villain and ignore those whose life's work has probably saved more people than Hitler killed.

Google Michael E. DeBakey
Skalvia
24-07-2008, 07:28
Amazing how a man who has been dead over half a century can still rouse such intense emotions. Equally amazing is the fact that human nature will revere the villain and ignore those whose life's work has probably saved more people than Hitler killed.

Google Michael E. DeBakey

Yeah, but noone feared DeBakey though...people only really remember what they fear or despise...

But, damn he did have alot of breakthroughs...If i ever need open heart surgery i shall thank him, lol...
Risottia
24-07-2008, 10:27
Would you be offended by this?

No... if it suicides and gets burned by other Knitnazis in the Knitkanzlerei as Knitsoviets conquer Knitberlin.
Khadgar
24-07-2008, 13:25
Who has their own gas chamber? Srsly.

Easy enough to build. Take some phosphoric acid, which is oft found as toilet bowl cleaner, and throw in some bleach. Granted bleach doesn't have enough chlorine to make a good reaction, but it'll still drain the oxygen from the air.
Call to power
24-07-2008, 13:37
am I the only one slightly unnerved that this doll has no eyes or mouth

if they had a pick of it holding a knife I would shit my undies :eek:
Dododecapod
24-07-2008, 13:38
I have a plush Ebola and Black Death sitting on my computer's monitor right now...
Muravyets
25-07-2008, 03:25
I'm not at all offended. He's cute!

I can knit.

No, I won't knit a Hitler for any of you ingrates.

I just circulated the link to the members of my knitting club. No, they won't knit dictators for you sots, either. Learn to do it your own lazy selves.

I'm not exactly sure, though, if this beats out the other most brain-scrambling knitting pattern I ever saw in my life, which is this:

Skyla (a squid-shaped menstrual cup cozy for those off weeks)
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3Q751I2NLN26X

If you have to ask what a menstrual cup is, then you don't want to know. I had to ask, and I really regret that I did. Be grateful for the lack of image (Skyla is pink, btw).

Actually, now I think about it, Skyla the Squid Menstrual Cup Cozy is worse than Knitler. :D
Barringtonia
25-07-2008, 03:42
Genghis Yarn? How thick a British (or Boston) accent do you need to have "yarn" sound like Khan? :)

My friend is married to a Mongolian so I asked her last night about this since we were at a bar watching a friend play that night.

They pronounce it to rhyme with 'yarn' but it's a silent, though slightly gutteral, K on the Khan. More like 'Harn' with a 'hje' sound.

So it seems I was correct, or at least the British accent flukily matches.

I'm not at all offended. He's cute!

I can knit.

No, I won't knit a Hitler for any of you ingrates.

I just circulated the link to the members of my knitting club. No, they won't knit dictators for you sots, either. Learn to do it your own lazy selves.

Awww muu-UM!
Intangelon
25-07-2008, 03:54
Gloria Arroyo Makemeacardigan?

Mahmoud Ahmedinnerjacket?
Barringtonia
25-07-2008, 04:01
Mahmoud Ahmedinnerjacket?

Apparently that's how the CNN reporter - Christine Ammanpour - remembers to pronounce his name - I'm a dinner jacket.
Intangelon
25-07-2008, 04:03
Apparently that's how the CNN reporter - Christine Ammanpour - remembers to pronounce his name - I'm a dinner jacket.

Well, fair play to the hot journalist.
Partybus
25-07-2008, 04:35
To the right of my key board, at this very juncture, is my president Bush, "PULL MY FINGER PRESIDENT!" doll...It's hilarious...You squeeze the figer and gwb farts and says witty things...maybe you had to be there...but you can get yer own...It's by Tekky Toys...I would have to think they have many other options as well...I usually keep it next to my "Santa's Farting Outhouse"...But I only break that one out for the holidays :)
Poliwanacraca
25-07-2008, 05:39
I'm not at all offended. He's cute!

I can knit.

No, I won't knit a Hitler for any of you ingrates.

I just circulated the link to the members of my knitting club. No, they won't knit dictators for you sots, either. Learn to do it your own lazy selves.

I'm not exactly sure, though, if this beats out the other most brain-scrambling knitting pattern I ever saw in my life, which is this:


http://www.amazon.com/review/R3Q751I2NLN26X

If you have to ask what a menstrual cup is, then you don't want to know. I had to ask, and I really regret that I did. Be grateful for the lack of image (Skyla is pink, btw).

Actually, now I think about it, Skyla the Squid Menstrual Cup Cozy is worse than Knitler. :D

That has broken my brain.

(I am laughing so hard, though. Wow. Just...wow.)
Ryadn
25-07-2008, 05:42
You'll be interested to know there's currently a poll going on in Russia for Most Admired Russian - or similar, I'll get the link.

Stalin's in first place, closely followed the last Czar Alexander,

It's the 'Greatest Russian'.

Don't mind the revisionist portrayal of Stalin as a mass murdering madman, we all know he was a cuddly old chap.

Link (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/23/opinion/edyoung.php)

No Gogol? No Mayakovsky?

Shenanigans.
Ryadn
25-07-2008, 06:12
Amazing how a man who has been dead over half a century can still rouse such intense emotions. Equally amazing is the fact that human nature will revere the villain and ignore those whose life's work has probably saved more people than Hitler killed.

Google Michael E. DeBakey

Don't have to, I read the same article you probably did right after he died last week. :rolleyes:
The Lone Alliance
25-07-2008, 09:05
I'll hold out for Pinochet.

Take a look at the comments page there, it's pun city.
Evir Bruck Saulsbury
25-07-2008, 09:46
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3Q751I2NLN26X

If you have to ask what a menstrual cup is, then you don't want to know. I had to ask, and I really regret that I did. Be grateful for the lack of image (Skyla is pink, btw).

Actually, now I think about it, Skyla the Squid Menstrual Cup Cozy is worse than Knitler. :D

Wait, how exactly does a menstrual cup cozy work. . .

I for some reason don't see that being very useful. . .
Risottia
25-07-2008, 10:02
Who's next?

Augusto Pincrochet?

Slobodan Milosostitch?

Benito Mussolinen.

(by the way, the "mussola" is a kind of cloth)
Barringtonia
25-07-2008, 10:07
Benito Mussolinen.

(by the way, the "mussola" is a kind of cloth)

:salute:

Also Silvio Purl-usconi.
Risottia
25-07-2008, 10:19
:salute:

Also Silvio Purl-usconi.

Persistent-uniform-resource-locator-Usconi? D'uh...:confused:

Maybe Silvio Pelouche-coni.
Barringtonia
25-07-2008, 10:28
Persistent-uniform-resource-locator-Usconi? D'uh...:confused:

Maybe Silvio Pelouche-coni.

purl
n 1: gold or silver wire thread
2: a basic knitting stitch [syn: purl stitch]
Yootopia
25-07-2008, 11:57
Benito Mussolinen.

(by the way, the "mussola" is a kind of cloth)
Muslin, IIRC.
Muravyets
26-07-2008, 02:02
Wait, how exactly does a menstrual cup cozy work. . .

I for some reason don't see that being very useful. . .
It has straps.

And it keeps your mentrual cup cozy. Obviously.