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I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

Your plan intrigues me, Sir or Madame, and I wish to know more.

This must be what it felt like to watch the infamous "jumping the shark" episode for the first time. Only not that interesting.

And when everyone on the planet has been in some way named a bigot, what then?

Yeah, that sounds like a plausible, realistic solution to the bigotry problem.

And when everyone on the planet has been in some way named a bigot, what then?

Eventually some sort of commitee will have to be implemented to make sure only the extreme hate groups and bigots such as KKK members and the like get in and others watch from the safety of their living rooms.

Sure, and then the less extreme hate groups'll be shipped out, foremost of which being those groups who disagree with the committee.

Why don't you just feed them to the lions... or hey, you can put them all in this maze, right, and have them fight each other and various traps and stuff to the end... and the ones that live can go free...only they don't, see, we kill them anyway but do a CGI of them going off to some tropical paradise...

Of course you'll need to include a game show host, a body-builder and a wrestler to make it work....

Sure, and then the less extreme hate groups'll be shipped out, foremost of which being those groups who disagree with the committee.

Fine, the commitee will be an AI.

Definitely sounds to me like you're a bigotophobe, Lizasauria. We'll have to ship you out to the island.

Why don't you just feed them to the lions... or hey, you can put them all in this maze, right, and have them fight each other and various traps and stuff to the end... and the ones that live can go free...only they don't, see, we kill them anyway but do a CGI of them going off to some tropical paradise...

Of course you'll need to include a game show host, a body-builder and a wrestler to make it work....

Better yet they should be placed in a maze and have robots that keep them in good health whilst having to wear protective armor that only the robots can remove, also all their weapons would be larp weapons that way the fights are longer and people would complain less about cruelty. ;)

Definitely sounds to me like you're a bigotophobe, Lizasauria. We'll have to ship you out to the island.

*swords you to death and escapes* :D

On a more serious note, you can't say I'm a bigotophobe based on this thread alone, especially since this is somewhat of a parody/satire thread.

Fine, the commitee will be an AI.

AI will have its own biases based on its programming. and, even if you created a truly objective AI, if you don't like the taste of oatmeal, you'd be lumped (pun intended) in with oatmeal bigots and there you'd be, duking it out with guys to stupid to change their shoes after putting on their sheets...

On a more serious note, you can't say I'm a bigotophobe based on this thread alone, especially since this is somewhat of a parody/satire thread.

Who are you parodying?

Who are you parodying?

compensatory bigots plus on top of that I'm caffeine high, I've made it personal policy to post here only when caffeine or sugar high *chugs another monster energy drink*

I say add in chainsaws. Everything is better when chainsaws are involved.

I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

I have a better idea.

We modify current hatespeech laws. Everytime you say something incredibly racist, sexist or homophobic the person you're talking to gets to punch you in the mouth, once, with no legal reprisal. If you punch them back they can still charge you with assault.

That way we still get free speech, douchebags still get to be douchebags, and we no longer have to fight our urge to sock them. Everybody wins!

compensatory bigots

Well, I don't think you were very successful, since your "parody" in no way actually addresses the issue of compensation or reparation for racial injustice.

I have a better idea.

We modify current hatespeech laws. Everytime you say something incredibly racist, sexist or homophobic the person you're talking to gets to punch you in the mouth, once, with no legal reprisal. If you punch them back they can still charge you with assault.

That way we still get free speech, douchebags still get to be douchebags, and we no longer have to fight our urge to sock them. Everybody wins!

I don't think homophobic is a proper term for the hatred of homosexuals. The suffix "phobe" implies fear. Lets just call the hatred for homosexuals "gaycism" *nods*

Well, I don't think you were very successful, since your "parody" in no way actually addresses the issue of compensation or reparation for racial injustice.

Compensatory hatred doesn't do anything but aggravate the situation, you can't convince them to stop hating since that is impossible, ergo send them elsewhere where they are free to hate without damaging us non-hating bystanders. Everyone wins. ;)

I don't think homophobic is a proper term for the hatred of homosexuals.

Well, you're wrong.

The suffix "phobe" implies fear.

First, while examining the meaning of the roots of a word can give you an idea of its meaning, it's not a way to attain the definition. "Philanthropy", "pedophilia", and "hemophilia" all make use of a Greek root meaning friendship or love, but the meanings in context are very different.

Second, "phobe" can also refer to repulsion ("hydrophobe"), which can be reasonably stretched to encompass dislike or hatred.

Lets just call the hatred for homosexuals "gaycism" *nods*

There are other terms if you prefer a different one (heterosexism, for instance), though the meanings are slightly different.

Compensatory hatred doesn't do anything but aggravate the situation, you can't convince them to stop hating since that is impossible, ergo send them elsewhere where they are free to hate without damaging us non-hating bystanders. Everyone wins. ;)

That's not a parody, that's a highly unrealistic way of addressing some problems raised by the object of your critique.

Indeed, if anything, it only works as a parody of people opposed to "compensatory" treatment: they fuss about "reverse discrimination", but their solutions are all pie-in-the-sky.

Who decides who's a bigot? What would the qualifications of bigotry be? I might say that you're a bigot in some ways.

I don't think homophobic is a proper term for the hatred of homosexuals. The suffix "phobe" implies fear. Lets just call the hatred for homosexuals "gaycism" *nods*

I know you're being facetious, but I hate that argument. Words adopt meaning through use; arguing the semantics of a word that's already been established because it doesn't make perfect historical sense is foolishness. Hell, if you're going to say that the -phobia suffix means de facto fear, aren't you going to have to go all the way and say that the homo in homophobia literally just means "the same?"

Who decides who's a bigot? What would the qualifications of bigotry be? I might say that you're a bigot in some ways.

the AI. :p It's posted earlier in this thread.

the AI. :p It's posted earlier in this thread.

What if it decides that larger and larger sections of humanity are bigots?

What if it decides that larger and larger sections of humanity are bigots?

Robo revolutions are FUN!!!!!! :mp5::gundge::gas: :) LOL

http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/kaiaxford/WindowsLiveWriter/Imbaaaaack_D1AE/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-The-Terminator_thumb.jpg

especially since this is somewhat of a parody/satire thread.

Oh, so you admit it's spam. OK, good.

Oh, so you admit it's spam. OK, good.

It would be spam if wasn't a discussion, this thread maybe not a serious discussion but a discussion nonetheless.

Well, I don't think you were very successful

Be honest, did you actually expect otherwise?

Be honest, did you actually expect otherwise?

Hey lawyer dude, if you are so uptight about the rues then how come you like to break them youself?! :p

Hey lawyer dude, if you are so uptight about the rues then how come you like to break them youself?! :p

I tend to be not all together caring about those that violate the forum rules. I do however have a great personal disgust in the growth of human stupidity.

In related news, Fox has begun negotiations to bring this idea to their fall schedule.


Word is it will be hosted by Paula Abdul.

I tend to be not all together caring about those that violate the forum rules. I do however have a great personal disgust in the growth of human stupidity.

Nah, your just stressed out from something unrelated to the forums, this place is where you get to vent your anger, I understand. :)

I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

I don't think I like this idea. Because it has been my experience that people who complain the most about bigotry are themselves among the most bigoted on the face of the earth. And what's worse, they refuse to acknowledge their own bigotry as such, or if they do, they justify it somehow, they make it look and sound good, as if THEIR kind of bigotry is acceptable.

And when everyone on the planet has been in some way named a bigot, what then?

Exactly. QFT. As Archie Bunker said, "There's a little bit o'me in all a'yuz."

And he was right. As wrong as he may have been, and often WAS, about other things, he was right about that.

Eventually some sort of commitee will have to be implemented to make sure only the extreme hate groups and bigots such as KKK members and the like get in and others watch from the safety of their living rooms.

The only problem with this is that the definition of "extreme hate groups" could be expanded to include almost anybody, even those who aren't particularly hateful.

Sure, and then the less extreme hate groups'll be shipped out, foremost of which being those groups who disagree with the committee.

THIS is another major problem with SL's idea.
Why don't you just feed them to the lions... or hey, you can put them all in this maze, right, and have them fight each other and various traps and stuff to the end... and the ones that live can go free...only they don't, see, we kill them anyway but do a CGI of them going off to some tropical paradise...

Of course you'll need to include a game show host, a body-builder and a wrestler to make it work....

Sorry, this is also unacceptable, because of the subjective element in the definition of "extreme hate groups", especially if you're gonna kill them anyway even if they survive the lions or the maze or whatever. See my reply above to an SL post.

Nah, your just stressed out from something unrelated to the forums, this place is where you get to vent your anger, I understand. :)

I don't think so. I think he's just annoyed by blatant stupidity. As am I.

I don't think I like this idea. Because it has been my experience that people who complain the most about bigotry are themselves among the most bigoted on the face of the earth. And what's worse, they refuse to acknowledge their own bigotry as such, or if they do, they justify it somehow, they make it look and sound good, as if THEIR kind of bigotry is acceptable.



Exactly. QFT. As Archie Bunker said, "There's a little bit o'me in all a'yuz."

And he was right. As wrong as he may have been, and often WAS, about other things, he was right about that.



The only problem with this is that the definition of "extreme hate groups" could be expanded to include almost anybody, even those who aren't particularly hateful.



THIS is another major problem with SL's idea.


Sorry, this is also unacceptable, because of the subjective element in the definition of "extreme hate groups", especially if you're gonna kill them anyway even if they survive the lions or the maze or whatever. See my reply above to an SL post.

1) Hey, you got the message of my satire :)

4) The AI should solve that problem for a while

I don't seriously agree with this idea, I just posted it to get a message across which Ohshucksiforgotourname was able to percieve.

Lesson of the story, those who are anti-bigoted are way more bigoted themselves and they get away with it by making themselves seem right or good or angelic. Enough said.

1) Hey, you got the message of my satire :)

4) The AI should solve that problem for a while

I don't seriously agree with this idea, I just posted it to get a message across which Ohshucksiforgotourname was able to percieve.

Lesson of the story, those who are anti-bigoted are way more bigoted themselves and they get away with it by making themselves seem right or good or angelic. Enough said.

I don't know about that. I think that the KKK are probably more bigoted than me. I'm pretty sure I can call them bigots without being much of a hypocrite.

Because it has been my experience that people who complain the most about bigotry are themselves among the most bigoted on the face of the earth.

Somehow I doubt that. :rolleyes:

Lesson of the story, those who are anti-bigoted are way more bigoted themselves

So are either of you going to explain exactly how this mechanism works?

Or are you just going to unthinkingly revel in the abolition of distinctions?

So are either of you going to explain exactly how this mechanism works?

Or are you just going to unthinkingly revel in the abolition of distinctions?

So you don't believe that liberals and those who believe in compensatory discrimination are indeed more bigoted than their overt counterparts?

So you don't believe that liberals and those who believe in compensatory discrimination are indeed more bigoted than their overt counterparts?

Absolutely not.

I don't think the people who support male domination, white supremacy, and heterosexism are in any way whatsoever morally equivalent to the people who militantly oppose those things, and are actually willing to try to alleviate their effects.

Indeed, the two stances are as different as black and white, justice and injustice, right and wrong.

The people who pretend otherwise are just indulging in a convenient false "neutrality", an inaction that essentially amounts to complicity with the evils of the status quo.

I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

My solution: education, education, education. No informed indiviual remains a bigot.

My solution: education, education, education. No informed indiviual remains a bigot.
The people most likely to become bigotted often do not finish their time in education, though.

The only way to eliminate bigotry is to remove differences between people.

Cloned, ageless, sexeless "humans" all looking, thinking and feeling same belonging to same group.

...and even then it would be a close call...

My solution: education, education, education. No informed indiviual remains a bigot.
Probably the most uninformed statement I've heard in a while...

It's not the stupid or uneducated who promote eugenics, after all :p

The only way to eliminate bigotry is to remove differences between people.

"Eliminate" entirely, perhaps... but there are plenty of differences that are not much subject to social prejudice.

I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

But that would have to include you, because you're prejudiced against bigots, making YOU a bigot! :eek:

The only way to eliminate bigotry is to remove differences between people.

All difference and thus inequality comes from class society.

But that would have to include you, because you're prejudiced against bigots, making YOU a bigot! :eek:

It doesn't require prejudice to oppose bigots and bigotry.

All difference and thus inequality comes from class society.

Weird. So if I were poorer, I would turn into a black woman?

"Eliminate" entirely, perhaps... but there are plenty of differences that are not much subject to social prejudice.
But we all have attributes that people are prejudiced against or biased towards.

Gender being one: We all experience gender discrimination.

Other sources of natural prejudice being looks, personality, wealth, social status, age, height, weight, race, hair color, etc...

We can't change basic human psyche, we can only try to mellow the extremes out.

Education is good means, another is cultural homogenization: When in Rome, Do As the Romans Do so to speak - Respecting the cultural standard and on the other hand evolving the underlying standard to encompass multitude of good - acceptable - things from other cultures lessens the pressure for bigotry. One more oft overlooked factor is better income equality: When that hobo can afford own home and decent set of clothes an important source of bigotry is reduced.

Weird. So if I were poorer, I would turn into a black woman?

Or an athletic Japanese transsexual?

Or an athletic Japanese transsexual?
Someone should compile a chart of how different income levels determine the race, sex, and build of the earner.

Someone should compile a chart of how different income levels determine the race, sex, and build of the earner.
...

So, if I don't make much money, I'm a African American single mom? Weird.

Unless of course, that was sarcasm and/or a misinterpretation, PLEASE tell me it was.

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So, if I don't make much money, I'm a African American single mom? Weird.

Unless of course, that was sarcasm and/or a misinterpretation, PLEASE tell me it was.

Don't worry, it was sarcasm. I was trying to make the point plenty of bigoted ideas are related to things besides class.

The people most likely to become bigotted often do not finish their time in education, though.

True that. Also, i'm surprised noone's mentioned the biggest flaw of my statement; Belgium. Belgian education is among the best of the World, yet it's about to break apart due to bigotry.

True that. Also, i'm surprised noone's mentioned the biggest flaw of my statement; Belgium.
Who cares about Belgium, anyway? :p
Belgian education is among the best of the World
I disagree. Very few Wallonians speak Flemish. Not being able to speak one of your country's official languages isn't a great sign of a fantastic education, no?
yet it's about to break apart due to bigotry.
Also because Wallonia basically lives on Flemish benefit payments, and the Flemish have had enough.

Who decides?

So you don't believe that liberals and those who believe in compensatory discrimination are indeed more bigoted than their overt counterparts?

No.

This has been another edition of Short Answers To Stupid Questions.

You can't think I was serious?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093894/
Honestly. Philistines.

1)
Lesson of the story, those who are anti-bigoted are way more bigoted themselves

You might as well have said that the lesson of the story is that unemployed walruses should only do cocaine off the bare asses of transexual hookers who have graduated highschool for all that your "lesson" actually relates to your aborted effort of a thoughtful OP.

You might as well have said that the lesson of the story is that unemployed walruses should only do cocaine off the bare asses of transexual hookers who have graduated highschool for all that your "lesson" actually relates to your aborted effort of a thoughtful OP.

Well, at least that lesson has some basis in reality. I mean, have you heard what happened to the unemployed walrus who went with an elementary-school dropout transsexual hooker instead? *shudder*

Fine, the commitee will be an AI.

Mechanicals hate us squishies.

Lesson of the story, those who are anti-bigoted are way more bigoted themselves
Nice reactionary logic.

Absolutely not.

I don't think the people who support male domination, white supremacy, and heterosexism are in any way whatsoever morally equivalent to the people who militantly oppose those things, and are actually willing to try to alleviate their effects.

Indeed, the two stances are as different as black and white, justice and injustice, right and wrong.

The people who pretend otherwise are just indulging in a convenient false "neutrality", an inaction that essentially amounts to complicity with the evils of the status quo.

Must I remind you that their "efforts" are indeed aggravating the situation and that their idea of curing hatred with hatred is like curing poison with more of the same poison?

Nice reactionary logic.

It's true, I doubt few will see it here because many of them are guilty of this.

NSG:OHHH we're indifferent and unbiased and we hate all those bigoted american christian straight fellas who are always wrong!!! :rolleyes:

No.

This has been another edition of Short Answers To Stupid Questions.

Well then your a blind hypocrite. And if all your going to do is troll get bent.

Must I remind you that their "efforts" are indeed aggravating the situation

Yes, whenever anyone attempts to actually change something in a way other people don't like, this accusation is tossed against them.

But the more fundamental truth is that no problem is solved unless people actually make an effort to solve it. And realistically--not by shipping people off to islands.

and that their idea of curing hatred with hatred is like curing poison with more of the same poison?

Well, it might be, if that were actually our idea.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's not.

You might as well have said that the lesson of the story is that unemployed walruses should only do cocaine off the bare asses of transexual hookers who have graduated highschool for all that your "lesson" actually relates to your aborted effort of a thoughtful OP.

Isn't that the same lesson you gave that time you guest lectured on opening day of the moot court competitions at Columbia?

I have an idea that'll solve the bigotry problem. Build an artificial island out of all the extra trash mankind is producing then ship all the bigots there. I mean every kind ranging from racial groups to compensatory bigots. Then arm them all with basic medieval weaponry. After that helicopters with camera crews can tape the all out war. It can become a new tv program!


Yet another amusement from South Lizasauria.

:gas:

Or, you know, we could work to change their beliefs and get them to realize their bigotry is pointless, and everyone would be much happier.

Oh, it's a usual SL thread.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u231/cheezeguy/n725075089_288918_2774.jpg

I have a better idea.

We modify current hatespeech laws. Everytime you say something incredibly racist, sexist or homophobic the person you're talking to gets to punch you in the mouth, once, with no legal reprisal. If you punch them back they can still charge you with assault.

Once upon a time I read that a Celtic woman was legally allowed to kill her husband's lover in three days' time since she discovered the affair. After that time, it was considered cold-blooded murder, and persecuted as such, while the former case was treated as acting on emotions.

i seem to remember a button that said "death to all fanatics".

it would reduce the problem of overpopulation, but the process would still be excessively distrating.

bigotry, chauvanism, billigerance, prejudice, even mallicious aggressiveness, are not a default condition of humanity. they are a political tool, invented and instigated to divide and concor the gullible.

they would die a natural death and be forgotten, if the didn't keep being reinvented.

their REAL elemination is simply a matter of (everyone) ceasing to do so.

and people do, when the have other and more urgent things collectively to think about and have to deal with.

it is only when people have been conned into denying themselves the real gratifications of creating and exploring, that they turn to the vanity of compairing themselves to others and everything to everything else.

but agian, it is only because some individuals want power over other individuals that they get into promoting and creating this kind of thing in the first place.

=^^=
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Weird. So if I were poorer, I would turn into a black woman?

Sigged!

If only my sig still had space in it...

So, everyone on the planet is shipped to this island...

Well then your a blind hypocrite. And if all your going to do is troll get bent.

You asked a question. I answered it, and added commentary on the question itself. In what strange universe is this "trolling"?

(And frankly, being accused of trolling by the very poster who told me that my sexual assault was my fault is so far beyond ridiculous that it's hard to believe you're real...)

You asked a question. I answered it, and added commentary on the question itself. In what strange universe is this "trolling"?

(And frankly, being accused of trolling by the very poster who told me that my sexual assault was my fault is so far beyond ridiculous that it's hard to believe you're real...)

Holy howling shitmonkeys, did SL seriously do that? Was it recent? If you still know the thread, let me know, I'm always on the lookout for the grotesque shit that only the internet conjures up....

Yes, whenever anyone attempts to actually change something in a way other people don't like, this accusation is tossed against them.

But the more fundamental truth is that no problem is solved unless people actually make an effort to solve it. And realistically--not by shipping people off to islands.



Well, it might be, if that were actually our idea.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's not.

Once AGAIN the islands idea was just a satire. Compensatory haters are just as bad as the haters. And deep down they're the same, only they're on opposing sides. Both are powerhungry, both try to give the public the impression they're right and that they're hating is justified, eventually the compensatory haters end up being racist or bigoted toward the majority in general and even the non-haters in said majority end up suffering because of it.

Holy howling shitmonkeys, did SL seriously do that? Was it recent? If you still know the thread, let me know, I'm always on the lookout for the grotesque shit that only the internet conjures up....

They just twisted my words because they hate the non-liberal too much to acknowledge that not all their biased beliefs are fact.

Isn't that the same lesson you gave that time you guest lectured on opening day of the moot court competitions at Columbia?

Common misconception, I was actually at the colombia law school. Where else would you think that proper cocaine etiquette would be appropriate?

I mean, you know, other than at princeton.

Holy howling shitmonkeys, did SL seriously do that? Was it recent? If you still know the thread, let me know, I'm always on the lookout for the grotesque shit that only the internet conjures up....

how does it feel to get owned by the master? Now consider the fact that he actually believes that shit.

how does it feel to get owned by the master? Now consider the fact that he actually believes that shit.

NSG beats me more, I'm beginning to actually believe that the majority of the people here truly find understanding what those outside the circle have to say. My words were twisted in that thread, I never sided with the rapist at all yet all dogpiled me calling me all sorts of perverted things in the name of liberal justice.

I also find the fact that many of those within this forum's circle jerk are unable to accept facts that disagree with their close minded liberal version of reality as fact and that anyone who disagrees is either branded evil, bad and intellectually challenged. I also find that the trolling that goes on here unchecked tends to serve the circle by either making forumgoers believe that the circle is right or driving them away completely. And this my intrepid rivals shall disgust you more than any fiction you create of me. I've seen this behavior before....at the Baptist cult I used to got to. Cultic behavior....*tsk tsk* Dear oh dear. :eek:

Who cares about Belgium, anyway? :p

I disagree. Very few Wallonians speak Flemish. Not being able to speak one of your country's official languages isn't a great sign of a fantastic education, no?

Also because Wallonia basically lives on Flemish benefit payments, and the Flemish have had enough.

Few Wallonians want to speak Dutch, but if you make it clear to them you're not Flemish, they often will speak Dutch.

That benefit payments story is one of the bigotries i was referring to.

Few Wallonians want to speak Dutch, but if you make it clear to them you're not Flemish, they often will speak Dutch.
Not good enough.
That benefit payments story is one of the bigotries i was referring to.
I don't know, every Flemish taxpayer gives, on average, 3 000 Euros to the Wallonians. That's quite a lot of money.

I like the way you think! Great idea, solves the pollution and hate group problem!
Let's start with Westboro Baptist Church.

Holy howling shitmonkeys, did SL seriously do that? Was it recent? If you still know the thread, let me know, I'm always on the lookout for the grotesque shit that only the internet conjures up....

Some of SL's posts in the thread in question: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804893&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804949&postcount=33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810581&postcount=490
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810656&postcount=506

I present these with no commentary whatsoever so SL can't pull out his standard "oh the big mean liberals are just twisting my words" defense.

One question!

If you agree with the above solution aren't you then being bigoted towards bigots?

In which case as a bigot you are condemned to the island! :mp:

One question!

If you agree with the above solution aren't you then being bigoted towards bigots?

In which case as a bigot you are condemned to the island! :mp:

Or you belong to reality, where such nonsense as "bigotry towards bigots" is as real as unicorns.

They just twisted my words because they hate the non-liberal too much to acknowledge that not all their biased beliefs are fact.

Rarely do I write something serious, but some things must be said plainly.

Somebody posted links to what you said. Twisting what you said would be redundant.

You clearly claimed that women were at least partially blameworthy for rape if they dressed a certain way.

That you would hide behind simplistic political modeling to avoid owning up to such a monstrously foul position is something I can't respond to without lengthy preparation.

After a few more posts here, I'm going to take a break from nationstates for a few days...I need time to compose, to let what you said sit and burn in my head, leave blisters that can callous me somehow to the fact that people like you exist.

I've never planned a work before, its always just flowed.

But this has to be done right. Your mentality must be answered, and though it should be done by one far more gifted than I, my meager words will at least give fuller sound to the chorus of those who retort your kind of thinking.

Some of SL's posts in the thread in question: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804893&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804949&postcount=33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810581&postcount=490
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810656&postcount=506

I present these with no commentary whatsoever so SL can't pull out his standard "oh the big mean liberals are just twisting my words" defense.

Thank you for these. He reveals himself clearly.

I've got some work to do, but I'll have some things to say about this.

Some of SL's posts in the thread in question: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804893&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804949&postcount=33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810581&postcount=490
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810656&postcount=506

I present these with no commentary whatsoever so SL can't pull out his standard "oh the big mean liberals are just twisting my words" defense.

And people think I'm an asshole. SL wins again, dammit!

So just because I think all tha tall water from Mexico is some way inferior to water from the U.S. makes me some type of bigot?

All wait, it is just commen sense. *Sighs*

Bigot is just a buzzword used by the media.

So just because I think all tha tall water from Mexico is some way inferior to water from the U.S. makes me some type of bigot?

All wait, it is just commen sense. *Sighs*

Everyone is a bigot in one way or another. It's biological.

And when everyone on the planet has been in some way named a bigot, what then?

Well if you disapprove of a bigot then your being bigoted against the bigot?

I have a better idea.

We modify current hatespeech laws. Everytime you say something incredibly racist, sexist or homophobic the person you're talking to gets to punch you in the mouth, once, with no legal reprisal. If you punch them back they can still charge you with assault.

That way we still get free speech, douchebags still get to be douchebags, and we no longer have to fight our urge to sock them. Everybody wins!

Its not really free speech if you get punished for what you believe.
And whatever happened to freedom of thought?

Its not really free speech if you get punished for what you believe.
And whatever happened to freedom of thought?

"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed—would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."

I have had the same idea in the past but for both right and left wing nutjobs.

Some of SL's posts in the thread in question: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804893&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13804949&postcount=33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810581&postcount=490
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13810656&postcount=506

I present these with no commentary whatsoever so SL can't pull out his standard "oh the big mean liberals are just twisting my words" defense.

This thread is about bigotry not womens' rights. Take your threadjacking somewhere else.

Oh, it's a usual SL thread.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u231/cheezeguy/n725075089_288918_2774.jpg

Read the whole thing first troll. The first post was only a satire.

Rarely do I write something serious, but some things must be said plainly.

Somebody posted links to what you said. Twisting what you said would be redundant.

You clearly claimed that women were at least partially blameworthy for rape if they dressed a certain way.

That you would hide behind simplistic political modeling to avoid owning up to such a monstrously foul position is something I can't respond to without lengthy preparation.

After a few more posts here, I'm going to take a break from nationstates for a few days...I need time to compose, to let what you said sit and burn in my head, leave blisters that can callous me somehow to the fact that people like you exist.

I've never planned a work before, its always just flowed.

But this has to be done right. Your mentality must be answered, and though it should be done by one far more gifted than I, my meager words will at least give fuller sound to the chorus of those who retort your kind of thinking.

*Prepares for the show*
*fires up popcorn maker*
*lays protective plastic tarpaulin*

This is gonna be freakin' spectacular.

*Pausing to calculate if the 750 square feet of tarp will be enough to mitigate the splatter once Ammu unloads and then sitting in line for tickets*

This thread is about bigotry not womens' rights. Take your threadjacking somewhere else.

Same stuff, different nouns.

Same stuff, different nouns.

She's not even discussing women's rights though. She's diverting this discussion to "hey look what SL posted".

*Prepares for the show*
*fires up popcorn maker*
*lays protective plastic tarpaulin*

This is gonna be freakin' spectacular.

*Pausing to calculate if the 750 square feet of tarp will be enough to mitigate the splatter once Ammu unloads and then sitting in line for tickets*

http://www.celsias.com/blog/images/flogging_dead_horse.jpg

Thats what polly and hamburger are doing. *nods*

She's not even discussing women's rights though. She's diverting this discussion to "hey look what SL posted".

It's relevant, but hey.

Or you belong to reality, where such nonsense as "bigotry towards bigots" is as real as unicorns.

Bigotry against preceived bigotry?

It's irrelevant, but hey.

Corrected. The way she's doing it is unnacceptable and improper for these forums.

A) It must follow proper etiquette

B) It mustn't get the discussion sidetracked.

She's baiting and threadjacking.

Corrected. The way she's doing it is unnacceptable and improper for these forums.

A) It must follow proper etiquette

B) It mustn't get the discussion sidetracked.

She's baiting and threadjacking.

You're funny. First I'm "trolling" by answering a question you posed, and now I'm "baiting" by quoting your statements on a relevant topic and "threadjacking" by making exactly one post about which you have chosen to spend half a dozen posts complaining. What's next? Shall you declare that I'm "flaming," by, I dunno, continuing to read this thread?

Corrected. The way she's doing it is unnacceptable and improper for these forums.

A) It must follow proper etiquette

B) It mustn't get the discussion sidetracked.

She's baiting and threadjacking.

That's funny. I see you haven't linked this thread in Moderation. You clearly don't really believe what you're typing or you know that your definition and the one that matters (the Mods') are too far apart.

She's not departed from etiquette. She's neither baiting nor jacking. You're overreacting and have got your knickers in a twist because you were called on something. Sorry, but that's just NSG. Get a cup.

That's funny. I see you haven't linked this thread in Moderation. You clearly don't really believe what you're typing or you know that your definition and the one that matters (the Mods') are too far apart.

She's not departed from etiquette. She's neither baiting nor jacking. You're overreacting and have got your knickers in a twist because you were called on something. Sorry, but that's just NSG. Get a cup.

That was just a warning post. If this continues then I shall link it.

You're funny. First I'm "trolling" by answering a question you posed, and now I'm "baiting" by quoting your statements on a relevant topic and "threadjacking" by making exactly one post about which you have chosen to spend half a dozen posts complaining. What's next? Shall you declare that I'm "flaming," by, I dunno, continuing to read this thread?

Stop lying, your are purposefully trying to make this thread less about how bigots should be dealt with and more about a thread that is old news. I bet even if this was about mountain climbing or something you'd still turn it into "0h luke wat diss gie posted"

Bigotry against preceived bigotry?

Coming from a racist bigot like yourself this is funny indeed.

That was just a warning post. If this continues then I shall link it.

You do know that threatening Moderation is a no-no, don't you?

You do know that threatening Moderation is a no-no, don't you?

Stop hiding behind that, that's everyone's excuse to ignore reminders to abide by the rules. I wasn't threatening I was merely being nice and reminding. If it was threatening it would have sounded incredibly aggressive. It's only mod as a weapon if it such reminders are unjustified.

You do know that threatening Moderation is a no-no, don't you?

The mods are as bias and partisan as all hell, that aint no secret.

Stop hiding behind that, that's everyone's excuse to ignore reminders to abide by the rules. I wasn't threatening I was merely being nice and reminding. If it was threatening it would have sounded incredibly aggressive. It's only mod as a weapon if it such reminders are unjustified.

Mods as a Weapon: Threatening another nation with moderation action if they don't do "action" is not allowed. Representing yourself as a moderator is considered impersonation, and is not allowed. Reporting rule-breakers through the Getting Help page or the Moderation forum is not only allowed, but encouraged. Doing so maliciously or spamming Moderation with questionable requests may invoke a penalty, at the Mod's discretion.

Seems like "if A continues, I go to Moderation" is a threat. You do sound aggressive, and no offense against you has been committed. Your call from here on in, pal.

The mods are as bias and partisan as all hell, that aint no secret.

A) Opinion. B) Irrelevant to this particular exchange. C) But hey.

Seems like "if A continues, I go to Moderation" is a threat. You do sound aggressive, and no offense against you has been committed. Your call from here on in, pal.

She was diverting the subject matter to something entirely different, irrelevant and old. She and Hammurb are beating a dead horse with a stick in this thread. The point of bringing that topic up was not to add to the value of this discussion but to attempt to demonize the OP with OLD posts.

She was diverting the subject matter to something entirely different, irrelevant and old. She and Hammurb are beating a dead horse with a stick in this thread. The point of bringing that topic up was not to add to the value of this discussion but to attempt to demonize the OP with OLD posts.... (ellipsis added)

...that were relevant references to your posting style and history suggesting that your current tack is not much different from your past. Sorry, but that strikes me as relevant.

(ellipsis added)

...that were relevant references to your posting style and history suggesting that your current tack is not much different from your past. Sorry, but that strikes me as relevant.

It is irrelevant due to the fact that I have posted nothing in THIS thread that is in the least bit similar to the past.

It is irrelevant due to the fact that I have posted nothing in THIS thread that is in the least bit similar to the past.

A contention you'll have to take up with those bringing it up. All I'm saying is that precedent is relevant from everything I've read.

I'm done here.

The old 'bigotry against bigots' is a conspiracy theory as old as the hills, and goes in the same category as:

Christians are being oppressed
White people are being oppressed

etc etc

Coming from a racist bigot like yourself this is funny indeed.

LMAO, I'm not racist I'm Australian (ten points for anyone who gets that reference)

Coming from a bigot such as yourself, your comment is made even funnier especially because I asked a question. Are you looking for a fight with me AP? You seem to have made a few comments in threads recently against me where you have made unsubstantiated claims, with no real evidence to back it up.

It's a good thing I am very relaxed AP and I allow things to slide off my back because otherwise I would have brought the Mods in on this one.