Spaniards of the Caribbean?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 18:32
I'm currently visiting my grandparents who live in Puerto Rico since the 1970s. I haven't been to their house in 2 years and when I arrived yesterday, I became aware of the huge foreign population that lives on this Caribbean country. I was wondering why, and of course, the island nation is stunning. So, I wanted to ask NSG if any of you have been to the Caribbean, to which islands and your opinion of them. Would you live in any and why?
In the meantime, I'll leave you with a few photos of Puerto Rico. You're welcome to post any images of the Caribbean that you may have.
http://movilidad.universiablogs.net/files/playa-puerto-rico.jpg
http://www.fpractica.com/gallery/albums/NATURALIA/rocas_de_puerto_rico.sized.jpg
http://www.destination360.com/caribbean/puerto-rico/images/s/old-san-juan.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/10/8a/29/old-san-juan.jpg
http://www.atpm.com/10.05/puerto-rico/images/ponce-museo-castillo-serrales.jpg
I'm not a fan of areas where dengue fever is endemic.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 18:37
I'm not a fan of areas where dengue fever is endemic.
Dengue can be prevented by following several steps, especially not leaving water to settle in containers, or the like and by using bug spray when exposing yourself to the outdoors. There's not much to that.
Snafturi
23-07-2008, 18:54
I lived in San Juan for 2 years. Bottom line, I'm not a city mouse, I'm a country mouse. The massive quantities of people 24/7 drove me nuts. I went to other parts of the island as much as possible. It was less crowed, but still, I couldn't escape the people.
On the other hand, it's fun for a visit. I'd definately go back there. If I had the means, I'd spend one month a year in Puerto Rico. Mostly because I miss that cheese dip at the restaurant across from the Hilfiger store and the Transylvanian restaurant. And Quinones was pretty neat. So is Aricibo and Ponce.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:58
Holy smokes! Nanatsu is in the USA! Rowr! :D
Snafturi
23-07-2008, 19:04
Holy smokes! Nanatsu is in the USA! Rowr! :D
Yeah, but just as I'm leaving the US.:(
I've been to Mexico, so I've been to the Caribbean technically. I want to explore more islands and such there - and more beaches :)
Veblenia
23-07-2008, 19:14
I lived in Saint Kitts for a year and a half. The circumstances sucked; I was working for a new beach resort and it was going through some major opening pains. My ex-wife was also miserable. It was her idea to go down in the first place, but we very quickly discovered that she has no business living anywhere more than fifteen minutes from a Wal-Mart and a multiplex cinema. I, on the other hand, probably would have loved it had I been there on my own.
I'd go back. I don't know if I'd pick Saint Kitts particularly (somewhere more built up, like Barbados or Trinidad may be more my style) but I could definitely get into an island groove.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 20:19
I lived in San Juan for 2 years. Bottom line, I'm not a city mouse, I'm a country mouse. The massive quantities of people 24/7 drove me nuts. I went to other parts of the island as much as possible. It was less crowed, but still, I couldn't escape the people.
On the other hand, it's fun for a visit. I'd definately go back there. If I had the means, I'd spend one month a year in Puerto Rico. Mostly because I miss that cheese dip at the restaurant across from the Hilfiger store and the Transylvanian restaurant. And Quinones was pretty neat. So is Aricibo and Ponce.
Ahahaha, María's Bar:D. Their "burrito al plato" is awesome! Plus, I have gotten very drunk there several times while visiting grandma. Transylvania kicks ass for hanging out. The tenders are very gracious.
I lived for an entire year in PR, as an exchange student in the University of Puerto Rico, Río Piedras, and I had fun. I still have a lot of friends there. Piñones is cool too, especially the beach and the food. And Ponce is awesome if you hang out at La Guancha or visit the Serrallés castle and Hacienfda Buena Vista. My grandparents adore living in PR. I can't blame them.
Holy smokes! Nanatsu is in the USA! Rowr! :D
Yes Neo B, I'm currently (and for the next 2 weeks) in your side of the world, and more specific, on US soil.;)
I've been to Puerto Rico as well, I didn't think much of it...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 20:24
I've been to Puerto Rico as well, I didn't think much of it...
I like it, it's pretty. What I would do without is the heat.
Sirmomo1
23-07-2008, 20:26
I couldn't live somewhere like that, there's simply not enough to do.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 20:28
I couldn't live somewhere like that, there's simply not enough to do.
Oh, but there is indeed a lot to do. Nightlife there is excellent.
Yes Neo B, I'm currently (and for the next 2 weeks) in your side of the world, and more specific, on US soil.;)
Remember to clean it when you're done with it :salute:
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 20:30
Remember to clean it when you're done with it :salute:
Roger, sir!:salute:
Brutland and Norden
23-07-2008, 20:32
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Hi. As much as I like the pictures, they are breaking the page. Please use thumbnails before them mods mutilate your post! ;)
I'm not a fan of areas where dengue fever is endemic.
*injects you with Plasmodium falciparum*
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 20:34
Hi. As much as I like the pictures, they are breaking the page. Please use thumbnails before them mods mutilate your post! ;)
I'll put them in links then.:salute:
I like it, it's pretty. What I would do without is the heat.
Actually what I saw of it wasn't even pretty, but then I was there on holiday...
I was there as part of my job at the time (I was in the Marines at the time) and was unable to visit...
Snafturi
23-07-2008, 21:27
Ahahaha, María's Bar:D. Their "burrito al plato" is awesome! Plus, I have gotten very drunk there several times while visiting grandma. Transylvania kicks ass for hanging out. The tenders are very gracious.
I lived for an entire year in PR, as an exchange student in the University of Puerto Rico, Río Piedras, and I had fun. I still have a lot of friends there. Piñones is cool too, especially the beach and the food. And Ponce is awesome if you hang out at La Guancha or visit the Serrallés castle and Hacienfda Buena Vista. My grandparents adore living in PR. I can't blame them.
Yes Neo B, I'm currently (and for the next 2 weeks) in your side of the world, and more specific, on US soil.;)
Thanks for cleaning up my spelling, it's been too long.
I've been drunk at Maria's many times. They have that wonderful high-octane $6 drink that's not on the menu. Two of those would do me in.
Pinones is a great place to pick up knick knacks for cheap. Wonderful for Christmas shopping.
I slept of a very drunken night on a beach in Ponce. I was there for some festival. I so can't remember the name. All I remember was the drinking and the music. Lots of both.
Snafturi
23-07-2008, 21:28
Actually what I saw of it wasn't even pretty, but then I was there on holiday...
I was there as part of my job at the time (I was in the Marines at the time) and was unable to visit...
Stationed at Roosevelt Roads?
Stationed at Roosevelt Roads?
Nope, stopped there on mini-deployment, was there all of 2 days.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-07-2008, 21:38
Nope, stopped there on mini-deployment, was there all of 2 days.
He probably stopped either at Vieques or Culebra. Although those islands are pretty, the section where military excercises were carried out are pretty depressing. Or he might've been at Camp Santiago in Salinas, which is pretty dry too.
Snafturi
23-07-2008, 21:42
Nope, stopped there on mini-deployment, was there all of 2 days.
:( That's too bad.
He probably stopped either at Vieques or Culebra. Although those islands are pretty, the section where military excercises were carried out are pretty depressing. Or he might've been at Camp Santiago in Salinas, which is pretty dry too.
Vieques/Culebra is part of Roosey. I was stationed at Ft. Buchanan, but wasn't a stranger to Sabana Seca. Camp Santiago is where we'd do our land-nav, rifle qualifications and gas chamber training.
I was there for the Vieques incident. Or, the guy had already died and people were already on the bombing range. I was there during the removal and arrests. Ft Buchanan has the wonderful luck to be next to the federal prison, so we got a double whammy protest and security wise.
He probably stopped either at Vieques or Culebra. Although those islands are pretty, the section where military excercises were carried out are pretty depressing. Or he might've been at Camp Santiago in Salinas, which is pretty dry too.
All, I saw was the docks, so it wouldn't have mattered much. Also after almost twenty years I don't remember where exactly I was.
The Scandinvans
23-07-2008, 21:52
Only if I could gain the power to summon hordes of pirates who yield the deadly pancake of doom. *Nods*
I'd like to visit one of the Caribbean islands in the future....Don't where though...
Cosmopoles
23-07-2008, 22:24
I've never been, but my parents have been to Trinidad & tobago where my dad used to work as well as St Lucia and Barbados. There didn't seem to be a whole lot to actually do in these places other than drink cocktails and sunbathe but if that's actually what you're looking for then I can't imagine anywhere better.
Callisdrun
23-07-2008, 22:46
Would I visit there?
Yes.
Would I live there?
Never. Much too hot and humid.
Katganistan
23-07-2008, 22:54
I lived in San Juan for 2 years. Bottom line, I'm not a city mouse, I'm a country mouse. The massive quantities of people 24/7 drove me nuts. I went to other parts of the island as much as possible. It was less crowed, but still, I couldn't escape the people.
On the other hand, it's fun for a visit. I'd definately go back there. If I had the means, I'd spend one month a year in Puerto Rico. Mostly because I miss that cheese dip at the restaurant across from the Hilfiger store and the Transylvanian restaurant. And Quinones was pretty neat. So is Aricibo and Ponce.
:) MY grandmother was from Ponce. She lived across from the big tiled firehouse. Apparently she was quite the hellion as a kid and used to borrow people's horses and race them around the square.
My grandfather was from San Juan.
All, I saw was the docks, so it wouldn't have mattered much. Also after almost twenty years I don't remember where exactly I was.
Easy to see why you don't have an opinion of the place!
Snafturi
24-07-2008, 00:36
:) MY grandmother was from Ponce. She lived across from the big tiled firehouse. Apparently she was quite the hellion as a kid and used to borrow people's horses and race them around the square.
My grandfather was from San Juan.
How cool is that! All this talk of Puerto Rico makes me want to plan another visit.
Conserative Morality
24-07-2008, 01:44
Nah. The Caribbean is to warm and sunny. I live in the mountains, and prefer to stay away from the sun.:D
Maineiacs
24-07-2008, 03:09
¡Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos (casi), señorita Nanatsu!
Usted sabe, pensé que sentí que un cambio en la fuerza (se escapa).;)
También, por favor perdone mi gramática pobre.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
24-07-2008, 13:48
:) MY grandmother was from Ponce. She lived across from the big tiled firehouse. Apparently she was quite the hellion as a kid and used to borrow people's horses and race them around the square.
My grandfather was from San Juan.
Ah, Casa de Bombas of Ponce. It's the oldest in the Island if I'm not mistaken. Quite the landmark. I remember seeing it several times as a little girl when we went to visit my grandparents. They have refused to come back to Spain after the Civil War.
My grandparents live in San Juan. My brother has been living in Río Piedras since he entered college in 2001.
So, I assume you're of Puerto Rican decent. Cool.
¡Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos (casi), señorita Nanatsu!
Usted sabe, pensé que sentí que un cambio en la fuerza (se escapa).;)
También, por favor perdone mi gramática pobre.
No worries about the grammar. You're trying.;)
Katganistan
24-07-2008, 15:21
To be honest, Puerto Rican descent and also Sicilian-American. My great grandparents on my father's side came from Messina and Palermo in 1900 or so. My mom is a first generation NYer (she was born here) and my dad is a second generation NYer.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
24-07-2008, 16:12
To be honest, Puerto Rican descent and also Sicilian-American. My great grandparents on my father's side came from Messina and Palermo in 1900 or so. My mom is a first generation NYer (she was born here) and my dad is a second generation NYer.
Understood.
How cool is that! All this talk of Puerto Rico makes me want to plan another visit.
You should give me a tour!
Hammurab
24-07-2008, 17:37
To be honest, Puerto Rican descent and also Sicilian-American. My great grandparents on my father's side came from Messina and Palermo in 1900 or so. My mom is a first generation NYer (she was born here) and my dad is a second generation NYer.
Now I picture you as that super hot dark haired chick in Brotherhood of the Wolf, who winds up being an agent of the Vatican, and she slashes the gypsy chick with that cool fan-blade thingy....
Nanatsu no Tsuki
24-07-2008, 17:57
You should give me a tour!
Come on over, you two, and I'll give you a tour.;)
On the down-side, I'll only be here for 2 weeks.:(
Gabriel Possenti
24-07-2008, 18:01
I'd live in the caribbean if:
1) I could get past all the stupid gun laws.
2) I could have reliable power (preferably off the archaic, semi-functional power grid)
3) I could get broadband
4) I could have a bunker to move into with all the amenities and comforts of home when hurricanes and civil disturbances hit
5) I never went hungry
6) I had a female soulmate to share it with me
Is that so much to ask?
GP
Maineiacs
24-07-2008, 18:10
I'd live in the caribbean if:
1) I could get past all the stupid gun laws.
2) I could have reliable power (preferably off the archaic, semi-functional power grid)
3) I could get broadband
4) I could have a bunker to move into with all the amenities and comforts of home when hurricanes and civil disturbances hit
5) I never went hungry
6) I had a female soulmate to share it with me
Is that so much to ask?
GP
1) suck it up.
2) I'm fairly sure most areas do have electricity
3) no idea
4) civil disturbances aren't a problem everywhere, but as for hurricanes -- you're on your own.
5) most places have markets, too.
6) You're right, it's probably too much to ask.:D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
24-07-2008, 18:25
I'd live in the caribbean if:
1) I could get past all the stupid gun laws.
2) I could have reliable power (preferably off the archaic, semi-functional power grid)
3) I could get broadband
4) I could have a bunker to move into with all the amenities and comforts of home when hurricanes and civil disturbances hit
5) I never went hungry
6) I had a female soulmate to share it with me
Is that so much to ask?
GP
1) In most islands guns are permitted provided you have a license.
2) Electricity is not a problem unless you go to the Dominican Republic.
3) Broadband and wi-fi exist there, as well as cable and dial-up, you're covered..
4) Hurricaines aren't always a threat, civil disturbance aren't either. Instruct yourself first before posting, you have a powerful tool on your hand: THE INTERNET!
5) With an education and a job you won't go hungry.
6) Spouting nonsensical stuff like this, having a soulmate seems slim.:rolleyes:
Yootopia
24-07-2008, 18:46
Would I, a fairly well-off Briton like to live in the Caribbean?
Well yes :p
Sirmomo1
25-07-2008, 07:05
Oh, but there is indeed a lot to do. Nightlife there is excellent.
My idea of things "to do" covers more than nightlife
Trollgaard
25-07-2008, 07:10
No.
Don't like the beach. Don't like the heat. Wouldn't like to live on a small island.
Miami Shores
25-07-2008, 08:47
I'm currently visiting my grandparents who live in Puerto Rico since the 1970s. I haven't been to their house in 2 years and when I arrived yesterday, I became aware of the huge foreign population that lives on this Caribbean country. I was wondering why, and of course, the island nation is stunning. So, I wanted to ask NSG if any of you have been to the Caribbean, to which islands and your opinion of them. Would you live in any and why?
In the meantime, I'll leave you with a few photos of Puerto Rico. You're welcome to post any images of the Caribbean that you may have.
http://movilidad.universiablogs.net/files/playa-puerto-rico.jpg
http://www.fpractica.com/gallery/albums/NATURALIA/rocas_de_puerto_rico.sized.jpg
http://www.destination360.com/caribbean/puerto-rico/images/s/old-san-juan.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/10/8a/29/old-san-juan.jpg
http://www.atpm.com/10.05/puerto-rico/images/ponce-museo-castillo-serrales.jpg
A member of my family in Miami got interested in Genealogy. He recently found our family relatives in Spain, La Madre Patria. Now he is tracking family relatives in Puerto Rico. Then he plans to search for our family relatives in Uruguay and Argentina.
Sirmomo1
25-07-2008, 08:50
Would I, a fairly well-off Briton like to live in the Caribbean?
Well yes :p
Go on then?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
29-07-2008, 18:36
A member of my family in Miami got interested in Genealogy. He recently found our family relatives in Spain, La Madre Patria. Now he is tracking family relatives in Puerto Rico. Then he plans to search for our family relatives in Uruguay and Argentina.
You're Cuban-American, right?
The only family members of mine that live in Puerto Rico are my grandparents and my brother, who chose to attend college there. The rest live in Spain. I've been to Cuba. Beautiful island.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-07-2008, 18:42
My mother was born in Puerto Rico.
I've been there and to St. Thomas(which is an absolutely gorgeous island). My grandfather on that side was spanish and my grandmother was at least half Taino. According to my aunt, there's some spanish and african blood on that side of the family too. *nod*
The Northern Baltic
29-07-2008, 18:44
Miami is far enough South for me, thankyouverymuch.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
29-07-2008, 20:12
My mother was born in Puerto Rico.
I've been there and to St. Thomas(which is an absolutely gorgeous island). My grandfather on that side was spanish and my grandmother was at least half Taino. According to my aunt, there's some spanish and african blood on that side of the family too. *nod*
I was in St. Thomas on January and yes, I agree with you, it's a gorgeous island. So is St. Marteen.
I do have to point out that the Taíno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno#Spaniards_and_Ta.C3.ADnos) were wiped out from the Caribbean very early during the Spanish conquest. By the 18th. century, they were almost gone, on account of small pox and other European diseases.
The African blood it's very strong in the Caribbean. So is the Spanish blood, depending on the island.;)
Sel Appa
30-07-2008, 02:32
No, that's retarded. I want more snow, not less. Vermont, ho!
Maineiacs
30-07-2008, 03:28
I hate snow (you try dragging a wheelchair through a six-foot snowbank), but the summers up here are nice, so I think I just want a winter home in the Caribbean.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-07-2008, 03:50
I was in St. Thomas on January and yes, I agree with you, it's a gorgeous island. So is St. Marteen.
I do have to point out that the Taíno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno#Spaniards_and_Ta.C3.ADnos) were wiped out from the Caribbean very early during the Spanish conquest. By the 18th. century, they were almost gone, on account of small pox and other European diseases.
The African blood it's very strong in the Caribbean. So is the Spanish blood, depending on the island.;)
Let me put it this way: There are no more 100% pureblood Taino anymore. They're gone. :(
Nanatsu no Tsuki
30-07-2008, 16:03
Let me put it this way: There are no more 100% pureblood Taino anymore. They're gone. :(
Sad, but true.:(
Miami Shores
05-08-2008, 16:23
Family members of mine, a husband and wife left Cuba for the USA through Spain as a third nation. They looked up the family name in Madrid and found a family of descendants without much effort, which they then visited with.
Recently years later my other family member who got interested in genealogy found them and the rest of the family. As I said before, he called a family meeting at his home in Miami. To present us with the evidence he had gathered. There is proof, that 2 of our Spaniard ancestors emigrated to Cuba, 2, to ArgIentina, 1 to Puerto Rico, 1 Uruguay. As families were larger in those days.
Yes, I am a native born Cuban, now Cuban American Citizen. I have been to Puerto Rico twice. The fist time I went as a tourist. The second time I stayed with a Cuban friend and his family at his home, he is married to a Puerto Rican lady and they have 2 Cubaricanos Americanos.
Also I now have Puerto Ricans in the family in Miami through marriage, they have a Cubaricano, & Cubaricana americanos. So my ties to Puerto Rico are strong.
Miami Shores
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-08-2008, 16:26
Family members of mine, a husband and wife left Cuba for the USA through Spain as a third nation. They looked up the family name in Madrid and found a family of descendants without much effort, which they then visited with.
Recently years later my other family member who got interested in genealogy found them and the rest of the family. As I said before, he called a family meeting at his home in Miami. To present us with the evidence he had gathered. There is proof, that 2 of our Spaniard ancestors emigrated to Cuba, 2, to ArgIentina, 1 to Puerto Rico, 1 Uruguay. As families were larger in those days.
Yes, I am a native born Cuban, now Cuban American Citizen. I have been to Puerto Rico twice. The fist time I went as a tourist. The second time I stayed with a Cuban friend and his family at his home, he is married to a Puerto Rican lady and they have 2 Cubaricanos Americanos.
Also I now have Puerto Ricans in the family in Miami through marriage, they have a Cubaricano, & Cubaricana americanos. So my ties to Puerto Rico are strong.
Miami Shores
Great! I'm kind of sad. I leave tomorrow for Spain and I really don't want to go back. I had so much fun here. Perhaps I should come back for Christmas. Puerto Ricans have a lot of fun on Christmas.:D