NationStates Jolt Archive


The Ultimate Question

Leistung
23-07-2008, 04:17
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?
Barringtonia
23-07-2008, 04:18
The correct answer is: you look fat in any dress.
Gun Manufacturers
23-07-2008, 04:18
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?

42!

Oh wait, wrong ultimate question. :(
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 04:21
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?

I have no idea from personal experience, but I would guess the answer should ALWAYS be:

"You look lovely/beautiful/whatever!":D
Lunatic Goofballs
23-07-2008, 04:22
The proper response is to drop a smokebomb and dive down the escape hatch. *nod*
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 04:24
The proper response is to drop a smokebomb and dive down the escape hatch. *nod*

LG?!? I thought you would say something along the lines of "You'd look better in mud." and then give a sagely nod. You've disapointed me, and shattered my view of you. :(:D
New Wallonochia
23-07-2008, 04:24
What would you say is the ideal response (if indeed there is one)?

Drop a smoke grenade and run. If you manage to get away grab what belongings you can carry on your back and go start a new life at least a thousand miles away.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-07-2008, 04:24
LG?!? I thought you would say something along the lines of "You'd look better in mud." and then give a sagely nod. You've disapointed me, and shattered my view of you. :(:D

Where do you think the escape hatch leads?
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 04:25
Where do you think the escape hatch leads?

Oh. *Puts pieces of shattered view back together* Much better.:D
Leistung
23-07-2008, 04:25
I have no idea from personal experience, but I would guess the answer should ALWAYS be:

"You look lovely/beautiful/whatever!":D

Wrong.

The most common mistake in the book, but using the word "whatever" basically means that you think she does look fat in that dress. Tried and failed. :D
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 04:30
Wrong.

The most common mistake in the book, but using the word "whatever" basically means that you think she does look fat in that dress. Tried and failed. :D

When I said whatever, I MEANT "Insert whatever synonym for beautiful here" Howzat?
The Scandinvans
23-07-2008, 04:32
Don't say anything and instead stare at her for a couple of second. Then throw on some Axe Body Spray, she will jump on you, make sweat love, and all shall be good again.

*Disclaimer: If your girlfriend weighs over three hundred pounds do not do thing, unless if you willing to tolerate horrific body pains.*
Anti-Social Darwinism
23-07-2008, 04:34
Speaking as a woman, there is no correct answer to that question. But it is a question you must answer. This is the Catch 22 question found in all relationships. So once you get over the deer in the headlights moment, mumble something about her looking good in anything, then order flowers, take her to a nice dinner, take her shopping.
Gun Manufacturers
23-07-2008, 04:35
Don't say anything and instead stare at her for a couple of second. Then throw on some Axe Body Spray, she will jump on you, make sweat love, and all shall be good again.

*Disclaimer: If your girlfriend weighs over three hundred pounds do not do thing, unless if you willing to tolerate horrific body pains.*

WTF is sweat love? Is that anything like perspiring while making sweet love? :p
The Scandinvans
23-07-2008, 04:37
WTF is sweat love? Is that anything like perspiring while making sweet love? :pSweat love is something that is along the lines of bed shaking.
Wilgrove
23-07-2008, 04:41
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?

I just tell her the truth. Whenever I start with someone new, I am upfront about how honest, open and blunt I am.
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 04:51
I am a girl. And this is how my fiance got over this test (I am very self-conscious, and have learned not to be around him for this reason):

I asked the question as we were going out to meet his parents for the first time. He stood, looking me straight in the eye the whole time, and kissed me.

Then he said I'd look better without the clothes, but he said I made them look good, so he'd overlook it.

And yes, I looked hideous. :P
Barringtonia
23-07-2008, 04:56
I am a girl. And this is how my fiance got over this test (I am very self-conscious, and have learned not to be around him for this reason):

I asked the question as we were going out to meet his parents for the first time. He stood, looking me straight in the eye the whole time, and kissed me.

Then he said I'd look better without the clothes, but he said I made them look good, so he'd overlook it.

And yes, I looked hideous. :P

Later, having told his friends, he ended his anecdote with 'got a fantastic blowjob out of it as well boys, learn from the master'.

All nodded wisely.

No, I'm sure he's a sweet n' loving chap.
Ryadn
23-07-2008, 04:57
"No." But not too swiftly. Actually look at her. But don't look TOO long, as if you're trying to decide. Glance at her, smile, and with an air of amusement and hopeless adoration say, "No. I can't even imagine that would be possible."

If she still complains the dress is making her feel fat, suggest she take it off. ;)
Potarius
23-07-2008, 04:59
Later, having told his friends, he ended his anecdote with 'got a fantastic blowjob out of it as well boys, learn from the master'.

All nodded wisely.

No, I'm sure he's a sweet n' loving chap.

Lawl.

OH LAWD NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX CHARACTERS PER POST.
Straughn
23-07-2008, 04:59
The correct answer is: you look fat in any dress.
Za-zing
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 05:01
No, I'm sure he's a sweet n' loving chap.

Absolutely, he is. After 3 and a half years of training. :P

And come on, he has to work a lot harder for THAT kind of a reward. Like sending flowers to me at work, or calling and inviting my mom to dinner. :D
Hamilay
23-07-2008, 05:03
Uncyclopedia to the rescue! (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnBooks:The_Complete_Idiot%27s_Guide_To_Talking_To_Women#Does_this_make_me_look_fat.3F)
Barringtonia
23-07-2008, 05:05
.... or calling and inviting my mom to dinner. :D

Friendly family you have there.
Potarius
23-07-2008, 05:05
calling and inviting my mom to dinner. :D

Are you suggesting a threesome between you? That's disgusting.
Straughn
23-07-2008, 05:07
Friendly family you have there.That reminds me of a few pregnancy jokes i've been telling people of late.
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 05:12
*blinks*

Since when did the NS population turn into disgusting 16 year olds?

No. Reward means he has to be good. All the way through. Fun comes later.

Maybe guys should work on open and honest communication, not base relationships on lies? And girls should realize that if they ask a question, they need to be ready for the answer? It would make things go easier for everyone.
Potarius
23-07-2008, 05:14
*blinks*

Since when did the NS population turn into disgusting 16 year olds?


Maybe guys should work on open and honest communication, not base relationships on lies? And girls should realize that if they ask a question, they need to be ready for the answer? It would make things go easier for everyone.

1: Since when has it been any other way? (I'd use the tongue emoticon here, BUT THE NEW ONE SUCKS)

2: This is as I see it, and I agree completely.
Straughn
23-07-2008, 05:15
Since when did the NS population turn into disgusting 16 year olds?Perhaps if you had a few more than ... what's it say, "221" posts, you'd have taken note of it? :p
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 05:22
Perhaps if you had a few more than ... what's it say, "221" posts, you'd have taken note of it? :p

Since when should someone so cocky assume this is my first, and ONLY, nation when there is a 2 in my nation's title?
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 05:23
Since when should someone so cocky assume this is my first, and ONLY, nation when there is a 2 in my nation's title?

Ya musta had a Looooooooooong break, eh?
Lackadaisical2
23-07-2008, 05:24
I can't stand that question, I've just started telling her shes fat in the hopes she'll stop asking.
Neo Art
23-07-2008, 05:27
How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

The answer is, simply....

Of course not honey, nothing could make you look fat.
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 05:28
Ya musta had a Looooooooooong break, eh?

Sad, but true. Its been a few years. Most people don't remember my nation anyway. Danya?
Straughn
23-07-2008, 05:28
Since when should someone so cocky assume this is my first, and ONLY, nation when there is a 2 in my nation's title?Well, i don't have to assume you have more time for questions than answers, anymore than you would be assuming there's so many "16 year-olds" involved with your post, profound as it were. Natch.
You're welcome to tell me what else i assume, though, since it means less questions. :p
If you can, post it in lego form :p
Barringtonia
23-07-2008, 05:45
*blinks*

Since when did the NS population turn into disgusting 16 year olds?

There was a time when it wasn't?

No. Reward means he has to be good. All the way through. Fun comes later.

He's not a dog you know, though I'm sure you do, just sayin'
Nicea Sancta
23-07-2008, 05:54
"Hang on, let me take a step back so I can get it all in."
-Jimmy Carr
Katganistan
23-07-2008, 05:58
The ultimate answer: 42.

As for the dress question, there is no way to win that, except possibly by hurting yourself badly enough to go to the emergency room.

That's why I NEVER ask that question of my fiance. Of my best female friend, who will tell me the truth, yes. Of my better half, no way.

:p

The proper response is to drop a smokebomb and dive down the escape hatch. *nod*

LG?!? I thought you would say something along the lines of "You'd look better in mud." and then give a sagely nod. You've disapointed me, and shattered my view of you. :(:D

Even LG knows that he who turns and runs away lives to clown another day.
Straughn
23-07-2008, 05:58
The ultimate answer: 42.

As for the dress question, there is no way to win that, except possibly by hurting yourself badly enough to go to the emergency room.

That's why I NEVER ask that question of my fiance. Of my best female friend, who will tell me the truth, yes. Of my better half, no way.

:pWhat about instances with stripes, and "filling out"? Surely there's "wiggle room" in conversation for those circumstances?
Katganistan
23-07-2008, 06:04
What about instances with stripes, and "filling out"? Surely there's "wiggle room" in conversation for those circumstances?

YMMV, but unfortunately most of the ladies I know who ask this question are pissed at the answer NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
Dans le Noir 2
23-07-2008, 06:10
I stand by my position above. Girls shouldn't ask, and everyone should work to achieve honesty, without hurt feelings.

Its the only way to make it fair.

"Wiggle room?" You should, if you seriously think something is hideous, gently say it looks okay, but something else (use a specific outfit here, or she'll know you aren't paying attention) would look better. Or simply tell her she's gorgeous, even if her clothes aren't. But use "nice words." Whatever makes sense for your relationship with the askee.
Barringtonia
23-07-2008, 06:11
YMMV, but unfortunately most of the ladies I know who ask this question are pissed at the answer NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.

See, these questions, if one's really going to take the smallest of time, can be pre-empted by actually noticing her clothes, it takes a small portion of the brain to memorise what she wears now and again. At the most, I've found, I need to have about 5 dresses/tops/etc., in my head at any time.

One can then say, before she even asks, 'oh, I love that dress', or if she does ask about her dress you can say, 'to be honest, I prefer the blue one with the collar but that's just me, it looks lovely as usual'.

It doesn't matter what you actually think, the fact that you know one other dress is often amazing enough.
Eofaerwic
23-07-2008, 10:47
I tend to be bluntly honest with my girlfriends on this, and ask the same in return. Although I have been known to comment that said dress would probably look better on me :D. May be a women thing though, being told a dress doesn't look good on you comes better from another women, even if you are dating them. Either that or we know how to couch the response so that it doesn't seem too insulting.
Cabra West
23-07-2008, 10:55
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?

Just goes to show how limited the male mind is...

Answers like "I don't think you ever look fat", "Of course you don't" or "No, why would you?" never occured to a man, I guess.
Calarca
23-07-2008, 11:09
the only time I've been asked that all I said was "It'd look better on the bedroom floor."

she just giggled and blushed :D

shortly after it was on the bedroom floor.
Wilgrove
23-07-2008, 11:36
The answer is, simply....

Of course not honey, nothing could make you look fat.

Well now comon. She already knows the answer to that question, and yes she is looking for reassurance. But if it was a fat woman, I'm not going to lie to her.

Wilgrove: An honest (single) man. :D
Articoa
23-07-2008, 12:41
"Do I look fat in these pants?" The answer is:

"No. It's the shirt." :)
Lackadaisical2
23-07-2008, 12:45
Just goes to show how limited the male mind is...

Answers like "I don't think you ever look fat", "Of course you don't" or "No, why would you?" never occured to a man, I guess.

those only work if you're good at lying... and to think that men haven't thought of or tried these answers is retarded, just cause you've dated honest people, doesn't mean they didn't think to bullshit you.
SoWiBi
23-07-2008, 13:13
WTF is it with all the "Nah, you always look gorgeous" or "Do *action* that'll make her feel loved and forget the question" answers?

It's either

a) A manipulative question that neither wants nor deserves an actual answer except for maybe an explanation as to why this is manipulative crap and thus to be ceased, or

b) An honest question that deserves an honest answer. No amount of mirrors can substitute an "external eye", and when I ask such things, I want to know a real answer in order to help me decide whether to buy/wear that piece of clothing.


Oh, and this is coming from a woman who loves to be complimented and needs reassurance of how gorgeous her loved thinks she is.
Peepelonia
23-07-2008, 14:49
The correct answer is: you look fat in any dress.

Nope it clearly is not. I have my 18th wedding anversary coming up on Monday, and my wife and I had this one out years ago.

The correct answer is always 'no darling, you look loverly' Even if it is a big fat lie, it's what they want to hear, if they want the truth of how they do infact look in that dress, then they go ask a girlfreind. Husbands and parnters, just say no, for Gods sake, no!
Katganistan
23-07-2008, 15:15
Well now comon. She already knows the answer to that question, and yes she is looking for reassurance. But if it was a fat woman, I'm not going to lie to her.

Wilgrove: An honest (single) man. :D

There's such a thing as being too blunt.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 15:20
Oh, I'm sorry, did you ask me if your ass was fat? Do me a favor and lose five pounds immediately or get out of my building like now!
Nafari
23-07-2008, 15:24
This whole discussion is dumb. The correct answer is simply: No.
Katganistan
23-07-2008, 15:26
There's such a thing as being too blunt.

Oh, I'm sorry, did you ask me if your ass was fat? Do me a favor and lose five pounds immediately or get out of my building like now!

See? :cool:
Soldnerism
23-07-2008, 15:32
As I have found in my relationship with my wife, she doesn't believe me when I say she looks good in a dress and gets mad when I say something bad about how she looks.

Typical Catch 22 for any one.

I try to find a way to make her say what she thinks before I give an answer; this however rarely happens successfully.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 15:35
Guys, guys, guys... Ya gotta show a little creativity here. It's not enough just to say "no" because she'll never know if you really mean it or if you're just saying it.

When my wife comes out and asks me a question like that, I stop what I"m doing, and I look at her lustfully. I lick my lips subtly and get up as if to pounce upon her. I then go toward her and remove the dress/whatever from her and take her hungrily. (If there isn't time for a full session, just kiss her deeply and passionately and make her wish there WAS time.)

Do this, and she will know you find her sexy, which will be a far better response to the question.

:D
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 15:45
Guys, guys, guys... Ya gotta show a little creativity here. It's not enough just to say "no" because she'll never know if you really mean it or if you're just saying it.

When my wife comes out and asks me a question like that, I stop what I"m doing, and I look at her lustfully. I lick my lips subtly and get up as if to pounce upon her. I then go toward her and remove the dress/whatever from her and take her hungrily. (If there isn't time for a full session, just kiss her deeply and passionately and make her wish there WAS time.)

Do this, and she will know you find her sexy, which will be a far better response to the question.

:D

Sure you do.

If you're wife doesn't believe that you find her sexy to begin with, and requires constant reminders, you're already in deep trouble.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 15:57
Sure you do.

If you're wife doesn't believe that you find her sexy to begin with, and requires constant reminders, you're already in deep trouble.

Unless she just plain LIKES the way I respond.

...But you didn't think of that possibility, did you? It's just too easy to put the ol' brain on hold and just take more personal shots, right?

Do try and grow up.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 16:00
Unless she just plain LIKES the way I respond.

...But you didn't think of that possibility, did you? It's just too easy to put the ol' brain on hold and just take more personal shots, right?

Do try and grow up.

You're the one who brought up your personal behavior in your post. Bringing it up makes it fair game to criticize.

Don't have to put anything on hold.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 16:07
You're the one who brought up your personal behavior in your post. Bringing it up makes it fair game to criticize.

Don't have to put anything on hold.

meh. This isn't worth my time.

/pissing match
RhynoD
23-07-2008, 16:07
The answer depends on your relationship to said woman:
Do you want poon?: "You look fantastic!"
Do you want her to shut up and leave?: "You betcha."
Married, so you'll want poon later but at the moment you're not interested?: "I refuse to answer on grounds that there is no correct answer."
Conserative Morality
23-07-2008, 16:44
Just goes to show how limited the male mind is...

Answers like "I don't think you ever look fat", "Of course you don't" or "No, why would you?" never occured to a man, I guess.

Whatever happened to honesty?

Oh, and we've tried that. Woman ALWAYS think we're lying.:D
Dreamlovers
23-07-2008, 16:58
I'd say she looks fabolous. But I don't really have a girlfriend since I'm a gay but that is what I'd say if I had one.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 17:00
I'd say she looks fabolous. But I don't really have a girlfriend since I'm a gay but that is what I'd say if I had one.

So my question is this:

Do gay men ever have to deal with this sort of thing?
Peepelonia
23-07-2008, 17:03
So my question is this:

Do gay men ever have to deal with this sort of thing?

And my question is this: Is the word Fabulos over used by gay men?
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 17:24
I think that people who ask "do gay men..." are closeted homosexuals.
Dreamlovers
23-07-2008, 17:25
So my question is this:

Do gay men ever have to deal with this sort of thing?

Yeah, there are lots of insecure gay men. But if the person who asked really looks fat we're the first one to say.

And my question is this: Is the word Fabulos over used by gay men?

No.:fluffle:
http://blog.vh1.com/files/2008/06/med_ny_fabulous.gif
Sparkelle
23-07-2008, 18:12
Dude you have two options :
Yes, you look fat
or
No, you do not look fat

Come on how easy is this question? Never call your woman fat!
New Genoa
23-07-2008, 18:15
Dude you have two options :
Yes, you look fat
or
No, you do not look fat

Come on how easy is this question? Never call your woman fat!

But what if she is?
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:15
I think that people who ask "do gay men..." are closeted homosexuals.

Jealous?
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:21
Jealous?

Hardly. You're the one who keep asking questions about homosexuals.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:25
Hardly. You're the one who keep asking questions about homosexuals.

I do? Really? I see... one.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:28
I do? Really? I see... one.

You've asked in other threads (two others that I can think of).
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:31
You've asked in other threads (two others that I can think of).

Ohhh... ok so... I ask questions about something I have no knowledge of, with the intention of understanding things I can't relate to, so your conclusion is that I'm a closeted homosexual. Got it.

I guess I could just take your approach, where I just make up a whole lot of bullshit and try to pass it off as the truth... But somehow that just seems.. I dunno... dishonest.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:31
Here's another one Neo Bretonnia.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13819107&postcount=1

If I was your wife, I would be thinking you're a closeted homosexual.
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 18:33
I think that people who ask "do gay men..." are closeted homosexuals.

That's funny, I think people who bother to give a shit about others' homosexuality and broadcast their concern are latent themselves.

Or have nothing better to do.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:33
Here's another one Neo Bretonnia.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13819107&postcount=1

If I was your wife, I would be thinking you're a closeted homosexual.

You mean this little pissing match was actually important enough to you to go looking for that? That's just too awesome.

Like I said, you and I just have different approaches. When I don't know something, I just ask. When you don't know something, you just make it up.
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 18:34
Here's another one Neo Bretonnia.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13819107&postcount=1

If I was your wife, I would be thinking you're a closeted homosexual.

What is wrong with you?
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:34
That's funny, I think people who bother to give a shit about others' homosexuality and broadcast their concern are latent themselves.

Or have nothing better to do.

I've wondered about that myself.

Maybe that's why he's riding my ass.

(Get it? riding my ass! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D)
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:34
That's funny, I think people who bother to give a shit about others' homosexuality and broadcast their concern are latent themselves.

Or have nothing better to do.

Sorry to disappoint, I'm a bisexual, and have never made it a secret to anyone.

It's even on my security clearance paperwork.

Neo, on the other hand, has plenty of reasons to hide it.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:35
What is wrong with you?

I've asked him that too.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:36
Sorry to disappoint, I'm a bisexual, and have never made it a secret to anyone.

It's even on my security clearance paperwork.

Neo, on the other hand, has plenty of reasons to hide it.

Oh no, wait this is too good... So, you wanted me to believe earlier that you're some kind of uber Pentacostal Christian zealot who converts Mormons like the rest of us eat Doritos, and now you say you're openly bi...

Oh, gawd this never gets old. In fact, this is fantastic!
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:36
You mean this little pissing match was actually important enough to you to go looking for that? That's just too awesome.

Like I said, you and I just have different approaches. When I don't know something, I just ask. When you don't know something, you just make it up.

I'm not making it up. You're the one posting a whole thread that reads like an attempt to find a homosexual date.
Smunkeeville
23-07-2008, 18:36
"do I look fat in this?"
"you look better naked"

:)
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 18:37
Sorry to disappoint, I'm a bisexual, and have never made it a secret to anyone.

It's even on my security clearance paperwork.

Neo, on the other hand, has plenty of reasons to hide it.

Okay, next question.

Why do feel compelled to act like an asshole?
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:37
Besides Neo, this isn't a pissing match.

Here on NS, if you make the claim that you only asked questions about homosexuality in "this" thread, I'm expected - nay - required to find a link to another thread to prove you wrong.

And you have been proven wrong - by your thread, not my imagination.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:38
I'm not making it up. You're the one posting a whole thread that reads like an attempt to find a homosexual date.

You're just mad because I haven't asked you out, aren't you?

Now it all makes sense...

Oh please... more. Give me more to copy & paste so people will believe me when I tell this tale later...
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:38
Okay, next question.

Why do feel compelled to act like an asshole?

I'm not being an asshole. If he posts an obviously false statement like "only one" thread that he's ever asked about homosexuals, then it's required that I post a link to an entire thread where he's asking the questions about homosexuals.

Everyone on NSG does it, including you.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:39
Love that thread title, "I need a gay person." Kinda sums it up.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:40
I'm not being an asshole. If he posts an obviously false statement like "only one" thread that he's ever asked about homosexuals, then it's required that I post a link to an entire thread where he's asking the questions about homosexuals.

Everyone on NSG does it, including you.
Besides Neo, this isn't a pissing match.

Here on NS, if you make the claim that you only asked questions about homosexuality in "this" thread, I'm expected - nay - required to find a link to another thread to prove you wrong.

And you have been proven wrong - by your thread, not my imagination.


Actually, I never said only one thread. (Which you put in quotes as if I did... hm.) I only asked one such question in this thread.

But hey why let something like the truth get in the way.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:42
Love that thread title, "I need a gay person." Kinda sums it up.

I did need one. But if your mind is so locked into the gutter that such a statement can only mean one thing... That's hardly my fault.
Amasea Perpetua
23-07-2008, 18:42
Speaking as a woman, there is no correct answer to that question. But it is a question you must answer. /snip

Speaking as a woman, I think it depends on the woman. I know some for whom there is no correct answer, because what they're looking for isn't an opinion, it's a fight.
Personally, I've never asked that question to a boyfriend, because I know the chaos it can induce in the male mind. However, I'd hope that if I ever did ask that question, I'd get an honest, if carefully phrased answer. i.e. "It's not the most flattering dress you own; perhaps you could wear that green one I like so much instead?"
Ordinarily I decide myself whether something makes me look good (or fat), but if I'm really waffling, someone else's honest opinion is appreciated.
Also, not from personal experience, but aren't there guys who WANT their woman to look fat?
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:42
Actually, I never said only one thread. (Which you put in quotes as if I did... hm.) I only asked one such question in this thread.

But hey why let something like the truth get in the way.

Stop falling in love with me, Hotwife. I'm taken :D

You said you've only asked in this thread.

Now you're trying to weasel out of how many times you've asked about homosexuals.

Love that egg on your face, btw.
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 18:43
I'm not being an asshole. If he posts an obviously false statement like "only one" thread that he's ever asked about homosexuals, then it's required that I post a link to an entire thread where he's asking the questions about homosexuals.

Everyone on NSG does it, including you.

But it doesn't require you to post spurious comments about his orientation. Has he ever posted anything that suggests he hates gays? If not, then what's the point of suggesting that he is, unless it's to flamebait?

I have to ask again, why are you acting like an asshole? I have no problem with your disagreement. I take issue with how you choose to disagree.

He's curious about homosexuals. So what? There's enough rumor, lies and urban legend about gay people to fill the Focus on the Family auditorium ten times over. What's so wrong with looking for peer-generated answers to his questions?
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:44
But it doesn't require you to post spurious comments about his orientation. Has he ever posted anything that suggests he hates gays? If not, then what's the point of suggesting that he is, unless it's to flamebait?

I have to ask again, why are you acting like an asshole? I have no problem with your disagreement. I take issue with how you choose to disagree.

He's curious about homosexuals. So what? There's enough rumor, lies and urban legend about gay people to fill the Focus on the Family auditorium ten times over. What's so wrong with looking for peer-generated answers to his questions?

I'm not saying it's wrong to ask. I'm saying that I think he's a closet homosexual. Which is a bad thing, and really, I feel sorry for him.

That's hardly flamebait.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:45
You said you've only asked in this thread.

Now you're trying to weasel out of how many times you've asked about homosexuals.

Love that egg on your face, btw.

Show me.
Neesika
23-07-2008, 18:45
What a bizarre conversation.
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 18:46
I'm not saying it's wrong to ask. I'm saying that I think he's a closet homosexual. Which is a bad thing, and really, I feel sorry for him.

That's hardly flamebait.

It is when it's not a legitimate reaction to his posts. You're trying to rationalize acting badly, and you're only making the matter worse by weaseling out of it.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:46
What a bizarre conversation.

Normally I wouldn't indulge the little troll but I'm kinda bored and I had a bit too much caffeinated cola at lunch today :D
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:46
Show me.

I showed you your thread. You're denying you posted it?

"Homosexual activity is a serious sin. If you find your-self struggling with same-gender attraction, seek counsel from your parents and bishop. They will help you."
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:48
I showed you your thread. You're denying you posted it?


Dance for me, troll. Dance.

I said show me, as in where I said I only asked in this thread, as you accused me of doing.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:50
It is when it's not a legitimate reaction to his posts. You're trying to rationalize acting badly, and you're only making the matter worse by weaseling out of it.

He knows perfectly well what he's doing. I think he gets off on the confrontation, which means I'm sorta enabling him by continuing to reply but I'm having fun ;)


I should stop though.
Hotwife
23-07-2008, 18:52
Hardly. You're the one who keep asking questions about homosexuals.
I do? Really? I see... one.

It doesn't say "one in this thread".

It says "one".

I've seen you post entire threads about homosexuals.
Gun Manufacturers
23-07-2008, 18:56
The ultimate answer: 42.

Already said it: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13859093&postcount=3 :p
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 18:56
It doesn't say "one in this thread".

It says "one".

I've seen you post entire threads about homosexuals.

Are you serious? So wait... hard to type... when laughing...

Ok so unless I specify "no other threads" you assume I mean other threads, but when you don't specify other threads I am to assume you do...

Dance more for me. Keep going. I should totally blog this.
Sirocco
23-07-2008, 19:05
New Bretonnia and Hotwife: knock it off. This forum is for reasoned debate not sniping about each other's sexuality. Which isn't even anything to do with the topic of the thread.

So keep on topic and keep off each others' backs.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 19:15
New Bretonnia and Hotwife: knock it off. This forum is for reasoned debate not sniping about each other's sexuality. Which isn't even anything to do with the topic of the thread.

So keep on topic and keep off each others' backs.

Acknowledged.
Yountavia
23-07-2008, 19:20
She is fishing for a compliment and the correct answer is ALWAYS no. Acting quite hearing impaired helps as well...
Der Teutoniker
23-07-2008, 19:27
I refer, of course, not to God's existence or the question of "will Bill Clinton ever shut up," but rather the question which has boggled the male mind for eons:

How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Myself, I just accept that it's over. No matter what I say, there's no way of recovering from that kind of romantic fallout. What would you say is the idea response (if indeed there is one)?

I respect my (wife, actually) girlfriend with all my heart. That being said, honesty is such an important part of our relationship, that being said the right answer is always 'no' and if an answer is the right answer... is "isn't" a lie.

Really though, it depends, if it really really expands her, I would let her know, because I know she would not want to be in public not looking good, and she does value my honesty... though I don't have much fashion sense, so she doesn't ask often.
Ifreann
23-07-2008, 19:27
Why would I be dating her if I thought she was fat?
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 19:45
Why would I be dating her if I thought she was fat?

You never know... some people like it that way.
Ryadn
23-07-2008, 19:56
What a bizarre conversation.

And it developed so quickly. Usually it takes at least 5 pages to get totally off-topic.
Neo Art
23-07-2008, 19:57
And it developed so quickly. Usually it takes at least 5 pages to get totally off-topic.

'tis truly dizzying in its efficiency.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 20:03
'tis truly dizzying in its efficiency.

Caffeine & sugar. It's how stuff gets done!
Ifreann
23-07-2008, 20:09
You never know... some people like it that way.

In that case I could, presumably, tell her that I found her rather attractive.
Neo Bretonnia
23-07-2008, 20:12
In that case I could, presumably, tell her that I found her rather attractive.

In the hopes that she takes it well.
Mirkai
23-07-2008, 21:49
"You look beautiful no matter what you wear." is the default fluff answer.

You can also say "No, in fact, I think it <compliments your perfect figure; brings out the color in your eyes; goes with your shoes."
Intangelon
23-07-2008, 21:54
Nobody who knows me would ask me a question to which they didn't want my answer.

"Does this dress make me look fat?"

"Nope. The extra 30 pounds have got that covered."

Sorry, but you're free to deceive yourself all you want; don't ask me to help.
The Shin Ra Corp
23-07-2008, 22:58
I'm a just go along the lines of "Did you hear that? I think the telephone is ringing. Yes, sure, that was indeed the telephone! What a nuisance," I give a an angered glance at the door. "to disturb us just amidst this important question. I'll be back in a minute!" and I dash out of the room, accompanied by a sceptical glance of hers, while the telephone is standing - silently, of course - on a table next to her.
Mirkana
23-07-2008, 23:41
The Talmud says that one should lie to keep the peace in one's house - implying that this includes when your wife asks you this question. Given that all these rabbis were married, I'm inclined to follow their advice.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 03:55
Personally, I've never asked that question to a boyfriend, because I know the chaos it can induce in the male mind.
This is the part where most guys are probably going to worship you.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:06
YMMV, but unfortunately most of the ladies I know who ask this question are pissed at the answer NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
Yeah, i think my experience mirrors this somewhat. Usedtacould, anywho.
Kinda messed up that i focus so much more on the face, eyes, and hair, normally.
I think a safe buffer, for me, is to dress as the pauper so she has something else to focus on than just herself :p
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:11
Or simply tell her she's gorgeous, even if her clothes aren't.That's usually the case anyway - it just doesn't help that i'm usually so facetious.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
24-07-2008, 04:26
"Take it off so I have some basis for comparison."
Bloodlusty Barbarism
24-07-2008, 04:32
I just tell her the truth. Whenever I start with someone new, I am upfront about how honest, open and blunt I am.

Well, there are two ways of looking at it.

THE LIAR'S PATH: Most relationships end as a mess of lying and deception: "It was just a week in Hawaii with my ex-boyfriend, it's not like we did anything!"
So you may as well start with lying and deception: "Honey, you'd look gorgeous in anything. You have nothing to worry about."

THE HONEST PATH: Most relationships end with bitter revelations and crushing insults: "I faked it every time, and yes you are smaller than him."
So you may as well start with some bitter revelations and crushing insults: "Honey, if the dress took 20 pounds off you, you'd still be a damn rhino."


Do whatever works for you.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:35
well, There Are Two Ways Of Looking At It.

The Liar's Path: Most Relationships End As A Mess Of Lying And Deception: "it Was Just A Week In Hawaii With My Ex-boyfriend, It's Not Like We Did Anything!"
So You May As Well Start With Lying And Deception: "honey, You'd Look Gorgeous In Anything. You Have Nothing To Worry About."

The Honest Path: Most Relationships End With Bitter Revelations And Crushing Insults: "i Faked It Every Time, And Yes You Are Smaller Than Him."
So You May As Well Start With Some Bitter Revelations And Crushing Insults: "honey, If The Dress Took 20 Pounds Off You, You'd Still Be A Damn Rhino."


Do Whatever Works For You.this. ^^^
Bloodlusty Barbarism
24-07-2008, 04:40
Maybe guys should work on open and honest communication, not base relationships on lies?

Guys do this so frequently because girl's don't:

...realize that if they ask a question, they need to be ready for the answer? It would make things go easier for everyone.

It would be nice, I admit.
To quote Hank Moody: "It would also be nice if I could fellate myself while farting the White Album, but I haven't quite mastered that yet."

If you wanna know the truth, once I'm dating a girl, she is the most gorgeous girl in the world. As far as I'm concerned, anyway. So generally when I smother her with corny compliments, I mean them.
I wait until after the breakup to feel embarassed and regret saying them in front of all those people...
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:45
I wait until after the breakup to feel embarassed and regret saying them in front of all those people...
Just post it here! No shame here whatsoever.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
24-07-2008, 04:50
Just post it here! No shame here whatsoever.

Eh I started a thread about best/worst relationship ever (I'm sure there've been a million... just hush...) so yeah. There. That's the place to be if you're into humiliating yourself by sharing your mistakes.

As for me, I'm turning in.
RhynoD
24-07-2008, 04:51
"Honey, if the dress took 20 pounds off you, you'd still be a damn rhyno."

Now, I do take offense, sir, I do.
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 04:51
How do you respond when your girlfriend asks you, "Do I look fat in this dress?"

Scream and run. Tip over furniture on the way out to prevent pursuit.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 04:54
Scream and run. Tip over furniture on the way out to prevent pursuit.NOT a bad idea at all!
Gun Manufacturers
24-07-2008, 05:21
You never know... some people like it that way.

http://www.thepeon.com/link.php?l=familyguyfatchicks
Dinaverg
24-07-2008, 06:34
I posit that you need to seem unprepared for the question.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 06:49
I posit that you need to seem unprepared for the question.It helps if you can fake some sneezing.
New Malachite Square
24-07-2008, 06:52
It helps if you can fake some sneezing.

If you've been in the same position for some time (say, watching television) you could feign death.
Alternatively, try to choke on something.
Dinaverg
24-07-2008, 07:00
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Dinaverg
24-07-2008, 07:00
That is to say, perhaps if you have a small explosive rigged in another room.
Straughn
24-07-2008, 07:14
If you've been in the same position for some time (say, watching television) you could feign death.Done that. Seriously. There *are* perks to people knowing you have sleep apnea.
Alternatively, try to choke on something.Same goes. *nods emphatically*
Hobabwe
24-07-2008, 10:10
There is no correct answer to that question.

Women: Please, don't ask us that, unless your trying to pick a fight, please. :)
Skyland Mt
24-07-2008, 10:12
Correct answer is the honest one.
Hammurab
24-07-2008, 10:19
Correct answer is the honest one.

"I care for you deeply, you've changed my life, I love you in new ways every day, but I really want to fuck your sister"?
Neo Bretonnia
24-07-2008, 13:39
There is no correct answer to that question.

Women: Please, don't ask us that, unless your trying to pick a fight, please. :)

That's why they ask now, brother.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
24-07-2008, 20:22
Now, I do take offense, sir, I do.

:$
My mistake...