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So, with the success of "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight", will there be a third Batman movie? I think so, and I think the third one will deal with "The Riddler". Personally I liked Jim Carrey's Riddler in "Batman: Forever". I wouldn't mind them casting Jim Carrey as the Riddler in this new movie series. What are ya'lls thought about the third Batman movie?

There will certainly be a third movie to cash in on the hype that will be generated by the fantastic 2nd film. Though I suspect they will try some darker form of the Riddler than Jim Carrey.

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Who will play the joker though, since the character lived but the actor died?

I suspect he will be replaced. Just like they replaced Mrs. Cruise.

Failing that they may just dump him and assume he's in Arkham.

Summer Glau as Catwoman, please. :D

There will certainly be a third movie to cash in on the hype that will be generated by the fantastic 2nd film. Though I suspect they will try some darker form of the Riddler than Jim Carrey.

Yea, but they have to make The Riddler's personality different from The Joker's personality.

Yea, but they have to make The Riddler's personality different from The Joker's personality.

Still, I doubt he will be as funny as he was in forever.

I wonder if they'll bring Scarecrow back, you did see him in one scene in "The Dark Knight".

They seem intent on making it so villains can be reoccuring.

While Jim Carrey's Riddler was very good, and seeing another Riddler in the series would be nice, I think the next villain is going to be Two-Face. I haven't seen The Dark Knight yet, but I did see part of Harvey Dent's face burned in one of the previews. Christopher Nolan is going for a more real approach to Batman, and Two-Face is a great character for realism and psychological turmoil. So I think the next villain in the new Batman series is going to be Two-Face.

While Jim Carrey's Riddler was very good, and seeing another Riddler in the series would be nice, I think the next villain is going to be Two-Face. I haven't seen The Dark Knight yet, but I did see part of Harvey Dent's face burned in one of the previews. Christopher Nolan is going for a more real approach to Batman, and Two-Face is a great character for realism and psychological turmoil. So I think the next villain in the new Batman series is going to be Two-Face.

Two face - prepare to be suprised when you see the film.

So, with the success of "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight", will there be a third Batman movie?
It's already contracted, I believe.

Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight

They've been filming Batman movies since 1943.
Oh yeah, they will ride this franchise into the ground.

So, with the success of "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight", will there be a third Batman movie?


Batman (1943)
Batman (1966)
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)

Honestly, I'd like to see the Penguin, largely because of how they're approaching the villains as aspects of Batman himself, so that the fight is essentially against himself.

The Penguin, then, is his Bruce Wayne, the careless rich boy persona that he has to create, the disregard, the privilege, is sort of personified in the Penguin, especially when you don't make him necessarily deformed but just an odd looking dude. Having him become that club owner that Batman can't really get to and who he eventually needs-where he finds he has to mitigate, that challenges his absolutes.

But Nolan, apparently, has said that he doesn't want to do Penguin because he's too unrealistic. But he really can be the most realistic villain Batman has.

But Nolan, apparently, has said that he doesn't want to do Penguin because he's too unrealistic. But he really can be the most realistic villain Batman has.
He's also, thankfully, said he will on no account allow a Robin character to be in his film.

He's also, thankfully, said he will on no account allow a Robin character to be in his film.

Eh I dunno though, I mean why couldn't he pull off a successful Robin like he did with Batman, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face?

I guess he thinks Robin is too "campy".

He's also, thankfully, said he will on no account allow a Robin character to be in his film.
At least there's that.
Eh I dunno though, I mean why couldn't he pull off a successful Robin like he did with Batman, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face?

I guess he thinks Robin is too "campy".

It's not that stage of the narrative for Batman. Nolan is doing the early Batman, and it never really makes sense to have Robin come in that early. Adding a Robin is a 'late in the career' kind of thing to ever really work. And if it can work is up for question. The only way I can think of for that character to be interesting is for it to be that kind of misplaced paternatal notion, that passing the torch...you get the idea.

Otherwise, it's a very thin and campy character.

I hear they're thinking of making a 4th Star Wars movie.....

I hear they're thinking of making a 4th Star Wars movie.....

They have. It's a movie version of Clone Wars.

Honestly, I'd like to see the Penguin, largely because of how they're approaching the villains as aspects of Batman himself, so that the fight is essentially against himself.

The Penguin, then, is his Bruce Wayne, the careless rich boy persona that he has to create, the disregard, the privilege, is sort of personified in the Penguin, especially when you don't make him necessarily deformed but just an odd looking dude. Having him become that club owner that Batman can't really get to and who he eventually needs-where he finds he has to mitigate, that challenges his absolutes.

But Nolan, apparently, has said that he doesn't want to do Penguin because he's too unrealistic. But he really can be the most realistic villain Batman has.

Which is really too bad -- because the last portrayal of the Penguin as a mutant freak rather than as a gentleman bandit SUCKED.

Eh I dunno though, I mean why couldn't he pull off a successful Robin like he did with Batman, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face?
Because, compared with the above, and in particular Bats himself, there's not a huge deal of substance to the character of Robin. Any themes that Robin can dredge up (loneliness, isolation, lack of family, revenge, etc.) can be dredged up by Batman instead.

For the most part, Robin is unnecessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_villains

Quite a list to chose from, and I'm sure if you stick to the Director's realism method then you could fairly well narrow it down to who it could be. Though, I for one hope for the Riddler. His demeanor and self-being it self is quite dark, and very sadistic. Could give his victims very strange questions before they die, and leave a very messed up pattern of clues for the Batman and detectives to work off of. Hell, even turn Batman into more of a Good-Evil kind of guy based off of his actions.

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Though, I'm not quite sure what he could work off of to get at Batman.. The only people he cares about that still live now are Gordon and his family, and Alfred. Maybe introduce a new love interest, or maybe even the character who will become Catwoman in a later installment or play maybe even a minor role in the "Third" one.

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Jim Carrey could even do a good job at pulling off the role again, but in this darker demeanor. I could perfectly vision his humor intermixed with a creepy Psychosomatic sort of mindset. ( I mean 'creepy', too.. and not some whack jobbed goofball like in Forever, I mean more like a "NO MOMMY DON'T DO IT AGAIN" creepy sort of way. )

EDIT: Come to think of it, Harley Quinn ( Joker's Girlfriend ) could make an appearance... Not actually being his girlfriend, but more or or less a female inspired by him to be equally as insane. Who knows, though.. I guess it's really endless, the possibilities that is.

I so wish there'd be a Batman vs. Mad Hatter sometime...

I just keep coming up with perfect ideas, but what about Zsasz?

He appeared shortly in Begins, even having came after Dawes, but he's "still at large" at the end of the film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsasz

EDIT: Alright, maybe not perfect.. but I like them. :3

EDIT 2: Though, back on the Riddler, the ever so not-reliable/yet reliable Wiki pulled from somewhere over the cybernets that David Tennant ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tennant ) has apparently expressed an interest in playing the role if such a role were ever to be cast.

Eh I dunno though, I mean why couldn't he pull off a successful Robin like he did with Batman, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face?

I guess he thinks Robin is too "campy".
Robin was created to tone down the Batman character. give him a 'fatherly' side.

the orignal dark night was supposed to be dark.

I'm glad they won't touch Robin.


to me, they failed with Ras Al Ghul.

In the comics, Ras figured out Batman's Identity by using simple detective work. and Ras had a code of honor. As long as it's Batman that comes after Ras, then it would be Batman Ras would fight.

perhaps the third movie could focus on Talia. Bruce's othe love interest. Ras' Daughter. It could touch upon the Lazarus Pits and the possible return of Ras...

Poison Ivy and Catwoman are potentials... but since they were also done in the earlier batman movies...

perhaps Clayface? with the CGI potential... and they could re-image Clayface to make him smarter, smoother and craftier than the comic and cartoon versions...

perhaps Clayface? with the CGI potential... and they could re-image Clayface to make him smarter, smoother and craftier than the comic and cartoon versions...

To be sure, the New Adventures version of Clayface is pretty good.

Clayface would be interesting in a film. I liked the mad hatter suggestion too...

Though, back on the Riddler, the ever so not-reliable/yet reliable Wiki pulled from somewhere over the cybernets that David Tennant ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tennant ) has apparently expressed an interest in playing the role if such a role were ever to be cast.
Oh gawd, no!

The last thing we need is a return to camp, ham-acted Batman.

Clayface would be interesting in a film. I liked the mad hatter suggestion too...

Batman with Clayface as the muscles and Hatter as the brains. Mmm...

Clayface is my favorite character, but if the guy said he wouldn't do Penguin because he is to unrealistic, I doubt Clayface has a shot...

Clayface is my favorite character, but if the guy said he wouldn't do Penguin because he is to unrealistic, I doubt Clayface has a shot...

Well comon, Two-Face in "The Dark Knight" was unrealistic. I mean if you have third degree burn on half of your face and you didn't get a skin graft, the chances of you catching some deadly is very high. Skin protect us from viral and bacteria infection.

Yay for Anatomy classes! :D

Well comon, Two-Face in "The Dark Knight" was unrealistic. I mean if you have third degree burn on half of your face and you didn't get a skin graft, the chances of you catching some deadly is very high. Skin protect us from viral and bacteria infection.

Yay for Anatomy classes! :D

To be sure, we don't know what kind of burn/reaction/etc that was.

nooooo i dont think they'll ever make another batman.

why would they? they have 2 excellent blockbusters made, why would they even consider making a 3rd?

There will certainly be a third movie to cash in on the hype that will be generated by the fantastic 2nd film. Though I suspect they will try some darker form of the Riddler than Jim Carrey.

Absolutely, I'm sure if you look at the Saturday morning cartoon/comic version of the Joker, you wouldn't get anything as dark as that found in Dark Knight... in fact, not even close.

The "Iconic" bad guys that work in the comicbooks aren't realistic (or dark) enough for the type of movies that the new batman movies are.

Clayface is my favorite character, but if the guy said he wouldn't do Penguin because he is to unrealistic, I doubt Clayface has a shot...
ah, but the original, and I do mean the original comic book clayface, was just a master of disguise.

Batman with Clayface as the muscles and Hatter as the brains. Mmm...
with the Penguin pulling the strings behind the scenes...

I hear they're thinking of making a 4th Star Wars movie.....

A 4th?
You do realize that there are already 6 of them, yes?

* Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
* Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
* Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
* Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977) - original title, Star Wars
* Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
* Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983)

Absolutely, I'm sure if you look at the Saturday morning cartoon/comic version of the Joker, you wouldn't get anything as dark as that found in Dark Knight... in fact, not even close.
You obviously haven't read The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns or Black Orchid, to name some notable appearances of the Joker. Moreover, Batman: TAS was, for what is on the surface a kiddies show, fairly dark at points.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Jokerkillingjoke.png

From what I've seen of Dark Knight, the Joker is very much based on Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's version in The Killing Joke (piccy above).

Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight

They've been filming Batman movies since 1943.
Oh yeah, they will ride this franchise into the ground.

With Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, they tried.

Remember the Lawyer who was made a public target by the Joker? "Kill this man in 60 min or a hospital blows up"?

He cleverly figured out the connection between Bruce Wayne and Batman.... I think that he may just end up being the Riddler eventually..... it would make sense. he could drop hinting riddles about the true identity of "The Bat Man" at scenes of his crimes.... all in an effort to nudge Bruce Wayne into his extorting blackmail plans....

Keep in mind that while Joker is in Arkham Asylum, Two-Face is yet to be dealt with, so we'll see a repeat performance from him in the next movie.

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I don't know why you guys keep talking about two-face -- he's bloody dead.

If you recall, Joker died in Batman (the first modern movie) so that's no guideline for what characters still exist.

If you recall, Joker died in Batman (the first modern movie) so that's no guideline for what characters still exist.
I think we can safely assume Batman Begins was a retcon.

If you recall, Joker died in Batman (the first modern movie) so that's no guideline for what characters still exist.

Batman Begins was a hit of the reset button...wasn't it?

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I don't know why you guys keep talking about two-face -- he's bloody dead.

It's a superhero movie. No one is dead until we are explicitly told they're dead, and sometimes not even then.

I liked the Dark Knight but I fear we are getting close to the two villain movies which I think help to drive the series into the ground. If they could keep Bats to one villain I think there is a lot room for continuation. As for Robin I think a "Tim Drake" Robin would be a better fit than a Dick Grayson. Have Tim figure out who Batman is based on clues in the public record...maybe a hacker. I vote Penguin for next villain..after all there is a power vacuum left in Gotham and a smart mind could fill that.

Ironically, in the first issue of Batman's own comic, he encountered the three villains who would really define his rogue's gallery and style-the Joker, the Penguin, and Catwoman, who I think was "The Cat" in Batman #1. The problem with the Penguin is that his great strength as a character is his harmless appearance. However, I'd like to see Sammo Hung tackle the role, especially since seeing the magnificent fight scene in the "Bird of Prey" episode of the first season of "The Batman".
The Riddler is largely the creation of the late Frank Gorshin, who took a minor villain and turned him into a major player, but modern versions-Carrey being the exception, have focussed on his tech-savvy, computer age abilities. I'd like to see Ed Norton take on the part, personally.

MAn I did not like that movie. And wtf is this quick reply thing?

Dude, the Dark Knight fucking owns.

Seriously fucking owns.

I can't wait to see another Batman movie!

Summer Glau as Catwoman, please. :D

Genius!

What about Deadshot as a possible villain fpr the third?

MAn I did not like that movie. And wtf is this quick reply thing?
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What about Deadshot as a possible villain fpr the third?

Sane, belongs to a different gallery, a grunt whose main skill is "I fire him with bullets now". I don't think he would work well.

It's a superhero movie. No one is dead until we are explicitly told they're dead, and sometimes not even then.

Plus Batman Begins did hit the Reset Button, as Meplhi said.

The Riddler I suppose could be best, him being tech savy as said before like a hacker or something along those lines.

Also, if they do a third, it's going to be alot about Batman avoiding the law as well as coming back from the brink as he nearly became a vigilante, out for revenge. It would involve him rexamining his purpose and battling with the death of his one love.

Another movie after record breaking returns? Definitely. Next villain? Catwoman.
After all, as Lucius told Bruce, his new suit armor would "protect him from a cat."

Plus Batman Begins did hit the Reset Button, as Meplhi said.

Well, I was just thinking of the end of The Dark Knight when they hold Dent's funeral. Some will conclude that he died from his fall, but it's far from clear and I'd say there's a definite possibility of Nolan keeping him alive for the next film.