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String or Standard?

RhynoD
20-07-2008, 01:59
I like String...it's very elegant. But Standard is more widely believed so what can you do.

Everyone loves theoretical Quantum Mechanical theories.
Ryadn
20-07-2008, 05:38
I like String...it's very elegant. But Standard is more widely believed so what can you do.

Everyone loves theoretical Quantum Mechanical theories.

Is this about phy--

*reads white text*

*is well pleased*

String!
Damor
20-07-2008, 16:33
I think I'd go with standard. I can't really say I find strings elegant. And to be honest you can't see much of 'm in the first place. It's just not practical; and they don't really seem to cover what matter.
It's hard to even call string theory science; it hasn't yielded any testable consequences yet. At least standard quantum mechanics works; you can use it.
Chumblywumbly
20-07-2008, 16:36
I like String...it's very elegant. But Standard is more widely believed so what can you do.
Provide something more tangible than, "if we assume there's loads of other dimensions, our maths fits!"

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/string_theory.png
Liminus
20-07-2008, 16:37
I prefer string, because it's been very well marketed and I, unfortunately, never ended up studying physics. *nod*
Pure Metal
20-07-2008, 16:40
string bikinis?

*leers*

*gets told off :-( *
RhynoD
20-07-2008, 20:22
I think I'd go with standard. I can't really say I find strings elegant. And to be honest you can't see much of 'm in the first place. It's just not practical; and they don't really seem to cover what matter.
It's hard to even call string theory science; it hasn't yielded any testable consequences yet. At least standard quantum mechanics works; you can use it.

String has some strong evidence mathematically.
Chumblywumbly
20-07-2008, 20:24
String has some strong evidence mathematically.
And what would that be?
RhynoD
20-07-2008, 20:26
And what would that be?

Don't ask me. I'm an English major.
Damor
20-07-2008, 20:35
String has some strong evidence mathematically.Err, that doesn't really work. I mean, it can be mathematically elegant, beautiful even; but that says absolutely nothing about it's validity as a physical theory. I can't even really imagine what "mathematical evidence" should mean; maths isn't an empirical science, it isn't evidence-based.
Chumblywumbly
20-07-2008, 20:43
Don't ask me. I'm an English major.
It's my understanding that, of all the varied string theories out there (for there are so many), all are as yet only highly theoretical, and only make sense once we make a number of highly controversial assumptions.

For example most, if not all, of the string theories only 'work' once they assume there are multiple dimensions; upwards of ten!
Melphi
20-07-2008, 20:43
Err, that doesn't really work. I mean, it can be mathematically elegant, beautiful even; but that says absolutely nothing about it's validity as a physical theory. I can't even really imagine what "mathematical evidence" should mean; maths isn't an empirical science, it isn't evidence-based.

:eek: Are you claiming that the plumage don't enter into it?
Ifreann
20-07-2008, 20:45
string bikinis?

*leers*

I like the way you think.
RhynoD
20-07-2008, 20:46
It's my understanding that, of all the varied string theories out there (for there are so many), all are as yet only highly theoretical, and only make sense once we make a number of highly controversial assumptions.

For example most, if not all, of the string theories only 'work' once they assume there are multiple dimensions; upwards of ten!

13, actually. So far.

In the 9th dimension the electromagnetic force and the weak nuclear force are the same thing.
New Limacon
20-07-2008, 21:36
I only believe what the Holy and Literal Bible tells me. So I favor string.
Call to power
20-07-2008, 21:45
the one that has more excuses for being late for work
Maineiacs
20-07-2008, 22:26
"A brave little theory. And actually quite coherent for a system of five or seven dimensions -- if only we lived in one."
-- Academician Prokhor Zakharov, "Now We Are Alone" :D
Hotwife
20-07-2008, 22:29
Whichever theory gets me:

1) a practical time travel machine that fits in your home
2) a practical transporter (a la Star Trek) that fits in your home
3) a practical warp drive (or jump drive) that allows easy interstellar travel
4) a practical antigravity device that allows for simple flying cars
5) a practical, pistol-sized disintegrator
Maineiacs
20-07-2008, 22:52
Whichever theory gets me:

1) a practical time travel machine that fits in your home
2) a practical transporter (a la Star Trek) that fits in your home
3) a practical warp drive (or jump drive) that allows easy interstellar travel
4) a practical antigravity device that allows for simple flying cars
5) a practical, pistol-sized disintegrator

I believe you're looking for the Warner Brothers Theory. It has all the things you're looking for, including the disintegrator.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V-HmBUYkE48