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Zombies

South Lizasauria
18-07-2008, 23:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r9vmI4c2IY

I for one beleive that the above is either a parody or nonsense. What do you believe?

Fact or fiction?

Yet another amusing thread brought to you by SL the magnificent.
Conserative Morality
18-07-2008, 23:58
The only real kind of zombie is a caffiene zombie; someone who has not had their daily dose of caffiene. I've been one a few times.:)
South Lizasauria
19-07-2008, 00:00
The only real kind of zombie is a caffiene zombie; someone who has not had their daily dose of caffiene. I've been one a few times.:)

I have a rival who might qualify for a zombie. LOL. she's part of a cult so thats probably what she reminds me zombies.
Supergroovalistic
19-07-2008, 01:14
This is clearly a joke. Like this (http://65.127.124.62/south_asia/4483241.stm.htm).
The Romulan Republic
19-07-2008, 10:33
Depends. There are, I believe, drugs that can replicate a zombie-like effect, like the person seems dead and then wakes up later. Their are also drugs that can remove a person's free will. So technically Zombies aren't real, but there's truth to the myths, for sure.

This particular video, though, is clearly a work of fiction.
Cameroi
19-07-2008, 13:04
i guess it really comes down to defining your terms but self animated bones and 90% of remaining flesh putrified, with less then30% of origeonal flesh remaining, acting en mass acording to some preditory herd instinct, itself, pretty much widely otherwise considered something of a contradiction, and tag your it, touched by one you become one, even a majority of those elements without having to be all of them, no, not bloody, nor bloodlessly likely.

there are drug induced atomical behavior, and persons in that state displaying vital signs at low enough levels to be readily mistaken for dead, that does exist, and is known to be done as/for a religeous experience and sometimes political ones. THAT's real enough, but compared to what people usually seem to mean by zombies, the horror movie kind, these are two very completely different things. though the latter might seem somewhat close to as freaqie and scary as the former. still not the same though. not even close.

for one thing, the flesh of vodune fallowers in trance, is very much not at all putrified, and more over, is entirely very much all there. often with quite considerable physical streingth, which it is somewhat of a mystery where animated bones with only putrified flesh if any, would or could have any kind of physical strength at all.

=^^=
.../\...
Zainzibar Land
19-07-2008, 13:56
The only real zombies are the idiots who watch every reality show and shop everyday at the wal mart
The Remote Islands
19-07-2008, 15:35
Me? Personally, and for real, I believe in zombies. Too bad my dumb-as-shit mates refuse to prepare for a possible outbreak.
Saint Jade IV
19-07-2008, 15:49
After watching that footage, count me a believer. I'm sure some of those zombies are stalking my neighbourhood. It would explain the smell and the blood. Also the rapid disappearances. Moved away for work, sure.
Solyhniya
19-07-2008, 15:57
Thanks to Supergroovalistic, I followed that BBC link; holy shit, man!
[NS]Rolling squid
19-07-2008, 16:12
I don't think they are real per say, but it is still possible that something like the BBC link, which is a joke, could actually happen, so I'm prepared.
Soyut
19-07-2008, 16:28
Me? Personally, and for real, I believe in zombies. Too bad my dumb-as-shit mates refuse to prepare for a possible outbreak.

You know, the whole time I was watching 28 (unspecified amount of time)s Later, I was thinking, why don't these people have guns? Why didn't the millitary just start handing out Colt 45.'s so people could protect themselves? Like when that one zombie gets through the city barriers and bites all those people. Well if just one of those people had a rifle or something, anything....errr- :mad:
Yootopia
19-07-2008, 16:37
Rolling squid;13848826']I don't think they are real per say, but it is still possible that something like the BBC link, which is a joke, could actually happen, so I'm prepared.
AIEE!

Per se! Say it for me!
Yootopia
19-07-2008, 16:41
You know, the whole time I was watching 28 (unspecified amount of time)s Later, I was thinking, why don't these people have guns? Why didn't the millitary just start handing out Colt 45.'s so people could protect themselves? Like when that one zombie gets through the city barriers and bites all those people. Well if just one of those people had a rifle or something, anything....errr- :mad:
Because the British public doesn't know anything about guns and people would just get hurt an unnecessarily vast amount.

Also, try to tell me with a straight face that the US wouldn't also go batshit insane if there was a zomb outbreak. A panicky public armed to the teeth is a Bad Thing.
Adaptus Astrates
19-07-2008, 16:44
This is clearly a joke. Like this (http://65.127.124.62/south_asia/4483241.stm.htm).

Yeah, I believed that too when it first came out, then I noticed the date! So BBC News does have a (good) sense of humour!
Zombies are not real, but anyone who wishes to make contingency plans for what they call the "inevitable zombie apocalypse", go ahead just in case. Just do as the Sky News man says and we'll all be fine.
Unless something like Yonkers, or "World War Z" in general, comes true- which it won't. Hopefully.
Dyakovo
19-07-2008, 17:33
Зомби!!!
Der Volkenland
19-07-2008, 17:46
Зомби!!!

Наистина?
Conserative Morality
19-07-2008, 17:48
Because the British public doesn't know anything about guns and people would just get hurt an unnecessarily vast amount.

Also, try to tell me with a straight face that the US wouldn't also go batshit insane if there was a zomb outbreak. A panicky public armed to the teeth is a Bad Thing.

Better then a panicky public unarmed in almost all ways. In other words, I'd rather have a few million shot then tens of millions turned into Zombies. Which do you prefer?
Tree Stump
19-07-2008, 17:50
I think of all the places in the world, New Jersey is the most likely place for the Zombie outbreak to begin.
Conserative Morality
19-07-2008, 17:51
I think of all the places in the world, New Jersey is the most likely place for the Zombie outbreak to begin.

Meh. I say some unknown little town in the middle of nowhere. Like in Western maryland.:D
Ifreann
19-07-2008, 17:53
DOOM: Repercussions of Evil

John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.
"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the demons!"
So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the demons
"I will shoot at him" said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons"
And then John was a zombie.


That's all the proof I need.
Soyut
19-07-2008, 17:56
Because the British public doesn't know anything about guns and people would just get hurt an unnecessarily vast amount.

Also, try to tell me with a straight face that the US wouldn't also go batshit insane if there was a zomb outbreak. A panicky public armed to the teeth is a Bad Thing.

Yeah, you can't just learn how to fire a gun in one day. It takes years of special training. And even if you are careful with your gun, its going to go off on its own and kill someone eventually. And people who have morbid fascinations with guns are just insane. Thats the way it is with the gun club at my school. So far, everyone that we have taught to use a gun has violently erupted into a psychopathic mass shooter.
Ifreann
19-07-2008, 17:57
Gun debate in 3, 2, 1, GO!
Lucerners
19-07-2008, 18:10
The only real zombies are the idiots who watch every reality show and shop everyday at the wal mart

Although if people did some research they'd have known that it is an African
legend. And the "zombie" has merely been twisted by cinemas here in the US.
Yootopia
19-07-2008, 18:14
Better then a panicky public unarmed in almost all ways. In other words, I'd rather have a few million shot then tens of millions turned into Zombies. Which do you prefer?
Tens of millions of zombs, please. I'd rather the civilians hated their evil zombie foes than the rest of humanity.
Yeah, you can't just learn how to fire a gun in one day. It takes years of special training. And even if you are careful with your gun, its going to go off on its own and kill someone eventually. And people who have morbid fascinations with guns are just insane. Thats the way it is with the gun club at my school. So far, everyone that we have taught to use a gun has violently erupted into a psychopathic mass shooter.
...

Uhu, people who are in gun clubs at schools are doing so as a hobby, and are not in immediate threat of being killed by people previously their family members and all that. Also the US has a culture of firearms ownership.

Giving millions of civilians guns, especially the thick kind who read the Daily Mail and think that the world is out to get them is a Bad Thing in the UK. The government is here to deal with guns, not us.
Dyakovo
19-07-2008, 18:15
Наистина?

Sorry, I don't know that word...
Der Volkenland
19-07-2008, 18:17
Sorry, I don't know that word...

Bulgarian. На (on) истина (truth). It means 'Really?'
Dyakovo
19-07-2008, 18:25
Bulgarian. На (on) истина (truth). It means 'Really?'

Ah, it being Bulgarian would be a very good explanation as to why I didn't know it...
Conserative Morality
19-07-2008, 18:29
That's all the proof I need.

Is that by the guy who wrote Half Life: Full life consequences? :p
Ifreann
19-07-2008, 18:30
Is that by the guy who wrote Half Life: Full life consequences? :p

I don't know, so yes.
Conserative Morality
19-07-2008, 18:30
Tens of millions of zombs, please. I'd rather the civilians hated their evil zombie foes than the rest of humanity.

Too late for that.:D
Zilam
19-07-2008, 20:11
I pray that one day my entire university becomes a zombie apocalypse. 12,000 students, 8,000 towns people. 20,000 zombies. Plenty for me to have a fun time with.:mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::sniper::gundge::gundge:
Hurdegaryp
19-07-2008, 20:24
Thanks to Supergroovalistic, I followed that BBC link; holy shit, man!

Horrifying, isn't it? Now I've played quite a bit of Doom and Blood, but I don't know if that gives me enough experience to survive the Zombie Shockwave. Maybe I should invest in a decent axe and body armor.
Ashmoria
19-07-2008, 20:46
well i went to www.lostzombies.com and i think its a brilliant idea. i wish them great luck with it.
South Lorenya
19-07-2008, 20:51
Well, there's that Ratzinger guy...

Seriously, have you looked at ANY pic of him which dates back to the last forty or so years?

Also jolt changed the smileys, but they still have those gun smileys that get overused by noobs....
Nicea Sancta
20-07-2008, 05:52
My favourite are the philosophical zombies - beings that look, act and react exactly as humans do, but do not experience qualia. Most zombies are fairly useless, but p-zombies can serve as evidence against physicalism.
Salothczaar
20-07-2008, 06:46
Large injection of a certain chemical, i think its seratonin or something similar, will induce a zombie-like state. If enough is injected, then it becomes permanent.
Miami Shores
20-07-2008, 06:48
The only real kind of zombie is a caffiene zombie; someone who has not had their daily dose of caffiene. I've been one a few times.:)

I am an insomniac, thats why I am usually on Jolt-Co-Uk-NS forums most of the time at night. I guess that makes me a zombie, also part vampire. So I voted zombies are real.
Querinos
20-07-2008, 10:30
Seriously, people you want proof go to your local coffee shop and wait.

Ah fandom; I can see it now evolving into ZombieCon or LivingDeadCon. Nah, ZCon is more likely with LDARP.
Solyhniya
20-07-2008, 15:29
Large injection of a certain chemical, i think its seratonin or something similar, will induce a zombie-like state. If enough is injected, then it becomes permanent.

Consumption of the nerve agent STP can render the brain totally useless, whilst the person may still be alive. This can create real-life zombies, and with all the pain mounted on their heads, they can be just as angry. A lot of other drugs which sometimes get sold as street narcotics (e.g. STP being sold as LSD) can affect people in truly frightening ways.
SaintB
20-07-2008, 15:41
A Zombie is a voodo phenominon. A Zombie is a living person who has been poisend with certainc hemicals that make them appear dead and then afterward many people have so much brain damage caused by lack of oxegyn or perhaps the chemicals themselves that they exist in a more or less semi-conscious state where they can understand and obey orders but are hardly capable of thinking for themselves.


The creatures you refer to as Zombies are actually more appropriatly called "Shambeling Dead", "Undead", or perhaps "Ghouls"
Cascade States
21-07-2008, 22:21
Because the British public doesn't know anything about guns and people would just get hurt an unnecessarily vast amount.

Also, try to tell me with a straight face that the US wouldn't also go batshit insane if there was a zomb outbreak. A panicky public armed to the teeth is a Bad Thing.

If you look at all the crazy crap America has had happen, and how many times
" people went Bat shit"....

I think you'd find that We do just fine in any number of cases.

Most Americans, who own guns anyways. Are competent and reasonably skilled in the use and maintenance of,

Removing all your rights to own fire arms In the UK may work for the UK,
but here on our side of the pond we have done alright with our second Amendment.

Nope if there was a Movie like "zombie outbreak" in the USA, there would be
huge casualties in the first 1-3 days as a result of slow response from the government, but it's the people who would hold their own until the Army and
Marines arrived.
Homes with Guns also tend to have; food, water, batteries, hand tools and wood ( plywood and basic lumber ).

They'd board up, and pull an Alamo scenario.

The second amendment is a result of British behavior "in the colonies",
so it's kind of funny for Brit's to tell us why we shouldn't have fire arms.
Cascade States
21-07-2008, 22:34
but could you ( those who said this) be so stupid?

Have you ever read anything about tactics?

" I'd get a; Chainsaw, sword, ax, insert stupid hand weapon here "
and have fun....


You'd just become fodder for the Undead hoards...

the idea of tactics is simple,

Find out how our enemy fights,
Deny him the ability to use this method.

Discover what he needs,
Remove this where ever possible from his grasp.

Examine his weaknesses,
And exploit them at every opportunity.

If you fight a Dawn of the Dead type foe,

NEVER FIGHT HAND TO HAND!
YOU WILL LOOSE!

Take Head shots only, fight from above and alway have multiple exits usable to you only.

Force the opponent to crowd into closed spaces, confine and control them
use decoys ( boom boxes with recorded people on loud )

Use of Explosives / Incendiary devises should be used only in a most carefully
placed traps or ambushes.

Fire is a greater danger to you then them, There will be NO fire department
to save you.

Explosives will work, I don't care what you say...
Overpressure effects and the heat generated by the explosion will incinerate
a lot of mass.

But be absolutely sure that you've covered all the bases, if you screw up you'd be dead before they ate you.

Retreating to an Ocean going vessel, like the ones which are in every coastal,
river town in the world.
( bulk cargo ships, car carriers, container ships. )
Are like 20-80 feet tall and have no way to "scale" up the sides with out
the ramps or ladders being used. They make floating castles.
Mavenu
21-07-2008, 22:38
Thanks to Supergroovalistic, I followed that BBC link; holy shit, man!

sorry to alert you, but you should look at snopes first, you know... (http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/zombies.asp)
[NS]Rolling squid
21-07-2008, 23:01
<snip>


or you could just read the zombie survival guide.
Cascade States
21-07-2008, 23:12
And has little basis on tactics, or weapons selection.

Anyone who says " Guns don't need reloading... I'd take a machete"

Has never fired or owned a gun in their life.

From 100 yards, or meters if you're one of those;

I can hit a target the size of dinner plate with your choice of a .30 cal rifle
civilian or military. ( I've used a number of both ) That's Open Iron sights,
Not with a telescopic lens.

With a .22LR, ( I'd prefer a Ruger 10/22 ) and a small telescopic lens,
I can hit targets at 200, 300 yards.
You can buy 30 round magazines for them and carrying 2,000 rounds of
Ammunition would weigh less than four pounds...

Ruger 10/22 Costs $ 250 USD, weighs 5-7lbs
500 rounds .22LR cheap Ammo, $ 10 USD
500 Rounds .22LR Good Ammo $15+ USD
Scope, 2x-4x $ 50-200 USD

How many shots do you think I could pull on zombies at 300 yards with
a semi-automatic rifle?

You fire until they reach what ever distance you feel is "too close"
then retreat on a motor cycle / car.

In a car ( volvo or what ever small car people drive ) you could put
20,000 rounds in about four shoe boxes of space and still fill the car with
anything else you'd need.

I like .30cal rifles better for "kill shots" but tactics make the .22LR the most
economical and useful choice.
CthulhuFhtagn
21-07-2008, 23:42
That's all the proof I need.

Yeah, that's the greatest piece of fanfiction ever.
CthulhuFhtagn
21-07-2008, 23:43
Is that by the guy who wrote Half Life: Full life consequences? :p

No, different guy.
South Lizasauria
21-07-2008, 23:43
A Zombie is a voodo phenominon. A Zombie is a living person who has been poisend with certainc hemicals that make them appear dead and then afterward many people have so much brain damage caused by lack of oxegyn or perhaps the chemicals themselves that they exist in a more or less semi-conscious state where they can understand and obey orders but are hardly capable of thinking for themselves.


The creatures you refer to as Zombies are actually more appropriatly called "Shambeling Dead", "Undead", or perhaps "Ghouls"

lol, dude, if thats the case zombies are everywhere! Heck, I used to go to a Baptist private school filled with them lol. BRAINZZZZZ
Cascade States
21-07-2008, 23:44
That's the greatest thing ever !
[NS]Rolling squid
21-07-2008, 23:46
Cascade, that's basically what the zombie survival guide advises.
Cascade States
21-07-2008, 23:59
I've read that book,
and while there were Some things which were useful.
I did not agree with large portions of it's advise, nor the "science"
it.
I also disagree with the analysis that the zombie out break would result
in a "win" for them.

I don't follow the thought process that the military would result in mass bombing of cities.

The list of things I didn't like about that book go on for some time.
Free Bikers
22-07-2008, 20:56
Would it have killed you to add "taste great with worcestershire sauce" to the poll, huh?
Lord Tothe
22-07-2008, 21:06
Anyone here familiar with the RvB Zombie PSA? I like Sarge's plans......

I very much doubt the existence of zombies.
Conserative Morality
22-07-2008, 21:26
Anyone here familiar with the RvB Zombie PSA? I like Sarge's plans......

I very much doubt the existence of zombies.

OH! OH! I KNOW THAT ONE! Uhhh... Umm... (Been a while since I seen that episode)

Was it feed Griff to them?:D
SaintB
27-07-2008, 13:49
OH! OH! I KNOW THAT ONE! Uhhh... Umm... (Been a while since I seen that episode)

Was it feed Griff to them?:D

It was to use Griff's dead body as bait.. all 300 plans...

Anyway once again Zombie is an improper term!
Biotopia
27-07-2008, 14:00
Srsly?

Not real...
Gravlen
27-07-2008, 14:18
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/zombiepostersmall.png
Lord Tothe
27-07-2008, 18:05
It was to use Griff's dead body as bait.. all 300 plans...

Anyway once again Zombie is an improper term!

Nope. Sarge had 37 different zombie plans. In 36 of those plans he used Grif as bait so he could escape. Plan 37 involved intentionally infecting himself with the virus just so he could kill Grif himself.
Hurdegaryp
29-07-2008, 23:56
Would it have killed you to add "taste great with worcestershire sauce" to the poll, huh?

Maybe it would, but his animated corpse would probably come back for your succulent brains.
Articoa
30-07-2008, 02:00
That BBC article was awesome, I would have loved to see that in the paper.
Mavenu
30-07-2008, 02:50
sorry to alert you, but you should look at snopes first, you know... (http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/zombies.asp)

i say again...
Hurdegaryp
30-07-2008, 16:38
Some people just want to believe, so they'll happily ignore anything that speaks against the inevitability of their beloved zombie apocalypse.
Noble Law Offices
30-07-2008, 16:52
I think of all the places in the world, New Jersey is the most likely place for the Zombie outbreak to begin.


No, that's Racoon City, bub. Umbrella SHALL DESTROY US ALL!:hail: Umbrella!


:soap:
South Lizasauria
30-07-2008, 19:40
Some people just want to believe, so they'll happily ignore anything that speaks against the inevitability of their beloved zombie apocalypse.

By definition they do exist, but not as brain eating corpses. As stated earlier in this thread a zombie is really someone who fell victim to an ancient brainwashing ritual involving "potions" that not only make the subject appear dead but hast wiped out his or her ability to think for his or herself. This makes the perfect servant, of course in the modern world brainwashing doesn't make one look like a corpse like it once did. So technically speaking there are tons of zombies everywhere. WBC is filled with them. BRAINZ! :D

zom-biealso zom-bi (zombe)n.pl. zom-biesalso zom-bis. 1. A snake god of voodoo cults in West Africa, Haiti, and the southern United States. 2. A supernatural power or spell that according to voodoo belief can enter into and reanimate a corpse. A corpse revived in this way. 3. One who looks or behaves like an automaton. 4. A tall mixed drink made of various rums, liqueur, and fruit juice.[Caribbean French and English Creole, from Kimbundu n-zumbi, ghost, departed spirit.]

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Copyright © 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Lord Tothe
30-07-2008, 20:31
By definition they do exist, but not as brain eating corpses. As stated earlier in this thread a zombie is really someone who fell victim to an ancient brainwashing ritual involving "potions" that not only make the subject appear dead but hast wiped out his or her ability to think for his or herself. This makes the perfect servant, of course in the modern world brainwashing doesn't make one look like a corpse like it once did. So technically speaking there are tons of zombies everywhere. WBC is filled with them. BRAINZ! :D

Aw, man! Why'd ya hafta spoil my fantasies? I had my chainsaw and shotgun all ready for the rising.... What am I gonna do now??? :p
Hurdegaryp
30-07-2008, 20:38
Go look for WBC members picketing somewhere in your area? You can't let your equipment go to waste, after all.
South Lizasauria
30-07-2008, 20:41
Go look for WBC members picketing somewhere in your area? You can't let your equipment go to waste, after all.

LOL they count as zombies. ;)
Lord Tothe
30-07-2008, 20:52
Go look for WBC members picketing somewhere in your area? You can't let your equipment go to waste, after all.

Wouldn't it be more fun to use the internet to track down child molestors?:D
South Lizasauria
30-07-2008, 21:05
Wouldn't it be more fun to use the internet to track down child molestors?:D

lol they count as zombies too.

http://www.rocknflicks.com/images/zombie.jpg<braaaaiin-erm....childreeeeeeeen....uuuuuuugggghhhhh!)
South Lizasauria
05-08-2008, 22:31
BUMP!!!! (http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?The%20Beth%20of%20death!):eek:
Lord Tothe
06-08-2008, 04:50
*almost shoots South Liasauria*

Sorry! Don't bump me like that! I'm kinda jumpy with all these zombies out there.
Rathanan
06-08-2008, 04:55
Forget another worrying about another terrorist attack... We must prepare for Z-Day before it's too late.
Utracia
06-08-2008, 05:02
Forget another worrying about another terrorist attack... We must prepare for Z-Day before it's too late.

man has had the solution (http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Kill%20it%20With%20Fire%20Aliens.jpg) since the beginning of our history
Rathanan
06-08-2008, 05:21
Good point, flame throwers for everyone!
Brutland and Norden
06-08-2008, 05:30
Sorry! Don't bump me like that! I'm kinda jumpy with all these zombies out there.
Who says there isn't a zombie in here?

*eats Lord Tothe's brain*
The Lone Alliance
06-08-2008, 05:52
Well "dead back to life" I seriously doubt it.

Now virus that drives people insane and makes them ignore damage?

We already have that. Rabies.

If Rabies ever became an epidemic it would be just like a zombie plague.

IE:If you get a couple hundred infected going bezerk, infected blood would get everywhere.
Lord Tothe
06-08-2008, 06:39
Who says there isn't a zombie in here?

*eats Lord Tothe's brain*

OWNED! All that trouble and effort for nothing! You lose!
South Lizasauria
06-08-2008, 07:13
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/zombiepostersmall.png

Good point, flame throwers for everyone!

I'm afraid during a zombie outbreak such weaponry might do more harm than good.
Brutland and Norden
06-08-2008, 09:14
OWNED! All that trouble and effort for nothing! You lose!
Meh.

*continues eating*