NationStates Jolt Archive


Walking Cities

Sarkhaan
18-07-2008, 06:35
Now, I happen to live in Boston, which has a reputation as "America's Walking City", and even uses that in some of its advertising. Well, a side named WalkScore has posted the top 10 walking cities in the US, as follows:

1. San Francisco, CA

The city is known for its stable, relatively mild climate and progressive viewpoints, and 90% of San Francisco residents have a Walk Score of 70 or above, while 99% have a Walk Score of at least 50. Only 1% live in so-called car-dependent neighborhoods. The top areas are Chinatown, the Financial District, Downtown and North Beach.

2. New York, NY

Most of Manhattan, and even much of the boroughs, are well known for their heavily foot-based culture. In fact, many New Yorkers don't even own cars, given the city's 24-hour, reliable public transportation, not to mention the high cost of parking and gas.

3. Boston, MA

With it's famously labyrinthine roads and tight parking, it's a good thing Boston has world-class subway and ferry service (although many lament that the T does not run 24 hours). 74% of Boston residents have a Walk Score of 70 or above, and 97% have a Walk Score of at least 50.

4. Chicago, IL

The city by the lake is also very pedestrian friendly, starting with the famous Loop, and radiating out.

5. Philadelphia, PA

The top 7 neighborhoods in Philly are designated as Walkers' Paradises, and 66% of city residents have a Walk Score of 70 or above.

6. Seattle, WA

Well known as a city of coffee drinkers, cafe sitters and lovers of outdoor gear, Seattle is also highly walkable, with 10 neighborhoods at the Walkers' Paradise level.

7. Washington D.C.

The nation's capital isn't particularly known for walkablility, beyond the expansive National Mall and hordes of visiting tourists. But many neighborhoods are arranged with good accessibility.

8. Long Beach, CA

It may surprise you, but sunny Long Beach boasts 52% of residents with a Walk Score of 70 or above, 85% with a score of at least 50 – while 15% live in car-dependent areas.

9. Los Angeles, CA

Nearby L.A. posts similar numbers, despite its reputation for horrendous car commutes and epic traffic jams. The City of Angels may be a case of not enough people taking advantage, or even realizing, how walkable their neighborhoods actually are, given the prevailing culture.

10. Portland, OR

Often spoken about in practically hushed, reverent tones, Portland is home to 7 Walkers' Paradises. 45% of residents have a Walk Score of 70 or above, and 17% live in car-dependent hoods.

What do you think of these results? Any big surprises? What do you think of your neighborhood or community? Is it friendly to pedestrians? What are these cities doing that make them more friendly?


Honestly, I'm surprised NYC is as high as it is, given the boroughs outside of Manhattan. I've never seen much walking there. The two neighborhoods I've lived in rank 3rd and 5th in the city, with scores of 96 and 86. Much of it has to do with the road layout (very windy, difficult to navigate), high fuel prices and cost of keeping a car in the city, and a high student population, as well as a strong public transport system
Ryadn
18-07-2008, 06:39
SF is for real. I never drive there unless I'm going to a show that ends after BART shuts down, and I hate every minute of the drive.

LA is total bull, in my experience. There's never anyone on the streets. EVERYONE drives everywhere. For good reason, why would you want to spend more time in LA than you had to?
South Lizasauria
18-07-2008, 06:50
The city is walking?! OMG CALL DEMOLITION SQUID! (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/demolition+squid/)
Sarkhaan
18-07-2008, 06:54
SF is for real. I never drive there unless I'm going to a show that ends after BART shuts down, and I hate every minute of the drive.

LA is total bull, in my experience. There's never anyone on the streets. EVERYONE drives everywhere. For good reason, why would you want to spend more time in LA than you had to?

When does the BART shut down? Boston's T shuts down around 12:30 to 1:30, depending on station, but just before the bars shut down (this is highly political, due to high cost of operation under a Republican board, as well as the number of colleges that don't want their students drinking...among other reasons)

LA, I do want to call bullshit on, but can only go by my dads word, as I've never been there
Poliwanacraca
18-07-2008, 06:59
I am amused, if unsurprised, to note that "most walkable" seems to be pretty strongly correlated to "worst drivers." :-p

Anyway, I'm afraid my own hometown would probably be ranked one of the least walkable cities in the US. Kansas City is a nice enough place, but it was very definitely laid out for automobile traffic. Advantages: you can actually drive across town without getting lost twenty-seven times (I'm looking at you, Boston!), and when you get there, there will be a parking space (I'm looking at you, NYC!); disadvantages: public transit is a joke, and you simply cannot function without a car.
Hurdegaryp
18-07-2008, 07:00
And here I was thinking that this thread was dealing with the fascinating scifi concept of cities that are actually mobile.
Risottia
18-07-2008, 09:05
What do you think of your neighborhood or community? Is it friendly to pedestrians?

Milan here... last week we had three pedestrians (two of them kids) killed by cars as they crossed the road on zebra crossing, and this is more or less the normal going throughout Lombardy. Plus, the pavements here are commonly used as a parking lot, even where they're quite narrow (that is less than 2 metres).
Couple that with pollution (one of the most heavily polluted areas of western Europe), with the public transportation running on reduced timetables after h20.00 and shutting down almost completely after h 01.30 in the city (very much early in the hinterland)... no, Milan isn't quite pedestrian-friendly.
Car-ownership per residents, though, is lower here than in the rest of Italy, because we still get the better public transportation of the whole country, and, since parking can be quite a nightmare, most people go to work with the tram, the metro, or the bike (quite on the rise).
Still a lot should be done: there are almost no bike lanes, most tram lines run on normal roads together with cars (thus reducing speed greatly), there are only 3 metro lines (5 if you count them the German way), and the regional railway service is nothing compared to -let's say- the S-bahn of München.

This city is going to asplode in the days of the Expo.
Intangelon
18-07-2008, 09:12
Seattle is accurate, so long as you live there. Driving in from the 'burbs is a hassle and a half. However, once there, from SoDo to Magnolia or Medina to West Seattle, Metro buses are excellent. The individual neighborhoods themselves are highly walkable, especially Downtown, Belltown and Captiol Hill.

However, it isn't all about big cities. SOme resort towns like Breckenridge, Colorado are amazingly walkable in summer because they must be "skiable" in snow-time. I love the place, and my last visit, this June, I think I used my car a total of 7 of the 19 days I was there. Once to Denver, three times to shop in Frisco/Silverthorne/Dillon, and three times to hiking destinations (Mt. Bierstadt, Mt. Quandary and Mt. Yale -- three fourteeners down, fifty-three to go!).
IL Ruffino
18-07-2008, 09:47
Walk score?
Ryadn
18-07-2008, 10:10
When does the BART shut down? Boston's T shuts down around 12:30 to 1:30, depending on station, but just before the bars shut down (this is highly political, due to high cost of operation under a Republican board, as well as the number of colleges that don't want their students drinking...among other reasons)

LA, I do want to call bullshit on, but can only go by my dads word, as I've never been there

BART has ridiculous hours. The last train from SF to the East Bay leaves just before midnight... on the weekend. It runs in the other direction toward SFO for about 15 minutes after that. Big ball of lame, that's my only bone to pick with BART.
Call to power
18-07-2008, 10:21
I guess Northampton is sort of good but then we have to be good what with all the London folk doing their commutes here

I myself walk everywhere which is rather annoying what with living in England

And here I was thinking that this thread was dealing with the fascinating scifi concept of cities that are actually mobile.

its the new revolution in social mobility!

SNIP

its Italy.
Bottle
18-07-2008, 12:40
DC is pretty walkable. I've lived here for four years without owning a car, and I can manage to get just about anywhere I want to go within the city.
That Imperial Navy
18-07-2008, 12:42
The UK is very walkable. Miles of countryside to hike through, plenty of paths in urban areas...
Callisdrun
18-07-2008, 13:05
SF is for real. I never drive there unless I'm going to a show that ends after BART shuts down, and I hate every minute of the drive.

LA is total bull, in my experience. There's never anyone on the streets. EVERYONE drives everywhere. For good reason, why would you want to spend more time in LA than you had to?

Lol, I completely agree. '

BART really should run later. I hate having to choose between driving to shows and leaving early.


Oh, and here is my obnoxious bit for the New Yorkers:




WE BEAT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Callisdrun
18-07-2008, 13:07
When does the BART shut down? Boston's T shuts down around 12:30 to 1:30, depending on station, but just before the bars shut down (this is highly political, due to high cost of operation under a Republican board, as well as the number of colleges that don't want their students drinking...among other reasons)

LA, I do want to call bullshit on, but can only go by my dads word, as I've never been there

BART stops running from the City to the East Bay at around midnight I think. The east bay lines might run later.

And yeah, LA is total bullshit. It might be walkable if you live in the very center of downtown. It's an example of everything that's wrong with "car culture."
Hachihyaku
18-07-2008, 13:11
The city is walking?! OMG CALL DEMOLITION SQUID! (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/demolition+squid/)

Its been ages since I've seen that