NationStates Jolt Archive

Which One?

I am generally pro-Israel.

Neither

Totally indifferent to both.

Israel . . . .

Totally indifferent to both.

You're just playing hard to get.

At first, you and Israel will go out, have some drinks, you'll be all coy, but you'll make some flirty comment about Israel's eyes or something, to lead them on...but when it comes time to invite them up to your apartment for some military and economic support, you'll be all "Oh, I have a meeting early tomorrow, but call me!"

Then, when Palestine comes around, you'll play it like you and the Jews are just friends, you'll go to lunch (letting them pay, of course), maybe drive up to the point, a little light petting, but when Palestine goes for the bra and recognition as a sovereign state, you'll be all "Oh, let's not go too fast, I want to get to know you and preserve an equitable land distribution".

You're a tease.

Pro-Palestine, but in my case, it's like being sentenced to death and being allowed to choose whether I'm hanged or gassed. (For the record, I would prefer to be hanged)

I don't know jackshit about both, and because of that, I don't give a damn about either.

Yeah, yeah, radicalists kill me now.

I in no way support the Terror state of Israel, and I do not know enough about Palestine to pass judgement.

Neither.

Totally indifferent to both.

I respect that.

You're just playing hard to get.

At first, you and Israel will go out, have some drinks, you'll be all coy, but you'll make some flirty comment about Israel's eyes or something, to lead them on...but when it comes time to invite them up to your apartment for some military and economic support, you'll be all "Oh, I have a meeting early tomorrow, but call me!"

Then, when Palestine comes around, you'll play it like you and the Jews are just friends, you'll go to lunch (letting them pay, of course), maybe drive up to the point, a little light petting, but when Palestine goes for the bra and recognition as a sovereign state, you'll be all "Oh, let's not go too fast, I want to get to know you and preserve an equitable land distribution".

You're a tease.

That was absolutely amazing. I literally laughed out loud, which is not very common with this medium. I commend you.

That was absolutely amazing. I literally laughed out loud, which is not very common with this medium. I commend you.

I'm serious, watch out for the Jews.

Have you ever noticed that Israel, and R'lyeh are phonetically very similar?

Have you ever noticed that Jewish people never go out in sunlight?

Have you ever noticed that Barack Obama and Mel Brooks are never in the same place at the same time?

Be racially aware. Support white nationalism.

I'm serious, watch out for the Jews.

Have you ever noticed that Israel, and R'lyeh are phonetically very similar?

Have you ever noticed that Jewish people never go out in sunlight?

Have you ever noticed that Barack Obama and Mel Brooks are never in the same place at the same time?

Be racially aware. Support white nationalism.

Meh; not big on flagrant racism, though your sig did give me a chuckle.

I'm serious, watch out for the Jews.

Have you ever noticed that Israel, and R'lyeh are phonetically very similar?

Have you ever noticed that Jewish people never go out in sunlight?

Have you ever noticed that Barack Obama and Mel Brooks are never in the same place at the same time?

Be racially aware. Support white nationalism.

Gah, watch out, it's a troll!

Whoever wins.

Its all good I got me mah billy goat!

I'm serious, watch out for the Jews.

Have you ever noticed that Israel, and R'lyeh are phonetically very similar?

Have you ever noticed that Jewish people never go out in sunlight?

Have you ever noticed that Barack Obama and Mel Brooks are never in the same place at the same time?

Be racially aware. Support white nationalism.

FUCKING RACIST CHINK


Sorry, couldn't suppress memories of my English teacher who went on me about most everything else like I just did on you, only with the sly coy of a fucking viper.

Gah, watch out, it's a troll!

Hello newbie!

Meh; not big on flagrant racism, though your sig did give me a chuckle.

I've tried subtle racism, but how do you subtly burn a cross?

Just remember, White Nationalism is the only hope for pure aryan people that want to preserve their race while blaming other's for all their problems.

White Pride World Wide!

Its all good I got me mah billy goat!

Its a sheep, and her name is Tiffany.

Its a sheep, and her name is Tiffany.

o this could be a problem . . . sheep are not as good as billy goats for combating trolls. . .uh oh. . . .um in that case I got my army of dwarves ha! (only funny to those who read terry Pratchet . .. and even then not actually funny)

I believe that both Israel and Palestine are worthy of abolition, just like all states. However, Israel presents a greater and more imminent threat to world peace, it should be abolished first.

I believe that both Israel and Palestine are worthy of abolition, just like all states. However, Israel presents a greater and more imminent threat to world peace, it should be abolished first.

how so

how so

Israel's recent belligerence toward Iran, for example.

I've tried subtle racism, but how do you subtly burn a cross?

Just remember, White Nationalism is the only hope for pure aryan people that want to preserve their race while blaming other's for all their problems.

White Pride World Wide!

You might like this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Derbyshire), who said "I am a homophobe, though a mild and tolerant one, and a racist, though an even more mild and tolerant one."

And I'm not really big on racism as a whole, be it flagrant or subtle. Then again, I suppose I can appreciate effective subtlety for nearly any subject, but that is entirely theoretical. Whatever.

Whoever wins.

Actually, I have to respect that view as well.

I was hoping this would have some honest discussion of the actual issue of Israel/Palestine. But hey, time remains.

I in no way support the Terror state of Israel, and I do not know enough about Palestine to pass judgement.

I'm with this guy, girl, whatever...

Israel's recent belligerence toward Iran, for example.

That is far from one-sided, given Iran's historical position on Israel's existence, namely in regards to the actions that should be taken in regards to it, as well as the recent steps it has taken. Hell, given those factors, I can hardly say I would act any differently than the Israeli state has been.

Then again, though I am curious about your ends, you standards for judgment. You say that Israel is worse insofar as it is a greater threat to "world peace"; is that the value which is the basis for your judgment?

I am not going to state my judgment, although I did vote, lest I be called anti-semitic or anti-Palestinian or some shit like that. But I can tell you that I stand at a minority at the moment.... D:

I am unsure why there is no "both" option here.

Pro Israel. I don't care about the mandate or zionism or all that random stuff. I just know that I used to live in Israel, I liked the culture, the people, etc and I think it's done a splendid job as a thriving country and deserves to exist.

Israel has the same problem as the United States. Ultra-fundamentalist nutjobs with too much access to ears in the government. The same can be said for Palestine with Hamas in charge, but you can't seriously believe the entire population of a ghetto reservation can beat back the armed forces of an entire country and overthrow its government now can you?

Get rid of the fundamentalist fruitcakes in all sides involved and some real MidEast Peace might turn up in sight.

Pro Israel. I don't care about the mandate or zionism or all that random stuff. I just know that I used to live in Israel, I liked the culture, the people, etc and I think it's done a splendid job as a thriving country and deserves to exist.

Well maybe if the Brits actually followed the mandate that they created and promised without being hypocritical and reverting the whole thing, then things would be a bit different. ;)

Which One?

Why no "both" option on poll?

I don't like my options.
While on the one hand, I am Pro-Israel (as in, the right of israel to exist and defend itself), I dislike many of the actions of the Israeli government. (See the bulldozing the house thread).

On the other hand, I despise anybody who would kill civilians for gain, so I have no sympathy for the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah. Yet I find myself pitying the palestinian refugees, because their problems could have been solved by 1955, but who have instead been used to ferment hatred towards Israel by the respective arab governments.

sigh*

But Israel's more odious.

Both are wankers, in very similar ways, despite the vast differences in money between the sides.

What are these "Israel" and "Palestine" that you speak of?

I support (by "support", I mean "have decided not to kill") whichever one of them KNEELS BEFORE ZOD!

They have no business fighting among themselves, because it distracts and hinders them from their Zod-given duty of kneeling!

They should learn to live with, and accept the presence of, each other, so they can get back to kneeling, and if they don't, I will shoot my eye-lasers at those of them who defy me by continuing to fight with each other!

Well maybe if the Brits actually followed the mandate that they created and promised without being hypocritical and reverting the whole thing, then things would be a bit different. ;)

QFT. They never should have renigged/reneged (whichever is correct) on the Balfour Declaration.

I despise anybody who would kill civilians for gain, so I have no sympathy for the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah. Yet I find myself pitying the palestinian refugees, because their problems could have been solved by 1955, but who have instead been used to ferment hatred towards Israel by the respective arab governments.

sigh*

QFT.

Well. The Palestinians keep shooting rockets at the Israelis. :gas:

The Israelis shoot back. :mp5:

They both pray. :hail:

Then it starts all over again. :soap:

Personally, I believe in a two state solution. The first step is to remove the US from the middle of the problem by dropping all foreign aid to both sides, only then will the US be able to talk to both groups in a fair and open manner. After that both sides must admit that they have been complete nutters for the last 50 years and that they must strive for self improvement.

Pro-Palestine, but in my case, it's like being sentenced to death and being allowed to choose whether I'm hanged or gassed. (For the record, I would prefer to be hanged)

*takes notes* And will you have the chicken for your last meal, or the vegetarian option?

I've tried subtle racism, but how do you subtly burn a cross?

Martha Stewart suggests purchasing a large wax cross candle rather than one made of wood, with a wick at the top and a few along each "arm". It gives out a cheery glow that's sure to warm the heart of even the dirtiest job-stealing heathen immigrant homo!

I don't like my options.
While on the one hand, I am Pro-Israel (as in, the right of israel to exist and defend itself), I dislike many of the actions of the Israeli government. (See the bulldozing the house thread).

On the other hand, I despise anybody who would kill civilians for gain, so I have no sympathy for the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah. Yet I find myself pitying the palestinian refugees, because their problems could have been solved by 1955, but who have instead been used to ferment hatred towards Israel by the respective arab governments.

sigh*

This. Thanks for not making me tupe it.

Which One?

Both of them, and turned into plate glass if they don't stop bitching, acting like assholes, and calling upon the rest of the world for money and support.

I can't see why ANY two neighbouring countries can't reach a peace deal, since France and Germany are best buddies now after about 1000 years of hostilities.

I support Israel, in theory. In practice, both Israel and the US should stop their Middle-East gun-wanking.

I can't see why ANY two neighbouring countries can't reach a peace deal, since France and Germany are best buddies now after about 1000 years of hostilities.

Well, that's different. We all know that Europe's bloody past is officially categorized as "all in good fun".

If I learned that all Israelis and Palestinans had been kidnapped by UFOs overnight, it would not bother me in the slightest.

Both sides need a big dose of being ignored. The world pays too much attention to both sides and their circular, self-sustaining feud.

If they had nobody to bitch to, maybe they'd stop killing each other and work things out.

I'm pro-human rights. Neither side respects them.

To me it's not a case of being pro one or the other but being pro justice.

I mean, Israels, they think they're the land chosen by the gods, so they go and :mp5: all the palestines as if they're birds...
On the other side, the Palestines? They just want to be free, but let them be free, another afganistan, or even worse, another Iraq is born... :gas:

I support Canaan. If this means digging up millennia-old corpses and reanimating them with foul necromantic magiks, and then instating the risen dead as leaders of the area, then so be it. And if it doesn't, then I no longer support Canaan. I want zombies, damnit.

Of course Palestine. Israel is a terrorstate, built on the blood of palestinian civilians that are killed EVERY day. Also, the israel-lobby controls the great country of USA and are responsible for the war in Iraq that have costed houndredthousands of lifes. The occupation of Ghazza, of the West bank, of east Jerusalem, of The Golan Heights, of Shebaa and the former occupation of Sinai and South Lebanon, its just to much. Death to Israel! I'm not saying the jews should be expelle, but all palestinians should be allowed to return.

You tell me:

http://jerusalem-gate.netfirms.com/store/nfoscomm/catalog/images/palestine-flag-tshirt.jpg

dont mess with the zohan :)

If I HAD to pick, I'd say I'm pro-Palestine. Alternatively, I'd rather have the whole region glassed, they cause too much trouble.

I am neither but I am anti-israel.
They create alot of violence and war in the region against Lebanon and Palestine. People say that the Jews need their land but then so do the arabs. Palestine is not even a real country it is sort of an israeli holding pen for arab people.

WTF is up with people being so genocidal? Its seems to be counter productive to be against war and violence, yet for killing an entire region, by "glassing" them. Wow, wow, wow! The collective intelligence of NSG surely is at an all-time low.

Because Genicide is fun. Why do you think Hitler killed all those jews? Not for a corrupt ideology or anything. It was for the lulz.

I don't really care that much, but a few things about it make me angry.

First, the apologists for Israel who pretend that it is morally unique and superior, with an immaculate conception, "purity of arms", and purely benevolent and peaceful intentions. Face it: Israel was a colonial project, forcibly imposed upon the (relatively) indigenous population against their will, and from the start many of its policies have involved brutality, militarism, racism, and ethnic cleansing (not to mention stupidity). This remains the fundamental "elephant in the room", and while it would be neither practical nor ethical to reverse it now, some consideration should be given to that fact.

Second, the defenders of Hezbollah and Hamas. Murdering civilians is never a legitimate tactic, and subordination to reactionary and prejudiced Islamic fundamentalism is hardly a liberatory end for the Palestinians and the Lebanese. Not to mention the fact that Hamas, at least, has proven decidedly ineffective.

Third, the critics of Israel who magnify the enormity of its crimes and the extent of its influence beyond all reason. Into this category goes the people who pretend that it controls US foreign policy (when in fact the power relation goes, if anything, in the other direction), and the "boycott" crowd that ignores more compelling cases and the practical facts of the matter for feel-good showmanship.

I voted "neither." :)

I don't support states.