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http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/

This will be funny if they implement it - the first time some 16 year old hacker gets the idea to shock everyone on the plane, and post the video on Youtube.

How many of you would stop flying? How many would be willing to fly with this device on their arm?

A senior government official with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has expressed great interest in a so-called safety bracelet that would serve as a stun device, similar to that of a police Taser®. According to this promotional video found at the Lamperd Less Lethal, Inc. website, the bracelet would be worn by all airline passengers (video also shown below).

This bracelet would:

• Take the place of an airline boarding pass

• Contain personal information about the traveler

• Be able to monitor the whereabouts of each passenger and his/her luggage

• Shock the wearer on command, completely immobilizing him/her for several minutes

The Electronic ID Bracelet, as it’s referred to, would be worn by every traveler “until they disembark the flight at their destination.” Yes, you read that correctly. Every airline passenger would be tracked by a government-funded GPS, containing personal, private and confidential information, and would shock the customer worse than an electronic dog collar if the passenger got out of line.

As much as I would love something that could track my luggage no to everything else it does. Wouldn't do it.

I wear mine twisted inside-out. It's a hoot.

All I can think of is how funny it would be if a couple were joining the mile high club, and suddenly one or both of them are stunned.

no.

I wont even use "EZ Pass" to pay tolls

not interested in any more tracking things connected to me or my stuff

If I were trying to kill the airline industry I don't think I could come up with a quicker, surer, way.

I wouldn't mind it, but then I wouldn't do anything to get myself shocked so why would i?

I just won't fly with an American airline/in America.

I just won't fly with an American airline/in America.

It really sounds more trouble than its worth these days. Not only that but their security is apparently conducted by the most humourless miserable bastards (and bitches) that could be found in their many and diverse states.

I wouldn't mind it, but then I wouldn't do anything to get myself shocked so why would i?

having had my luggage delayed and sent to the wrong places twice, I would expect to be shocked by mistake too

Why arent we proposing these for prisoners?
A bracelet or collar that would shock them if they escaped or went outside of their approved boundaries.

Nah...wouldnt want to treat them like animals,right?

Sounds like a hacker's deam come true. :)

This is hilariously awful. I love how the product's called a "safety bracelet".

"Here, wear this safety bracelet."
"How does it keep me safe?"
"Well, if we thought you were out of line, and you weren't wearing the bracelet, we'd have to shoot you. This way, we can just torture you with shocks and there's a higher chance that you'll survive."
"Oh, makes sense then."

I also love that it's possible to activate the shock via a laser. If this thing gets wide use, I'll be taking bets on how many months it'll be before someone figures out how to modify a laser pointer to activate the bracelet. What a useful weapon for a terrorist wanting to subdue a planeload of passengers!

Next the government'll have remote-controlled detonators/tracking devices implanted in you at birth. Because they care, of course.

If I were trying to kill the airline industry I don't think I could come up with a quicker, surer, way.

What about bombing Saudi Arabia to send oil prices skyrocketing?

All I can think of is how funny it would be if a couple were joining the mile high club, and suddenly one or both of them are stunned.

They don't let you do that anymore. If two people get up together and are suspected of (or seen) going into a bathroom together, questions are asked and hell is raised. After all, although the odds are in favor of nookie, there's that tiny little chance they're in there together being terrorists.

if they're that worried, just give the crew tasers. But yea, this is stupid, and kind of scary.

What about bombing Saudi Arabia to send oil prices skyrocketing?

Might be as effective, but I don't think it would it would top it.

Might be as effective, but I don't think it would it would top it.

Silly dress code for all flights?

Silly dress code for all flights?

Doesn't the OP fall under that?

sounds good i am all for it.

Rolling squid;13836142']if they're that worried, just give the crew tasers. But yea, this is stupid, and kind of scary.

But oh so necessary. After all, since 11th Sept. there has been hundreds, if not thousands of plane hijackings.



Right?

I wouldn't mind it, but then I wouldn't do anything to get myself shocked so why would i?

Isn't that what the Jews said when the gays and the mentally disabled were being sterilized?
Isn't that what the Germans said when the Jews were put in concentration camps?

That's a dangerous attitude to have, to OK a curtailment of freedoms that might eventually be turned against you.
After all, if airline passengers can be forced to wear stungun bracelets, what's next? Making people prove they're Bush-lovin' Republicans before they're allowed near the president during a public appearance (oh wait, we're already doing that)?
There has to be some criteria you fit that could be used against you, whether skin color, sexual orientation, religion, country of origin, political party, or choice of jam flavor.
You may not be doing anything "wrong", but you could BE somebody wrong.

I actually think this device looks pretty cool. I would want this bracelet, even if it does look weird.

the only problem I see is that if something happens they will likely shock everyone on the plane rather then look up who is causing the problem.

So that autistic kid in the next row over might get me zapped for acting up.

But oh so necessary. After all, since 11th Sept. there has been hundreds, if not thousands of plane hijackings.



Right?

exactly. I was saying IF they were concerned. But anyway, no smart terrorist is going to bother with airplanes any more. The security is tight enough that the effort to get through could be expended else where.

It's a terrible idea.

But I still couldn't help but laugh. The idea of the air hostess zapping someone for getting on their nerves... :p

Why not expand this? If its just on the airplane, why not in the whole airport? If your going to ride the public bus, you could be a danger to other people so you have to wear a shock bracelet on on the bus too. I read a statistic that said that the majority of drug deals go down in parks, and people get mugged all the time. So if your going to a park, you have to wear one. Public sporting events, too. People get out of control at those all the time. Hell, as soon as you leave your house you should have to wear one. Only the criminals would have to worry about it anyway, and you don't support criminals, do you?

Does no one else see this becoming a problem?

I ain't wearin no shock collar.

If that was the absolute only way I was getting to Montreal, then I'd suck it up and wear the damn thing.

"Thank you for flying Abu Ghraib Airlines, on our non-stop flight to Guantanamo with connecting flights to secret rendition sites in Belarus..."

If nothing else, this idea would make sure everyone had their seat belt securely fastened and their tray in the upright position.

having had my luggage delayed and sent to the wrong places twice, I would expect to be shocked by mistake too

Why arent we proposing these for prisoners?
A bracelet or collar that would shock them if they escaped or went outside of their approved boundaries.

Nah...wouldnt want to treat them like animals,right?

No no no, you got it all wrong. It would be breach of their human rights. When someone pays to get taser-bracelet on them it's all right ;)

Why not expand this? If its just on the airplane, why not in the whole airport? If your going to ride the public bus, you could be a danger to other people so you have to wear a shock bracelet on on the bus too. I read a statistic that said that the majority of drug deals go down in parks, and people get mugged all the time. So if your going to a park, you have to wear one. Public sporting events, too. People get out of control at those all the time. Hell, as soon as you leave your house you should have to wear one. Only the criminals would have to worry about it anyway, and you don't support criminals, do you?

Does no one else see this becoming a problem?

I ain't wearin no shock collar.

This

And it's too bad that they don't let you join the mile high club anymore.

if el al doesnt use it, we dont need it.

Doesn't the OP fall under that?

No, by silly I was thinking something like cosplay

or maybe this

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/02189163.jpg

It's a terrible idea.

But I still couldn't help but laugh. The idea of the air hostess zapping someone for getting on their nerves... :p

"Oh, so you mean I can't press the call button?!"

:p

How many of you would stop flying? How many would be willing to fly with this device on their arm?

I would not fly on any plane that required me to wear such a device. If all airlines and airplanes required such a device, I would stop flying.

no.

I wont even use "EZ Pass" to pay tolls

not interested in any more tracking things connected to me or my stuff

Bingo...I even pay cash, despite Visa's constant complaints that I'm ruining their choreography.

If I were trying to kill the airline industry I don't think I could come up with a quicker, surer, way.

If this gets implemented, I'm buying stock in FirstGroup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FirstGroup), which operates Greyhound bus lines.

Also...

According to this promotional video found at the Lamperd Less Lethal, Inc. website, the bracelet would be worn by all airline passengers

"Less" Lethal......funny stuff.

Tazer devices are not 100% non-lethal...this idea is a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

It's a shame they all ready made Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. This would add more hilarious material.

What about terroris... ahem, passengers with a pacemaker?
Would they be required to wear this?

no.

I wont even use "EZ Pass" to pay tolls

not interested in any more tracking things connected to me or my stuff

Well, aren't we all mysterious-like? Humph.

Why not simply chain pasengers to their seats ? Much cheaper, easier to implement, less likely to fail and just as degrading.

no.

I wont even use "EZ Pass" to pay tolls

not interested in any more tracking things connected to me or my stuff
I agree with the paranoid right-winger.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/

This will be funny if they implement it - the first time some 16 year old hacker gets the idea to shock everyone on the plane, and post the video on Youtube.

How many of you would stop flying? How many would be willing to fly with this device on their arm?

lol, if the government made a mistake life would suck.

Ive never flown before...always driven everywhere...

But, hell, im not worry, itd be a PR and Financial Nightmare to implement, so i dont see Airline Companies going through with that shit...

and America doesnt do shit without the Conglomerates' go ahead...

Another small step towards American totalitarianism. What else is new:headbang:?

Oh, I get it, *checks calender*

Oh wait, I guess I don't get it, I really don't...

I mean, it's JULY, they're not even close! Seriously, they missed the mark by three months! THREE MONTHS!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/

This will be funny if they implement it - the first time some 16 year old hacker gets the idea to shock everyone on the plane, and post the video on Youtube.

How many of you would stop flying? How many would be willing to fly with this device on their arm?

Just bring rubber gloves and tuck them under the bracelet. Hell, you could get around it with a condom.

I agree with the paranoid right-winger.

There's nothing paranoid about not using EZ-pass. If two toll booths are 70 miles apart and you go through them in less than an hour you can get a speeding ticket in the mail.

Omg He's shocked as he tells me!

For all the slaves er.. i mean folks that would take a shock braclet please get in lines with the cows so that the goverment can save money and not use there new death camps thay have been setting up for years.

What about terroris... ahem, passengers with a pacemaker?
Would they be required to wear this?
Hm, that might be a worthwhile investment.
"Doctor, I want a pacemaker."
"But you're 21 years old and have no history of prior heart conditio-"
"Yeah, but I really like pacing, ok? Now shut the hell up and start breaking my ribs, I've got a seven AM flight to Columbus tomorrow."

Alternately, I could just join the chorus of people saying "Fuck no, I'd sooner remove my penis with a rusty bread knife."

Nice.

Now I see terrorist groups training with exposure to voltages, or with basic electronic countermeasures to either disable the bracelet, or resist its effects, while the normal passengers get fucked by a flight attendant being careless with the switch and sitting over the activating device, frying some poor guy.