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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/14/final-fantasy-xiii-coming-to-xbox-360/

Ouch.
What more is there to be said?

i honestly havent played final fantasy since they left Nintendo.

i honestly havent played final fantasy since they left Nintendo.

You havent missed much. Six was really the high point.

Still, I think we can honestly say that Square has firmly entrenched itself as an industry whore >_>

yeah that's...um...that's a big kick in the balls

Any actual quotes, or secondary confirmation? Obviously this would be HUGE news, and I can't find anything other than this blurb... and Square said just last month that Final Fantasy on the 360 was a "blank page." Seems a long way to go in a month, with the presumed launch not all THAT far away... maybe... we hope... some day.

:)

Okay, the other news sites have jumped on board, so I'm convinced.

I'll be interested to see the differences, if any, between the two versions. Square has touted this for some time as using the "full power" of the PS3 to do what they couldn't achieve on other consoles. Either they were talking out their collective ass, or we should expect to see some noticeable shortcomings in a 360 version.

Okay, the other news sites have jumped on board, so I'm convinced.

I'll be interested to see the differences, if any, between the two versions. Square has touted this for some time as using the "full power" of the PS3 to do what they couldn't achieve on other consoles. Either they were talking out their collective ass, or we should expect to see some noticeable shortcomings in a 360 version.

360 isn't much slower than PS3. Certainly, PS3 and 360 are closer in regards to performance than PS2 and Xbox was. PS3 has a better CPU, 360 has slightly more RAM and a better GPU. The biggest disadvantage of the 360 is that it uses DVDs, of which I'm sure FF13 will use plenty.

Besides, this "using X% of the power of Y product" is pure bullshit. Most games max out the CPU and/or the GPU, on both consoles.

FF was so much better on Nintendo anyways.

FF was so much better on Nintendo anyways.

Eh? Pretty much everyone I know who has played the series with the expection of my sister (who is even more avid final fantasy fan than I am :p) claims FF7 as the best one.

To be honest I'd rank FF6 4th or 5th at best.

Oh well, these news make me that much happier for buying 360.

A lot of people are going to hate me for saying this but, I think FF is one of the most overrated games on the planet, so I don't care what console it comes out on.

Eh? Pretty much everyone I know who has played the series with the expection of my sister (who is even more avid final fantasy fan than I am :p) claims FF7 as the best one.

To be honest I'd rank FF6 4th or 5th at best.

Oh well, these news make me that much happier for buying 360.

the first one was the best.

My ex-roommate and his brother will definitely get this title. They are the most fanatical game freaks I have ever known. They own a Nintendo, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Sega Game Gear, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, N-64, PS1, Game Cube, 3DO, X-Box, PS2, Nintendo DS, PSP, X-Box 360, PS3, and a Wii; all with multiple games.

They admit that they bought each one at launch (minus the gameboy color...they got that used off of my ex-roommate's GF's brother) and have had to buy replacement systems for faulty or damaged hardware. So, just in hardware they were looking around $6,200. They figure they have at least that much in games alone (their library of games literally take three walls, floor to ceiling, in one room of their house)...so a rough estimate is about $7,000 in games or $14,000 total with taxes and such. With their current PC gaming rigs (each) add another $5000 to that. ~$19,000.

Crazy people...just crazy.

Personally, I'm happy with just a PS2 (used...with the Ace Combat series, SSX Tricky, and Soul calibur 2-3), a Dreamcast (Soul Calibur and Sonic games), and a Neo Geo (with the entire Samuri Shodown set)...and my gaming PC. Total gaming cost for me over the years ~$4,000...again that is mostly pc upgrades.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/14/final-fantasy-xiii-coming-to-xbox-360/

Ouch.
What more is there to be said?
Sony... next time... exclusive clause in the contract.

the PS3 will still get FFXIII

they just have to compete with Microsoft.

Personally, I couldn't care less. The games aren't that fantastic anyway. Far from it.

What pisses me off is that the next Star Ocean title will be 360 exclusive.

Hahaha what a nail in the coffin for the PS3.

Personally, I couldn't care less. The games aren't that fantastic anyway. Far from it.

What pisses me off is that the next Star Ocean title will be 360 exclusive.

I don't think it'll end up an exclusive, except perhaps a timed one. SE has said over and over that a PS3 version could happen, but that all that's certain for now is that it'll be on 360. If they refuse to confirm it as an exclusive, it's a good bet it won't be.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ps3exclu/petition.html

Haha, oh wow.
Sony Defence Force, GO!

Honestly? The series maxed out at VII, and has been lacking ever since. I'm not thrilled, nor excited, even though I have a 360 and not a PS3. I'm not going to buy it, so that's not that big of a deal at all.

I may not be an FF fan, but I can see how big a kick in the balls this is for Sony. Even if you think it sucks, you can't deny the popularity of the Final Fantasy franchise.

I have virtually no experience with the PS3, so I can't judge which one is better, but I think that the Xbox 360 and Wii are winning the console wars. The FFXIII exclusive would have given the PS3 a major boost.

I may not be an FF fan, but I can see how big a kick in the balls this is for Sony. Even if you think it sucks, you can't deny the popularity of the Final Fantasy franchise.

I have virtually no experience with the PS3, so I can't judge which one is better, but I think that the Xbox 360 and Wii are winning the console wars. The FFXIII exclusive would have given the PS3 a major boost.

PS3 has sold rather well actually. Definitely not as well as Sony was hoping it would, but not bad either. The only reason the 360 is in the lead is because it launched a year before the PS3, but PS3 is catching up.

Wii is completely destroying both 360 and PS3 in sales though. If there's a winner here, it's them.

Honestly? The series maxed out at VII, and has been lacking ever since.
FF8 was better ;)

I'm against exclusives in general. I'd rather be able to play any game, regardless of which next-gen platform I chose to use. I'm also against system exclusive features in games, such as system specific characters (a la Darth Vader/Yoda in Soul Calibur IV).

So basically as far as I'm concerned this is a step in the right direction.

FF8 was better ;)

Seriously? Oh noes the GFs took our memories!!!one11

And Squall and Cloud were both whiny, angsty pussies compared to Edgar and Locke.

Seriously? Oh noes the GFs took our memories!!!one11
Was pish. On the other hand, the plot is better overall, and I liked the limited spells aspect. Plus there were less utterly gash minigames *cough submarine cough*
And Squall and Cloud were both whiny, angsty pussies compared to Edgar and Locke.
Uhu. Not actually what I claimed, though.

FF8 was better ;)I hope you're joking. FF8 was lame. I didn't even bother to finish it.

FF9 was very entertaining, though I didn't get as pulled into the story as with 7.

Best overall RPG was 6, I think.

10 sucked. There are going to be people who hate me for saying it, but I just could not get into that game. Period. The battle system was terrible, the story was horrendous, and that underwater soccer shit was just awful. Plus there wasn't a single character I liked. And I thought the artwork/music/graphics were some of the worst in the series. I don't care what anyone says.

Didn't play 11... still hard to suck me into a game that requires monthly fees, especially when I know I'm going to spend half my time mindlessly leveling up.

LOVED 12. I still love 12. I can pull it out any time and have fun with it. The story could have been better, the ending was terribly anticlimactic... but for the overall enjoyment of it, for the look and feel of the thing (especially after upscaling to HD on the PS3!!) I can't get enough.

To the extent that 13 promises to polish the innovations made in 12, I'm really really looking forward to it.

Hahaha what a nail in the coffin for the PS3.Really? Adjusted for release date, PS3 was on a par with 360 LAST year... and considering that Sony has actually OUTSOLD Microsoft for the first six months of 2008 despite the 360's price advantage, I'd say they're in a pretty good position.

Besides, with the huge Sony fan base behind Final Fantasy, I think we can count on one thing: even if the game sells more in raw numbers on the 360, the purchase rate will be much higher for the PS3 (as it was for GTA IV), and the game will still tend to push sales of the PS3 more than it pushes new sales of the 360--again, as we saw with GTA IV, probably more so as GTA definitely appeals more to the 360 fan base, by all appearances, than RPGs or Final Fantasy in particular.

Not good for Sony, to be sure... but hardly a nail. And there is no coffin.

Why would people get mad? It just means more people can play the game.

PS3 is overpriced, and offers nothing. I'll keep my 360 and Alienware PC.


Besides, FF sucks.

And Squall and Cloud were both whiny, angsty pussies compared to Edgar and Locke.

"And do not, under any circumstances, allow a certain royal personage, who shall remain unnamed, anywhere near you!"

I hope you're joking. FF8 was lame. I didn't even bother to finish it.

FF9 was very entertaining, though I didn't get as pulled into the story as with 7.

Best overall RPG was 6, I think.

10 sucked.

One thing i noticed about the FF series. The protagonist is on a constantly dropping social scale. In FFVII, he was an ex soldier. In VIII, he was a college graduate and mercenary for hire. In IX, he was a refugee thief. In X, he was a figment of somebody's imagination.

I find it amusing that there's a probability that some of the people who are celebrating the PlayStation 3's apparent decline and demise are also rabid Microsoft Haytas who wouldn't sully their PC with filthy Windows Vista to begin with.

Well, losing FFXIII is what Sony gets for their horrible marketing of the PS3 at launch and being, let's see... LAST BY FAR in console sales compared to the 360 and the Wii since then. Square is just doing what's economically sound for the company. They're more than doubling the market for their product by opening the game up to the 360. Clearly, the Microsoft/Sony duel does not matter to them, as long as their bottom line is covered.

Hmmmm, I don't mind. As you can propably see by my name, FFVII was really the last time I cared about Final Fantasy that much. I mean, I bought VIII, X-2 and XI, but after VI and VII, there wasn't that much to miss, really. Though, XI is no match for VI and VII, it was worth buying for offering the only chance of online multiplayer FF, so I still play it. But other than that... the story of FFXIII looks to me a like a bad copy of Laputa - Castle In The Sky, by the way...

I find it amusing that there's a probability that some of the people who are celebrating the PlayStation 3's apparent decline and demise are also rabid Microsoft Haytas who wouldn't sully their PC with filthy Windows Vista to begin with.

I own a Wii, not an xbox.

Not that I care mind you. I do agree with others in this thread, VI and VII were the peak of the series.

I own a Wii, not an xbox.

Remember the good old days when Nintendo was the only player in the game? I'll take Disneyesque Family Friendly Censorship for a thousand, Alex. Nintendo only really started to relent on censorship of third-party games when it was feeling the squeeze of competetion from the PlayStation 2.

Not that I care mind you. I do agree with others in this thread, VI and VII were the peak of the series.

The Final Fantasy series have always been about creating and exploring new settings. Many of them have some basis in the traditional quasi-medeival sword-and-sorcery settings, but the few that stand out like 7 and 8 do get noticed now and then. Personally I think a decent idea for a future installment ought to be set on Earth post-Spirits Within.

Blech. I stopped playing after, or perhaps in the middle of, nine. After that it got harder and harder to tell the women from the men. O_o Not to mention the incredibly crappy stories.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ps3exclu/petition.html

Haha, oh wow.
Sony Defence Force, GO!

why don't they try to steal one of X-Box's hits...

wait... I know they have one that the PS3 doesn't... :confused:

Everyone has their favorites for the FF series. Me, I like em all (except for XI... don't play MMORPGs) hehehe.. even Nintendo has the series for their Gameboy and DS.

PS3 is overpriced, [. . .] Alienware PC.

I find it interesting that you call PS3 overpriced when you have one of the more overpriced PCs.

I find it interesting that you call PS3 overpriced when you have one of the more overpriced PCs.


Its not overpriced, because its a quality machine. The PS3 is not.

Its the 1st PC that I have not built myself out of sheer lazyness, and I love it. Even more than my Custom built Quad Core

Remember the good old days when Nintendo was the only player in the game? I'll take Disneyesque Family Friendly Censorship for a thousand, Alex. Nintendo only really started to relent on censorship of third-party games when it was feeling the squeeze of competetion from the PlayStation 2.



The Final Fantasy series have always been about creating and exploring new settings. Many of them have some basis in the traditional quasi-medeival sword-and-sorcery settings, but the few that stand out like 7 and 8 do get noticed now and then. Personally I think a decent idea for a future installment ought to be set on Earth post-Spirits Within.

Nintendo's censorship really set gaming as an art form and as entertainment back a lot. Made video games seem like a kids thing instead of for everyone. Granted I was a kid during the Nintendo Seal of Censorship nonsense so it didn't really bother me.

One thing i noticed about the FF series. The protagonist is on a constantly dropping social scale. In FFVII, he was an ex soldier. In VIII, he was a college graduate and mercenary for hire. In IX, he was a refugee thief. In X, he was a figment of somebody's imagination.

actually, that's wrong. the re-occuring baddie was a national leader. the bad boss was just a dreamer. It was the Hero that was a figement of someone's imagination.

actually, that's wrong. the re-occuring baddie was a national leader. the bad boss was just a dreamer. It was the Hero that was a figement of someone's imagination.

I think you've got the wrong idea what protagonist means. It means, loosely, main character, otherwise the hero of the story. And it's true. I mean, look at IV. Sure, the protagonist eventually got demoted to errand boy, but in the beginning he was a death knight and lord commander of the king's army. That's a pretty impressive entry to put in your resume. Can't remember V, but in VI, it was a treasure hunter, which isn't too bad. Indiana Jones was one too.

Come to think of it, it's not just the protagonist who drops on the social scale. So does the villain. Let's take a look.

VII's hero was an ex-soldier who managed to beat the best of the best of Shin-Ra's elite corps. Who was the villain of the story? A pretty boy who had mommy issues.

VIII however, dropped the scale even further, making the protagonist a newbie college graduate and mercenary. The villain in this case was not so bad, but very bland. A witch.

IX? You can't get any lower than a castaway refugee eking out a living as a thief, with the villain being a gene soldier with self-worth issues right?

Wrong.

X lowered the bar even further, turning the protagonist into a figment of someone's imagination. And the villain? A freaking bug. A bug! How much lower can you get than that?

Actually, I think Square is kicking itself in the balls. The PS3 is already a big and rapidly growing market (one that could easily overtake the 360's lead in the fairly near future), and they're making a huge mistake by ignoring the system in favor of the 360.

I mean, that might have been an okay idea when the PS3 was off to a rocky start, but now it's nothing more than lost profits.

Actually, I think Square is kicking itself in the balls. The PS3 is already a big and rapidly growing market (one that could easily overtake the 360's lead in the fairly near future), and they're making a huge mistake by ignoring the system in favor of the 360.

I mean, that might have been an okay idea when the PS3 was off to a rocky start, but now it's nothing more than lost profits.

I heard the same thing when it became clear that GTA4 was no longer a Sony exclusive, and look how that ended up. It sold well on PS3, and even better on Xbox 360.

By doing this, they more than doubled the number of potential customers for their game. Even though people who are traditional Sony gamers are probably more likely to buy a Final Fantasy game, they could get a lot of extra sales on 360. Or are you suggesting that more PS3 owners that were going to buy the game will now boycott it, than they will get extra sales on 360? I think that is very unlikely. And very pathetic, should it happen.

And ignoring the PS3? The Crystal Tools engine is multi-platform. Development is done on PC, and it is then ported to PS3 and now also 360. From what they've told us, this is a very simple process.

Hahaha what a nail in the coffin for the PS3.

And I'm pissed the hell off that I got a PS3 instead of an XBOX.

And I'm pissed the hell off that I got a PS3 instead of an XBOX.

do what I do...get both ;)

do what I do...get both ;)

That requires money, which I need to pay for my apartment. And then I'd have to spend even more money to get games for both instead of getting more games for one. And don't get me wrong, I like my PS3. But I got it for the Square Enix games (mostly Kingdom Hearts, of which they need to make another, especially since 2 wasn't fantastic. They need to make up for it. And the gameboy game. You know, now that I think about it only the first one was great, but damn is it great).

That requires money, which I need to pay for my apartment. And then I'd have to spend even more money to get games for both instead of getting more games for one. And don't get me wrong, I like my PS3. But I got it for the Square Enix games (mostly Kingdom Hearts, of which they need to make another, especially since 2 wasn't fantastic. They need to make up for it. And the gameboy game. You know, now that I think about it only the first one was great, but damn is it great).

at this point, if a game I want is cross platform, I get the 360 version.

at this point, if a game I want is cross platform, I get the 360 version.

Which again makes me wonder why I have a PS3 and not just an XBOX, especially since XBOX has the benefit of an online multiplayer community that people actually care about. I've wanted the Orange Box for a long-ass time, but there's really no point in having TF2 if no one's going to be online to play it...