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Stella firm buys Budweiser brewer

The US brewer Anheuser-Busch has agreed to be taken over by Belgium-based InBev, in a move that will create the world's largest beer maker.

The $52bn (£26bn) takeover bid by InBev, which makes Stella Artois beer, was accepted by Anheuser's board.

The combined company will now be called Anheuser-Busch InBev.

Anheuser makes Budweiser - the most popular beer in the US - and some US politicians had expressed anger at the prospect of a foreign takeover.

'Unrivalled brands'

In a concession to political concerns about the deal, Budweiser's headquarters will remain in St Louis, Missouri while none of Anheuser's US breweries will be closed.


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Stella, Budweiser, Beck's, Hoegaarden, Leffe, Brahma, Staropramen, Michelob, Rolling Rock

InBev is offering to pay $70 a share for Anheuser in a deal which must be approved by shareholders of both businesses.

The combined business will have annual sales of $36.4bn, equivalent to 46 billion litres of beer a year.

It will bring a host of popular brands including Beck's, Hoegaarden and Staropramen - in addition to Budweiser and Stella - under one roof.

InBev, itself formed by a giant merger several years ago, described the deal as "historic".

"Together, Anheuser-Busch and InBev will be able to accomplish much more than each can on its own," said InBev boss Carlos Brito, who will become chief executive of the new firm.

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Some of the famous Anheuser-Busch beers "This combination will create a stronger, more competitive global company with an unrivalled worldwide brand portfolio and distribution network, with great potential for growth all over the world."

Anheuser boss August Busch said the transaction would "enhance global market access for Budweiser, one of America's truly iconic brands".

Job concerns

There are widespread fears that the deal will lead to substantial job losses in the US Midwest at a time while the threat of recession is hanging over the economy.

The two firms have said the deal will generate annual savings of $1.5bn but have suggested that job losses will be kept to a minimum because there is little current overlap between the two businesses.

This agreement enhances global market access for Budweiser, one of America's true iconic brands
August Busch, Anheuser-Busch president
Anheuser currently controls nearly half of the US market, while InBev is strong in Western European and Latin American markets. Anheuser also owns stakes in Mexican brewer Grupo Modelo and Chinese brewer Tsingtao.

The deal should give Budweiser a platform to boost its growth in Europe where, apart from a number of markets like the UK, it has been relatively weak.

The beer market has been rapidly consolidating in the face of cost pressures and declining sales in many mature markets.

Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewer, was recently bought out by Heineken and Carlsberg.

So they purchased an American beer company, huh? Well, guess you guys who liked making fun of American beer can now make fun of Belgian beer instead.

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So they purchased an American beer company, huh? Well, guess you guys who liked making fun of American beer can now make fun of Belgian beer instead.

Or we could continue to insult other American beers, no need to get all hasty over it ;)

Budweiser is beer? Surely you are confusing it with Budvar.

When Belgium's buying out your country, you know you're in trouble.

It's bland, forgettable and lacks taste.

As for Budweiser...

I think you'll find this means Bud-wee-ser, (american dog piss) will be being controlled from europe, where the board will refuse to allow it to be brought onto the same market as the european Budweiser.

American dog piss Bud-wee-ser was first brewed in 1876 according to it's own website. A german company was exporting Budweiser bier to the US in 1875, so the american company can't claim prior art in Europe



And before you rip into me for dissing a beer without drinking it, yes I have drunk the US Budweiser, and I still reckon it's garbage.

So those who make Stella have taken over those that make Budweiser. We'll see if this makes either product much better. Until then I'll stick with my Carling, Corona, San Miguel and Heineken.

So those who make Stella have taken over those that make Budweiser. We'll see if this makes either product much better. Until then I'll stick with my Carling, Corona, San Miguel and Heineken.

...as if any of those are any better

...as if any of those are any better

Better than Budweiser ;)

HEATHENS!

*Returns to his jug of ale*

It's still an USian recipe brewed in USAmerica.

Can I just mention Brains SA?

...as if any of those are any better

San miguel is good. I dont think much of the rest of them though.

Budweiser will continue to have a weak presence in the European markets. Not only is it way too expensive for its inferior taste, but even the cheapest beers that can be found in European supermarkets are so much better. Mind you, here in the Netherlands we consider Heineken to be a somewhat decent, yet unspectacular beer, while Grolsch is pretty much what we expect from an enjoyable beer. The Belgians consider their beers to be superior to the Dutch beers, by the way.

So those who make Stella have taken over those that make Budweiser. We'll see if this makes either product much better. Until then I'll stick with my Carling, Corona, San Miguel and Heineken.

Carling's crap :p

San Miguel's not bad, though.

San miguel is good.
Meh...
I dont think much of the rest of them though.
Indeed. Hurrah for Kronenbourg!

It's still an USian recipe brewed in USAmerica.

Lol, we don't export the decent stuff. We have more than enough alcoholics here. ;)

Besides who still drinks Budweiser? I go with the better, regional/semi-national breweries. Shiner, Yuengling, Leinenkugel, Pyramid, Sierra Nevada, all good Stateside breweries.

I drink steel reserve. 50 cents for a 40 oz and it is 8.4% alcohol you cant beat that.

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So they purchased an American beer company, huh? Well, guess you guys who liked making fun of American beer can now make fun of Belgian beer instead.

Well no because it is still made in the US to US standards, tastes and the way they make beers, so it is still a shitty US beer. Now if production was changed to Belguim and made much more like a Belgium beer then yes maybe. Of course we can still pay out US beers because they didn't by every US beer brand now did they.

What you are saying is akin to saying that Rolls Royce is now German rather than English because it is owned by a German company now.

When Belgium's buying out your country, you know you're in trouble.

It's bland, forgettable and lacks taste.

Says the man who has drunk all the beers that they own.

Budweiser is awful. Stella Artois isn't that much better.

I prefer my local breweries. And by local, I mean, walking distance. I prefer going to any one of several microbreweries and getting a fresh, natural, tasty brew.

if you want to drink some beer that was mass produced in vats, shipped in vats, chemically modified to stay carbonated in vats, and tastes like vats, go ahead. There's a huge international conglomerate that specialises in that.

I prefer good beer.

The only beer there that's passable is Rolling Rock. Barely. It's not particularly strong or flavorful, but the flavor it does have is pleasant and it's got a refreshing crispness to it that makes it acceptable in a pinch.

The only beer there that's passable is Rolling Rock. Barely. It's not particularly strong or flavorful, but the flavor it does have is pleasant and it's got a refreshing crispness to it that makes it acceptable in a pinch.

Plenty of local microbreweries that make excellent beer in the US. If you have to drink something "in a pinch", then there's Samuel Adams.

Of course, in the Future, there will only be one beer - Borg beer. You will be assimilated.

Of course, in the Future, there will only be one beer - Borg beer. You will be assimilated.

Carlsborg, Kronenborg, Tuborg...I think it has begun

Of course, in the Future, there will only be one beer - Borg beer. You will be assimilated.

it has begun
http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/full_size/19599.jpg

Plenty of local microbreweries that make excellent beer in the US. If you have to drink something "in a pinch", then there's Samuel Adams.

Of course, in the Future, there will only be one beer - Borg beer. You will be assimilated.

ANd I DO drink Sam Adams. And my favorite microbrew is Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA.

I was referring to the list of beers in the OP. Of that list, the only tolerable beer was Rolling Rock.

ANd I DO drink Sam Adams. And my favorite microbrew is Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA.

I was referring to the list of beers in the OP. Of that list, the only tolerable beer was Rolling Rock.

rolling rock is not that good of a beer. Sam Adams however is not to shabby.

Budweiser will continue to have a weak presence in the European markets. Not only is it way too expensive for its inferior taste, but even the cheapest beers that can be found in European supermarkets are so much better. Mind you, here in the Netherlands we consider Heineken to be a somewhat decent, yet unspectacular beer, while Grolsch is pretty much what we expect from an enjoyable beer. The Belgians consider their beers to be superior to the Dutch beers, by the way.

The Heineken Americans get is furthermore even worse than the domestic product...

Rolling Rock was good stuff before Anheuser took them them over. As for no more American beer jokes, well how can you make jokes about American beer when it effectively doesn't exist anymore, outside of a carboy slowly bubbling in someone's basement?

When Belgium's buying out your country, you know you're in trouble.

It's bland, forgettable and lacks taste.

As for Budweiser...


It’s not Belgium that is buying Bud, but Inbev.
Inbev is a Belgian-Brazilian beer giant.

As for the Americans: no worries, now you’ll get a range of much better beer.
For the people at Bud: look for another job, you’ll be probably fired anyway.

The States have a bit of a weird situation, when you think of it. US beer originating from smaller breweries usually is decent to good, but the swill coming from the big breweries is only suitable for alcoholics. How did that happen?

The States have a bit of a weird situation, when you think of it. US beer originating from smaller breweries usually is decent to good, but the swill coming from the big breweries is only suitable for alcoholics. How did that happen?

it is a combination of having Irish and German Americans being poor as dirt.
but having a need for large amounts of alcohol intake.

so the big breweries made the cheapest beer they could and filled the demand.

They need to stop taxing beer so much. I can't afford the nice stuff. You know, the government in America charges more money for a liquor license depending on how much money your business makes. Its a progressive tax. Not to mention sin tax which adds like almost $2.00 to every six pack. I think the beer lovers of America need to band together and make a stand. REPEAL LIQUOR LAWS. No minimum drinking age, no more liquor licenses, no more open container in public laws, thats all dumb.

BTW Staropramen is the best beer East of Berlin. Czech Beer fucking rocks!

http://smoggarn.com/Bilder/staropramen.jpg

They need to stop taxing beer so much. I can't afford the nice stuff. You know, the government in America charges more money for a liquor license depending on how much money your business makes. Its a progressive tax. Not to mention sin tax which adds like almost $2.00 to every six pack. I think the beer lovers of America need to band together and make a stand. REPEAL LIQUOR LAWS. No minimum drinking age, no more liquor licenses, no more open container in public laws, thats all dumb.

you should see some of the European taxes. though drink 40 ozs they get taxed the least per ounce.

The States have a bit of a weird situation, when you think of it. US beer originating from smaller breweries usually is decent to good, but the swill coming from the big breweries is only suitable for alcoholics. How did that happen?
prohabition.



Out of the A-B inventory, I frequently drink Bud Light, as it is cheap. Also, it is good for nights we play drinking games as it is incredibly light and doesn't fill one up. I never drink from the Michelob family, sometimes the Busch family, and rarely the Natural family. Sometimes I'll have their seasonals, especially Jack's Pumpkin Spice.

As for InBev, I've had Stella, sometimes Bass, Boddingtons, the Franziskaner family, Hoegaarden, Beck's, the Labatt family, Leffe, and Spaten.

Overall, I'd say that both have their piss-poor examples, as well as some good to very good selections, and I don't see the merger changing much of anything.

The States have a bit of a weird situation, when you think of it. US beer originating from smaller breweries usually is decent to good, but the swill coming from the big breweries is only suitable for alcoholics. How did that happen?

Alcoholics are more regular customers who drink more product, and aren't willing to spend extra on the beer.

If you want to taste your beer, you're not likely to drink it all at once in a 12-pack.

prohabition.



Out of the A-B inventory, I frequently drink Bud Light, as it is cheap. Also, it is good for nights we play drinking games as it is incredibly light and doesn't fill one up. I never drink from the Michelob family, sometimes the Busch family, and rarely the Natural family. Sometimes I'll have their seasonals, especially Jack's Pumpkin Spice.

As for InBev, I've had Stella, sometimes Bass, Boddingtons, the Franziskaner family, Hoegaarden, Beck's, the Labatt family, Leffe, and Spaten.

Overall, I'd say that both have their piss-poor examples, as well as some good to very good selections, and I don't see the merger changing much of anything.

Amber Bock is about the only major U.S. brewery beer that I will drink. I think thats michelob. I;m not sure.

Stella is excellent beer. Hoegaarden is to herbal-tasting for me, but did you know that its been made since the 14th century. That beer recipe predates almost all modern governments.

So they purchased an American beer company, huh? Well, guess you guys who liked making fun of American beer can now make fun of Belgian beer instead.

Only if they leave Budweiser in it's current watery, piss-yellow state. For Belgians to allow that would be insanely worthy of ridicule.

Amber Bock is about the only major U.S. brewery beer that I will drink. I think thats michelob. I;m not sure.

Yup. The corporate breweries have tried to cash in on the success of microbreweries for a while now. Try an actual bock or amber (they are different beers, which is part of my rejection of Michelob's attempt) from import or at a local microbrewery and you will notice the difference.

Stella is excellent beer. Hoegaarden is to herbal-tasting for me, but did you know that its been made since the 14th century. That beer recipe predates almost all modern governments.

Hoegaarden's name alone got me to try it. The taste got it into regular rotation.

The best beer in the world is still Westvleteren (http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/brouwerij.htm) and Belgian.

Yup. The corporate breweries have tried to cash in on the success of microbreweries for a while now. Try an actual bock or amber (they are different beers, which is part of my rejection of Michelob's attempt) from import or at a local microbrewery and you will notice the difference.


Oh, don't get me wrong, my favorite is Shiner Bock from Texas. But rather than rejecting Michelob's attempt at battling the micro-market, I believe in trying and judging each beer by its own merits, not where it came from and/or who makes it. The same goes for music and cars.

They need to stop taxing beer so much. I can't afford the nice stuff. You know, the government in America charges more money for a liquor license depending on how much money your business makes. Its a progressive tax. Not to mention sin tax which adds like almost $2.00 to every six pack. I think the beer lovers of America need to band together and make a stand. REPEAL LIQUOR LAWS. No minimum drinking age, no more liquor licenses, no more open container in public laws, thats all dumb.

you should see some of the European taxes. though drink 40 ozs they get taxed the least per ounce.

Boo-hoo. You want to talk about insane tax pricing on beer and liquor? You want to talk about "control"? I suggest you visit Ontario first before either of you bitch about the tax you pay on beer.

Despite that drinking age is 19 years old, we are not able to buy beer anywhere but at the Beer Store (aka, Brewer's Retail until the name changed) and the LCBO. Everywhere else in Canada you can get it in the corner and grocery stores, likewise in America you don't have the same level of insane control. The irony of course being that the corner stores can sell other controlled products like tobacco and fireworks.

Not only can you only buy it from certain locations but the LCBO is a provincial monopoly and the Beer Store is a private monopoly run by a group of major 'Canadian' brewers and one Japanese brewery (Sapporo I think).

On top of that, when you go to buy beer; the total cost is 20% more than anywhere else in Canada and that's because they believe it will curb binge drinking. Our taxes are messed up; our system is corrupt.

It's impossible to find craft and imported beer in the Beer Store; they cater to people who don't have taste buds.

The LCBO despite being a state monopoly at least carries foreign brands. But even still, the price of alcohol and beer is way above what it's worth because of our alcohol laws.

Just remember, just because you think your situation is bad, doesn't mean there isn't someone else who has it worse.

Of course, we could be a dry country like Saudi Arabia...

Oh, don't get me wrong, my favorite is Shiner Bock from Texas. But rather than rejecting Michelob's attempt at battling the micro-market, I believe in trying and judging each beer by its own merits, not where it came from and/or who makes it. The same goes for music and cars.

I spent the summer of 2003 in Austin discovering, and then LIVING ON, Shiner Bock. Great stuff.

Only if they leave Budweiser in it's current watery, piss-yellow state. For Belgians to allow that would be insanely worthy of ridicule.

Eh, it really doesn't matter to me either way, not being a beer drinker. (Or any alcohol for that matter.)

Amber Bock is about the only major U.S. brewery beer that I will drink. I think thats michelob. I;m not sure.It is. I've never tried any of the Michelob family except for a few sips when they are offered. None have really appealed to me. Advertising is a strong force :)

Stella is excellent beer.
I find it to be maybe a step up from Budweiser. For me, it just isn't that great. Add to that the fact that it is an import and costs more, and I'd rather just have a bud heavy.
Hoegaarden is to herbal-tasting for me, but did you know that its been made since the 14th century. That beer recipe predates almost all modern governments.
I'm a fan of it, but only in certain situations (as with most others of the type)
Despite that drinking age is 19 years old, we are not able to buy beer anywhere but at the Beer Store (aka, Brewer's Retail until the name changed) and the LCBO. Everywhere else in Canada you can get it in the corner and grocery stores, likewise in America you don't have the same level of insane control. The irony of course being that the corner stores can sell other controlled products like tobacco and fireworks.
We don't? Really? Aside from the drinking age being 21 nation-wide, and many communities being dry, it depends on the state. In MA, you can't buy alcohol in grocery stores, only liquor stores. Only two drinks may be served per ID, and many bars have only a Cordial licence, which allows wine, beer, and cordials (jagermeister, malibu...anything with high sugar content, pretty much) In PA, you must buy beer in a beer store, liquor in a liquor store, and wine in a wine store. In VT, all liquor stores are state run. In CT, you cannot buy on Sundays or after 9 PM. Grocery stores may carry beer, but cannot carry liquor or wine.

It varies heavily by state.


Yup. The corporate breweries have tried to cash in on the success of microbreweries for a while now. Try an actual bock or amber (they are different beers, which is part of my rejection of Michelob's attempt) from import or at a local microbrewery and you will notice the difference.
Some have actually done a decent job, such as Coor's Blue Moon family

Boo-hoo. You want to talk about insane tax pricing on beer and liquor? You want to talk about "control"? I suggest you visit Ontario first before either of you bitch about the tax you pay on beer.

Despite that drinking age is 19 years old, we are not able to buy beer anywhere but at the Beer Store (aka, Brewer's Retail until the name changed) and the LCBO. Everywhere else in Canada you can get it in the corner and grocery stores, likewise in America you don't have the same level of insane control. The irony of course being that the corner stores can sell other controlled products like tobacco and fireworks.

Not only can you only buy it from certain locations but the LCBO is a provincial monopoly and the Beer Store is a private monopoly run by a group of major 'Canadian' brewers and one Japanese brewery (Sapporo I think).

On top of that, when you go to buy beer; the total cost is 20% more than anywhere else in Canada and that's because they believe it will curb binge drinking. Our taxes are messed up; our system is corrupt.

It's impossible to find craft and imported beer in the Beer Store; they cater to people who don't have taste buds.

The LCBO despite being a state monopoly at least carries foreign brands. But even still, the price of alcohol and beer is way above what it's worth because of our alcohol laws.

Just remember, just because you think your situation is bad, doesn't mean there isn't someone else who has it worse.

Of course, we could be a dry country like Saudi Arabia...
there is a reason Ontario was voted most backward place in all of the developed world that and bagged milk is it.

Saudi alcohol was pretty cheap. since you cant tax something if it is outlawed.

The best beer in the world is still Westvleteren (http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/brouwerij.htm) and Belgian.

I'll be the judge of that!

Except that I never will, because Westvleteren is almost impossible to get. :(

it is a combination of having Irish and German Americans being poor as dirt.
but having a need for large amounts of alcohol intake.

so the big breweries made the cheapest beer they could and filled the demand.

It's also a product of prohibition. A lot of smaller breweries went under during that time, and that led to piss-sellers like Budweiser and Coors getting a huge amount of the market.

I personally think it's a bit unfair to judge American beer by such huge mass produced brands. There is plenty of good American beer. You just have to look past the big, well advertised brands to get to it. Anything by Lagunitas, Sierra Nevada, Anchor, Stone, Rogue, North Coast and Mendocino breweries is pretty good stuff.

At least the Belgians make beer better than they make governments (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7507370.stm).

Better than Budweiser ;)

In the same way that being stabbed in the hand is better than being stabbed in the eye. Either way, it sucks.

They need to stop taxing beer so much. I can't afford the nice stuff. You know, the government in America charges more money for a liquor license depending on how much money your business makes. Its a progressive tax. Not to mention sin tax which adds like almost $2.00 to every six pack. I think the beer lovers of America need to band together and make a stand. REPEAL LIQUOR LAWS. No minimum drinking age, no more liquor licenses, no more open container in public laws, thats all dumb.

You know those are all state laws, not Federal laws, right?

Or we could continue to insult other American beers, no need to get all hasty over it ;)

Indeed.

I mean, no offense, Amercians like their beer to be Amerocan and what-not, I'm not contesting that. But I don't like the taste of their beer one bit. Too watery for me. Nevertheless, I'm not much of a beer fan anyway...

...as if any of those are any better

Beat me to it, damn it.

I really don't understand the whole "Your beer sucks" "No your beer sucks" thing between the U.S. and Europe (the one between the U.S. and Canada is more sibling rivalry in my mind ;)). Every country has big-brand piss beer that appeals to the masses--Budweiser, Heineken, Corona--and every country has quality beer and microbrews that beer lovers/snobs drink.

Indeed.

I mean, no offense, Amercians like their beer to be Amerocan and what-not, I'm not contesting that. But I don't like the taste of their beer one bit. Too watery for me. Nevertheless, I'm not much of a beer fan anyway...

Though there is a standard "American beer", of course, it is not what those well-versed in beer drink in the U.S. I am not at all a beer aficionado, but I certainly never drink Coors, MGD or Budweiser. Beer in America spans a wide spectrum--I guarantee you can find a beer in the U.S. you'd like, especially in places where there are many microbreweries, like California. The "standard" Californian beer is not watery at all, it's far too hoppy for my tastes, but even in CA there's a wide range. A place near me does a lovely Hefe and a delicate orange blossom cream that is perfect on a hot summer afternoon.

I'll stick with Shiner Bock and Shiner Black - American beers that are just as good as or better than European beers (and yes, I've drunk beer in many countries). Just stay away from the Asian "beer."

Boo-hoo. You want to talk about insane tax pricing on beer and liquor? You want to talk about "control"? I suggest you visit Ontario first before either of you bitch about the tax you pay on beer.

Despite that drinking age is 19 years old, we are not able to buy beer anywhere but at the Beer Store (aka, Brewer's Retail until the name changed) and the LCBO. Everywhere else in Canada you can get it in the corner and grocery stores, likewise in America you don't have the same level of insane control. The irony of course being that the corner stores can sell other controlled products like tobacco and fireworks.

Not only can you only buy it from certain locations but the LCBO is a provincial monopoly and the Beer Store is a private monopoly run by a group of major 'Canadian' brewers and one Japanese brewery (Sapporo I think).

On top of that, when you go to buy beer; the total cost is 20% more than anywhere else in Canada and that's because they believe it will curb binge drinking. Our taxes are messed up; our system is corrupt.

It's impossible to find craft and imported beer in the Beer Store; they cater to people who don't have taste buds.

The LCBO despite being a state monopoly at least carries foreign brands. But even still, the price of alcohol and beer is way above what it's worth because of our alcohol laws.

Just remember, just because you think your situation is bad, doesn't mean there isn't someone else who has it worse.

Of course, we could be a dry country like Saudi Arabia...

Thats lame. Pssh, I don't care if we're talking about beer, cocaine, penicillin or Suda-ephedrine. Laws that restrict drug use are bullshit. Yay personal freedom!

Though there is a standard "American beer", of course, it is not what those well-versed in beer drink in the U.S. I am not at all a beer aficionado, but I certainly never drink Coors, MGD or Budweiser. Beer in America spans a wide spectrum--I guarantee you can find a beer in the U.S. you'd like, especially in places where there are many microbreweries, like California. The "standard" Californian beer is not watery at all, it's far too hoppy for my tastes, but even in CA there's a wide range. A place near me does a lovely Hefe and a delicate orange blossom cream that is perfect on a hot summer afternoon.

I'm sure you have good beer, I'm just not a beer fan. And since I grew up on European beer, that, if at all, is what I like.

Sam Adams, now that's a beer I can respect.:p

The Belgians consider their beers to be superior to the Dutch beers, by the way.
...and they'd be right.

Hurrah for Kronenbourg (Blanc)!
Better...:)

Budweiser is to beer what Franzia Chillable Red is to wine.

Better...:)

Kronenbourg Blanc makes me want to die. They took a watered down piss-beer and watered it down even more. Pelforth is a far superior French beer.

I had a beer in Krakow that kinda tasted like vomit. Looked like it too, come to think of it...

I had a beer in Krakow that kinda tasted like vomit. Looked like it too, come to think of it...
That's what you get for drinking Wriekraswieczzzzzzzzz, "The beer that goes down like it comes up."

Indeed.

I mean, no offense, Amercians like their beer to be Amerocan and what-not, I'm not contesting that. But I don't like the taste of their beer one bit. Too watery for me. Nevertheless, I'm not much of a beer fan anyway...

Budweiser and Coors are watery and not worth drinking. But big name Spanish beer is not much better (and yes, I have had it, when I was there). Most high quality American beer is not watery, if anything it's a bit too intense (Mendocino brewery's products come to mind, with their "kick you in the face!" bitterness). I myself am partial to Anchor beers.

Canadian is an American beer.

I'll make cracks about it all I want.

All beer is crap. Be it American, European, or what have you.





*runs from thread before the alcies can attack*

All beer is crap. Be it American, European, or what have you.





*runs from thread before the alcies can attack*
It's definitely an acquired taste.

I had to acquire it because I made myself sick on so many different hard liquors.

Now I adore beer. From microbreweries mostly.

It's definitely an acquired taste.

My sister said that once. My response...


It is so bad why would you want to acquire it?

The States have a bit of a weird situation, when you think of it. US beer originating from smaller breweries usually is decent to good, but the swill coming from the big breweries is only suitable for alcoholics. How did that happen?

Basically the same thing that happens in Europe.

My sister said that once. My response...


It is so bad why would you want to acquire it?

Wine is a acquired taste too.

As for your sister she doesn't sound like she is any fun.

Wine is a acquired taste too.

As for your sister she doesn't sound like she is any fun.

I think you misread O_o. She drinks. I was just pointing out how she said the same sorta thing as Neesika.

So they purchased an American beer company, huh? Well, guess you guys who liked making fun of American beer can now make fun of Belgian beer instead.
Dude, like half the beer companies in the world are owned by a Belgium company. It doesn't change the fact that Belgian beer is some of the most delicious (there are good beers that come from other countries too, but in Canada and the US it's just the microbrews) in the world and Budweiser (the non-Czech Bud) tastes like piss.

It also doesn't change the fact that Americans (and Canadians are guilty of this too to a lesser extent) are absolute pussies when it comes to beer, basically preferring to drink something that has no aftertaste or much taste at all... it's like the beer for people who don't actually like beer (but at least Canadian beer has alcohol in it instead of basically being water :P).