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Does anybody else find NSG sad?

South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 06:36
I find it really sad that someone can sit down and type something like "Ime rite ur wrong, christans and joos are teh cause of all badness and iff you deesagree u are teh stupit ebil rapeist na i terrorist hoo is ebil and nasty and wrong". Then a flamefight ensues.
I dunno about other "debates" outside NSG that are like that though. :rolleyes:
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 06:38
2 years ago, NSG was reasonable.
South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 06:40
2 years ago, NSG was reasonable.

Yeah, I miss the old days. :( Back then going here was like an educational experience. Now we're all at teh mercy of the cyber mob.
Conserative Morality
12-07-2008, 06:41
They usually make the wording fancier.*nods all-knowingly*
RhynoDedede
12-07-2008, 06:42
It started going downhill right about the time of the move to Jolt.

Personally, I find NSG amusing.
South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 06:44
It started going downhill right about the time of the move to Jolt.

Personally, I find NSG amusing.

Quite so. NSG is like a raving lunatic, amusing up until he/she ends up chasing you. *nods*
RhynoDedede
12-07-2008, 06:47
Quite so. NSG is like a raving lunatic, amusing up until he/she ends up chasing you. *nods*

It's still amusing. You just have to realize that it's the internet, so the raving lunatic can't actually get to you. And if it ever actually does, that's stalking and you can sue.
Indri
12-07-2008, 06:48
Mormons, Scientologists, Socialists, and environmental radicals are the cause of all badness and if you disagree with me you're a stupid, evil parasite and probably a terrorist sympathizer.

Only a Mormon, Scientologist, Socialist, environmental extremist, terrorist sympathizer, or Sith deals in absolutes. There are heroes and there are criminals, there are no innocents.
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 06:48
Yeah, I miss the old days. :( Back then going here was like an educational experience. Now we're all at teh mercy of the cyber mob.

Back in the good 'ol days of DCD, FAG, and those that even cared to argue, one could have an argument for ages without a flame war.

Now, threads start with a flame war. :p
RhynoDedede
12-07-2008, 06:50
Back in the good 'ol days of DCD, FAG, and those that even cared to argue, one could have an argument for ages without a flame war.

Now, threads start with a flame war. :p

So who's old-school enough to remember Jap? Anybody? Eh?
South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 06:55
Mormons, Scientologists, Socialists, and environmental radicals are the cause of all badness and if you disagree with me you're a stupid, evil parasite and probably a terrorist sympathizer.

Only a Mormon, Scientologist, Socialist, environmental extremist, terrorist sympathizer, or Sith deals in absolutes. There are heroes and there are criminals, there are no innocents.

LOL I agree. Those people rape puppies and eat babies. They must be stopped. *nodS*
Conserative Morality
12-07-2008, 06:56
Ack, stop yelling about how Back in the day it was better. There is still rational debate on NSG, without it turning into a flame war. There ARE still people who are willing to debate a subject without flaming or being condescending. Heck, I had a rational debate with Andaras. That was a while ago, but there wasn't any flaming involved, nor any "ZOMG!1! Communist!" Or "U R teh ebil Capitalist opressorsz!1111!11!". It was a calm exchange of ideas, arguments and counter arguments.

Of course, since then, I've had some trouble with Andaras...

Even so. Rational debate still exists on NSG, you only have to look.
Intangelon
12-07-2008, 06:57
I've learned quite a lot here and met a lot of terrific, intelligent, eloquent posters with a lot to say. It's only sad if you let it be sad. Don't feed trolls, and life is good.
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 06:58
Ack, stop yelling about how Back in the day it was better. There is still rational debate on NSG, without it turning into a flame war. There ARE still people who are willing to debate a subject without flaming or being condescending. Heck, I had a rational debate with Andaras. That was a while ago, but there wasn't any flaming involved, nor any "ZOMG!1! Communist!" Or "U R teh ebil Capitalist opressorsz!1111!11!". It was a calm exchange of ideas, arguments and counter arguments.

Of course, since then, I've had some trouble with Andaras...

Even so. Rational debate still exists on NSG, you only have to look.

I don't have all night. :D

I'm not whining or yelling or anything. There are people who are reasonable, certainly. There's just less of them.
South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 06:59
I don't have all night. :D

I'm not whining or yelling or anything. There are people who are reasonable, certainly. There's just less of them.

It's like monroeville on urbandead. There are less survivors, the majority are now a bunch of ravenous zombies bent on turning all into their kind. :D
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 07:02
It's like monroeville on urbandead. There are less survivors, the majority are now a bunch of ravenous zombies bent on turning all into their kind. :D

I think if there was more spam, we'd all be a bit better off. :p
Brutland and Norden
12-07-2008, 07:04
:(
IL Ruffino
12-07-2008, 07:09
I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Lackadaisical2
12-07-2008, 07:15
If its sad its only because on most issues, the main debaters have already well, debated, and then people make shitty threads like this one. I don't mind the occasional silly BS thread, they can be quite enjoyable- but this is just a waste of time, and counter productive. If you think NS is gettin sucky post something good and debate people about it. Of course this brings into question why I would respond to something so useless...
South Lizasauria
12-07-2008, 07:16
If its sad its only because on most issues, the main debaters have already well, debated, and then people make shitty threads like this one. I don't mind the occasional silly BS thread, they can be quite enjoyable- but this is just a waste of time, and counter productive. If you think NS is gettin sucky post something good and debate people about it. Of course this brings into question why I would respond to something so useless...

Oh cmon, you aren't seriously telling me that this thread isn't in the least amusing are you???
Conserative Morality
12-07-2008, 07:19
Oh cmon, you aren't seriously telling me that this thread isn't in the least amusing are you???

I actually find this thread very amusing. The irony, I mean, it burns! *Iz burned by the irony of this thread*
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 07:20
If its sad its only because on most issues, the main debaters have already well, debated, and then people make shitty threads like this one. I don't mind the occasional silly BS thread, they can be quite enjoyable- but this is just a waste of time, and counter productive. If you think NS is gettin sucky post something good and debate people about it. Of course this brings into question why I would respond to something so useless...

Then why haven't you started your own thread yet? :p

Honestly, I agree with you, but it is the dog days of summer in a long and dreary political year. There really hasn't been many snippets of anything new to debate, but I'm sure as August rolls around, and we get all these meaningless primaries out of the way, there will be much more to discuss.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:13
2 years ago, NSG was reasonable.

You're what incarnation again? Do you have any proof of your claims? :p
Luna Amore
12-07-2008, 08:15
Is it just me or has this type of thread popped up every year for the past five years?
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:16
Is it just me or has this type of thread popped up every year for the past five years?
Nostalgia runs deep and persuasive, like a chancre.
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:17
You're what incarnation again? Do you have any proof of your claims? :p

I actually first started on NSG in 2005, but I really didn't do much. Then, I made another nation in late 2006 out of near complete boredom.

I can't really prove what I'm saying... I mean, I don't think anyone remembers my old nations. I can say, though, I started my last one around the time Wilgrove started. I think.

>.>
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:21
I actually first started on NSG in 2005, but I really didn't do much. Then, I made another nation in late 2006 out of near complete boredom...... so, is this, for you, kinda like that part in Bee Movie where he's working on getting out the window? :p

I can't really prove what I'm saying... I mean, I don't think anyone remembers my old nations.A consonant or two might help.
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:24
..... so, is this, for you, kinda like that part in Bee Movie where he's working on getting out the window? :p

I didn't see that movie. *blink*

A consonant or two might help.

Remember Christmahaniwkanzikah? (Enough consonants for ya? :D)

I thought not. :p
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:38
I didn't see that movie. *blink*It was in the commercial too ... but not a bad flick ... just not enough pollination.

Remember Christmahaniwkanzikah? (Enough consonants for ya? :D) Yes, of course i do!


.... you owe me $. j/k. I do remember the name though, given the "holidays"
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:39
it Was In The Commercial Too ... But Not A Bad Flick ... Just Not Enough Pollination.
Yes, Of Course I Do!


.... You Owe Me $. j/k. I Do Remember The Name Though, Given The "holidays"

Xd
Wilgrove
12-07-2008, 08:43
This thread reminds me of when old men rant about the good ol' days.

"Why in my days, you could rent a hooker for $1 and men were men, and women were women."

Basically, no one cares, so shut up and take your medicine grandpa. The nurse will be in shortly to change your depends.
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:45
Old men don't get Depends in hospitals. They get catheters.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:48
Xd
You've.Got.To.Be.Kidding.
!
I remember a huge uproar a while back about the nature of a persons' posting, to which, iirc, i commented something along the lines of even though it's not smooth reading, there's no legitimate reason to go on a bender of criticism about it - it was just an unusual manner of posting.
Some time around then? :p
Wilgrove
12-07-2008, 08:51
Old men don't get Depends in hospitals. They get catheters.

Actually it depends on whether or not their urinary tract or sphincter of the rectum still function correctly. *nod*
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:52
You've.Got.To.Be.Kidding.
!
I remember a huge uproar a while back about the nature of a persons' posting, to which, iirc, i commented something along the lines of even though it's not smooth reading, there's no legitimate reason to go on a bender of criticism about it - it was just an unusual manner of posting.
Some time around then? :p

It's 12:51am and you're asking me to remember something?! :p

Also, that's supposed to be "XD"

>.>
<.<
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 08:53
Actually it depends on whether or not their urinary tract or sphincter of the rectum still function correctly. *nod*

Hell of a lot better than having a colostomy bag.

"Hey, nurse! I'll give you shit for last night's dinner!"

:D
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-07-2008, 08:53
I'm not finding NSG any different now than it was 2-3 years ago, except the names have changed.

Maybe that's your problem.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 08:57
sphincter of the rectum still functionShould have some worries if you're an elderly german woman ....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,339270,00.html
Bullitt Point
12-07-2008, 09:00
Should have some worries if you're an elderly german woman ....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,339270,00.html

Lawl, FoxNews link. :p

The surgeon must've been an atheist liberal terrorist-supporting gay. Because it's on FoxNews. :D
Shayamalan
12-07-2008, 09:09
Really, you're dealing with a bunch of people who are already convinced that their opinion is gospel truth and that anyone who disagrees must have some sort of mental problem. Those kinds of people, no matter what opinion they have, are pompous, arrogant a-holes. You will never get intelligent debate out of them.

Unfortunately, NSG tends to attract such people, especially a bunch of them that I vehemently disagree with. But, for some reason, I come here anyway.

Go figure.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 09:14
Really, you're dealing with a bunch of people who are already convinced that their opinion is gospel truth and that anyone who disagrees must have some sort of mental problem. Those kinds of people, no matter what opinion they have, are pompous, arrogant a-holes. You will never get intelligent debate out of them.

Unfortunately, NSG tends to attract such people, especially a bunch of them that I vehemently disagree with. But, for some reason, I come here anyway.

Go figure.
Masochist or Quixote.
Isn't there a pic somewhere of this kind of poster? :p
Lackadaisical2
12-07-2008, 10:00
Then why haven't you started your own thread yet? :p

Honestly, I agree with you, but it is the dog days of summer in a long and dreary political year. There really hasn't been many snippets of anything new to debate, but I'm sure as August rolls around, and we get all these meaningless primaries out of the way, there will be much more to discuss.

I've started a few threads of some substance recently. Though admittedly the last one was kinda stretching it. Its a lot more contribution than all the lurking I've been doing in the past...
Callisdrun
12-07-2008, 10:01
2 years ago, NSG was reasonable.

No it wasn't.

People always glorify the past, but the thing is, NSG was never good.
Calarca
12-07-2008, 10:32
It's still amusing. You just have to realize that it's the internet, so the raving lunatic can't actually get to you. And if it ever actually does, that's stalking and you can sue.

thats variable depending on the location, some places it's a reason to fear for your life, pull out a piston and legally ventilate the sod (texas), other places you can hire a couple of sicaro's to give him a terminal lesson with a cut-throat (literally) razor (columbia), or you can walk down a dark alley and ambush him with an illegal pistol and let the cops call it a drug deal gone bad and ignore it past delivering the corpse to the morgue (washington DC).
Remote Guppies
12-07-2008, 11:26
It's like monroeville on urbandead. There are less survivors, the majority are now a bunch of ravenous zombies bent on turning all into their kind. :D

And all the rescue parties are like having candy thrown to you every 5 minutes.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-07-2008, 11:34
I find it really sad that someone can sit down and type something like "Ime rite ur wrong, christans and joos are teh cause of all badness and iff you deesagree u are teh stupit ebil rapeist na i terrorist hoo is ebil and nasty and wrong". Then a flamefight ensues.
I dunno about other "debates" outside NSG that are like that though. :rolleyes:

*swats you with pies for 20 minutes*

I do what I can, however I am but one clown.
Soheran
12-07-2008, 11:39
I dunno about other "debates" outside NSG that are like that though.

The ones on here aren't like that, either.
Hachihyaku
12-07-2008, 12:02
It does get a bit sad yes, and I have little patience for it.
Barringtonia
12-07-2008, 12:45
Personally, I find most answers fairly reasonable and either funny or pertinent. There's, of course, some that are either trolling or naive and perhaps too many people jump on these as an easy target for attack.

Yet, like much of the Internet, the generally intelligent answers shine through and influence the overall opinion of the entire board.

The Internet is a great resource for opinions from all over the world, perhaps dominated by America for sure, but it's often a remainder that there are different opinions held by different people.

Is NSG sad? Perhaps, but then I feel that forums are the bottom feeders of opinion, most varied, most diverse, yet the basis of of forming the culturally accepted standards of our time.
SoWiBi
12-07-2008, 14:53
Back in the good 'ol days of DCD, FAG, and those that even cared to argue, one could have an argument for ages without a flame war.

Now, threads start with a flame war. :p


a) Flame wars have been an integral part of NSG "arguing" forever.

b) The "old days" of FAG? Jeez, there's not even grass growing on his grave yet.
New Limacon
12-07-2008, 15:04
Back in the Good Old Days (or GOD), I remember people used to never whine about how great things in the GOD.
Katganistan
12-07-2008, 15:30
I find it really sad that someone can sit down and type something like "Ime rite ur wrong, christans and joos are teh cause of all badness and iff you deesagree u are teh stupit ebil rapeist na i terrorist hoo is ebil and nasty and wrong". Then a flamefight ensues.
I dunno about other "debates" outside NSG that are like that though. :rolleyes:

*spanks South Lizasauria with soggy spaghetti*
That'll larn ya ta diss NSG!

Even so. Rational debate still exists on NSG, you only have to look.

Not quite. You have only to be rational and debate, too, instead of pulling out the nifty bag o' ad hominems(tm) and letting fly.
Deus Malum
12-07-2008, 16:06
Not quite. You have only to be rational and debate, too, instead of pulling out the nifty bag o' ad hominems(tm) and letting fly.

How about a bag o' pies, instead?
Conserative Morality
12-07-2008, 16:06
Not quite. You have only to be rational and debate, too, instead of pulling out the nifty bag o' ad hominems(tm) and letting fly.

True, true...
Katganistan
12-07-2008, 16:07
Is it just me or has this type of thread popped up every year for the past five years?

Not just you.
Been here all five years.
SSDY

I didn't see that movie. *blink*



Remember Christmahaniwkanzikah?
Yes.

This thread reminds me of when old men rant about the good ol' days.

"Why in my days, you could rent a hooker for $1 and men were men, and women were women."

Basically, no one cares, so shut up and take your medicine grandpa. The nurse will be in shortly to change your depends.

This comment is akin to "Get a Blog" which gets shouted at someone with great frequency... can't seem to remember who...

How about a bag o' pies, instead?

Studying with LG, I see.
Deus Malum
12-07-2008, 16:23
Studying with LG, I see.

I'm more learning by observation, than anything.
Neo Art
12-07-2008, 17:27
This comment is akin to "Get a Blog" which gets shouted at someone with great frequency... can't seem to remember who...

/threadwin
CthulhuFhtagn
12-07-2008, 17:48
Back in the good 'ol days of DCD, FAG, and those that even cared to argue, one could have an argument for ages without a flame war.


Don't mind me, I'm just laughing uproariously at this post for reasons of my own.
Liuzzo
12-07-2008, 18:55
Ack, stop yelling about how Back in the day it was better. There is still rational debate on NSG, without it turning into a flame war. There ARE still people who are willing to debate a subject without flaming or being condescending. Heck, I had a rational debate with Andaras. That was a while ago, but there wasn't any flaming involved, nor any "ZOMG!1! Communist!" Or "U R teh ebil Capitalist opressorsz!1111!11!". It was a calm exchange of ideas, arguments and counter arguments.

Of course, since then, I've had some trouble with Andaras...

Even so. Rational debate still exists on NSG, you only have to look.

Evey couple of years I see the same thread. "I am nostalgic for..." Claiming FAG, MTAE, etc. was intelligent debate is kind of silly. You can still debate on NSG is you focus on people making points. CTOAN, Jocobia, CH, Neo Art, and others are great to debate with. Please don't get offended if I left you off this list. NSG is what you make of it.
The Alma Mater
12-07-2008, 19:23
I find it really sad that someone can sit down and type something like "Ime rite ur wrong, christans and joos are teh cause of all badness and iff you deesagree u are teh stupit ebil rapeist na i terrorist hoo is ebil and nasty and wrong". Then a flamefight ensues.
I dunno about other "debates" outside NSG that are like that though. :rolleyes:

No topic can be complete without someone posting a semi-relevant webcomic picture without contributing much in writing.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

And of course:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/internet_argument.png

ALT text: It's easier to be an asshole to words than to people.