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Karl Rove Scrams

Dragontide
11-07-2008, 21:54
Link with video included (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/10/rove-avoids-subpoena-by-fleeing-the-country/)
Rove avoids subpoena by fleeing the country.
This morning, Karl Rove refused to appear before the House Judiciary Committee to testify about the politicization of the Justice Department, despite a subpoena. During the hearing, Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT) revealed that Rove had not only skipped out of the hearing, but had skipped out of the entire country.

When ThinkProgress contacted Rove’s lawyer, his office confirmed that Rove was out of the country “on trip scheduled long before the subpoena was sent.” Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) said Rove’s attorney “never mentioned” this trip to the committee. Rove’s bogus claims of executive privilege were rejected by the Committee as “not valid” by a 7-1 vote. The committee gave Rove five days to comply with the subpoena

One of the things the subpoena is about the selective prosecution of former Alabama Governor Don Seigleman.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/How_Bush_US_attorney_riddled_with_0401.html

During the mid-90s, a series of state lawsuits against the tobacco industry delivered a heavy blow to American business interests in the South.

Initiated by Mississippi Attorney General Mike Moore, they sought compensation for the costs of smoking-related diseases. Other state attorneys general joined the suit, and eventually the industry was forced to settle, culminating in a Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement that exempted the tobacco companies from liability in exchange for a $246 billion dollar payment and other concessions – the largest settlement in US history.

Alabama, however, refused to join the lawsuits. The decision, by the state’s Republican governor and then-Attorney General William Pryor, led to a political firestorm.

The conflict was a major factor in then-Democratic Lieut. Gov. Don Siegelman’s election as governor in 1998. Almost as soon as Siegelman took office, however, Pryor initiated a series of corruption investigations against him. After the Bush administration took office in 2001, these state probes were elevated to the federal level at the hands of US Attorney Leura Canary. As reported in The Permanent Republican Majority – Part Three, Rove and Canary also helped promote the Siegelman investigations.

In neighboring Mississippi, meanwhile, the tobacco suit had produced several extremely wealthy trial lawyers, who became major funders of the local Democratic Party.

In 2003, a Bush-appointed US Attorney, Dunnica Lampton (above right), brought federal charges against one of those lawyers, plaintiff’s attorney Paul Minor, alleging that he had bribed a Mississippi Supreme Court Justice, Judge Oliver E. Diaz, Jr.

Just as in the case of Governor Don Siegelman in Alabama, when the first trial of Diaz failed to produce the desired result of removing him from his elected seat in 2005, fresh charges were brought almost immediately.

This is eventually going to get Bush, Rove, and other top Republicans thrown in jail. That has been my story for a long time and I'm sticking to it.
Fleckenstein
11-07-2008, 21:55
The only way they will get him is if they use inherent contempt, which they won't because they are pussies.
Intangelon
11-07-2008, 21:58
I don't HAVE to tell you anything about illegal stuff I did. I'm SPECIAL!

And yet $40mil was spent on the prosecution of Bill Clinton for a blowjob.

The hypocrisy is blinding.
Setulan
11-07-2008, 22:03
Oh, how I hope they get time in the slammer.
Don't think it will happen though :(
Fleckenstein
11-07-2008, 22:06
Oh, how I hope they get time in the slammer.
Don't think it will happen though :(

It won't, because just like last time, he will skip out on the subpoena and nothing will happen.
Dragontide
11-07-2008, 22:29
Oh, how I hope they get time in the slammer.
Don't think it will happen though :(

The OJ days are over. Bush will end up in jail. That crazy bitch that opened up the 2004 G0P convention (Britney Spears) got locked up (which was a good sign) and so will the rest of them! ;)
Atruria
11-07-2008, 22:37
If he doesn't come back, I won't particularly mind
The Smiling Frogs
11-07-2008, 22:45
The reason he will "get away" with this is that he is not breaking any law. The President is allowed to fire anyone in the Justice Department he wishes. I refer you to Clinton's firing of a majority of them during his tenure. Including some who in the process of investigating some of his, and his friends, dealings.
Cannot think of a name
11-07-2008, 22:57
Initiated by Mississippi Attorney General Mike Moore,

What is it with that name...?

And sweet, I can duck subpoenas by having 'previous plans.' Awesome. "Nope, can't go. Got a hot date."
Dragontide
11-07-2008, 23:05
The reason he will "get away" with this is that he is not breaking any law. The President is allowed to fire anyone in the Justice Department he wishes. I refer you to Clinton's firing of a majority of them during his tenure. Including some who in the process of investigating some of his, and his friends, dealings.

Yes he might get away from that part. But not in his connection to the selective prosecution of Don Siegleman. He pissed on a hornet's nest with that one.
The_pantless_hero
11-07-2008, 23:16
This is eventually going to get Bush, Rove, and other top Republicans thrown in jail. That has been my story for a long time and I'm sticking to it.

Bush and Cheney will get out and I bet Rove doesn't come back, but Alice Miller has a 75% chance of being thrown under the truck and ending up in prison.
Setulan
11-07-2008, 23:34
It won't, because just like last time, he will skip out on the subpoena and nothing will happen.

Who knows, maybe wherever he goes will arrest his ass and ship him back here for trial. Extradition treaties and all that.

The OJ days are over. Bush will end up in jail. That crazy bitch that opened up the 2004 G0P convention (Britney Spears) got locked up (which was a good sign) and so will the rest of them! ;)

please, god! :p
Dragontide
12-07-2008, 00:25
Maybe a related topic. Maybe not. In any event, this is funny as hell!
http://fishbowlamerica.com/

The state of Alabama remains abuzz over just what is going on with these Troy King resignation rumors. The Republican Attorney General, who succeeded William Pryor after his controversial appointment to the federal bench, has been seen by many as a potential gubernatorial candidate when current Governor Bob Riley leaves office.

There are some who believe the initial source of the rumors are those from Riley himself. It has long been rumored that Riley’s reason for running for Congress, and later Governor, was to pave a path for his son Rob Riley, a former SGA president and leader of the Machine at the University of Alabama. Rob Riley was on the infamous conference call with GOP operative Bill Canary and Dana Jill Simpson, when it was inferred that Canary would use Karl Rove and the Justice Department to investigate Riley’s former opponent, Governor Don Siegelman.

WSFA, Montgomery’s WSFA affiliate told some bloggers who inquired about the station running a story on King, said that King was going through a divorce, and that they wouldn’t be running a story of such a private matter.

Common Sense, at the Alabama blog, Left In Alabama, reports:

Sources at the Montgomery Advertiser say that they have been sitting on the story for a couple of weeks. They’re working the story fast and furiously but won’t run until they get official confirmation due to possible exposure to a lawsuit from King. Their sources tell them that Troy King was caught in a compromising situation with a male aide at King’s home by his wife. The Montgomery Advertiser is trying to determine who King would submit his resignation to - is it Gov. Bob Riley? A press release from King’s office stated that he was supposed to be in Mobile yesterday (Wednesday). The Mobile-Register is working the story as well.”



Is he a perv? Involed with Rove? Having sex with Rove? :p
Fleckenstein
12-07-2008, 02:35
The reason he will "get away" with this is that he is not breaking any law. The President is allowed to fire anyone in the Justice Department he wishes. I refer you to Clinton's firing of a majority of them during his tenure. Including some who in the process of investigating some of his, and his friends, dealings.

Right, I forgot, the constitution doesn't apply to the Bush administration. Sorry.
Dododecapod
12-07-2008, 02:40
Right, I forgot, the constitution doesn't apply to the Bush administration. Sorry.

There's no constitutional issue here.
Setulan
12-07-2008, 02:41
Right, I forgot, the constitution doesn't apply to the Bush administration. Sorry.

Tisk tisk! It's off to Gitmo for you, chum. A bit of legal waterboarding and other light tortue will remind you of the divinity and unmatched power of mr. bush.
Fleckenstein
12-07-2008, 02:49
There's no constitutional issue here.

Nope. Misinterpreted 'law of nations' in Article I. My mistake.
Skyland Mt
12-07-2008, 02:51
Bush will surely issue blanket pardons before leaving office if he's worried about getting caught. The Constitution must be amended to repeal or limit the absurd level of power the pardon gives the President to thwart justice. Unfortunately, it would never pass Congress:mad:. I'm starting to think that the only recourse for America is widespread civil disobediance, but their are probably too many apathetic people for it to work:headbang:.
Neo Art
12-07-2008, 02:53
The reason he will "get away" with this is that he is not breaking any law. The President is allowed to fire anyone in the Justice Department he wishes. I refer you to Clinton's firing of a majority of them during his tenure. Including some who in the process of investigating some of his, and his friends, dealings.

That's actually not true, even "at will" employment comes with restrictions.

For instance, Bush couldn't fire a black US attorney because he's black, or a female US attorney because she's female, or, and here's the important part, a democrat US attorney because he's a democrat.
Ashmoria
12-07-2008, 03:00
That's actually not true, even "at will" employment comes with restrictions.

For instance, Bush couldn't fire a black US attorney because he's black, or a female US attorney because she's female, or, and here's the important part, a democrat US attorney because he's a democrat.

and US congressmen cant call up the president and request that he fire the local US attorney from their state because he is proceeding too slowly in making a case against a prominent democrat--which is what happened in new mexico and whose US attorney complained about it.

too bad both congressmen --senator pete dominici and rep heather wilson--are out of office at the end of this year. i like them as congressmen but id like to see some kind of prosecution/sanction on this.
Muravyets
12-07-2008, 05:16
Having a mountain of evidence of crimes (to which we add new nuggets every day) is all well and good, but if only two or three people in the whole government have a will to do anything about that evidence, it will amount to nothing.

And that pisses me off.
Ashmoria
12-07-2008, 05:26
Having a mountain of evidence of crimes (to which we add new nuggets every day) is all well and good, but if only two or three people in the whole government have a will to do anything about that evidence, it will amount to nothing.

And that pisses me off.

me too.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 07:41
I don't HAVE to tell you anything about illegal stuff I did. I'm SPECIAL!

And yet $40mil was spent on the prosecution of Bill Clinton for a blowjob.

The hypocrisy is blinding.
Even worse is it shows how much he really, really loves "his" country ... no, not Nazi Germany (thanx be his daddy) ... wait, i don't remember him ever professing love for this country. Ever.
Well, i suppose it's a threat to everyone else who DID leave the country after seeing how the diseased excrement like himself and Bush & Co. have so sodded this nation and its people, in knowing he might again be close to them at some point.
Straughn
12-07-2008, 07:43
That's actually not trueThey apparently love the attention - why else would they post those things? :)
Straughn
12-07-2008, 07:46
they won't because they are pussies.
Pussies, eh? Why i oughtta ... oh wait ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/washington/10fisa.html?bl&ex=1215921600&en=586df8e7d68e636f&ei=5087%0A
!
*long line of expletives here*