NationStates Jolt Archive


A/C Cycling

Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 06:51
http://www.sce.com/RebatesandSavings/Residential/_Heating+and+Cooling/SummerDiscountPlan/Overview/default.htm

It's certainly a very interesting and profitable idea. Since my parents have just added a 5 ton A/C system, it would probably save them somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 a month. It's also a pretty nifty conservation idea, as well, considering that brownouts have become more of a common occurance in California over the last few years.

Are there any conservation tools at your local Department of Water and Power's disposal? Anything other than "Stop using so much water" or "Turn off the lights when you're not in the room" or "Don't run your air conditioning when your evaporator is clogged solid of dirt and dust from years of running it without a filter?"
Conserative Morality
11-07-2008, 06:52
Nope. I leave the AC running when I leave the house. Hey, I have an excuse! I live in the south!
Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 06:54
Nope. I leave the AC running when I leave the house. Hey, I have an excuse! I live in the south!

What's neat about the program is that, according to a friend of mine that was working on my father's A/C, they've only cycled them off 3 times in the past 5 years.
Soviestan
11-07-2008, 06:55
Nope. I leave the AC running when I leave the house. Hey, I have an excuse! I live in the south!
QFT. The AC never gets turned off. You would have to be halfway retarded to do that in Florida.
Conserative Morality
11-07-2008, 06:58
WTF. The AC never gets turned off. You would have to be halfway retarded to do that in Florida.

Well, not THAT far south...
East Coast Federation
11-07-2008, 07:01
We leave it on all day, every room has its own T-stat.

I leave mine around 68.
Soviestan
11-07-2008, 07:06
Well, not THAT far south...

I was talking about me ;) also I meant QFT, not WFT. It's really late:p
Conserative Morality
11-07-2008, 07:14
I was talking about me ;) also I meant QFT, not WFT. It's really late:p

:p
Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 07:17
We leave it on all day, every room has its own T-stat.

I leave mine around 68.

:eek:

Mine was set at 79 last night. 68 would probably keep the unit at work for a good while...
East Coast Federation
11-07-2008, 07:46
:eek:

Mine was set at 79 last night. 68 would probably keep the unit at work for a good while...

Haha, well theres 4 5 Ton units, and they're all dual stage. And the entire house is broken down into 18 zones, which is enough for all the major rooms and bedrooms. Once the house cools down only 1 or 2 will come on at night.

Somtimes on those fun 100 degree days all 5 come on at once. You should hear it, its LOUD.
Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 07:53
Somtimes on those fun 100 degree days...

Y'know, it's actually been relatively cold this week. It only reached 90 today, but it was uncharacteristically humid (40%) for the LA Basin.

It's funny how much quieter the 5 ton we have now is than the 3 ton we used to have. Sure, that unit had to deal with the fact that the evaporator was completely clogged. But, still... :p

That many compressors going off at once would make quite the white noise generator...
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:16
Y'know, it's actually been relatively cold this week. It only reached 90 today, but it was uncharacteristically humid (40%) for the LA Basin.

It's funny how much quieter the 5 ton we have now is than the 3 ton we used to have. Sure, that unit had to deal with the fact that the evaporator was completely clogged. But, still... :p

That many compressors going off at once would make quite the white noise generator...

Up in NorCal, and today was a bit of a cool-off from the past few--it only hit 89F (31C) according to our clock. Tuesday peaked at 95F (35C) I believe, with 55% humidity--unreal. A/C would have been nice to bring it down to about 85. :(

The only place I've ever been where I think I might not have been able to survive without A/C is my grandparents' place in Palm Desert. We went to a wedding in 115F (46C) heat. -_-
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:17
Haha, well theres 4 5 Ton units, and they're all dual stage. And the entire house is broken down into 18 zones, which is enough for all the major rooms and bedrooms. Once the house cools down only 1 or 2 will come on at night.

Somtimes on those fun 100 degree days all 5 come on at once. You should hear it, its LOUD.

Dude. You have 18 rooms in your house?
Barringtonia
11-07-2008, 08:20
Dude. You have 18 rooms in your house?

It's true, some people live in really small houses. I know someone who lives in a house with just 5 rooms but that's only our gardener so he's not paid that much.

I don't know how they manage.

EDIT: On an irrelevant side note, Christie Brinkley just won herself 18 houses!
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:28
It's true, some people live in really small houses. I know someone who lives in a house with just 5 rooms but that's only our gardener so he's not paid that much.

I don't know how they manage.

Seriously. We've got to have, like, 46 rooms at minimum or we just can't do.

I don't even know what you would put in 18 rooms.
Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 08:28
Up in NorCal, and today was a bit of a cool-off from the past few--it only hit 89F (31C) according to our clock. Tuesday peaked at 95F (35C) I believe, with 55% humidity--unreal. A/C would have been nice to bring it down to about 85. :(

The only place I've ever been where I think I might not have been able to survive without A/C is my grandparents' place in Palm Desert. We went to a wedding in 115F (46C) heat. -_-

Oh, it gets nuts out there. My dad actually used to have a job as a project manager for a sports complex facility there. He had to drive 90 miles each way to get to his office. Ouch.

Anyway, one of the days during the summer when it was slow and whatnot, he decided to take me to see his jobsite. When I first checked the analog thermometer, it read about 100F. In the middle of the day, however it was reading about 130F. It was absolutely ridiculous and, yet, it's almost negative humidity out there (:p) so it wasn't too difficult to deal with.

If you stayed in the shade all day. XD
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:29
EDIT: On an irrelevant side note, Christie Brinkley just won herself 18 houses!

I hope someone tells her about the A/C cycling, or her electric bill is going to be screwed.
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:30
Oh, it gets nuts out there. My dad actually used to have a job as a project manager for a sports complex facility there. He had to drive 90 miles each way to get to his office. Ouch.

Anyway, one of the days during the summer when it was slow and whatnot, he decided to take me to see his jobsite. When I first checked the analog thermometer, it read about 100F. In the middle of the day, however it was reading about 130F. It was absolutely ridiculous and, yet, it's almost negative humidity out there (:p) so it wasn't too difficult to deal with.

If you stayed in the shade all day. XD

Only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Bakersfield (where I spent many a hellish summer): swamp coolers are cheap and effective in a dry heat.

ONLY GOOD THING.
Barringtonia
11-07-2008, 08:36
Seriously. We've got to have, like, 46 rooms at minimum or we just can't do.

I don't even know what you would put in 18 rooms.

Electrical cords. Whenever I move apartments I find I'm carrying out like bags full of electrical cords. I have no idea what they might be for since I don't have that many electrics in my apartment.

I have the theory that odd socks actually turn into electrical cords, it explains so much.
Bullitt Point
11-07-2008, 08:36
Only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Bakersfield (where I spent many a hellish summer): swamp coolers are cheap and effective in a dry heat.

ONLY GOOD THING.

Oi. Swampcoolers. They're loud, they're cheap, they spread mold and shit, and they just make the room more humid.

But they're cheap. And... yeah, only good thing.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
11-07-2008, 08:37
Up in NorCal, and today was a bit of a cool-off from the past few--it only hit 89F (31C) according to our clock. Tuesday peaked at 95F (35C) I believe, with 55% humidity--unreal. A/C would have been nice to bring it down to about 85. :(

The only place I've ever been where I think I might not have been able to survive without A/C is my grandparents' place in Palm Desert. We went to a wedding in 115F (46C) heat. -_-

You get a gold star on your post for giving temperatures in both scales. Thanks. :)

I consider 31ºC quite pleasant. 35ºC is beach weather. 46ºC sounds potentially fatal!
Calarca
11-07-2008, 08:45
10 rooms here, but a SHITLOAD of shed space, including a locking gunroom. you could fit five or six of the houses into the shed floorspace here :D

Mind you, tractors and a couple thousand bales of hay plus a milking system takes a bit of storage space, so you can see why :D
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:46
You get a gold star on your post for giving temperatures in both scales. Thanks. :)

I consider 31ºC quite pleasant. 35ºC is beach weather. 46ºC sounds potentially fatal!

*preens*

I'm pretty sure it is potentially fatal, which makes it even stranger that all the old people move there. They move to a place where the temperature ranges from about 31C-46C+ and spend all their time inside with the A/C on. It just boggles the mind.
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 08:48
10 rooms here, but a SHITLOAD of shed space, including a locking gunroom. you could fit five or six of the houses into the shed floorspace here :D

Mind you, tractors and a couple thousand bales of hay plus a milking system takes a bit of storage space, so you can see why :D

Well, that's different, then. :P If I had 18 rooms in a normal house I'd have... well... about 8 rooms with absolutely no furniture.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
11-07-2008, 09:06
I'm pretty sure it is potentially fatal, which makes it even stranger that all the old people move there. They move to a place where the temperature ranges from about 31C-46C+ and spend all their time inside with the A/C on. It just boggles the mind.

Career opportunity there for an A/C engineer! Guarantee to respond within the hour, drop in by helicopter, turn the thermostat back down until the unit comes on, and charge 'em five thousand bucks. ;)
Cannot think of a name
11-07-2008, 09:37
It's rare for SF Bay Area houses to have an AC, it just doesn't get hot enough. At least in the places I live. I don't turn them on when I have them, nor do I use the heater. I live in a great climate where I can either get a blanket or open a window according to what's going on at the time.

This is NOT to sound high and mighty, just lucky. When I lived in Sacramento I would have been willing to make love to my air conditioner.
Cannot think of a name
11-07-2008, 09:40
Only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Bakersfield (where I spent many a hellish summer): swamp coolers are cheap and effective in a dry heat.

ONLY GOOD THING.

Also, it's not Fresno.
Cookiton
11-07-2008, 10:30
Yeah, I try to conserve as much as I can, like water. For some reason , we have to pay for a bill of water...which I find strange.
Haoaera
11-07-2008, 10:50
No need for A/C in Britain. We have to burn our furniture just to keep warm in summer, it seems.

I want it to be 2006 again. :(
Skip rat
11-07-2008, 10:54
No need for A/C in Britain. We have to burn our furniture just to keep warm in summer, it seems.

I want it to be 2006 again. :(

Don't burn your furniture - you'll need all the wood you have to build an ark if this rain keeps up:)
Haoaera
11-07-2008, 11:22
Don't burn your furniture - you'll need all the wood you have to build an ark if this rain keeps up:)

Good point!

/me steals some animals from Chester Zoo and gets to work.
East Coast Federation
11-07-2008, 20:19
Dude. You have 18 rooms in your house?

Not exactly.

Its a carrier infinity ( guess how fun it was to wire for those bad boys ).

Yeah we could have afforded to have someone do it, but we're more of a do it yourself kinda family, the house is a good 70 years old, so ducting had to go in. :)

The house has 11 Bedrooms, and a seperate garage that can hold 12 cars. Total rooms in the house is about 25 if you count the famliy rooms dining rooms and kitchen.

Whenever I get out of school and get myself a good job, my house will be more like 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms.

My parents can get excessive.

I live near Pittsburgh PA.

You would not believe how hot it gets for how far north it is.
Ryadn
11-07-2008, 20:24
Not exactly.

Its a carrier infinity ( guess how fun it was to wire for those bad boys ).

Yeah we could have afforded to have someone do it, but we're more of a do it yourself kinda family, the house is a good 70 years old, so ducting had to go in. :)

The house has 11 Bedrooms, and a seperate garage that can hold 12 cars. Total rooms in the house is about 25 if you count the famliy rooms dining rooms and kitchen.

Whenever I get out of school and get myself a good job, my house will be more like 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms.

My parents can get excessive.

I live near Pittsburgh PA.

You would not believe how hot it gets for how far north it is.

*drops jaw*

I don't believe I have ever seen a house with 11 bedrooms. Wait--maybe the Winchester Mystery House. Maybe.

See, I don't know what Pittsburgh's like. Here, you can get 4 beds 3 baths, maybe 2,000 square feet, for about $1 -$1.5M. A house with 11 bedrooms?? I dunno, that's probably $3-$4M.
East Coast Federation
11-07-2008, 20:45
*drops jaw*

I don't believe I have ever seen a house with 11 bedrooms. Wait--maybe the Winchester Mystery House. Maybe.

See, I don't know what Pittsburgh's like. Here, you can get 4 beds 3 baths, maybe 2,000 square feet, for about $1 -$1.5M. A house with 11 bedrooms?? I dunno, that's probably $3-$4M.

Well, I wont discuss what my parents do for a living, but they are self employeed. The house is not in the city, its a good 20 miles north of it in a place called mars. The house with 30 acres was about 1 and a half million. Housing here is CHEAP.

Once I'm out of college I'll go for 1 acre and a 2,000 ft house and I'll be happy.
Khadgar
11-07-2008, 20:47
Wouldn't it be more efficient to have a subterranean water tank and a network of blowers running over the cooled water in tubing to cool the house air?

Pretty sure you can use geothermal properties like that. Sure it's an initial investment, but long term I think you'd save. Or you could just build your house underground.
Khadgar
11-07-2008, 21:04
Well, I wont discuss what my parents do for a living, but they are self employeed. The house is not in the city, its a good 20 miles north of it in a place called mars. The house with 30 acres was about 1 and a half million. Housing here is CHEAP.

Once I'm out of college I'll go for 1 acre and a 2,000 ft house and I'll be happy.

Mmm. Hello rich boy (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+40%C2%B041%2759.31%22N++80%C2%B0+1%2742.85%22W&ie=UTF8&ll=40.700309,-80.028577&spn=0.007874,0.013304&z=16&iwloc=addr). That's the biggest house I can find in the area.
Katganistan
11-07-2008, 21:08
I unplug it when I am not home.
It only takes about 20 minutes to cool the room down when I come in.
I have better things to spend money on than making sure the dust motes are comfortable.
Sumamba Buwhan
11-07-2008, 21:09
Yep - we got something similar here in Vegas and had it installed.

http://www.coolshareprogram.com/


Just started so I haven't seen the rewards yet.
Khadgar
11-07-2008, 21:11
Your not looking in the right place.


So my parents do well? Why is that bad?

Nah, mostly wanted to creep you out. Heh
East Coast Federation
11-07-2008, 21:13
Mmm. Hello rich boy (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+40%C2%B041%2759.31%22N++80%C2%B0+1%2742.85%22W&ie=UTF8&ll=40.700309,-80.028577&spn=0.007874,0.013304&z=16&iwloc=addr). That's the biggest house I can find in the area.

Me rich? My parents are rich. Not me. Also, not all of that land is connected, soem of it is up near Evans City.

I only do about 40k a year right now.