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Those same parents are the ones that stick a lifejacket on their kid and then get mad at me for not letting their 3-year-old go off the diving board when the parent is laying down reading a magazine at the opposite corner of a 50x25 m pool. I hate it when people give me shyte for being nice.

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Those same parents are the ones that stick a lifejacket on their kid and then get mad at me for not letting their 3-year-old go off the diving board when the parent is laying down reading a magazine at the opposite corner of a 50x25 m pool. I hate it when people give me shyte for being nice.

That sucks.

I had to stop halfway through watching that, it was just too irritating. I can list to people whine about stuff they don't like anywhere, I don't need to go on the internet and search it out. -_-

That sucks.

I always want to remind them that my job is to save their lives.

It's ok, though. I get vindicated whenever a kid falls right after I yell "WALK!" at him.




Also: what exactly possesses a person to jump off the diving board when they know they can't swim?

A reckless disregard for safety in the pursuit of entertainment; it's a common human virtue.

There was a thread about the door thing a few months back.

I always want to remind them that my job is to save their lives.I usually did. "ma'am, my job is to enforce the rules for the protection of your child. Their actions were potentially dangerous. If you want to complain, you can go over to the lifeguard office and ask for Steve Kelly's phone number (our dick of a boss...I never gave out the nice bosses number). In the mean time, I cannot be talking while I am on duty. Have a nice day."


Luckily, our pools did not permit flotation devices of any kind. Floaties and water wings only hold up the arm, and lifejackets only hold up the abdomen. With both, it can actually hold the kids head in the water when going under.
It's ok, though. I get vindicated whenever a kid falls right after I yell "WALK!" at him.

I got really good at that.

Yeah, I hate when that happens. Most of them are wasps...right?

couldn't you add something to the water to change its consistency and thus make the children sink even with the arm bands?

also nagging a bunch of kids is what your paid for :p

So, you and the squeaky squirrel hate rude people who are irresponsible? Yes, we all do.

The squirrel is a bit off base though, people constantly berate mothers and their children. You know the rude people you don't like.

As far as life jackets, my children wear them when we are at the lake, on a boat, etc. I don't know why a lifeguard would hate them, you don't like people to drown right?

I don't like people who don't follow the pool rules though, so I guess I can get behind that emotion. You know those idiots that dive into 6 feet of water.......yeah, I don't like that.

I hate lifejackets, because people believe they are magically protective...

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As far as life jackets, my children wear them when we are at the lake, on a boat, etc. I don't know why a lifeguard would hate them, you don't like people to drown right?

The jacket itself wasn't the issue. It was that the parent assumed that a life jacket on her three-year-old somehow absolved her from paying attention to it.

The jacket itself wasn't the issue. It was that the parent assumed that a life jacket on her three-year-old somehow absolved her from paying attention to it.

So, why didn't the OP say they hated rude people, instead of going into a rant about life jackets and feminists.

"Rude people" and "stupid people" pretty much covers it.

So, why didn't the OP say they hated rude people, instead of going into a rant about life jackets and feminists.

"Rude people" and "stupid people" pretty much covers it.

Because the lifejacket is the cause of the stupid behavior. It's simple transferral, really. You've never gotten mad at the item used by the problem causer as well as the problem causer?

I'm not defending, but pointing out that everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, especially when frustrated.

Because the lifejacket is the cause of the stupid behavior. It's simple transferral, really. You've never gotten mad at the item used by the problem causer as well as the problem causer?

I'm not defending, but pointing out that everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, especially when frustrated.

Not particularly.

Singling out parents, feminists, blacks, life jacket wearers, gays, etc. because someone is rude to you at some point is illogical at best.

Not particularly.

Singling out parents, feminists, blacks, life jacket wearers, gays, etc. because someone is rude to you at some point is illogical at best.

But understandable. Otherwise there'd be no gun-control lobby, would there?

But understandable. Otherwise there'd be no gun-control lobby, would there?

:p

So, why didn't the OP say they hated rude people, instead of going into a rant about life jackets and feminists.

"Rude people" and "stupid people" pretty much covers it.

Parents leaving their kids around in strollers and not paying attention to them = Parents sticking their kids in a lifejacket and not paying attention to them, since apparently both magically protect your child from any harm.

Parents that get pissed off at me for keeping their kids from getting hurt = feminists who get pissed off at people for being nice and holding open a door, because either way it has nothing to do with my/nice door-holder person's opinion of their parenting or gender, it's just the nice thing to do.

Mind, I didn't say parents... = feminists. I said ...= feminists [etc.]. So please don't accuse me of bashing feminists. There's nothing wrong with feminists, just rude, over-zealous feminists.

So, you and the squeaky squirrel hate rude people who are irresponsible? Yes, we all do.

The squirrel is a bit off base though, people constantly berate mothers and their children. You know the rude people you don't like.

As far as life jackets, my children wear them when we are at the lake, on a boat, etc. I don't know why a lifeguard would hate them, you don't like people to drown right?

I don't like people who don't follow the pool rules though, so I guess I can get behind that emotion. You know those idiots that dive into 6 feet of water.......yeah, I don't like that.

Actually, for a small child in particular, they can be an issue within a pool...especially on the diving boards where the jacket can pull off, and the water is 12' or deeper.

They also give false confidence to the kid, so when they don't have it on, but still can't swim, they go much deeper than they should.

And they hold up the center of the body and not the head, which is then a higher risk, and generally less noticable than someone who is drowing without a jacket.

There's nothing wrong with feminists, just rude, over-zealous feminists.

We call them FemNazis around here. the violent malicious type that want to castrate all men who aren't in collars and leashes... They're madwomen!

Foamy! rules, and he always make a good point. Although I never had a woman complain when I open the door for her...

Where are these women who complain?

Foamy! rules, and he always make a good point. Although I never had a woman complain when I open the door for her...

Where are these women who complain?
...

Please, come to my town. I beg of you. You'll see them in droves, including my mothers weekly "Church womens meeting". Well, they don't talk about religion, that's for sure! Give them SS uniforms, and you really could call them FemiNazis.

We call them FemNazis around here. the violent malicious type that want to castrate all men who aren't in collars and leashes... They're madwomen!

I call them Fembitches, which is the second of three tiers of feminists: feminists, who are rational and want equality for women, equal wages, and so on; fembitches, who complain about holding doors open for them and say that Firefly/Serenity was shovenistic; and Feminazis, who are lesbians, not because they are attracted to women, but because they just hate men that much.

I call them Fembitches, which is the second of three tiers of feminists: feminists, who are rational and want equality for women, equal wages, and so on; fembitches, who complain about holding doors open for them and say that Firefly/Serenity was shovenistic; and Feminazis, who are lesbians, not because they are attracted to women, but because they just hate men that much.

I call that last category members of the gynocratic terrorist group known as Lezbollah.

Those same parents are the ones that stick a lifejacket on their kid and then get mad at me for not letting their 3-year-old go off the diving board when the parent is laying down reading a magazine at the opposite corner of a 50x25 m pool. I hate it when people give me shyte for being nice.
I hate tourists and little kids.
One of the pools I work at is a fake beach, so it is generally okay because it drops off shallowly. There is a ledge at the back though where it goes from 1m deep to 2 m deep. That's where most of our rescues are. At that pool we had about 90 rescues over December/January. Usually we have 3 times that amount. Fortunately it was a cold miserable summer.

Problem is parents have the idea that lifeguards are a babysitting service. I have had parents yelling at me when their little brat goes under. I just say in a non-emotional manner: "So, why weren't you in the water with your 3 year old child that can't swim?"

I call that last category members of the gynocratic terrorist group known as Lezbollah.

I just call them Crazies. The second one I call FemiNazis.

Actually, for a small child in particular, they can be an issue within a pool...especially on the diving boards where the jacket can pull off, and the water is 12' or deeper.

They also give false confidence to the kid, so when they don't have it on, but still can't swim, they go much deeper than they should.

And they hold up the center of the body and not the head, which is then a higher risk, and generally less noticable than someone who is drowing without a jacket.

Well, yeah, we had to teach my kids how to float in a life jacket. We ended up "dropping" them in the pool and teaching them how to get into a back float position and how to float that way without sinking or getting turned upside down.

I don't like parents who don't watch their children. I especially don't like parents who expect me to watch their children.

Well, yeah, we had to teach my kids how to float in a life jacket. We ended up "dropping" them in the pool and teaching them how to get into a back float position and how to float that way without sinking or getting turned upside down.

I don't like parents who don't watch their children. I especially don't like parents who expect me to watch their children.
Ugh...tell me about it. I've had three different jobs as lifeguard.

At the pools, Parents expect me to individually babysit their kids. A few have even claimed that, since it was a town pool, their taxes were what paid me. They wern't entirely incorrect (the pools were self sustaining...they paid me by showing up to the pools, not by being a resident). And yet, that isn't my job description. If your kid can't swim, you should be in the pool with them, or atleast standing near them on the edge. Not sitting in a chair reading.

At the lake, parents were much less likely to do so, but it was a somewhat more secluded area, so people who were willing to go were more likely to actually care about their kids.

Then there was the summer camp gig, where we did double duty as guards and other support staff. There was a rule at the camp that said all counselors had to go in the water during their swim time unless the guard staff had closed the waterfronts. Well, one of the higher-up counselors decided to extend that rule under the theory that we are support staff and should be interacting with the kids as much as the counselors. The problem with that theory is that I can't guard from in the water, as I can't see.

Then there was a fun woman. The pool I worked at was originally a lake that was converted to a pool. This led to frequent loss of water through cracks in the floor, meaning that water didn't touch the filters. Additionally, the filters rarely worked. Rather than fixing the problem, they made the guards clean the pool every morning, and started to bubble in the chemicals. What we ended up with were literally 8 areas where liquid chlorine and other chemicals were compressed with air and would literally bubble into the pools. People see the bubbles, and decide to play in them. We yelled at one woman and her kids because she was playing in them. When she didn't stop, we explained that it's chemicals and could be dangerous to them. Then I kicked them out of the pool for 15 minutes. As she was getting out, she said "See kids? This is why you have to bug daddy to get us a pool. Then we don't have to listen to all these stupid rules."

The first and third paragraphs are essentiall the same thing. People just don't understand what the job entails and what it doesn't.
The last is people not understanding that yes, we have rules, and yes, we have reasoning behind them. Which really ties into the others.



No, I have no idea how this really fits in. I ramble.