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Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

Vegans.

I can't imagine having any preference between those groups - unless, I suppose, it was somehow really relevant to the job (e.g. if I was trying to hire a rabbi, the Jew would have a bit of a leg up). Beyond that, though, why would I care?

I guess I would be least likely to hire the black one...I don't know why maybe even the Jew actually depending on how hardcore s/he is (the Muslims would be interesting like getting a pet snake)

though I would probably be more inclined to not employ someone out of shape

how would i ever know that someone is a muslim, a jew, a catholic or an atheist?

or gay?

its illegal to ask those questions in a job interview

The one who was least qualified for the job. Failing that, the one that had the worst interview. Failing that, roll a d6.

Of those choices? The least overall qualified.

But to be safe, I'd keep the symbol of the anti-christ in my office and if a person got offended, I'd know not to hire them. I'd also make sure to eat a BLT during the interview. That ought to cover my bases. If neither bothered the candidate then I'd know they're at least able to function as an employee under an atheist.

I would answer. But with only ethnicity as a choice, I'm afraid I'll be labeled a racist. Add some descriptions of these people?

I would answer. But with only ethnicity as a choice, I'm afraid I'll be labeled a racist. Add some descriptions of these people?

It's not only ethnicity.

I can't answer since there's no "all equally" option.

its illegal to ask those questions in a job interview

you would look at their NS posting account :)

I can't imagine having any preference between those groups - unless, I suppose, it was somehow really relevant to the job (e.g. if I was trying to hire a rabbi, the Jew would have a bit of a leg up). Beyond that, though, why would I care?

Pretty much.

A mexican or a muslim...Just for own personal reason

how would i ever know that someone is a muslim, a jew, a catholic or an atheist?

or gay?

its illegal to ask those questions in a job interview

Well, you could probably make a pretty reasonable guess as to the religions of hypothetical applicants Ali Muhammad, Isaac Cohen, and Mary Margaret O'Connor. :p

Probably a black person, because there aren't any in York. Would also have trouble hiring Jews for the very same reason.

Obviously, all things being equal, the people I wouldn't employ were the least well qualified, because, if nothing else, getting decent grades requires you know how to jump through hoops with a small amount of initiative, which is what I'd be employing them for anyway.

Only 94% would employ a Catholic - it just goes to show the level of Christian bashing by atheists...










....oh only 49% would employ an atheist.

The one who was least qualified for the job. Failing that, the one that had the worst interview. Failing that, roll a d6.

Any die modifiers?

Obviously, all things being equal, the people I wouldn't employ were the least well qualified, because, if nothing else, getting decent grades requires you know how to jump through hoops with a small amount of initiative, which is what I'd be employing them for anyway.

you work in a circus?

also experience is the clincher for me over grades so I guess I would be guilty of ageism

you would look at their NS posting account :)

only if they are foolish enough to put it on their cv!

Any die modifiers?

Chance rolls do not have modifiers.

A mexican or a muslim...Just for own personal reason

Only mexicans or any kind of "hispanics"?

Vegans.
Awww, someone's got an agenda.

How cute.

You're kidding, right?

The least qualified. Also, I would not employ a militant atheist, due to inevitable conflicts.

Where's the "A NS player" variant?

Any die modifiers?

That sounds confusing, so no.

Chance rolls do not have modifiers.



Only mexicans or any kind of "hispanics"?

I would just assume they are illegal :D

I would just assume they are illegal :D

I like you.

you work in a circus?
Sad but true :(

I ain't touching this one, not even with a 40" pole.:eek:
*edges away and vanishes behind a corner*

Any die modifiers?

A high Charisma gives bonuses to reaction checks.

if they were equally qualified I would hire any of them, unless it was a job that's clearly unfitting, i.e. an atheist for a priest (i would love to see a atheist get a priest education)

I ain't touching this one, not even with a 40" pole.:eek:
*edges away and vanishes behind a corner*

You felt the tension rising in the air, right?

Okay. Being completely honest, I would not hire a black person. That being said, I live in Peoria, a suburb of Phoenix, Arizona. The only black people here are either a) successful people already with a job, or b) the children of those people. Those that fall under B are the people I wouldn't hire, simply because they annoy me to no end. They're the kind of rich black kids that pretend they're "from the streets" and carry around brass knuckles and purposefully have bad grammar.

If I ran a business, well first the world would implode because thats so unlikely to happen. But if this did somehow come about and the world remained unimploded, my criteria for employing ma' underlings would be a basic level of knowledge required for the job (training can take care of most of it) and then passing an intensive barrage of personality tests to eliminate the homophobic/transphobic, racist, and generally those who would read the Daily Mail or Express and go "I agree". Mainly because I wouldn't want to go to jail for killing an employee who pissed me off :) Or, to put it in a way that doesn't make me sound like a nutter with anger management issues, its very important for me that my team has a similar way of thinking and can relate to each other well in a relaxed and tolerant environment.

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

I wouldn't have problems with any of them... although with the religious guys it would depend on how much preaching I have to listen to.

Evangelical Christians are the ones I would be worried about having around.

They're all equally qualified and I can only pick one?

Only one solution: Battle Royale! :D

When I was in a similar position, I just picked the one I liked best as a person.

depends on the job.


for instance. Asian females have a hiring preference in order to be my secretary.

I'd hire the person who has the best manners and etiquette, who can be polite without being overly stunted in their speech, who is cultured, and whom I feel I can trust and will be able to learn well and will put the effort in to do so. The rest is unimportant.

You felt the tension rising in the air, right?

Indeed I did. The tension just skyrocketed. This is one of those topics that can turn volatile in a jiffy. Hence, the Spaniard leaves.;)

Indeed I did. The tension just skyrocketed. This is one of those topics that can turn volatile in a jiffy. Hence, the Spaniard leaves.;)

Pfft, coward. You never would have got a place on the Spanish Inquisition.

Pfft, coward. You never would have got a place on the Spanish Inquisition.

Pffft, neither would you, Iffy <_<. Besides you don´t have to be daring to join the Inquisition. You have to be sneaky and crafty.:D

You don't have my choice of who NOT to hire, the UGLY one.

I'd hire a beautiful woman first... after that it's a case of looking for the one that fits my personality and interests best. if the academic and work experience is all equal, then thats when the "hobbies and extra curricular activities" comes in. find ex-military, thats a boost, member of NRA or equivalent, good, petrolheads with flash modified cars, thats good too.

Pfft, coward. You never would have got a place on the Spanish Inquisition.

NO EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Our chief weapon is surprise! and terror! Terror and surprise, surprise and terror... Our TWO chief weapons are surprise and terror!... And ruthless efficiency. Our THREE chief weapons are...
:D

Asians like to shoot customers when they're getting their money out.

Depends on what it is I am hiring that person for. A waitress or Waiter they need to be well groomed and at least better than average looks. For a Manager it needs to be someone with street smarts and good personal communication.

If it were an insurance agent it would have to be someone that displayed a professional image. Physical looks are not as important as looking the part of a professional.

If it were an office worker it would depend also. If it were a secretary that dealt with the public it would be a young good looking gal and behind the scenes it wouldn't matter so much.

Sorry if it sounds offensive however the "wrong" person can cost a company revenue.

Asians like to shoot customers when they're getting their money out.

Only in Los Angeles.

Are you one of those under-cover Canadian cops that trolls websights for "hate speech" to prosecute? If so, please get a life, stop entrapping people, and stop wasting my God damn tax dollars!:)

Vegans.

Ooh. Edgy.

They're all equally qualified and I can only pick one?

Only one solution: Battle Royale! :D

Pies at ten paces on a field of mud?

NO EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Our chief weapon is surprise! and terror! Terror and surprise, surprise and terror... Our TWO chief weapons are surprise and terror!... And ruthless efficiency. Our THREE chief weapons are...
:D

Car-di-nal FANG?! POKE him with the soft cushions!


CONFESS!!!

Car-di-nal FANG?! POKE him with the soft cushions!


CONFESS!!!
"Cardinal Fang! Fetch... the Comfy Chair!"

"The Comfy Chair?"

"Now, you will sit in this chair until lunchtime, with nothing but a cup of coffee at 11!"

CAPITALIST: I'd hire whoever would do the job for the least amount of money.

NAZI: The Catholic. Gas the rest.

WHITE SUPREMACIST: [no answer -- none are smart enough to rise to the level of employment authoritah.]

TED KACZYNSKI: Which one would fly highest?

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: [looks toward the HR statistician] What are we low on?

SOCIETY FOR THE PRESERVATION OF GOOFY HATS: The Catholic. Gas the rest.

Communists

CAPITALIST: I'd hire whoever would do the job for the least amount of money.

NAZI: The Catholic. Gas the rest.


Wasn't Hitler Lutheran? you think a Nazi would gas hitler for being the wrong religion?

Hitler was Catholic.

Cue Christian apollogists arguing he was an atheist. Revisionist history in 3, 2, 1...

Hitler was Catholic.

Cue Christian apollogists arguing he was an atheist. Revisionist history in 3, 2, 1...
Hitler was a Catholic.

However, he is in no way a model Catholic. If anyone considered that he was... They'd be insane. Plain and simple.

Wasn't Hitler Lutheran? you think a Nazi would gas hitler for being the wrong religion?
No.
Hitler was Catholic.

Cue Christian apollogists arguing he was an atheist. Revisionist history in 3, 2, 1...
No. And he wasn't an atheist, either. The God Hitler believed in was someone you'd expect to find in a Wagner opera: strong, German, uber-male, probably a baritone. None of the weaknesses of the Christian God, while still being able to rest securely in the comfy mysticism and irrationalism of a religion.

I'll take the cop out answer and say least qualified. However, if all were equally qualified, I probably would not hire the atheist. I have nothing against atheists, and don't think his beliefs would affect his job performance at all. (Unless the job were parish priest, or something similar.) However, while a black, Muslim, Asian, woman, or even Jew, could make a convincing if untrue case that I didn't hire them because of their race/beliefs/sex, an atheist would have a much harder time. Atheists tend to look like me, so racism or xenophobia couldn't be charged, and since "woman" is an option, I will assume the atheist is male, protecting me from charges of sexism. It's the safest option.

No.

No. And he wasn't an atheist, either. The God Hitler believed in was someone you'd expect to find in a Wagner opera: strong, German, uber-male, probably a baritone. None of the weaknesses of the Christian God, while still being able to rest securely in the comfy mysticism and irrationalism of a religion.

I'll take the cop out answer and say least qualified. However, if all were equally qualified, I probably would not hire the atheist. I have nothing against atheists, and don't think his beliefs would affect his job performance at all. (Unless the job were parish priest, or something similar.) However, while a black, Muslim, Asian, woman, or even Jew, could make a convincing if untrue case that I didn't hire them because of their race/beliefs/sex, an atheist would have a much harder time. Atheists tend to look like me, so racism or xenophobia couldn't be charged, and since "woman" is an option, I will assume the atheist is male, protecting me from charges of sexism. It's the safest option.
My bad. I found this:
Hitler was raised by Roman Catholic parents, but after he left home, he never attended Mass or received the sacraments,[88] Hitler often praised Christian heritage, German Christian culture, and professed a belief in Jesus Christ.[89] In his speeches and publications Hitler even spoke of Christianity as a central motivation for his antisemitism, stating that "As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice".[90][91] His private statements, as reported by his intimates, are more mixed, showing Hitler as a religious man but critical of traditional Christianity.[92] However, in contrast to early Nazi ideologues, Hitler did not adhere to esoteric ideas, occultism, or Ariosophy,[92] and ridiculed such beliefs in Mein Kampf.[93] Rather, Hitler advocated a "Positive Christianity",[94] a belief system purged from what he objected to in traditional Christianity, and which reinvented Jesus as a fighter against the Jews.

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

That poll was for POTUS, not employment.

That poll was for POTUS, not employment.

Don't bring "logic" or "reality" or your filthy stinking "facts" into this. They have no place here.

Don't bring "logic" or "reality" or your filthy stinking "facts" into this. They have no place here.

And you, although being right in what you´re posting, lose the argument by answering to CthulhuFhtagn´s post in this way.

And you, although being right in what you´re posting, lose the argument by answering to CthulhuFhtagn´s post in this way.

*sigh* I hate the internets sometimes. Sarcasm is just much too hard to pick up.

so basically this thread is asking if you hate people for no good reason, none of thoose things are a reason not to employ people, the fact a thread like this exists is acutally quite disturbing, are people really that fucked up?

Wasn't Hitler Lutheran? you think a Nazi would gas hitler for being the wrong religion?

Who knows. I mistakenly thought that "Catholic" was a poll option, having remembered that "Jew", "Muslim" and "Atheist" were as well. Also, someone else posted a stat for a "Catholic" response as well. "Lutheran" was never an option, anyway.

And finally, it was all done for laughs -- sometimes I think NSG's funny bone is leaching calcium.

so basically this thread is asking if you hate people for no good reason, none of thoose things are a reason not to employ people, the fact a thread like this exists is acutally quite disturbing, are people really that fucked up?

To answer your questions in order:


No, not necessarily.
Yes, they are.

so basically this thread is asking if you hate people for no good reason, none of thoose things are a reason not to employ people, the fact a thread like this exists is acutally quite disturbing, are people really that fucked up?

In that case, let me be the first to bid you welcome to NS General Forum. Fucked up doesn´t even begin to explain what you´ll encounter here. Thread with caution.

To answer your questions in order:


No, not necessarily.
Yes, they are.


i really dont get why people think its ok to discrimnate when it comes to who you employ, the only factor should be how good they are at the job

i really dont get why people think its ok to discrimnate when it comes to who you employ, the only factor should be how good they are at the job

If everyone thought like you do, discrimination wouldn´t be a problem. Alas, it is and yes, people are stupid for doing it.

A woman, but even then it's only on the assumption that I'm running a male modeling agency.

so basically this thread is asking if you hate people for no good reason, none of thoose things are a reason not to employ people, the fact a thread like this exists is acutally quite disturbing, are people really that fucked up?
Indeed, it is disturbing, and yes, some people really are that fucked up.

To feed the beast: If I were hiring an employee, the only non-work-related thing that would cause me to disqualify a candidate, regardless of his/her qualifications, would be his or her propensity to start conversations like this one. In other words, if this or anything even remotely like it in substance or style comes up during the interview, that person will not be getting the job.

If everyone thought like you do, discrimination wouldn´t be a problem. Alas, it is and yes, people are stupid for doing it.

Weren't you leaving?

I refrained myself to do anything about the racist comment about hispanics because you were leaving :(

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

If they're all equally qualified, I'd say the one who presents themselves most professionally and speaks proper grammatical *insert language they need to work in* best.

I'll never hire a godless atheist!

Actually, I don't give a rat's ass as long as someone can do the job they're hired to do. If qualifications and experience were equal across the board, I'd try to find some other factor to determine who I could work with best. Maybe challenge each applicant to a chess game and see how they handle losing. OK, let's be realistic. I'd see how they handle embarrassingly easy victory in game after game.

Really not a fair choice. You should have included someone really unacceptable like a PETA member or a militant vegetarian.

I went with Muslim, but, really, given that they would be equally qualified, I would probably have tossed a coin or had them draw straws.

I would not hier someone if their behavior, including religious services, prevented them from doing their job. For example, Islam's rule about praying 5 times a day might be a problem, depending on the job. Though I'm by no means picking on Islam. I don't like religious fundimentallists in genneral, and would not enjoy having to hier one.

Why couldn't you include a "stupid dumbasses" option?

It would be nice to know what kind of job we're talking here. I certainly would tend to hire more men for a construction-type job, and more women for an office-type job. But that's because that's how the splits for each different job are.

It would be nice to know what kind of job we're talking here. I certainly would tend to hire more men for a construction-type job, and more women for an office-type job. But that's because that's how the splits for each different job are.

thats still a grey area, whos to say a women isnt able to work in construction or a man to work in an office, i dont think it should ever be acceptable for an employer to discriminate on who he hires.

thats still a grey area, whos to say a women isnt able to work in construction or a man to work in an office, i dont think it should ever be acceptable for an employer to discriminate on who he hires.

It's not discrimination, it's the number of people that apply for the job.

I've seen women in the field, as I have been an employee of a construction company, but the number is generally extremely small. It is not discrimination but a lack of female applicants that wish to work in the field.

Also, I'm guessing that the Gallup poll is based largely in the Kansas/Texas area.

>.<

I'm least likely to hire someone who will cause trouble for other employees, namely anyone who discriminates against others based on race, nationality, religion, sexual orientation or diet. That is, if I have any way of knowing.

It's not discrimination, it's the number of people that apply for the job.

I've seen women in the field, as I have been an employee of a construction company, but the number is generally extremely small. It is not discrimination but a lack of female applicants that wish to work in the field.

ok, you didnt make that clear in your original post, and it may be that there is a percieved discrimination that leads to the lack of female applicants.

They're the kind of rich black kids that pretend they're "from the streets" and carry around brass knuckles and purposefully have bad grammar.I think you mean "purposely." ;)

I'm least likely to hire someone who will cause trouble for other employees, namely anyone who discriminates against others based on race, nationality, religion, sexual orientation or diet. That is, if I have any way of knowing.

Wait... wouldn't a question asking if you discriminate be discriminatory?

o.O

Equally qualified?

Chances are, any job for which I'd be hiring has an over-representation of Asians. Hence, in the furtherance of the goal of diversity, I'd prefer to hire a qualified candidate from some other group.

So I voted "Asian," but obviously on this rule the real answer is "whichever is most well represented in my company/industry already."

A woman, for various reasons.

Hitler was a Catholic.

However, he is in no way a model Catholic. If anyone considered that he was... They'd be insane. Plain and simple.

Hmm... well he wasn't a model Aryan either, given he wanted to breed tall blonde healthy and muscular germans with blue eyes to rule the world, surely after looking in the mirror and seeing a dark haired wimp with a funny moustache he would thought about having a vasectomy.

A woman, for various reasons.

Given the big "Obama '08" in your sig, probably that means you are subconsiously pissed off with Hillary and want to punish all women for what hillary did in opposing Obama in the nomination :P

/freud mode off

Can't decide between muslim and atheist, to be honest. I'm not sure if I'd know until I had already hired someone what their religious beliefs were, though. It's not the kind of thing that I'd put on a job application, as unless you're working in a place of religious worship, it's a bit irrelevant.

Given the big "Obama '08" in your sig, probably that means you are subconsiously pissed off with Hillary and want to punish all women for what hillary did in opposing Obama in the nomination :P

/freud mode off

No, I'm afraid not. Calarca, meet Soviestan. He's always hated women and been disgusted with their woman-ness this much. He thinks vaginas are venus flytraps.

No, I'm afraid not. Calarca, meet Soviestan. He's always hated women and been disgusted with their woman-ness this much. He thinks vaginas are venus flytraps.

He's like the men's answer to political lesbianism! :eek:

He's like the men's answer to political lesbianism! :eek:

Pretty much. He seriously thinks that vaginas are disgusting and unhygenic, and also that men are being oppressed by women.

a white supremist.

a fanatical 'christian'

a fanatical capitolist

a fanatical anything else.

in approximately that order.

everyone on the op's list i'd hire in flash before any of those on mine.
(unless of course, as an individual they WERE also one of THESE!)

=^^=
.../\...

I would be least likely to hire a Jew, because statistically speaking, Jews are the smallest minority and thus the least likely to be encountered at a job interview (or anywhere).

Weren't you leaving?

I refrained myself to do anything about the racist comment about hispanics because you were leaving :(

Oh no, I wasn't leaving darling. So, comment away.:)

meh, don't care about who I'm employing.

if they were equally qualified I would hire any of them, unless it was a job that's clearly unfitting, i.e. an atheist for a priest (i would love to see a atheist get a priest education)

Youll be surprised how successful some Atheist Cardinals and Bishops were in the middle ages.

to put it gently, and i know of no really gentle way of putting this, the abscence from the op's list of anything that is on mine, nor even a none of the above, i find extremely self idighting of the intentions they imply about this thread.

conspicuous by their abscence, in addition to a none of the above, extremely damming by the conspicuousness of their abscence, are again white supremist, fanatical christian, fanatical capitolist and finatical anything elseist.

when is a poll no fun at all? when ALL of the options are equally wrong, and none of them even a little less so then any of the others!

=^^=
.../\...

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

The obnoxious one... Or the smelly one.

Youll be surprised how successful some Atheist Cardinals and Bishops were in the middle ages.

Indeed.

Early Middle Ages to the Renaissance
The espousal of atheistic views was rare in Europe during the Early Middle Ages and Middle Ages (see Medieval Inquisition); metaphysics, religion and theology were the dominant interests.[81] There were, however, movements within this period that forwarded heterodox conceptions of the Christian God, including differing views of the nature, transcendence, and knowability of God. Individuals and groups such as Johannes Scotus Eriugena, David of Dinant, Amalric of Bena, and the Brethren of the Free Spirit maintained Christian viewpoints with pantheistic tendencies. Nicholas of Cusa held to a form of fideism he called docta ignorantia ("learned ignorance"), asserting that God is beyond human categorization, and our knowledge of God is limited to conjecture. William of Ockham inspired anti-metaphysical tendencies with his nominalistic limitation of human knowledge to singular objects, and asserted that the divine essence could not be intuitively or rationally apprehended by human intellect. Followers of Ockham, such as John of Mirecourt and Nicholas of Autrecourt furthered this view. The resulting division between faith and reason influenced later theologians such as John Wycliffe, Jan Hus, and Martin Luther.[82]

The Renaissance did much to expand the scope of freethought and skeptical inquiry. Individuals such as Leonardo da Vinci sought experimentation as a means of explanation, and opposed arguments from religious authority. Other critics of religion and the Church during this time included Niccolò Machiavelli, Bonaventure des Périers, and François Rabelais.[78]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Out of those if I *had* to choose one, it would be jew. For some reason it sounds the least racist choice :D

This is a very interesting poll. At first glance I thought "I can't answer this", but I decided to have a go at it anyway.

On careful examination of the candidates, I found that only two were defined by religious beliefs, while the others were defined either by race, gender, or lack of belief.

I personally hold that religious belief is a foolish thing, so that narrowed my choice down to the Jew and the Muslim. I voted the Muslim because in my experience they are more likely to be disruptive to a work environment. (Assuming the work environment is in America)

I would not be able to tell if some one was Muslim, Jew, or Atheist just by looking at them and it would be illegal for me to ask.
Even if I did know. I would not care.

I would not be able to tell if some one was Muslim, Jew, or Atheist just by looking at them and it would be illegal for me to ask.
Even if I did know. I would not care.


That's what facebook is for. :D

I would not be able to tell if some one was Muslim, Jew, or Atheist just by looking at them and it would be illegal for me to ask.
Even if I did know. I would not care.

Its tricky. I don't know about atheists. However, if, the day after the interviews, large numbers of people in the office begin to fall seriously ill from an unknown illness, chances are that you had had at least one Jew, Muslim or Leper amongst those applying for the job, and that they have poisoned your watercooler. Old habits die hard :p

None of the actual choices I would make were in the poll:


A pro gun control hippie-liberal pseudo-leftist loser
Someone who believes Stalin was the greatest man in the world
A neonazi / white supremacist
A pothead
Any single cause activist of the intellectually bankrupt new "left"


Note: Some of these are not mutually exclusive, specially 1, 4 and 5 are likely to be found in the same individual.

The woman.

The most likely scenario is, I am hiring masons. She is least likely to apply for the job, hence, the least likely I would hire.

Do you know, its been over 20 years since I've met a woman wanting to be a mason?

Not a whole lot of Jews or Athiests, either... but ZERO women want to lay bricks!

A mexican or a muslim...Just for own personal reason

Just because you're a racist?

The woman.

The most likely scenario is, I am hiring masons. She is least likely to apply for the job, hence, the least likely I would hire.

Do you know, its been over 20 years since I've met a woman wanting to be a mason?

Not a whole lot of Jews or Athiests, either... but ZERO women want to lay bricks!

I thought there were a lot of Jewish masons. Though it would be out of character for them to be the ones labouring to build the lodges.

I'm kidding, calm down! :p

No, I'm afraid not. Calarca, meet Soviestan. He's always hated women and been disgusted with their woman-ness this much. He thinks vaginas are venus flytraps.

He's close. Vaginas are, in fact, penis flytraps. Well, most of them, at any rate.

The woman.

The most likely scenario is, I am hiring masons. She is least likely to apply for the job, hence, the least likely I would hire.

Do you know, its been over 20 years since I've met a woman wanting to be a mason?

Not a whole lot of Jews or Athiests, either... but ZERO women want to lay bricks!

You're clearly not visiting the right porn sites.

Atheist. I'm very religious (fairly unique on NS forums), and wouldn't want someone spreading that belief among my employees. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc I have a little more tolerance for because their religion gives them a higher goal in life. Atheism, though, promotes apathy and fatalism.

I'd be least likely to employ whichever was the smallest demographic in the area I was running my business.

That poll is biased! I would hire the most suitable for the job. If the qualifications would be exactly the same (I doubt that) I would make a choice based on other traits good for the job (ability to work as a team, individuality, unbiased thinking, popularity - depends entirely on the job).

a woman. I would never hire a woman.

No, I'm afraid not. Calarca, meet Soviestan. He's always hated women and been disgusted with their woman-ness this much. He thinks vaginas are venus flytraps.
Wasn't Soviestan a run-of-the-mill liberal atheist at one point, then disappeared, found Allah and came back a Muslim? Maybe I'm tihnking of someone else.
Atheist. I'm very religious (fairly unique on NS forums), and wouldn't want someone spreading that belief among my employees. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc I have a little more tolerance for because their religion gives them a higher goal in life. Atheism, though, promotes apathy and fatalism.

No, it doesn't.

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

I didn't vote because personality has a lot to do with hiring, not just assumptions about race and religion. If I believe a person fits the culture of the company they have a job. If not, they walk.

Really, what a stupid poll.

I'd like to think I wouldn't employ the least qualified person.
I've considered that perhaps if I ever have a business, I'll just do interviews via the internet, then I won't have to be bothered by any of the physical, cultural or other characteristics of the interviewees. And I could do it naked.
Well, ok, I wouldn't. But who's to know, eh?

Not a whole lot of Jews or Athiests, either... but ZERO women want to lay bricks!
not true. There's plenty of women who want to work with heavy machinery:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DdLmyMUjXAM

I'd not hire the crippled black athiest lesbian. who's also an unmarried mother. and an ex-jew.

Atheist. I'm very religious (fairly unique on NS forums), and wouldn't want someone spreading that belief among my employees. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc I have a little more tolerance for because their religion gives them a higher goal in life. Atheism, though, promotes apathy and fatalism.

I'd rather not hijack this thread, but are you out of your mind? I've met just as many apathetic religious people as I have supremely ambitious atheists. Your blanket statements come from ignorance and indoctrination, and they are truly, truly sad.

Atheism promotes apathy and fatalism.
As opposed to religion which promotes intolerance and hatred. so much better.

How many wars have been fought, and deaths been caused, between atheists?

Atheist. I'm very religious (fairly unique on NS forums), and wouldn't want someone spreading that belief among my employees. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc I have a little more tolerance for because their religion gives them a higher goal in life. Atheism, though, promotes apathy and fatalism.

Actually, with its prophecies and all-knowing gods, I's suspect religion is more inclined to lead to fatalism. Please provide one tiny shread of evidence that atheism inherently leads to either apathy or fatalism, besides personal bigotry.

If all the religious people can keep their beliefs to themselves I don't care. I'd probably pin their names randomly on a dart board and throw blindfolded to pick one.

If all the religious people can keep their beliefs to themselves I don't care. I'd probably pin their names randomly on a dart board and throw blindfolded to pick one.

Nah, pick the hottest member of the opposite sex that flirts with you.

I chose the Muslim because depending on the job they are applying for and how strictly they practice their religion, there may be prayer/work scheduling conflicts. I would not have to worry about such conflicts with the other groups.

Of course, as I pointed out, this would only apply to positions in which such conflicts may arise. If there are no potential scheduling conflicts, then such considerations would not matter and I simply would choose the one most qualified.

Actually, with its prophecies and all-knowing gods, I's suspect religion is more inclined to lead to fatalism. Please provide one tiny shread of evidence that atheism inherently leads to either apathy or fatalism, besides personal bigotry.

Because they believe we all just rot when we die and so it doesn't really matter what we do during our lives?

I don't actually think atheists are fatalists, I'm just pointing out why someone might be inclined to think so.

Wasn't Soviestan a run-of-the-mill liberal atheist at one point, then disappeared, found Allah and came back a Muslim? Maybe I'm tihnking of someone else.


I think so. I'm thinking that when he found Allah, he also lost half his brain.

a woman. I would never hire a woman.

Um... why?

He's close. Vaginas are, in fact, penis flytraps. Well, most of them, at any rate.


My penis has yet to be digested by one. It appears to be still intact.

I admit I wouldn't want a Mormon. They're the guys that brought us no sex before marriage, magic underwear, baptism for the dead, that we really come from the planet Kolob, and that black people have dark skin because they stayed neutral in the fight against the devil. Also, the guy who started it supposedly read the book he wrote off magic gold plates in a hat that no one else saw and then couldn't do it again when his first copy was hidden. The way I see it, anyone who believes that bullshit is seriously screwed up in the head.

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job?
all of em. because my posistion is such that I don't employ people. ;)

I think so. I'm thinking that when he found Allah, he also lost half his brain.

I figured he was a troll at first, but he's really stuck with it.

There's a lot of people around here I hope are never in the position to be hiring employees.

Militant vegan, followed by a chain smoker.

I think mine is the only answer that, given the broad scope of the question, is most rational.

Meanwhile it seems a majority of people would discriminate against Blacks and Muslims. Why? I have no idea. It doesn't make that much sense, unless there's racial/ethnic discrimination involved.

Just wanna know. It's for any job they're all equally qualified, who would you be least likely to employ for a job? A Gallup poll showed that 95% would qualify a woman, 94% a Catholic, 92% a Jew or a Black, 79% a Mormon or a gay, but only 49% an atheist.

EDIT: How do you edit polls? I forgot to add gay as an option.

The unqualified one, everything else doesn't matter.

I guess I would be least likely to hire the black one...I don't know why maybe even the Jew actually depending on how hardcore s/he is (the Muslims would be interesting like getting a pet snake)

though I would probably be more inclined to not employ someone out of shape

Even that depends on the job. If you're hiring for phone customer-service rep position then you don't want someone in very good shape. He clearly has no experience sitting by a phone he is almost literally shackled to for hours on end. And it's not going to save you anything in health insurance because no matter how healthy they start out, they're all going to turn into dough.

The unqualified one, everything else doesn't matter.

You obviously can't read, it says they're all equally qualified.

Um... why?

Oh I don't know, I'm a woman myself I should point out! I suppose it depends what job I was hiring for.


If I was hiring for a builder, plumber, taxi driver or any other typically 'masculine' job I wouldn't hire a woman, obviously I know women are just as capable as men at doing these jobs but for some reason seeing a woman in these jobs, especially taxi driver, just really bugs me so I wouldn't hire one in this circumstance.

Any other job I would hire a woman though, with no problem.

But mainly, I chose women because I can never see a time when I would discriminate, either by choice or because of policy, against gay/ethnic/religious people.

I'm in Aus. I'm not going to be all politically correct and say I can't choose. I'd choose the black person as the one I wouldn't employ.

There is a huge connection to family in the black (aboriginal) community in Australia. What this means for an employee, is that a black employee will tend to have more "family issues" than a non-black employee. If it's my business on the line, I will, if I can get away with it, make choices on assumptions. THis black person may be the best employee ever, but if I've got nothing more to go on and he's as qualified as the white guy, I'm hiring whitey. What else can you go on?

If a woman employee is of child bearing age, I'm going to employ the man first. Yes, she may not get pregnant. But I know the man wont. When it's my business and my livelihood on the line, equality and fairness be damned. I'm not going to pay maternity leave, and have to train a new employee.

Just for the record. This is a crap state of affairs. The government needs to step in and give paid maternity leave so employers don't have to, and other things to stop this.

Nah, pick the hottest member of the opposite sex that flirts with you.
Most of the men who try to flirt with me fail the hotness test.

They also usually fail the witty test.

Do you think the results would change if 9/11 never happened?

Do you think the results would change if 9/11 never happened?

Yes, but they finally got our attention with their "we want to kill you" mantra.

But mainly, I chose women because I can never see a time when I would discriminate, either by choice or because of policy, against gay/ethnic/religious people.

You could do what I did and not answer the poll.

That's what I did.

Do you think the results would change if 9/11 never happened?

Why is it that everything lately's been blamed on the 9/11 incident?

You could do what I did and not answer the poll.

Ahhh no but the poll says 'which of these are you least likely to hire?' or words to that affect.

Because I could envisage a time when I would not hire a woman and I couldn't envisage a time when I would not hire a gay/black/religious person I chose the woman, as she is the one I am least likely to hire, if only under specific circumstances.

Do you know, its been over 20 years since I've met a woman wanting to be a mason?
Not a whole lot of Jews or Athiests, either... but ZERO women want to lay bricks!

not true. There's plenty of women who want to work with heavy machinery:
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Zombie, you don't lay bricks with heavy machinery! 8000 YEARS we've been doing this and bricks are still laid by hand, one at a time.

I chose the Muslim because depending on the job they are applying for and how strictly they practice their religion, there may be prayer/work scheduling conflicts. I would not have to worry about such conflicts with the other groups.
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Been there, done that, I've had/still have Muslim work crews. The prayer schedule thing is a non-issue, the devout Muslims take little roll-up rugs with them, and take a short break, nothing more than any red blooded athiest would take for a coffee break. They set the little rugs down wherever they are, even on a scaffold. A few minutes on their knees, and back to work.

I recall one guy causing a bit of concern because he was something of an extremist. He insisted upon washing his feet.

The only problem I could imagine would be in jobs which for some reason made even a short break impossible at certain times.

My penis has yet to be digested by one. It appears to be still intact.

You've obviously pulled it out in time or sheathed it in latex or some other barrier that prevents digestion.

I admit I wouldn't want a Mormon. They're the guys that brought us no sex before marriage, magic underwear, baptism for the dead, that we really come from the planet Kolob, and that black people have dark skin because they stayed neutral in the fight against the devil. Also, the guy who started it supposedly read the book he wrote off magic gold plates in a hat that no one else saw and then couldn't do it again when his first copy was hidden. The way I see it, anyone who believes that bullshit is seriously screwed up in the head.

More so than any other believer in an invisible, sky-dwelling avenger/savior?

Most of the men who try to flirt with me fail the hotness test.

They also usually fail the witty test.

Most women who...aw, who'm I kidding. No women flirt with me. However, those who catch my eye or my mind usually fail one of those two tests. Usually the latter.

Zombie, you don't lay bricks with heavy machinery! 8000 YEARS we've been doing this and bricks are still laid by hand, one at a time.

At least 11,000.