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Would you mention NSG on a CV?

Neu Leonstein
08-07-2008, 11:56
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?
The Great Leveller
08-07-2008, 12:02
Not directly, no.

But I have mentioned that I use the internet to communicate with a range of people over a wide variety of topics from around the world.

I've couched it in those terms, and not used anything more technical than "forum." I like to think it ticks a variety of boxes. Au fait with current technology, open minded, able to navigate barriers to effective communication, open mindedness and an awareness of current affairs. (Sorry, slipping into "middle manager speak" there, but that is the level I have been told to pitch it as. Not such an effective strategy imo)

Not sure how effective it has been though. I have a job, for what it is worth.
Longhaul
08-07-2008, 12:03
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?
I wouldn't, no.

It contains my personal views on religion, economic policies, ethnic divides, law enforcement, politics and a host of other issues, none of which should be relevant (or even considered) to any job application I might be making.

Also, I disagree that NSG forces people to "keep an open mind and absorb new information"... there are plenty of people here whose blinkers are well and truly in place and who are simply fighting their corner, rather than being prepared to accept and assimilate new ideas and evidence.
Barringtonia
08-07-2008, 12:05
Ha ha...no.

If it was a job involving story-telling in some way and I'd consistently been voted Most Amazing RP'er on the actual NS game then I might include it as relevant.

Providing half-assed, ill-thought out opinions on NSG.

No.
Cannot think of a name
08-07-2008, 12:12
Half the time I won't even admit to friends I'm on NSG.


Plus, there's things like I'm pretty open about smoking pot here, so if they were trying to be really thorough that might come up. Of course, they might just figure that out because I graduated from UC Santa Cruz, have long hair, a three inch goatee, and showed up to the interview in a split window VW Bus...

I'm in a creative field and I still don't think I could find an instance where I would list this as an asset.
Rambhutan
08-07-2008, 12:19
Not without checking every single comment I had ever made here first.
Neu Leonstein
08-07-2008, 12:22
Also, I disagree that NSG forces people to "keep an open mind and absorb new information"... there are plenty of people here whose blinkers are well and truly in place and who are simply fighting their corner, rather than being prepared to accept and assimilate new ideas and evidence.
Hmm, I guess you have a point. Simply amassing posts here is no guarantee of anything.

Still, sometimes I think that reading what I write here should tell someone something positive about me as a person. It's just that while that may be true, it doesn't really translate well into a different setting.
Delator
08-07-2008, 12:23
Not without checking every single comment I had have ever made here first.

This
Aelosia
08-07-2008, 12:24
Oh, at the office people already ask "What they think on that forum of yours about THAT?"

NSG is in some ways a window to the world. Specially when looking for specific political, social, religious and other kinds of postures around the world.
Laerod
08-07-2008, 12:33
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?If I were a mod, maybe, but I know from experience that bosses don't view "spends time on the internet on forums" very favorably.
Philosopy
08-07-2008, 12:34
No.

Unless the employer is a closet Generalite I can't imagine any circumstances in which it would be looked upon favourably.

Hell, I would give someone who put down a forum on their CV a wide berth.
The Great Leveller
08-07-2008, 12:39
No.

Unless the employer is a closet Generalite I can't imagine any circumstances in which it would be looked upon favourably.

Hell, I would give someone who put down a forum on their CV a wide berth.

That is why you only refer to it obliquely. And avoid mention of anything too "technical" such as forum, you might get away with "blog" unless they know what one is. Keep it in the sensible area of communicating with diverse people :)
Kryozerkia
08-07-2008, 12:54
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea... I'd never in a million years ever consider doing that!
SoWiBi
08-07-2008, 13:06
Unless your potential job AND company were very internet-related AND you had an account that you created solely to put forth arguments you want your future employer to read, I'd say it's one of the most stupid ideas one can have.


Your posts, both in content and in style, give away a heckload of personal information.

The fact that you spend considerable time online socializing and arguing on an informal message board is usually nothing to boast about, job-wise.



If my job were closely related to such things, I might add a reference to my participation in a tightly structured political debate forum, you know the ones that are likE debate clubs only online; more of an essay exchange than a forum, but never ever mention something like NSG!
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 13:09
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?

If I were looking for a job, say as a paid moderator or administrator of another site (and I had actual IT education on my resume), then yes.

For any job OTHER than a job related to the internet, no. HELL no.
My students know I moderate a game and site online, but there's no way on Earth or any OTHER planetoid I would tell them which one.
Cabra West
08-07-2008, 13:11
I don't think it would say a lot about my job qualifications. So, no, not really...
Kyronea
08-07-2008, 14:11
No, mainly because most internet forums aren't exactly as intellectual as this place can be, and as such they're not looked upon favorably, which means trying to explain how this place is good is likely to fall upon deaf ears.

Besides, under what job circumstances could it really apply anyway?
Kanabia
08-07-2008, 14:18
Nope.
Anti-Social Darwinism
08-07-2008, 16:48
NO!

Most jobs for which I am qualified are in places that don't applaud critical thinking, humor, wit, intelligence or, even, being informed on a wide variety of subjects. Add to that they don't like people who read for fun.

I am speaking, of couse, of large corporations, the government and most schools and universities.
Yootopia
08-07-2008, 16:53
No, not unless I was pretending I'd infiltrated it and was applying to be a spook or something :p

"aye look at all these baddies I found"
"nice"
Vault 10
08-07-2008, 18:00
I actually used to access not NSG, but NSD at work, and the appearance of a technical forum did a bit to make others think I was at least discussing work matters.

But actually mention it? That's completely stupid and irrelevant, like "I go to the pub every evening".

Unless, as mentioned, it's a job that involves servicing or operating a website.
Cookiton
08-07-2008, 18:10
If it was forming related then yes, other then that....never!
Call to power
08-07-2008, 18:15
spending all day masturbating is not a viable hobby...

though I always put down political science as an interest :)

My students know I moderate a game and site online, but there's no way on Earth or any OTHER planetoid I would tell them which one.

I find it odd how you spend all day controlling a bunch of ignorant selfish children to only go home and do exactly the same thing using the wages you was paid from the day job...

I would so stick forum moderator on my CV though
Grave_n_idle
08-07-2008, 18:20
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?

In the US, in practically every state, there is no protection from being fired if a boss decided they didn't like my opinion on any one of the hundreds of issues I've debated on here. So - no.

I would, however, perhaps mention friends and connections made on this medium. Networking is a pro.
Tmutarakhan
08-07-2008, 18:27
Anyone planning to offer me a job needs to know that I prefer to waste as many hours as possible chatting on the Internet.
Daistallia 2104
08-07-2008, 18:40
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?

Absolutely not. I'd most likely avoid any specific mention of online acivity, much less this cesspool...
Call to power
08-07-2008, 18:44
I would, however, perhaps mention friends and connections made on this medium. Networking is a pro.

and how would you do this?

"I know a bunch of lazy student benefit thieves who say they are far superior to what they obviously are" :p

Absolutely not. I'd most likely avoid any specific mention of online acivity, much less this cesspool...

your far better off telling your employers that you work out all day when you get home...yes absolutely nothing has ever gone wrong with that before :p
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 18:46
sI find it odd how you spend all day controlling a bunch of ignorant selfish children to only go home and do exactly the same thing using the wages you was paid from the day job...

Hehehehehe, you are not the first person to make this observation (I've wondered about it a while, myself) -- I wonder if it says more about my personality (liking to help) or mental health (glutton for punishment)? :D

And remember, kids.... I'm moderating on my vacation from work! ;)
Call to power
08-07-2008, 18:55
Hehehehehe, you are not the first person to make this observation (I've wondered about it a while, myself) -- I wonder if it says more about my personality (liking to help) or mental health (glutton for punishment)? :D

maybe you do it for the fantasy of "deleting" the annoying students ;)

And remember, kids.... I'm moderating on my vacation from work! ;)

:eek: education doesn't take a vacation! *imagines the horror*

edit: so NL why is this question really being asked?
Trans Fatty Acids
08-07-2008, 18:58
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?

The problem with citing your experience on this or any forum is that there's no way for someone reading your CV to tell if what you posted was impressively researched and reasoned debate or vague idiocy. Sure, this is a moderated forum, but that only keeps off the worst offenders.

On the other hand, a copy of a thread you had participated in might be useful as a writing sample, if either the subject or your ability to communicate on the internet were relevant to your job.
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 19:12
maybe you do it for the fantasy of "deleting" the annoying students ;)



:eek: education doesn't take a vacation! *imagines the horror*

edit: so NL why is this question really being asked?

That's what first person shooters are for, though my FPS tend to be sword-swinging and arrow-shooting....

Ooops, did I say that out loud?
Grave_n_idle
08-07-2008, 19:22
and how would you do this?

"I know a bunch of lazy student benefit thieves who say they are far superior to what they obviously are" :p


Probably not quite how I'd phrase it. :D
Laerod
08-07-2008, 19:41
And remember, kids.... I'm moderating on my vacation from work! ;)Yeah, but being sent home from class is probably less punishment than a ban here :p
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 19:43
Yeah, but being sent home from class is probably less punishment than a ban here :p

;) Who says I send them home?
Depending on how serious the infraction was.... in-house suspension sucks pretty hard.

That's where you go sit in a room with one of the deans and have all your work for the day brought to you... but don't get to interact with your classmates and don't get to stay home playing video games either.
Call to power
08-07-2008, 19:50
That's where you go sit in a room with one of the deans and have all your work for the day brought to you... but don't get to interact with your classmates and don't get to stay home playing video games either.

I actually really enjoyed that punishment mostly because I never actually did the work assigned in classes (the guy watching us was awesome and I got basically a free private tutor to help do all my coursework)

having the teacher rip the piss out of you in front of the class is far more traumatic I can assure you ;)
Laerod
08-07-2008, 19:53
;) Who says I send them home?I use equal signs to get those smilies across: >=)

Or you can disable smilies below.
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 20:03
having the teacher rip the piss out of you in front of the class is far more traumatic I can assure you ;)

"Sadly" ;), that's really not my style. Maybe as a first year teacher it was; I remember being very RAWR! but quickly realized it was not a very efficient method.

Now I'm more like, "Ok, guys, this is disruptive, can you knock it off?"
"Ok, guys, you're really starting to annoy me, I'm not going to remind you a third time," and then.... pick up the telephone and have the student removed, as calm as you please. Word gets around fast that there's no yelling and screaming, but that there is follow through on statements of consequences...


....and people wonder why I don't want kids of my own! ;)

I use equal signs to get those smilies across: >=)

Or you can disable smilies below.

I wish they had a Big Evil Grin smilie (as opposed to my "favorite", the "up yours smilie"), but thanks for the advice.

>=)
Ifreann
08-07-2008, 20:12
But then how could I bitch about my job here?
Ifreann
08-07-2008, 20:15
....and people wonder why I don't want kids of my own! ;)

Because you can't pick up a phone and have them removed when they annoy you?
Laerod
08-07-2008, 20:18
I wish they had a Big Evil Grin smilie (as opposed to my "favorite", the "up yours smilie"), but thanks for the advice.

>=)Well, one can always make their own. I felt the need to balance the undeniably British filthy rich smilie with a more German smilie of my own on another forum: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/ImperialSmiley.png
Call to power
08-07-2008, 20:56
Because you can't pick up a phone and have them removed when they annoy you?

I thought thats what grandmothers where for?
Katganistan
08-07-2008, 21:22
Because you can't pick up a phone and have them removed when they annoy you?

Pfagh. Grandparents and babysitters.


No, the answer is, "Because after 10 months of school and all year round of this, d'ya actually think I have the patience for kids?!"
IL Ruffino
08-07-2008, 21:25
With my luck they'd be all "Oh! I love NSG! I debate there all the time! What is your nation?"
Sirmomo1
08-07-2008, 22:21
Although my grasp of the jobs of individual users is fleeting at best, it seems like there is less correlation than you might expect between being a good user and getting a well paying job/ doing well at uni.
Neu Leonstein
08-07-2008, 23:25
edit: so NL why is this question really being asked?
I'm just putting together applications for a few internships at the moment, so the thought briefly crossed my mind. I am sceptical that it can be included in a way that the reader understands and interprets properly, but I still think it's a bit sad that my "efforts" here will remain unnoticed where it counts.

But meh, that's life.
Call to power
08-07-2008, 23:41
I'm just putting together applications for a few internships at the moment, so the thought briefly crossed my mind. I am sceptical that it can be included in a way that the reader understands and interprets properly, but I still think it's a bit sad that my "efforts" here will remain unnoticed where it counts.

just put under hobbies political science, I have certainly never been asked what that involves :p

also the less the internet matters in the real world the better surely?
Poliwanacraca
08-07-2008, 23:46
I can think of several very good reasons why I would never ever tell a potential employer my screenname here:

- I have discussed my (rather unconventional) sexual preferences here.

- I have discussed my (costly on insurance policies, and much discriminated-against) mental health issues here.

- I have discussed my (potentially controversial) political beliefs here.

- Last, but certainly not least, I do an awful lot of my posting here when I am theoretically "working," which is probably not the greatest testament to my work ethic. :p
Aelosia
09-07-2008, 03:30
Although my grasp of the jobs of individual users is fleeting at best, it seems like there is less correlation than you might expect between being a good user and getting a well paying job/ doing well at uni.

Indeed, I am well payed for what I do.
Soviestan
09-07-2008, 07:19
sweet jesus no.
Blouman Empire
09-07-2008, 08:11
The bad thing about this is that your potential employer may also be on this forum and saying who you were may lead to you not getting a job. For instance you may have disagreed with someones viewpoint that person could be your next boss, best not to tell anyone anything.
Callisdrun
09-07-2008, 08:13
An odd question, but I was wondering. This place is pretty involved. Doing a "good job" here is in my view certainly a sign of a capable individual able to think, criticise and properly express thoughts. It also keeps you informed and forces you to keep an open mind and absorb new information.

All of these are good traits one might be looking for when hiring...but would you actually consider putting your posting here, or even your profile name, on a resume or CV?

No.