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So, taking advantage of a roadtrip, Gasponia and I would like to get a bunch of NSers together this summer in New York City. Unlike some previous meets, since we're on a fairly tight schedule according to our roadtrip plans, there are some fixed details for this meetup.

Date: August 2nd, Saturday
Time: 10amish - 4pmish
Location: Front of the NYC Public Library at 5th Ave and 42nd St. (near Grand Central and Times Square)
Things to Do: I'm a tourist, you tell me :p

So, fill in the poll above and your ideas below, and if you're in a different city that we're going to, perhaps we'll see you then, just drop a note in the other thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557783). :)

By virtue of the fact that it's my car we're driving on this trip, I will be attending this event. :) Huzzah!

Edit: As to the fourth option in the poll, quit yer whining and host a meet yourself!

I suggest somewhere in or around Times Square. 58th and 5th is a schlep if you're coming in from GCT or Penn Station.

Any ideas on a specific place? I've had enough trouble meeting people in an open space where there weren't that many people, trying to do it in the middle of Times Square would be a nightmare.

Any ideas on a specific place? I've had enough trouble meeting people in an open space where there weren't that many people, trying to do it in the middle of Times Square would be a nightmare.

I wouldn't suggest meeting in the street, that's for sure! :)

There are tons of easy to find, tacky places in the area, like BB King's or The Bubba Gump Shrimp Company, which the average New Yorker tends to avoid but anyone can tell a tourist where it is. And in the worst case scenario, EVERYONE can find Times Square no matter how they're getting into the city. It's only about 7 blocks from either train station, and even the cab drivers from Kazahstan can make drive to Square of Clocks and Lights Flashing. :D

The problem isn't whether or not Eras and I can find the meet location; I've been to the city before and know it decently well for someone who doesn't live there. The problem is that we all look like tourists pretty much. We'd blend it too easily. We need an obvious, relatively quiet meeting place, where the group could gather without mistaking each other for tourists.

Kat has suggested we all wear similar colored Tshirts. So... what color would y'all like? :confused:

:D

Ooh! What potential! One can get away with considerable silliness in New York City.

I'll have to start softening up Mrs Goofball. I'll try to let you know one way or the other as soon as i can.

Ooh! What potential! One can get away with considerable silliness in New York City.

I'll have to start softening up Mrs Goofball. I'll try to let you know one way or the other as soon as i can.

Eras, a suggestion: someplace distinctly UNMUDDY.

Eras, a suggestion: someplace distinctly UNMUDDY.
haha, I'll try to avoid the water's edge anywhere and open grass.

Gasponia and I would like to get a bunch of NSers together this summer in New York City.

This is not at all what I meant. How fixed do you think my poor little bus will be? And how unfair is it that this one will get Lunatic Goofballs?

Bah. BAH! I say...

This is not at all what I meant. How fixed do you think my poor little bus will be? And how unfair is it that this one will get Lunatic Goofballs?

Bah. BAH! I say...
Seriously, walk over tomorrow morning and get Pyth to make you breakfast. :p I'll be gone then, just don't trash my place.

I'll be there!!

I suggest meeting in Bryant Park. It has plenty of chairs for groups to sit at. It's right behind the public library. I can put a few signs to guide NS players that want to meet. The NS eye logo would be cool.

If everyone agrees, I'll post directions here.

By the way, since school is out it shouldn't be packed especially at that time. There will be tourists all over the place, but this is NYC...Midtown at that. Bryant park always has empty sections when school is out.

Ooh! What potential! One can get away with considerable silliness in New York City.

I'll have to start softening up Mrs Goofball. I'll try to let you know one way or the other as soon as i can.
What? You mean that the only weekend this entire summer I'm going to be out of town, that's the weekend that Lunatic Goofballs is coming to New York?
I'm not sure whether to be pissed off or relieved.

I'll actually be in the area sometime in August, so I might make it. But Philly is the main attraction on my vacation.

Eras, a suggestion: someplace distinctly UNMUDDY.

haha, I'll try to avoid the water's edge anywhere and open grass.

Aww... :(

I'll have to bring a bucket of my own. :)

This is not at all what I meant. How fixed do you think my poor little bus will be? And how unfair is it that this one will get Lunatic Goofballs?

Bah. BAH! I say...

What? You mean that the only weekend this entire summer I'm going to be out of town, that's the weekend that Lunatic Goofballs is coming to New York?
I'm not sure whether to be pissed off or relieved.

This is far from definite. Summer weekends are my bread and butter and well, the bread and butter has been rationed this summer. Probably due to the recession and gas crunch.

Assuming that I don't have major testing that weekend, I may be able to come.

I think also the Penny Arcade Expo is in August in Seattle so i don't know......

We're really not all that interesting, and testing and the arcade expo are much more important. Hell, the PA Expo could be a once in a lifetime opportunity for you. I'd do that if I could.

We're really not all that interesting, and testing and the arcade expo are much more important. Hell, the PA Expo could be a once in a lifetime opportunity for you. I'd do that if I could.

Well the PA Expo is in Seattle so unless I'm going to work for the Commercial division, I'll probably not go.

Either way, there is a strong likelihood that I may be going to this one ^_^ and I highly doubt you're "interesting" if you're making a big deal about it :P

I should be able to attend this.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I am tentatively out for this one, though not positive.

*damns the gas and the four hour drive*

I won't be there as it's way too far...plus in August I'll be in Europe.

However, I literally just got back from NY.

I suggest meeting in Battery Park, below the Financial District. It's beautiful, open (so you can spot each other)...and well, right below the financial district so there's tons of stuff to see and places to eat.

Why can't we ever have a winter meet in Orlando? We have sun, we have beaches, and we have disney world.

Not August though... this place sucks in August. We should do something like that in January.

J~

*meanders off to do other things, completely forgetting about the NY meet*

Why can't we ever have a winter meet in Orlando? We have sun, we have beaches, and we have disney world.

Not August though... this place sucks in August. We should do something like that in January.

J~

*meanders off to do other things, completely forgetting about the NY meet*
Do you go to college in Orlando?

Do you go to college in Orlando?

I live & work here.

So, taking advantage of a roadtrip, Gasponia and I would like to get a bunch of NSers together this summer in New York City. Unlike some previous meets, since we're on a fairly tight schedule according to our roadtrip plans, there are some fixed details for this meetup.

Date: August 2nd, Saturday
Time: 10-11amish - 4pmish
Location: No idea, although FAO Schwarz area has been suggested by Katganistan, we need someplace that we can recognize other NSers without catching random tourists
Things to Do: I'm a tourist, you tell me :p

So, fill in the poll above and your ideas below, and if you're in a different city that we're going to, perhaps we'll see you then, just drop a note in the other thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557783). :)

Might be able to make it. I'd recommend the Guggenheim if you're a fan of art. I love that place.

Only reason I may not be able to make it is time constraints, as I've got a grad party to go to that Sunday and tons of projects to work on.

I should be able to attend this.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Wooo... TG reminded me to see if you would come, glad you saw this. :)

Might be able to make it. I'd recommend the Guggenheim if you're a fan of art. I love that place.

Only reason I may not be able to make it is time constraints, as I've got a grad party to go to that Sunday and tons of projects to work on.
We're getting city passes, so we'll be visiting, but we're not the biggest fans of modern art.

We're getting city passes, so we'll be visiting, but we're not the biggest fans of modern art.

Fair enough.

Uggg. I want to go, and meet up. And although it's only like 30-1hr away, I don't have a car/license (permit)/ and my mom might say: "Your meeting up with WHO!? Random strangers who are 1-20yrs. older then you, and who possibly might kidnap me."/and yeah...that's about it.

Leaving to Japan... one day before the meet-up.

*glares*

Uggg. I want to go, and meet up. And although it's only like 30-1hr away, I don't have a car/license (permit)/ and my mom might say: "Your meeting up with WHO!? Random strangers who are 1-20yrs. older then you, and who possibly might kidnap me."/and yeah...that's about it.
Well... we're pretty damn trustworthy characters and upstanding citizens. Some of us at least. :p

Might be able to make it. I'd recommend the Guggenheim if you're a fan of art. I love that place.

Hell of a skateboard ramp. :-D
Oh no, I did NOT say that!

Hell of a skateboard ramp. :-D
Oh no, I did NOT say that!

Frank Lloyd Wright just twitched in his grave, hehe.

Uggg. I want to go, and meet up. And although it's only like 30-1hr away, I don't have a car/license (permit)/ and my mom might say: "Your meeting up with WHO!? Random strangers who are 1-20yrs. older then you, and who possibly might kidnap me."/and yeah...that's about it.
Well, I met and ended up dating another NSer when I was seventeen. It ended up being a horrible mistake that ended badly, but your mileage may vary. We don't bite or anything, I swear.

Kat has suggested we all wear similar colored Tshirts. So... what color would y'all like? :confused:

:D

Everyone should show up in bright red Leisure suits.

I don't know NYC that well, but i live quite close, about 45 minutes. I could totally and completely make this, especially if its on a Saturday.

I'd consider it if I was in New York. Hmm, I'll be moving to Toronto in August. Its actually pretty close. So lets say a 1% chance I'll make it, and a very good chance if you ever have a meet in Toronto.:)

Frank Lloyd Wright just twitched in his grave, hehe.

He'd forgive me; I've made my pilgrimage to Taliesin (http://www.taliesinpreservation.org/). :D

If we haven't found out how to recognize each other, why not wear large, cumbersome, slightly ridiculous hats?

It would certainly distinguish us.

If we haven't found out how to recognize each other, why not wear large, cumbersome, slightly ridiculous hats?

It would certainly distinguish us.

Um....
it's NYC.

Um....
it's NYC.

Carry large flags of your NS nations!

Galloism, you're a genius.

Well, ok, you got me thinking, so I'm a genius.

well, ok, so I'm not.

Anyone been to a convention? They usually make you wear a con-badge with your name (or fan name) on them to get around.

Welllllll, why not make and wear cheesy, "Hi, my name is [nationname]" badges (or if you work somewhere where they have the stickers, grab one.

Well , well I didn't know this thread was up a bunch of NSers coming to my fair city, .. and maybe like a Gideon so we know were to rally?

Flags? Badges?

I suddenly feel like avoiding this thing. :p

Maybe talking with funny fake accents.

(Marvin the Martian voice) Excuse me, but did you happen to see a group of humans come through here with a gobbledegook demodulator?

Hell of a skateboard ramp. :-D
Oh no, I did NOT say that!

*fines*

I think Bryant Park has been suggested twice, and looking at a map of it, it seems quite close to both Times Square and Grand Central Station.

Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=40.754604,-73.982749&spn=0.007737,0.018797&z=16

As to recognizing each other... maybe we can stick a sign in some grass to attract other people like company picnics or something so it doesn't feel silly.

He'd forgive me; I've made my pilgrimage to Taliesin (http://www.taliesinpreservation.org/). :D

Oooh, neat. I'll have to make plans to head out there if I'm ever in the Wisconsin area. I've been to Fallingwater in PA, but that's about it.

I think Bryant Park has been suggested twice, and looking at a map of it, it seems quite close to both Times Square and Grand Central Station.

Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=40.754604,-73.982749&spn=0.007737,0.018797&z=16

As to recognizing each other... maybe we can stick a sign in some grass to attract other people like company picnics or something so it doesn't feel silly.

Well, when we did the Philly Meetup last year, alls we did was pick a restaurant (admittedly, a place that had changed IMMENSELY for the worse in the year I'd been gone from Philly), and it was small enough and empty enough that noticing the large group of people sitting around debating with one another wasn't so hard. (Well, it was easy for me, since I was the first one to arrive.)

Recognition is simple. Everyone buy a copy of one of Max's books and bring it with you to Bryant Park. Then, all you have to do is look for the people carrying a Max Barry book. Problem solved.

"Think about it for a moment." :p

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Recognition is simple. Everyone buy a copy of one of Max's books and bring it with you to Bryant Park. Then, all you have to do is look for the people carrying a Max Barry book. Problem solved.

"Think about it for a moment." :p

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Yeah, but that would involve having to spend money. On a book of all things.

Yeah, but that would involve having to spend money. On a book of all things.
Well, I have a copy of Jennifer Government for everyone to sign for Max, so assuming Gaspo and I get there earlyish we can put it out for people to find.

Well, I have a copy of Jennifer Government for everyone to sign for Max, so assuming Gaspo and I get there earlyish we can put it out for people to find.What? You're still carrying that around, or this a new one? I will demand photos of the additions. All I seem to remember is writing "O rly?! ya rly! no wai! OMG! WTF?! BBQ!!1"2!" on the back. I can't remember why though...

Anyway, someone TM me an address whilst I think of something to send to your meetup.

... oh and surely the most obvious way to meet up is to spam one person's picture all over the internet. That way you all know who to look for on the day. Or Kat could dress up like in the photo where she's at that ren fair. That would be easy to spot. NO! Better idea! Everyone get a plain t-shirt a get a picture of the "Don't worry Sir/Ma'am, I'm from the internet" meme printed on it. Like this one. That'd be cool. :)
http://stuff.orly.ch/img/blog/dont_worry_sir_i_m_from_the_internet.jpg

Oh, I just remembered, I have to donate some autographed photos for this shindig, who do I contact to set this up?

What? You're still carrying that around, or this a new one? I will demand photos of the additions. All I seem to remember is writing "O rly?! ya rly! no wai! OMG! WTF?! BBQ!!1"2!" on the back. I can't remember why though...
Same book :p This will be it's last journey though, then I'll bug Max for an address to send it to.
Anyway, someone TM me an address whilst I think of something to send to your meetup.
Oh, I just remembered, I have to donate some autographed photos for this shindig, who do I contact to set this up?
For a physical address, you may email Gasponia for his address (gasponia@gmail.com), but I'll warn you we are leaving there the 22nd, so it needs to get there before then.

I would love...I repeat LOVE to meet other NSers just for the lols and the "wow I thought you'd look like xxx" comments. That being said, I have no time for a trip to New York, and while I have the money, I'd rather not spend it on an NS convention. That and my girlfriend thinks I'm weird enough with NS and MMO's and such lol.

She started dating a football-playing frat-boy. Look what she got herself into ;)

Oh, I just remembered, I have to donate some autographed photos for this shindig, who do I contact to set this up?

Did you see any of the ones from last year, after the Meetup while you were around Philly? We put them up in a couple of places. The ones I distinctly remember were Village Pizza, Ajia, and the Sheraton Hotel a bunch of people were staying at.

I would love...I repeat LOVE to meet other NSers just for the lols and the "wow I thought you'd look like xxx" comments. That being said, I have no time for a trip to New York, and while I have the money, I'd rather not spend it on an NS convention. That and my girlfriend thinks I'm weird enough with NS and MMO's and such lol.

She started dating a football-playing frat-boy. Look what she got herself into ;)
Just remind her it's part of the whole "quirky charm". And make sure she never stumbles into General...she might have to leave when she realizes you're "one of them"

Did you see any of the ones from last year, after the Meetup while you were around Philly? We put them up in a couple of places. The ones I distinctly remember were Village Pizza, Ajia, and the Sheraton Hotel a bunch of people were staying at.

I saw the meet photos, and plan on hunting the actual photos down. *nods*

The problem isn't whether or not Eras and I can find the meet location; I've been to the city before and know it decently well for someone who doesn't live there. The problem is that we all look like tourists pretty much. We'd blend it too easily. We need an obvious, relatively quiet meeting place, where the group could gather without mistaking each other for tourists.
In New York City, the closest you could get to that would be rural Pennsylvania.

Well, I own and could bring all of Max's books, so that could pretty much cover the first few people to arrive as far as using the books as IDs is concerned. I could also wear a giant hat, as I have several of those. The combination might be enough, perhaps?

Galloism, you're a genius.

That's all of your post that I read.

Thank you.

Anyone been to a convention? They usually make you wear a con-badge with your name (or fan name) on them to get around.

Welllllll, why not make and wear cheesy, "Hi, my name is [nationname]" badges (or if you work somewhere where they have the stickers, grab one.
I'm from NYC...and we "don't need no stinking badges!" lol

I still say just putting up the NS eye in the location of the meet will do.

Carry large flags of your NS nations!
We could easily print out a flag...we could post here links to the flags of the members attending...should be easy.

Hey Cog, were u at the Max appearance in NYC, believe it was for his other book... at that bar in Manhattan? I posted that pic here once.

Cisco, if you want to print out an eye as a flag that'd be lovely.

Well guys, we'll be leaving pretty soon, so we should probably get a time and location finalized. We're thinking it would be best to go with Bryant Park, at 10:30. We need to pick a specific location within the park, and for that I defer to the New Yorkers. I have some distinctive shirts that I can wear to make me easier to spot, and I'll post the details on that when I decide which one to go with. I'll also bring a copy of some Max Barry book with me for further ID purposes. So, suggestions on where in the park to meet?

I'm so there!

NYC FTW.

Well I have to and usually work until 4:00 p.m. on Saturday's but I'll see if I can make it.

It may be easier, actually, to meet in front of the library -- how about at the right lion as you face the front door? That's a pretty unmistakable landmark.

Great, pick the one weekend i'm going out of the city... Maybe i'll swing in on my way to Grand Central, if i'm lucky :(

It may be easier, actually, to meet in front of the library -- how about at the right lion as you face the front door? That's a pretty unmistakable landmark.

I like this idea. We can then go to the park for a bit to wait for people who show up late, before heading off on our fabulous day doing whatever. Huzzah!

So, to review, 10am, right-hand lion as you face the library. That's great, as I haven't been to the library on any of my trips to NYC and have always wanted to see it. :)

I like this idea. We can then go to the park for a bit to wait for people who show up late, before heading off on our fabulous day doing whatever. Huzzah!

So, to review, 10am, right-hand lion as you face the library. That's great, as I haven't been to the library on any of my trips to NYC and have always wanted to see it. :)
Not sure people would like this idea, but they offer tours at the library at 11am. So we could go do that for an hour before lunch.

Not sure people would like this idea, but they offer tours at the library at 11am. So we could go do that for an hour before lunch.

This would be lovely... to call it merely a library is an understatement of the most incredible kind. The NYPL is gorgeous, and the artwork in it, as well as the architecture, worth an ogle.

Great, pick the one weekend i'm going out of the city... Maybe i'll swing in on my way to Grand Central, if i'm lucky :(

Ah that sucks...I was gonna mention this to you too.

The first time Max came to Phx on tour, March 31st of last year, my car was totaled less than a mile from Changing Hands (the bookstore it was held at). Needless to say, I was very annoyed. Pics are up on myspace, BTW.

If I had seen this thread like a month ago, I'd be there.

I like the flag idea. That would be super cool. But if one is in New York, and meeting people on a political-book-based forum, why not meet near the UN building? It would be very funny to take a huge group picture protesting the UN for making us change to the WA.

It's a good thing we aren't going today, if you were going to Bryant Park, seeing that there's over 8,000 people there...

The first time Max came to Phx on tour, March 31st of last year, my car was totaled less than a mile from Changing Hands (the bookstore it was held at). Needless to say, I was very annoyed. Pics are up on myspace, BTW.

If I had seen this thread like a month ago, I'd be there.

I like the flag idea. That would be super cool. But if one is in New York, and meeting people on a political-book-based forum, why not meet near the UN building? It would be very funny to take a huge group picture protesting the UN for making us change to the WA.

OH NO! WE'RE GONNA GET SUED!
(thanks, David Letterman) ;)

It's a good thing we aren't going today, if you were going to Bryant Park, seeing that there's over 8,000 people there...

Hmm... good point...

I just checked the calendar -- they're having events at the park on Aug. 2 from noon onwards. We should be ok, I think.

http://www.bryantpark.org/calendar/aug.php?y=2008

And... 8,000? Ahhhh, that's not so much. ;)

We could go over to the UN building if we want, but meeting at the library and adjourning to Bryant Park for a little while if we want seems the easiest option. The first thing at Bryant Park is supposed to be for kids in the Reading Room, so I think we'll be okay sticking around in the park for awhile. Or if we decide to take a tour of the library, we'll be back out in an hour.

You sure the UN would want NSers anywhere near them? -_-

Also due to the bastard post office hours, I can't send you the booty.

I can, however, link you to a majestic photo that you can print off and tape all over NYC and anywhere else you find yourself.

I, for one, would be amused if you were to infiltrate the Met and get my photo on the gallery wall.

http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01208/27/33/1208913372_l.jpg

You sure the UN would want NSers anywhere near them? -_-

Also due to the bastard post office hours, I can't send you the booty.

I can, however, link you to a majestic photo that you can print off and tape all over NYC and anywhere else you find yourself.

I, for one, would be amused if you were to infiltrate the Met and get my photo on the gallery wall.

http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01208/27/33/1208913372_l.jpg

Now that is truly a work of art! ^_^

Also, it's getting awefully gritty to the wire.....

question, can there be any way this could be a 2 weekend day event? I got life guarding on Saturday...

Well, Gaspo and I will be in the city doing touristy things if you care to meet, but most people don't like to come out on Sundays because they have to work the next day.

Well, Gaspo and I will be in the city doing touristy things if you care to meet, but most people don't like to come out on Sundays because they have to work the next day.

I found the city to be less crowded for that reason :).

I found the city to be less crowded for that reason :).People tend to give me plenty of room so space is never really a problem for me, on the other hand I often walked around dressed as a Viking, and often smell like one too, so maybe that is why I get enough room when I walk around.

You so do NOT wear horn-helmets! ;)

I think we should have a meet in Tienanmen Square...i hear they have great rates on park rentals, lol...

But...its a loooong trip to New York from Biloxi, like, 2 days with no stops...so, with college im probably not going, lol...

But...its a loooong trip to New York from Biloxi, like, 2 days with no stops...so, with college im probably not going, lol...


Tell me about it ... Driving to the other side of Texas is that long for me.

I wish I'd have known about it sooner. I'd sooooo have gone! :)

Sorry! :( No can do, gotta work. :(
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

Hey, Ilie pointed it out that a bunch of cities are doing a "Restaurant week" now/soon.

http://www.google.com/search?q=restaurant+week

Well, only a few days left until the meetup, hope you're all ready. Gaspo and I brought along several of Max's books to hold up for people outside the library. That'll be appropriate, books at the library.

I don't think I'll be able to go after all. Damn.

Same... No transportation available. And I gotta save those paychecks of mine for college... Damn

Well I apologize I won't be around, I'm working this weekend and I can't get off either. Have fun!!!

Eras and I have modified our plans such that we're good until about 5:30 as well, so that gives us a lot more flexibility in timing. Looking forward to seeing those of you who are coming this Saturday, at 10AM in front of the Public Library at 5th Avenue and 42nd Street. We'll try to hang around until about 10:30, after which we'll be in Bryant Park for a while, so late comers might be able to get us. If you'll be later than that, you can email me and I'll give you my cell number if you'd like to try to meet us. Emails sent to gasponia@gmail.com will pop up fairly promptly on my phone, so even messages the day of will be okay. Looking forward to seeing lots of folks!

Carter and I will be there.

What about my photos? :o :(

Can't afford it, and besides, I'm too busy looking for an apartment. If one of these things ever gets held in Bangor, ME, I'm there.


Not that there's anything to do here.

I shan't be there in person, but will in spirit. I've already had a chance to sign the infamous Book during a marvelous lunch with Eras and Gaspo on their trip north.

I encourage anyone who is still waffling to make the effort. They're nice people.

Naw can't but if there's another later this year I can go.

There's no way I can make it, even to Philly (though I'll probably hit Philly later this year; I'll definitely be there on the 14th of March, however).

What about my photos? :o :(

The photos never arrived, sorry. We would have been told if they arrived after we left, but nothing did. :/

The photos never arrived, sorry. We would have been told if they arrived after we left, but nothing did. :/

You missed my post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13845925&postcount=79), I see..

I'll be there...just can't make it at 10. I need to get a haircut and will be at the barbers till 11 probably. I should make it by 12pm.

U can't miss me...I'll be the big Darkskin guy with a Giants Jersey, white and red #92....go Big Blue!


Anyway...will be shooting u an email in a few minutes Gaspo.

So..... Where are you guys? :p

So..... Where are you guys? :p

The other entrance, obv.

Well, we got tired of waiting and moved to a deli a half block away. Tresville will be here shortly, then who knows where we're going. :)

:D

The rest of you guys should have come, really. Carterway and I really enjoyed spending time with Erastide, Gasponia and The Tresville Element -- they are awesome folks. We saw a photographic exhibition on "Eminent Domain", some amazing oil painting portraits and, the architecture of the NYPL itself. The carvings, statues, and murals on the walls and ceilings are incredible.

It sucks, I could have gone but I woke up late. XD