NationStates Jolt Archive


Music Piracy

baffledbylife
04-07-2008, 02:01
I'm bored... so I wonderd where on this questionnaire people fell....

POLL TITLE: MUSIC PIRACY - DO YOU EVER FEEL GUILTY?

A: yes- because i'm taking money from the band who make it - if i could i would directly pay the band for their music

B: yes- but I'm adverse to paying for music when i can get it free

C: no- It's out there free and people expect me to PAY for it? LIKE HELL!

D: no- Music should and MUST BE FREE!!!!

E: sometimes- when i think about it

F: HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU DO SOMETHING AS IMMORAL AS MUSIC PIRACRY?

ans yes i know there is a poll function... but i want reasons as well as where you stand on the issue....
Calarca
04-07-2008, 05:18
not really. the recording industry suits are bigger pirates than any fans out there copying the music....

Besides, I'm deaf, what use is music to me?

Music VIDEOS now, they're nice :D switch off my hearing aid and watch the spice girls or Britney Spears bounce and jiggle across the TV screen ;)
Skalvia
04-07-2008, 05:31
No...I was gonna say it depends but really...I dont...

If theyre major label, then theyre making their real money outta touring and already have made a name for themselves anyway...and who cares about Label Execs

And for Indy bands, you usually cant get ahold of their stuff any other way...

But, if i can, I try to by Indy Label stuff legit, cause they still need to make a name for themselves and need people to buy their recordings...

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/thecodebreaker/Musicpiratebig.jpg
Trollgaard
04-07-2008, 05:35
I have a few downloaded cds. But I have many more cds that I paid for. Hundreds, in fact. It pisses me off that people can claim to be music fans and all they have is downloaded music. The downloaded music i have I listened to see if I liked the band. If I liked the music, I went out and bought some of the bands cds. If you are a fan, pull out your wallet, throw down some cash, and support the damn band!
The Alma Mater
04-07-2008, 05:58
If my country had not implemented a tax system that essentially boils down to me paying for the "right" to download songs (yes, even if I don't I still have to pay), I might feel guilty yes. It is after all someone elses intellectual copyright, and therefor their decision how to distribute it.

The unfair "tax" however reduces the strain on my conscience.
Damor
04-07-2008, 08:46
Considering I'm paying for it, I may just as well.
But actually I don't, really. I have a bit, but I downloaded that years ago.
Mirkana
04-07-2008, 11:27
A - I only download for free if I cannot acquire the music otherwise. I figure that if the RIAA finds out, I'll just pay the value of the songs I've downloaded.

Consider this: I own 5 Breaking Benjamin songs. One of these - Blow Me Away - I downloaded illegaly. The other 4 I bought on iTunes. The difference? Blow Me Away is not available on iTunes!
Philosopy
04-07-2008, 11:32
I buy all my music online.

As much as people try to justify music piracy, I think it is no different to going into a record store and putting the CDs in your pocket.
Pure Metal
04-07-2008, 11:43
somewhere between A and B. i pay for Napster and still buy CDs, largely because i feel the artist deserves something and i like supporting my favourite bands (i want Chuck Billy from Testament to be able to feed his family and keep making music for me to listen to!)

but then some things should stay free. such as music videos on youtube (i'm watching a Kraftwerk video right now as it happens)... if i had to pay each time i watched a (music) video, i wouldn't discover a lot of music i like.
Rambhutan
04-07-2008, 11:49
I pay for any music I download. I believe that if I have paid for a cd nothing should stop me putting music from it on my phone and that I should be able to burn onto a cd music I have paid to download onto my phone or computer.
DrunkenDove
04-07-2008, 11:54
No, because I'm a thief and I'm ok with that.
Extreme Ironing
04-07-2008, 12:04
Very rarely download things nowadays, instead I listen to things on a streaming service my college pays for and then buy cds.
Pure Metal
04-07-2008, 12:12
I pay for any music I download. I believe that if I have paid for a cd nothing should stop me putting music from it on my phone and that I should be able to burn onto a cd music I have paid to download onto my phone or computer.

i hate DRM... its the main reason i still buy CDs for stuff i really want/like. its mine and i can do what i want with it (cd for the car, on xbox, on computer, mp3 player, phone, etc)

it annoys me that i'm paying Napster money each month and i have to pay again for a CD. i understand the reasoning, but its still annoying....
Hurdegaryp
04-07-2008, 12:26
Since the rise of MySpace, I rarely need to download anything anymore if I want to know how a band sounds. Since I'm a genuine music fan and collector, I've got a rather nice cd collection
Londim
04-07-2008, 12:30
If I find a band I like I then I buy the CD or if I find a band I like on MySpace who are paying for everything themselves then I support them buy buying their EP's.

However since I started my blog bands have sent me free MP3's for me to showcase on my podcast to get them some attention. I like to help truly talented bands who need the help and exposure. Its also allowed me to make new friends and contacts.
Rambhutan
04-07-2008, 13:06
i hate DRM... its the main reason i still buy CDs for stuff i really want/like. its mine and i can do what i want with it (cd for the car, on xbox, on computer, mp3 player, phone, etc)

it annoys me that i'm paying Napster money each month and i have to pay again for a CD. i understand the reasoning, but its still annoying....

I have some CDs that have some kind of DRM on, one that won't play on a computer and some where you cannot copy all the tracks.
ColaDrinkers
04-07-2008, 13:19
No, I don't feel guilty pirating anything. When I buy something it's not because I feel morally obligated to do so, but because I would like to support a person/company/product that I like.

I never buy music though, because I'm just not much of a music fan. It's been months since the last time I listened to music. That's when a hard drive with some 200GB MP3s on it died, but I haven't missed it one bit. However I do plan to buy whatever is available directly from Trent Reznor, because because what he's doing deserves to be supported. I just gotta work up the courage to use my debit card online...
Longhaul
04-07-2008, 13:28
I have some CDs that have some kind of DRM on, one that won't play on a computer and some where you cannot copy all the tracks.
Any audio or video media that can be played, can be copied. It is simply not possible for to prevent it completely. Some forms of copy protection may make it a little more difficult, but it's always possible... the only way to make it impossible would be to prevent it being played in the first place, which sort of defeats the purpose.
Rambhutan
04-07-2008, 13:53
Any audio or video media that can be played, can be copied. It is simply not possible for to prevent it completely. Some forms of copy protection may make it a little more difficult, but it's always possible... the only way to make it impossible would be to prevent it being played in the first place, which sort of defeats the purpose.

Yes I have got round these attempts at protection; it just was an annoying waste of time that from their point of view achieved absolutely nothing but annoying a paying customer.
Corporatum
04-07-2008, 14:13
I've never bought a single music CD and most likely never will. Then again, most of my music comes from friends/family members. Today is the first time in... 5-6 years that I downloaded some music myself.

Same with games. I used to download a lot of them, but after I got into WoW it kinda stopped dead on it's tracks. I've actually bought the 4 latest games I've played.

In my case it's of course simple matter of money - can't spend what you don't have. Now that I actually have the money I'm more than happy to buy the games I want. Music, however, I don't listen to enough to warrant spending any money on it :rolleyes:

Besides, the music I listen to can be hard to find :p
Kharanjul
04-07-2008, 16:11
I don't ever really download music from the Internet. Instead, I buy CDs, or even borrow CDs from friends or public libraries.

Piracy is wrong, of course; but given the state of the music industry anyway, I'm not banking on its chances of lasting far into the new century as it is currently organized.
Johnny B Goode
04-07-2008, 16:34
I'm bored... so I wonderd where on this questionnaire people fell....

POLL TITLE: MUSIC PIRACY - DO YOU EVER FEEL GUILTY?

A: yes- because i'm taking money from the band who make it - if i could i would directly pay the band for their music

B: yes- but I'm adverse to paying for music when i can get it free

C: no- It's out there free and people expect me to PAY for it? LIKE HELL!

D: no- Music should and MUST BE FREE!!!!

E: sometimes- when i think about it

F: HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU DO SOMETHING AS IMMORAL AS MUSIC PIRACRY?

ans yes i know there is a poll function... but i want reasons as well as where you stand on the issue....

E. When I can get a CD from Amazon at a cheap price, I'll usually buy. If it's an import or otherwise expensive, fire up BitTorrent.
I V Stalin
05-07-2008, 01:36
I hardly download music (illegally) at all anymore, though I used to. Partially because it's reasonably easy to find free legal downloads, partially because I can buy a lot of cds I like straight from the bands at a very reasonable price.

However, if an album I want is in HMV for £15 then I'll likely download it until I've got a substantial list of cds I want to buy - then order them from the US. Usually works out way cheaper, even taking postage into account.
Self-sacrifice
05-07-2008, 04:48
Iv been to sanity before. I had a reward voucher. I had to spend it on something at sanity.

But most of the time I just go to www.torrentpond.com to download the odd thing via bitcommet. Most of the time its just songs or stuff that I cant find on normal foxtel such as japenese anime with subs

I have some trouble seeing how downloading things via the internet is different from recording something off tv or taping the radio.

No one banned VCR's or DVD recorders. Why? Arnt they creating a copy without permission for usage later. They can also edit the recording just like a computer can.

The main difference I see is the speed and flexibility. But thats what happens to technology over time. And yes the scale has gotten bigger. But if thats the reason would this be fine if only a million people were doing it instead of a billion or so at the moment?