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As kind of a spin off about the "I have a gay agenda" thread. The original point was that of trying to impress a particular view upon your children, in that case that of gender roles. What about other things? Do you, or would you, seek to impress a certain "agenda" upon your real or hypothetical offspring?

Religion?
Political ideology?
Culture?
Bit of both?
Brand loyalty to Cadbury?
Loyalty to country, race, family?

I don't have children, but if was to have a child then I would want them to follow on from me in my field, and I like to think they would hold true to my beliefs and ideals. I probably would try to "indoctrinate" them to some degree when it comes to history, religion and culture. I wouldn't however, tell them they would suffer if they don't (i.e. no "believe this or you will go to hell-uh!") but rather educate them from a young age and instill in them some sense of respect and reverence, and a desire to follow in my footsteps.

I don't have to worry about this at all. :D

*sits back and relaxes*

Eternally hypothetical children:
I'd probably try and warp them in some way with my far-left philosophies, indoctrinate them in my religious stance by never mentioning religion, and try to teach them that numbers and logic are fun. :D
Brand loyalty would be good too. Buy Cadbury or you will go to hell-uh, kind of thing.

I certainly hope my children grow up with a healthy respect and appreciation of the wedgie and all its variants.

Buy Cadbury or you will go to hell-uh, kind of thing.

Your eternally hypothetical kids would be pretty lucky :) All mine would get would be the "Now children, the chocolate belongs to mummy, remember?!"

Your eternally hypothetical kids would be pretty lucky :) All mine would get would be the "Now children, the chocolate belongs to mummy, remember?!"

All the chocolate in the world!
*maniacal laughter*

All the chocolate in the world!
*maniacal laughter*

Hell yeah. I'm pretty protective about my chocolate supply!

:sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

My kids will be raised Jewish.

I don´t have kids and I will never ever have them. Brats disgust me. so, I don´t have to worry about indoctrination or any of that crap.

My kids will be raised Jewish.

Same.

Though personally I'm not Jewish, I just want to make them feel different.

My kids will be raised Jewish.

Mine won't!

I don't have to worry about this at all. :D

*sits back and relaxes*

Me neither.

Same.

Though personally I'm not Jewish, I just want to make them feel different.

Raise one jewish and one muslim. That'll be fun. :)

Raise one jewish and one muslim. That'll be fun. :)

Best to throw a fundamentalist Pentacostal and a Unity Bretheren in the mix just for the lulz.

Raise one jewish and one muslim. That'll be fun. :)

I think I'll call the Muslim one Ishmael and the Jewish one Mohammed.

Best to throw a fundamentalist Pentacostal and a Unity Bretheren in the mix just for the lulz.

Thanksgivings will never be boring again. :)

Honestly, I just hope my nephew doesn't grow up to be a jerk. As long as that doesn't happen everything else will fall into place.

I don´t have kids and I will never ever have them. Brats disgust me. so, I don´t have to worry about indoctrination or any of that crap.

But where will the next Nanatsu come from when your gone.:(

I will teach my kids to think for themselves, i.e., adopt the same progressive, liberal beliefs I have. Also, I will brainwash them into going into a hypnotic trance whenever they see the queen of diamonds. That should be interesting.

Being only twenty-one, I'm not exactly inclined to try to raise children anytime soon.

But the general idea for me would be to encourage tolerance as well as critical thinking, and to encourage a child of mine to educate herself on whatever her fancy was.

I would like my children to line up and salute me as I go to work each morning.

That's about it really.

Despite the many, many mistakes they made along the way, I think my parents raised me quite well with respect to the balance between teaching ideals and encouraging me to think for myself. I was not raised with religion, and I follow no particular path, though I incorporate aspects of paganism and Buddhism in my life. I will not try to make my children follow my path--if they have questions about what I'm doing (like meditating, or spell-casting, or praying) I will explain things to them, but I'll let them know that I don't have a lot of answers--only opinions and ideas. Mostly, I want to raise my children to value honesty, critical thinking and questioning, independence and compassion. I want them to value and love themselves, but also to question themselves--I want them to know that it's okay to not always have the answer, that there are times when they will hold different points of view and ideas in tension and they can live with that ambiguity.

The question is moot as I do not nor ever will have children. I barely want pets.

I really cant say, because i dont have kids...

But, id like to think i wouldnt indoctrinate them, but, i really cant guarantee it, cause ive already started to indoctrinate my little brother to some degree, he'll be a godless wreck time im through, lol...But, i would seriously try not too, its just gonna be hard cause im very opinionated....

I certainly hope my children grow up with a healthy respect and appreciation of the wedgie and all its variants.


Raise one jewish and one muslim. That'll be fun.


Best to throw a fundamentalist Pentacostal and a Unity Bretheren in the mix just for the lulz.


I think I'll call the Muslim one Ishmael and the Jewish one Mohammed.


I would like my children to line up and salute me as I go to work each morning.

That's about it really.

You are ALL evil, evil people! :p

I don´t have kids and I will never ever have them. Brats disgust me. so, I don´t have to worry about indoctrination or any of that crap.

That's the thing. I can't stand the idea of bringing up a kid from a baby onward, tooo much goo, noise, vomit. Not fun. Plus the nature of my relationship kinda makes it a non starter anyway.I do like the idea of having someone to come after me, though. So 'tis a dilemma, maybe one day I'll consider adoption of a slightly older kid...

Religion?
It has nothing to do with parenting and so it will not be discussed unless they're curious.
Political ideology?
I think every parent unknowingly shapes their kid's political beliefs.
Culture?
They'll be so funky.
Bit of both?
Bisexuality is for losers.
Brand loyalty to Cadbury?
I will teach my kids that there is more to chocolate than some international brand. And way better products, too.
Loyalty to country, race, family?
Nah, fuck that.

People take the shape of their parents. Never underestimate the power of nurture. If your tollerant and care for your kids in time they will most probably do the same. If your a bible basher your kids will most likely follow.

Whilst nature (genetics) does a bit in the end the most powerful influence the children will have in their lives by the one who raises them

"The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"

If I where to have children I wouldn't indoctrinate them into whatever I believe, I would simply let what I know and think obvious to them in a sense.

Yes, I would try to instill in my children a hatred of the LA dodgers.

You are ALL evil, evil people! :p

Don't change the subject. ;)

I, for one, will train them to hate baddies and love goodies. Happy days.

I will teach them to be fanatically loyal to me so that I can use my spawn as an army to conquer the world.

IF I have children...

Religion? I'll teach them about Christ, but not force a choice upon them.
Political ideology? Hmmm...:D Nah.
Culture? Nope.
Bit of both? Nope.
Brand loyalty to Coca-cola? YES!:p
Loyalty to country, race, family? Family? Da. Country, race? Nope.

Right now, I have zero children and zero plans to have children. If I somehow wind up with one, however...

* I would influence them to be liberal (the only sensible political stance, IMHO).
* I would encourage them to think about political/religious things they hear instead of accepting them blindly.
* I would encoruage them to be kind to all people, despite political and religious differences.

I'd also probably mess up numerous times, though... *sigh*

Right now, I have zero children and zero plans to have children. If I somehow wind up with one, however...

* I would influence them to be liberal (the only sensible political stance, IMHO).


Neoliberal or Classic Liberal?

If, by some unimaginable accident of fate, I was left in charge of a child, that child would be raised in a socially liberal-progressive, highly literate, extremely cynical environment (and wait till the rest of my family gets at the poor little tyke!). Muravyets Jr can take whatever influence he or she likes from that, as long as it is understood that there are some personal decisions mommy will never be able to respect. M.Jr can never lose M.Sr's love, but her regard is another matter. With that caveat, M.Jr will be free to go to hell in the handbasket of his or her choice.

But where will the next Nanatsu come from when your gone.:(

I'll clone myself.:D

That's the thing. I can't stand the idea of bringing up a kid from a baby onward, tooo much goo, noise, vomit. Not fun. Plus the nature of my relationship kinda makes it a non starter anyway.I do like the idea of having someone to come after me, though. So 'tis a dilemma, maybe one day I'll consider adoption of a slightly older kid...

I have considered that idea of adopting a child later on. But I also know that, deep down, I'm not mommy material so I shouldn't raise a child. (be him/her mine or adopted) Besides, the world is such a cesspool of nastiness, why bother bringing a human being to partake of this crap?

As kind of a spin off about the "I have a gay agenda" thread. The original point was that of trying to impress a particular view upon your children, in that case that of gender roles. What about other things? Do you, or would you, seek to impress a certain "agenda" upon your real or hypothetical offspring?

Religion?
Political ideology?
Culture?
Bit of both?
Brand loyalty to Cadbury?
Loyalty to country, race, family?

I don't have children, but if was to have a child then I would want them to follow on from me in my field, and I like to think they would hold true to my beliefs and ideals. I probably would try to "indoctrinate" them to some degree when it comes to history, religion and culture. I wouldn't however, tell them they would suffer if they don't (i.e. no "believe this or you will go to hell-uh!") but rather educate them from a young age and instill in them some sense of respect and reverence, and a desire to follow in my footsteps.

My political left libralism, and my superior taste in music.

My oldest son is coming along nicley, I'm a little worried about my youngst though, he listens *gasp* Akon!

I'll clone myself.:D

But... If the clone came out early, then two Nanatsu's in the universe...


IT WOULD TEAR A HOLE IN THE FABRIC OF TIME!!!!!!:eek:

...

Wait a minute, what?!?

My children will be raised:

To think for themselves, especially for political and religious beliefs, but I will drag them to Catholic Mass every Sunday until they drive themselves.

And they will be raised as New York fans. If my wife disagrees, then she can raise our daughters differently, but my sons will become fans of the New York Giants.

And if possible, they will be thrown into Latin classes during grade school.

My children will be raised:

To think for themselves, especially for political and religious beliefs, but I will drag them to Catholic Mass every Sunday until they drive themselves Crazy!

And they will be raised as New York fans. If my wife disagrees, then she can raise our daughters differently, but my sons will become fans of the New York Giants.

And if possible, they will be thrown into Latin classes during grade school.

Fixed :D Jk ;)

You can indoctrinate all you like, and your kids will still choose as they get older.

They will see your opinions, and when they get to be teenagers, will seek to differentiate themselves and their beliefs from you and yours.

My parents tried very, very hard to raise me as a "Kennedy" Democrat - they idolized the man more than any Christian idolizes Jesus - most of their friends also had starry eyes for JFK.

It backfired.

I keep this in mind myself - my children already choose as they will.

For instance, if they don't want to go to church with my wife and I, they don't have to. They can stay home with another adult, or go to another church. There's no rule at our house that says, "you must believe and you must go to church".

Because of the presentation of many ideas as a choice, kids respond well. While they may not always do what you do, they don't get a terrible lifelong attitude about "what my parents forced me to do".

Hell, if you don't want to eat what's for dinner on the table, you can have something else at our house.

You can indoctrinate all you like, and your kids will still choose as they get older.

They will see your opinions, and when they get to be teenagers, will seek to differentiate themselves and their beliefs from you and yours.

My parents tried very, very hard to raise me as a "Kennedy" Democrat - they idolized the man more than any Christian idolizes Jesus - most of their friends also had starry eyes for JFK.

It backfired.

I keep this in mind myself - my children already choose as they will.

For instance, if they don't want to go to church with my wife and I, they don't have to. They can stay home with another adult, or go to another church. There's no rule at our house that says, "you must believe and you must go to church".

Because of the presentation of many ideas as a choice, kids respond well. While they may not always do what you do, they don't get a terrible lifelong attitude about "what my parents forced me to do".

Hell, if you don't want to eat what's for dinner on the table, you can have something else at our house.

Hmm... Kind of reminds me of, well, me.

My mother is a die-hrad Paleoconservative with some Neocon tendencies. She tried to raise me as a Conservative Christian, and condemned Libertarianism at every turn. Look where I am now ;).

My kids are being indoctrinated into being Cubs fans.

My hypothetical babies will do what ever pleases them and I will support them. So long as no one gets hurt.
But I don't think I have the strength to actually do that so this situation will remain hypothetical.

But... If the clone came out early, then two Nanatsu's in the universe...


IT WOULD TEAR A HOLE IN THE FABRIC OF TIME!!!!!!:eek:

...

Wait a minute, what?!?

Amen and pass the bong!
*slaps CM on the back, rather amicably*

I have considered that idea of adopting a child later on. But I also know that, deep down, I'm not mommy material so I shouldn't raise a child. (be him/her mine or adopted) Besides, the world is such a cesspool of nastiness, why bother bringing a human being to partake of this crap?

To help reverse the trend, of course!

That's why I teach my kids to set an example for others.

To help reverse the trend, of course!

That's why I teach my kids to set an example for others.

Meh, again, I don't wish to have kids. I'm not mommy material, and I know it.

Meh, again, I don't wish to have kids. I'm not mommy material, and I know it.

Understood.

My kids are being indoctrinated into being Cubs fans.

I always knew that beneath that sweet demeanor beat a heart of ineffable cruelty. *nod*

I always knew that beneath that sweet demeanor beat a heart of ineffable cruelty. *nod*

:p Maybe they'll win the series. :D

Meh, again, I don't wish to have kids. I'm not mommy material, and I know it.Ditto. Any maternal feelings I have are directed at cats. Human offspring cause no tender feelings at all.

Ditto. Any maternal feelings I have are directed at cats. Human offspring cause no tender feelings at all.

Same here. Kitties make me go ´Squee!´. Kids, big and small make go ´Ugh!´. Motherhood is a state I´ll never aim to attain. Besides, I have tons of sonic children in what I write and play, my job and personal lives satisfy me the way they are, why have real ones? ;)

:p Maybe they'll win the series. :D

In game four of the series, with the cubs leading the series 3-0 and in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the cubs leading 17-0 is when the giant meteor will strike. :p

Ditto. Any maternal feelings I have are directed at cats. Human offspring cause no tender feelings at all.

Better than me. I react to babies with the thought "Sweet holy crap burn the abomination!".

In game four of the series, with the cubs leading the series 3-0 and in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the cubs leading 17-0 is when the giant meteor will strike. :p

:( I know.

My kids are being indoctrinated into being Cubs fans.

Good. Being fans of underdog (the whole world series thing...) teams builds character. One has to be familiar with the sting of defeat to really appreciate victory.

Even though I'm glad my favorite college football team (the California Golden Bears) has been doing well lately, I almost hope that they suck again when I'm raising my kids. Being the fan of a team that often doesn't live up to your hopes teaches the fact that life doesn't always go the way you want it to pretty well, IMO.

In game four of the series, with the cubs leading the series 3-0 and in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the cubs leading 17-0 is when the giant meteor will strike. :p

No, with Smunkee's luck, the Rapture will take place, the Cubs will be "taken up" and she'll be "Left Behind" to contemplate what might have been...