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Interesting video on the Eurocrats and how Europeans are trading away their democracy for a elite European government that is, in my opinion, just a bit shady and sucking up money like it's going out of style.

What do you think about the EU's government. Are you ok with the way things are going or do you have a problem with it?

What do you think about this video?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PmoiXnwLGYA

This video brought it to my attention that these MEP's make more money than German chancellor, yet don't do even half of the work she does. In fact, they don't really do much at all yet get paid more than enough for it....

Curious, don't you think?

It seems highly unfair that these MEPs can get away with doing no work and yet still claim their pay, personally i think some sort of system where MEPs are made to account for what they are/are not doing would help alot to solve the problems raised by the video.

P.S im new here, sorry if this isn't up to usual standards:)

To be fair, this video is posted by the UKIP A fervent anti-EU party. Very one sided. As for what's in the video, I take it all with a pinch of salt. In the British House of Commons very few MPs attend the debates either. They get a massive amount of expenses worth more than their salaries and bar every effort to get more transparency over what they spend their money on.

All in all, it looks like European politicians are little better than their national counterparts. But I won't begrudge them that. Indeed, I find it quite confusing that MEP's are being attacked in this way. We really ought to be doing all we can to make sure the elected element of the EU actually grows in stature and power. Perhaps once it actually gets some teeth and democracy plays a greater role in European affairs, we'll see better men and women enter the European parliament.

It seems highly unfair that these MEPs can get away with doing no work and yet still claim their pay, personally i think some sort of system where MEPs are made to account for what they are/are not doing would help alot to solve the problems raised by the video.

P.S im new here, sorry if this isn't up to usual standards:)

Your first post is reasoned, correctly spelt with good grammar, doesn't contain large numbers of profanities, gun/up yours/etc smileys. Better than 90% of people's first posts.

your using UKIP submitted videos as a balanced view of the E.U :confused:

they are paid well because thats the pretty standard pay for work in international organizations and it keeps the corruption out with the experts in

Don't care. That's Europe's problem, we have enough issues with politicians that don't do squat and waste money like it's going out of style tomorrow. It's called Congress. If I lived in Europe it would tick me off but in all honesty, name a politician that isn't overpaid to do essentially nothing.

your using UKIP submitted videos as a balanced view of the E.U :confused:
Just because the UKIP submitted the video doesn't mean it didn't happen. I don't understand this attitue...people have it if one posts a FOX news article. Just because it may have their personal biases (and I'm sure it does), doesn't mean that the news in question didn't happen.......there is a difference between a bias and a fabrication and many annoying people on NSG would do well to learn that.
they are paid well because thats the pretty standard pay for work in international organizations and it keeps the corruption out with the experts in
The corruption out? Did you even watch the video???

Firstly, I'm an anti-EU (and anti-Federalist) Yankee. Take what I say as coming from that perspective.

The EU is a largely corrupt body, even worse than the US Congress. The EU is detrimental to national sovereignty, and seeks to homogenize Europe to the point that France and Germany are no more different than Iowa and Kansas.

This comes as no surprise to me. Freedom of the Press is only honored for those who support the current regime. Here in the US, those critical of the current administration often face open hostility from the police and are charged with trespass on public property.

We really ought to be doing all we can to make sure the elected element of the EU actually grows in stature and power. Perhaps once it actually gets some teeth and democracy plays a greater role in European affairs, we'll see better men and women enter the European parliament.

Lastly, honesty is enforced by inquiry. Never trust a politician until he has shown himself trustworthy. Clearly, there is enough corruption to make the video in the OP at least partly accurate. The only way to curb the rampant greed and corruption in government is to keep a very close eye on everything they do. America has fallen to what it is because we trusted the politicians to do what was best for us and we stopped watching. Now we have a struggle ahead of us. You in Europe face equal challenges. Be ever vigilant.

people more over paid then the president of the untied states.


And perhaps the only organization in the world more wasteful of money then the UN.

'they are paid well because thats the pretty standard pay for work in international organizations and it keeps the corruption out with the experts in'

I think the point of the video was that they were not actually doing any wprk, if being paid alot for no work is the standard for international organisations, i think they need to rethink their pay structures.

P.S Forsakia thanks for the kind words

in all honesty, name a politician that isn't overpaid to do essentially nothing.

what about those crazy hut nations where politicians are so corrupt due to low pay that organized crime runs everything :p

there is a difference between a bias and a fabrication and many annoying people on NSG would do well to learn that.

its a good thing UKIP has a history of pulling things out of its arse then :)

The corruption out? Did you even watch the video???

yes and I can only imagine how the Italian vote would change if politicians started on the business of "donations"

The EU is a largely corrupt body, even worse than the US Congress. The EU is detrimental to national sovereignty, and seeks to homogenize Europe to the point that France and Germany are no more different than Iowa and Kansas.

1) scandals from the EU are few and far between so how don't see where this "largely corrupt" is coming from

2) surely you mean the E.U intends to make France and Germany like Canada and Quebec (though the E.U is not really responsible for this movement as much as French and German attitudes are)

I think the point of the video was that they were not actually doing any wprk, if being paid alot for no work is the standard for international organisations, i think they need to rethink their pay structures.

they miss work because there is nothing for them to be doing would you rather they went about passing every law they can think of?

It's both corrupt and transparent.

Aye, there's a lot of money in being an MEP. But at least they'll tell you how much.

Of all the things to worry about, this ranks just below "random piano falling on my head" and just above "being savaged by a badger".

what about those crazy hut nations where politicians are so corrupt due to low pay that organized crime runs everything :p


You mean like the USA where special interest seems to run everything because the politicians that are over-paid are taking handouts left and right from them? Politicians are corrupt, that's what they do. The trick is to keep them from having too much power. The trick is to keep the power in the hands of the people. The more power you give to an individual, the more corrupt he can and most likely will become. That's human nature. Take the power out of the hands of the Feds and this problem subsides. That's something the founders of this nation understood, hence the checks and balances out the yen yang, yet we still have corruption. Remember.. Government under the best of circumstances is a necessary evil. Under the worst it's tyranny. I believe that was TJ, though I could be wrong.

'they miss work because there is nothing for them to be doing would you rather they went about passing every law they can think of?' Call To Power

Very good point, i'd be quite happy to pay them to do nothing rather than pass a new set of stupid laws.

Of all the things to worry about, this ranks just below "random piano falling on my head" and just above "being savaged by a badger".

you have clearly never hit one of those beasts with your car...they are like 100% muscle

You mean like the USA where special interest seems to run everything because the politicians that are over-paid are taking handouts left and right from them? Politicians are corrupt, that's what they do.

don't blame me you vote for them

Take the power out of the hands of the Feds and this problem subsides.

ah yes I'm sure if we give all this power to your Southern states they won't be lynching homosexuals by the end of the week :rolleyes:

Very good point, i'd be quite happy to pay them to do nothing rather than pass a new set of stupid laws.

being an MEP is a dream job

Interesting video on the Eurocrats and how Europeans are trading away their democracy for a elite European government that is, in my opinion, just a bit shady and sucking up money like it's going out of style.

What do you think about the EU's government. Are you ok with the way things are going or do you have a problem with it?

What do you think about this video?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PmoiXnwLGYA

This video brought it to my attention that these MEP's make more money than German chancellor, yet don't do even half of the work she does. In fact, they don't really do much at all yet get paid more than enough for it....

Curious, don't you think?

I think the poll is a bit insincere... Do I agree with the video? No. Do I agree with the EU? Yes.
So which vote would that be??

I think the poll is a bit insincere... Do I agree with the video? No. Do I agree with the EU? Yes.
So which vote would that be??
Cool. Then you, and everyone else who likes these parasites, can pay for them out of your own pockets.

I think the poll is a bit insincere...
:eek:

You get what you vote for.

Interesting video on the Eurocrats and how Europeans are trading away their democracy for a elite European government that is, in my opinion, just a bit shady and sucking up money like it's going out of style.:rolleyes:
What do you think about the EU's government. Are you ok with the way things are going or do you have a problem with it?Unfortunately, there's too little transparency. More transparency and responsibility (or power) are necessary, especially where the parliament is concerned.
What do you think about this video?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PmoiXnwLGYAUm, this happens everywhere. Another good example is Carl-Eduard von Bismarck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl-Eduard_von_Bismarck), a former member of the German Bundestag that hardly ever showed up, but let himself get paid for it.
I don't know whether the EU Parliament has a bigger problem with this than national parliaments, but either way, it should be stopped.
This video brought it to my attention that these MEP's make more money than German chancellor, yet don't do even half of the work she does. In fact, they don't really do much at all yet get paid more than enough for it....Did you fact check the statements? RTL ain't exactly known for its accuracy, and outrageous things get more attention (and thereby ratings) than other things.

Curious, don't you think?If they'd stuck around until evening, maybe this is what they would have filmed. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gnncRh8q_VM) :D

I think the poll is a bit insincere... Do I agree with the video? No. Do I agree with the EU? Yes.
So which vote would that be??No, the poll isn't asking about the EU, just the one part of the parliamentarians shown in the video.

Just because the UKIP submitted the video doesn't mean it didn't happen. I don't understand this attitue...people have it if one posts a FOX news article. Just because it may have their personal biases (and I'm sure it does), doesn't mean that the news in question didn't happen.......

Like the time when Fox news claimed Obama was a Muslim who went to a Madrassa where extremists were trained hmmm? Who then pretend they never said it when the truth came out?

Bias does include lying, which Fox has done. Don't try to pretend they don't.