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Lou Dobbs: Bush Should Be Impeached for Salmonella Outbreak
CNN host says leadership in 'sorry condition' and inability to 'protect the American consumer' is 'sufficient reason to impeach a president.'

By Jeff Poor
6/20/2008 12:47:50 PM

CNN’s Lou Dobbs has been on a tear about the recent tainted-tomato salmonella outbreak, but this time he’s taken it a step further and is calling for the ultimate political punishment.

The “Lou Dobbs Tonight” host placed the blame for the recent salmonella outbreak squarely on President George W. Bush, calling for his impeachment on the June 19 broadcast. Contaminated tomatoes from an unknown source or sources have sickened 383 people since April, according to the Associated Press.

“You know, I have heard a lot of reasons over the years as to why George W. Bush should be impeached,” Dobbs said. “For them to leave the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in this state, its leadership in this sorry condition and to have no capacity apparently or will to protect the American consumer – that is alone to me sufficient reason to impeach a president who has made this agency possible and has ripped its guts out in its ability to protect the American consumer.”

“It’s insane what’s going on here,” said a visibly angry Dobbs. “Is there any sense of embarrassment on the part of the leadership of that agency?”

On June 18, Dobbs called the FDA “excessively intellectually challenged.” The night before he called the FDA “moronic.”

“The FDA, led by complete moronic, unengaged incompetents,” Dobbs said on his June 17 broadcast. “The idea that they would sit there and say that they’re not going to reveal where a cluster of this outbreak occurred, this is arrogant beyond belief. Who in the world do these idiots think they are? Who do they think they’re working for?”

He also implicated Bush in that tirade: “As for this administration, were a responsible president at the helm of this country, I would wonder why he is not taking action, but then again, this is of course his FDA and his legacy.”

LOL

Now I do think Bush has done a heap of impeachable stuff, but this is just plain stupid. I used to like Lou, but over the last couple years he's lost it....

What do ya'll say out there in NSG wonderland?

All the horrible, horrible things that Dubya's done, yet he wants to impeach him over a salmonella outbreak?

That'd be like trying to impeach Nixon over a parking ticket and not even mentioning Watergate.

Exactly....

All the horrible, horrible things that Dubya's done, yet he wants to impeach him over a salmonella outbreak?

That'd be like trying to impeach Nixon over a parking ticket and not even mentioning Watergate.

Why does anyone bother listening to Lou Dobbs anymore?

All the horrible, horrible things that Dubya's done, yet he wants to impeach him over a salmonella outbreak?

That'd be like trying to impeach Nixon over a parking ticket and not even mentioning Watergate.
Yeah. Bush's support for CHEERS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHEERS) strikes me as a bit more callous than this.

Yeah. Bush's support for CHEERS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHEERS) strikes me as a bit more callous than this.
Och, they got free t-shirts, shut yer cakehole :p

Och, they got free t-shirts, shut yer cakehole :pAnd a camcorder! If that ain't sufficient compensation for the health of your child, nothing is! :p

And a camcorder! If that ain't sufficient compensation for the health of your child, nothing is! :p
Heh and they also got about 750 euros for poisoning their child for two years - they had the sweet life, man!

(or at last until it was cancelled)

Well I've always been in favour of a good Bush-Bashing, and have made no attempt at hiding my contempt for the man and willingness to blame him and his cronies for damn near everything, but THIS I cannot blame him for. The FDA, sure. But otherwise I just have to say "Shit happens."

Well I've always been in favour of a good Bush-Bashing, and have made no attempt at hiding my contempt for the man and willingness to blame him and his cronies for damn near everything, but THIS I cannot blame him for. The FDA, sure. But otherwise I just have to say "Shit happens."Bush has been staffing the organizations that should be looking out for consumer interest with people looking out for business interest. So, yeah, the incompetence of the FDA is pretty much his fault.

Bush has been staffing the organizations that should be looking out for consumer interest with people looking out for business interest. So, yeah, the incompetence of the FDA is pretty much his fault.

Good point. I stand corrected!

Thank you! I can now have another thing to pin on him and further my Bush Bashing Crusade! You've added fuel to the fire my friend! :D

Well I've always been in favour of a good Bush-Bashing, and have made no attempt at hiding my contempt for the man and willingness to blame him and his cronies for damn near everything, but THIS I cannot blame him for. The FDA, sure. But otherwise I just have to say "Shit happens."

Not this, because of...

Bush has been staffing the organizations that should be looking out for consumer interest with people looking out for business interest. So, yeah, the incompetence of the FDA is pretty much his fault.

...this.

Using the "staffed with cronies and incompetent yes-men" argument could also explain FEMA and Michael "Heckuva Job" Brown.

EDIT: I acknowledge your retraction, Wunderjar.

i guess its the straw that broke the camel's back (or lou dobb's brain).

so many things have gone wrong due to bush's bad policies that one outbreak of bad tomatos that the fda is too incompetent to track down in a reasonable amount of time did lou in.

The LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

What do ya'll say out there in NSG wonderland?

I am unfamiliar with Mr Dobbs, but think that Oxycontin is a modern curse on society.

Bush is a fking salmonella outbreak.

Don't think there will be impeachmets but I think Bush will end up in jail after his presidency is over. There will be a big debate about possible war crimes which could go either way, but he is going down for his involvment in selective prosecution. (most notibly for the prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Seigelman)

Bush is a fking salmonella outbreak.
1) Eh he's not a good guy, etc., but describing him as a salmonella outbreak is just factually incorrect.
2) You can swear on the internet, it's not like your mum is going to read it.

1) Eh he's not a good guy, etc., but describing him as a salmonella outbreak is just factually incorrect.
Well he does give me the runs each time he gives a speech.

2) You can swear on the internet, it's not like your mum is going to read it.

Was only one of my level-1 words. I save the level-3s for when someone talks about what a wonderful humanitarian and honest person Bush is. :D

Well Lou is right to lay the incompetence of the FDA squarely in the President's lap, but if we were going to impeach Presidents for appointing incompetent sycophantic toadies into critical positions for which they have no ability to manage, that would have been done about six months after FEMA's crackerjack efforts in post-Katrina New Orleans.

Or when the CIA said it was a 'slam dunk' that there were WMDs in Iraq. :p

LOL

Now I do think Bush has done a heap of impeachable stuff, but this is just plain stupid. I used to like Lou, but over the last couple years he's lost it....

What do ya'll say out there in NSG wonderland?

And people wonder why I watch FOX instead of CNN> :rolleyes:

I picked the last option because Bush deserves impeachment, but not for the Salmonella outbreak. Lou Dobbs should be laughed off the air because every night his program is about the same damn issue and it's so frigging tiresome.

And people wonder why I watch FOX instead of CNN> :rolleyes:

To hear stupid stuff from the other side of the spectrum?

And people wonder why I watch FOX instead of CNN> :rolleyes:
Because you like your news to be more like a comedy programme than on CNN?

And people wonder why I watch FOX instead of CNN> :rolleyes:Why you prefer FOX is painfully obvious.

Why you prefer FOX is painfully obvious.

Fair and balanced is always obvious and sometimes painful. ;)

Fair and balanced is always obvious and sometimes painful. ;)

So are 275lb rugby players. *nod*

So are 275lb rugby players. *nod*

Very true. :)

And people wonder why I watch FOX instead of CNN> :rolleyes:

Considering that there are even more insane things uttered EVERY SINGLE DAY from FOX, I do wonder why.

Me, I watch BBC. Because I'm a traitor or something. (I was actually told that by another DEPer. I took her seriously for a moment before I realized she was kidding. :D)

As for Lou Dobbs, he's a little nutty, but somehow I suspect he was trying to parody the various impeachment calls with this, to try and say they were ridiculous. Why he would do that I don't know--I could've sworn Lou Dobbs hated the Bush administration--but it seems more likely to me than him seriously believing that a simple food issue that wouldn't have even been considered a problem ten years ago is worth impeachment.

Bush is a fking salmonella outbreak.

Don't think there will be impeachmets but I think Bush will end up in jail after his presidency is over. There will be a big debate about possible war crimes which could go either way, but he is going down for his involvment in selective prosecution. (most notibly for the prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Seigelman)

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Read what happened which pretty much invalidated most of this post. Stupid facts.

[/LEFT]I like pretty much anything that has to do Impeaching Bush.
The best reason would be him asking for the national draft to open so he can have more soldiers in Iraq. :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:

All the horrible, horrible things that Dubya's done, yet he wants to impeach him over a salmonella outbreak?

That'd be like trying to impeach Nixon over a parking ticket and not even mentioning Watergate.

They only got Al Capone on tax evasion after all. Sometimes you go after what you (however wrongly) think you can get.

Lou Dobbs is pathetic. And yeh, you want to impeach over this? What about Hurricane Katrina? Or, if we want more than simple incompitance, how about possible electoral fraud(2ooo and 2004), war crimes(to many to list), shreading the Constitution(again, too many to list), or treason(leaking a CIA agent's identity)? Those not good enough for you, moron?

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Read what happened which pretty much invalidated most of this post. Stupid facts.

I read this:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/How_Bush_US_attorney_riddled_with_0401.html

What part did you snip and miss?


The conflict was a major factor in then-Democratic Lieut. Gov. Don Siegelman’s election as governor in 1998. Almost as soon as Siegelman took office, however, Pryor initiated a series of corruption investigations against him. After the Bush administration took office in 2001, these state probes were elevated to the federal level at the hands of US Attorney Leura Canary. As reported in The Permanent Republican Majority – Part Three, Rove and Canary also helped promote the Siegelman investigations.

In neighboring Mississippi, meanwhile, the tobacco suit had produced several extremely wealthy trial lawyers, who became major funders of the local Democratic Party.

In 2003, a Bush-appointed US Attorney, Dunnica Lampton (above right), brought federal charges against one of those lawyers, plaintiff’s attorney Paul Minor, alleging that he had bribed a Mississippi Supreme Court Justice, Judge Oliver E. Diaz, Jr.

Just as in the case of Governor Don Siegelman in Alabama, when the first trial of Diaz failed to produce the desired result of removing him from his elected seat in 2005, fresh charges were brought almost immediately.

lol.

All the horrible, horrible things that Dubya's done, yet he wants to impeach him over a salmonella outbreak?

That'd be like trying to impeach Nixon over a parking ticket and not even mentioning Watergate.
This.

Lou Dobbs is sadly deranged and I'm honestly surprised that he is taken seriously enough to have his own show. Not that I'm defending Bush on this or any other issue, but this is yet another example of how absurd dobbs is. The man can speak well, but his ideas are motivated purely by a sense of moral indignation at whatever offends his "traditionalist" American sentiments. He's even worse than Bill O'Reiley. Both men are reasons I try to avoid cable news.

Well said. His success his based on anti-immigrant fear mongering and CNN's desire to cater to Fox New's audience demographic. I simply can't see why else he would have succeeded.

Though supposedly he is pro space travel, and helped found Space.com(excellent site). This goes a small way towards redeeming him in my eyes.

Fair and balanced is always obvious and sometimes painful. ;)As far as I know, all you have access to is American infotainment channels. Not a single fair and balanced one among the lot, FOX being the least worthy of the title.

Bush is a fking salmonella outbreak.
(most notibly for the prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Seigelman)

You know the investigation was started in 1999 when Clinton was president.
Both Democrats and Republicans in federal office wanted him gone because he was a corrupt governor.

Not to be out-done in the 'foolish shenanigans' department, Move-On.org(the name of which organization I find to be somewhat ironic) has called for impeaching the President on the grounds of 'it's raining and we wanted to get suntans today.'

More on this story as it develops...