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Wow! Sure took a long time for NOAA to figure this one out. Al Gore told us about this in his film and the rock band Testament told us about it 19 years ago in their song "Greenhouse Effect"

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080619_climatereport.html

"Among the major findings reported in this assessment are that droughts, heavy downpours, excessive heat, and intense hurricanes are likely to become more commonplace as humans continue to increase the atmospheric concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases."

A look at extreme weather events of 2007:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2007/ann/significant-extremes2007.gif
(click the map to enlarge then scroll with side and bottom directional bars)

A basic explination of the greenhoue effect:
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7h.html

We have 2 choices. Fix it which is complicated and expensive or ignore it which is more compicated and expensive!

Or we can study it, acknowledge it and adapt to it with the foresight that foreknowledge brings.

Which is pretty cheap if stretched out over the time frame we're talking, but far too rational to be seriously considered.

I just hope it rains mud! :)

In other news, it has recently come to light that all computers will experience a serious error on 1/1/00, as their internal calenders stop at 31/12/99.

Extreme weather is a great money making opportunity. I hope that weather becomes increasingly extreme.

Also, resulting food shortages will reduce population pressures, which in itself is a carbon negative outcome. Therefore the problem is self correcting. (If, indeed, it is as bad as people say).

Really though, oil crisis, extreme weather, credit crunch... man, this is shaping up to be an awesome year.

Extreme weather is a great money making opportunity. I hope that weather becomes increasingly extreme.

Well.. no real money in droughts.

Well.. no real money in droughts.

Au contraire mon frere. There are huge pots of cash in droughts. Or indeed anything that creates a food shortage.

it's all of the evaporating mountain dew that's causing it

Which is pretty cheap if stretched out over the time frame we're talking, but far too rational to be seriously considered.


Sorry LG but I missed which ones were the cheap ones on the map link. ;)

Or we can study it, acknowledge it and adapt to it with the foresight that foreknowledge brings.

LOL Thats hilarious, man LG don't you ever quit?

Wow! Sure took a long time for NOAA to figure this one out. Al Gore told us about this in his film and the rock band Testament told us about it 19 years ago in their song "Greenhouse Effect"

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080619_climatereport.html

"Among the major findings reported in this assessment are that droughts, heavy downpours, excessive heat, and intense hurricanes are likely to become more commonplace as humans continue to increase the atmospheric concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases."

A look at extreme weather events of 2007:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2007/ann/significant-extremes2007.gif
(click the map to enlarge then scroll with side and bottom directional bars)

A basic explination of the greenhoue effect:
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7h.html

We have 2 choices. Fix it which is complicated and expensive or ignore it which is more compicated and expensive!

And they also say that Hurricanes will become more numerous. Last year, they predicted an above average year. We had an average year last year and they are forcasting a near normal season this year and a below normal Eastern Pacific Season this year.

LOL Thats hilarious, man LG don't you ever quit?

Nope. :)

Extreme weather is a great money making opportunity. I hope that weather becomes increasingly extreme.

You want to buy some carbon credits? I have a ton of em for sale. Cheap too. ;)

Also, resulting food shortages will reduce population pressures, which in itself is a carbon negative outcome. Therefore the problem is self correcting. (If, indeed, it is as bad as people say).



Bingo!

eXtreme?

I say we market it.:)

Corny's getting married? Yay!

eXtreme?

I say we market it.:)

I'm pretty sure the letter "X" has been marketed out.

Anyway, I'm not so certain there is really going to be that much more extreme weather, I mean, its not like theres been that many extreme events recently.

Corny's getting married? Yay!

In 42 days :)

In 2004 , the hurricane season was above average, 2005 it was way above average, for 2006 it was predicted to be horrendous.......... except it was below average, the same as 2007.

There is a study that shows that as the temp goes up you get fewer storms, but the ones that form tend to be bigger.

work that one out

In other news. global temperatures in the northern hemisphere are due to plunge over the next 6 months before rising again after that ;)

Really almost impossible to predict how many hurricanes. But once a hurricane has formed, very easy to predict how strong it will get. Warmer waters make them stronger, wind sheers weaken them.

Really almost impossible to predict how many hurricanes.

Actually...they have been pretty accurate with predictions on how many named storms, how many hurricanes, and how many of them will be of the severe kind.

But once a hurricane has formed, very easy to predict how strong it will get. Warmer waters make them stronger, wind sheers weaken them.

Very good. You passed meteorology 101.

and the rock band Testament told us about it 19 years ago in their song "Greenhouse Effect"


Because rock songs are always reliable sources of information! *nods*

Actually...they have been pretty accurate with predictions on how many named storms, how many hurricanes, and how many of them will be of the severe kind.
No they havn't. They have been way off recently.

No they havn't. They have been way off recently.

Yeah last year they predicted some ten to fifteen hurricanes. I recall very vividly reading the report and thinking to myself, "Oh hell, I live in Florida. Great..."

This year they've predicted another ten hurricanes but who knows? We'll find out soon enough eh?

No they havn't. They have been way off recently.

Actually...they did say that last year was going to be slightly above average and it was just below it so thatis pretty good. In 2006, they predicted an above average year and was just slightly above it. That's pretty good.

So yea....

I like hurricanes too. They are also very good.

Frankly, things have been far too lax around here lately, and this is exactly the kind of thing that american society needs.

I like hurricanes too. They are also very good.

Frankly, things have been far too lax around here lately, and this is exactly the kind of thing that american society needs.

Dude don't bloody jinx it. One more bad hurricane and this area of Florida is gone

Dude don't bloody jinx it. One more bad hurricane and this area of Florida is gone

Don't live there then. Or build a hurricane proof house.

Don't live there then. Or build a hurricane proof house.

Heh because thats so easy to do eh? Most of the buildings in Florida aren't new (Well they are NOW because the 2004 hurricanes destroyed alot of them) but rather were built in the 60s and 70s, before truly effective hurricane proofing.

And as for the "Don't live there" comment. I'm choosing to ignore that.

We're all going to die in 2012 anyway.

Because rock songs are always reliable sources of information! *nods*

Especially when they refer to the greenhouse effect. (a science that was first concidered way back in the 1820s by French scientist Joseph Fourier.)

Especially when they refer to the greenhouse effect. (a science that was first concidered way back in the 1820s by French scientist Joseph Fourier.)

Oh I'm not disputing the fact. I'm kidding about him saying it was brought up by a rock band. ;)

Oh I'm not disputing the fact. I'm kidding about him saying it was brought up by a rock band. ;)

I know. It's just haunting how the lyrics were so correct.

Fools the ones who stray, the rain forest burns away
Know what you believe, this is the air we breathe
So the world we know is dying slow in South America
Flames are burning down, all the trees to the ground

Time is running low, we can't stay no more
Wealth these people see, fight for eternity
Lies they televise paid by their goverment
There on! It's lingers on
And they don't even care in they...

Seal the Planet's fate
Crimes they perpetrate
Wasting precious land
It's time to take a stand

Our only hope to breathe again
To stop the madness closing in
What will we do when all is lost
Environmental holocaust.......repeat

Foes these people go, someone destroyed their home
Plagued with disease, left praying on their knees
Laws protect the land, social justice in demand
Smoke it fills the air into the atmosphere
Now it's time to see a cycle of a tragedy
On! It lingers on, and they don't even care if they

Seal the Planet's fate
Crimes they perpetrate
Wasting precious land
It's time to take a stand

Our only hope to breathe again
To stop the madness closing in
What will we do when all is lost
Environmental holocaust.......repeat
GREENHOUSE EFFECT-Testament (1989)

In 42 days :)
Congratulations. :) *bows*
BTW, mention my name sometime, in context or not, on wedding night.
Or yell it. ;)

We're all going to die in 2012 anyway.Or ascend. Or descend.

Congratulations. :) *bows*
BTW, mention my name sometime, in context or not, on wedding night.
Or yell it. ;)
I bet he won't mention mine!

I bet he won't mention mine!If he splits it into syllables, he might. In association with movement or something. :)

Even with the relief of La Nina, everything is still out of whack this year. We still don't have the consistant rains in moderation like we used to. Just drought and floods! :mad:

Some "so far this year" info (http://www.noaawatch.gov/floods.php)