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Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

Mostly we respect each others beliefs and don't let it get in the way of our relationships. We also tend to have some interesting discussions on the subject.

Talk about something not religion oriented... not that hard...

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

You make yourself available if they ever want to talk or have any questions, and leave the rest up to them.

I avoid religion as a topic of conversation with family and friends, unless the individual(s) in question is the sort who goes for an open exchange of ideas without involving emotional baggage.

Be proud of your diverse family.
Relatives with different religions are the new Black friends.

Same thing you do with anyone else. Don't bring it up if it'll start a fight.

Kill them. Free food FTW.

I don't have a religion to share, so nothing.

I am atheist. My family is jewish. Many of my friends are christian.

But guess what? My family and friends are fairly borderline. They know that the bible is false, they know that the church is far from perfect, and they know that it's okay to be friends with someone from a different religion.

If I genuinely believed that any member of my family was going to a hell for an eternity, I would do all in my power to try and convert them. Luckily I'm not religious, so I don't have that problem.

I don't even know what kind of faith any of my family members (except my brother and mother) subscribe to, as I don't really care enough to ask. My mother and brother are both atheists, or skeptic agnostic at the least, so we don't really have any conflicts over it.

I voted "ridicule them," but, y'know, not specifically because of their religious views. Just on principle. Gentle mocking is good for everyone.

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

I'd throw them a party because I'd be going to hell as well and I might as well go out with a bang! :) Seriously, they ought to just respect your beliefs. But the same goes for you. It's a two way street.

I love religious discussions, and I don't shy away from them, but I don't actively try to convert anyone. When people have questions about my faith, I answer them. When I have questions about someone else's, I ask them. It works out well.

Also, I have regular sex with an atheist - my husband. =)

I avoid religion as a topic of conversation with family and friends, unless the individual(s) in question is the sort who goes for an open exchange of ideas without involving emotional baggage.
Agreed ... and add to that THEY bring it up first

Most of my friends and family are some kind of religious... in fact, I only have one close friend that's an Atheist. So... it depends. I'm happy to discuss religion, but I've never tried to convert anyone... and, apart from my inlaws, most people seem to respect that, and act the same.

I often refer on here to a sister who tried her best to convert me to Evangelical Christianity when I became Mormon. She, along with her 'preacher' husband engaged me in debates both in person and by mail.

I can't say what exactly they thought of me personally, especially her husband (who is now her ex). I held no unkind thoughts toward them for it, although I did take issue with the certain smugness with which they 'listened to my points' (read: humored me while they looked for weakness.)

Meh. I'd get a warm fuzzy from it if I felt like they did it out of sincere concern for my soul. As it is, I think it was motivated more by a desire for self-validation.

Most of the rest of my Family is Catholic, and we have a live and let live policy between us. I have been known to offer gifts of a Book of Mormon from time to time but not as an effort to convert, but rather to make it available should they have questions or choose to read it on their own.

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

I don't talk to much of my family any more, but for different reasons.
The only people I know who are religious are my grandparents, and I just let them be. They don't really make much sense in any other respect any more, so why bother?

I have been known to offer gifts of a Book of Mormon from time to time but not as an effort to convert, but rather to make it available should they have questions or choose to read it on their own.

Heh, good luck with that. I can't even get most of my friends to borrow it...

Heh, good luck with that. I can't even get most of my friends to borrow it...

I figure they usually end up at the bottom of a crate in a basement or forgotten in an end table storage but meh. I put it out there.

I try to convert them when the opportunity arises, but I don't hassle them all day about it.

I forced myself to read through the whole thing once. Yeeeargh!

You know... hang out, have good times, play sports... ocassionally toss in a dead baby joke for the hell of it XP

I have lots of religious friends, but you'd never know it by listening to them or looking at them, which is what makes them awesome, and when religion does rarely come up, it's the subject of friendly joking.

When family tries to talk to me about religion, I listen politely, but in that way that they know I'm only being polite and not really interested. I've gone to church with them before, but they've never actively tried to convert me. I honestly don't think they care all that much. They know I'm a good person, and that's about all that matters.

Not every religious person has a self-righteous rod shoved up their ass.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?Pray for them, and live my life according to my beliefs.

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

Leave them alone. If they're adults, they know their own minds. If they're kids, why unduly influence them, especially if they're not your own kids?

I figure they usually end up at the bottom of a crate in a basement or forgotten in an end table storage but meh. I put it out there.

*Shrug* Different strokes for different folks. I'd never consider giving a Bible as a gift to someone I was not certain would welcome the gift.

I try to convert them when the opportunity arises, but I don't hassle them all day about it.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd be irritated by someone trying to convert me, no matter how sincerely it was meant. If someone doesn't ask, I assume they are not interested and I don't impose on them.

We put them in the wicker man.

I make a few cracks every now and again (I know someone raised catholic which always gives me something to do) but I'd rather not convert them and keep the belief that I am right :)

I have regular sex with an atheist - my husband. =)

is it true what they say about atheists in the bedroom?

I have been known to offer gifts of a Book of Mormon from time to time but not as an effort to convert, but rather to make it available should they have questions or choose to read it on their own.

thats like the worst birthday present ever

Generally id let them be...except when they go all 'Bible Nut' on me...

Of course, since the majority of my family and close friends are involved with some form of Christianity so, Im really the one who doesnt share everyone's religion, lol...

I tend to let them be until they orgasm because they ¨feel the calling¨ to save me. When that happens, I lash out and become implacable. I mean, worship your Left Big Toe for all I care, just don´t cross my personal space with your beliefs.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd be irritated by someone trying to convert me, no matter how sincerely it was meant. If someone doesn't ask, I assume they are not interested and I don't impose on them.
I'd prefer to see my grandparents with me in heaven. *Gives Kat cold look that just screams "You monster":p*

your thinking about sex aren't you? :p

Nope, and get thy mind out of the gutter.:)

I tend to let them be until they orgasm because they ¨feel the calling¨ to save me. When that happens, I lash out and become implacable. I mean, worship your Left Big Toe for all I care, just don´t cross my personal space with your beliefs.

your thinking about sex aren't you? :p

We pretty much don't talk about religion. The religion nuts assume the others are religious, and the non-religious in my family are happy to ignore the issue. Conservative vs. Liberal is more of a contentious issue, but the debates are mostly good-natured.

Sorry, no schisms here.

More like the detente during the Cold War, so to speak.

Pretty much ignore it. When I have questions about Buddhism, I'll ask my wife, when she has questions about Christianity, she'll ask me, Otherwise I don't force her to go to church, she doesn't force me to worship at a temple (Visiting the above for historical interest is ok though), and we've both agreed that excepting certain cultural practices, we're taking a strict hands off approach to our son.

The only religious thing I do with him is sing hymns to him because they're usually slow and sung deep so it sends him right to sleep.

I usually make short little quips that make them think from time to time, but I don't make an active effort to convert any of them to agnosticism. When they bring the issue up, I'm usually happy to talk about it for a little while, but once the conversation drags on for more than half an hour or continues over multiple days, my attitude changes from "this is what I believe" to "this is why you're wrong". A part of me enjoys watching them realize they've lost all their logical arguments and have to fall back on faith alone.

After we separated my wife rediscovered her faith, and is now regularly bringing my daughter to church. I have to admit I was a little unnerved at first; I had no idea until we (my daughter and I) were out for ice cream and she pointed across the street and said "that's my church, Daddy!"

I can't make an issue of it, in no small part because she's four and the last thing she needs is any hint of conflict between her parents. As she grows up (assuming this isn't just a passing phase of my ex's) she'll get a quietly secular example from me. She's a smart kid, she'll figure out what's right for her in the end.

I don't discuss my beliefs with anyone...anyone who wants to discuss their beliefs with me is welcome to do so, but I warn them ahead of time that it won't change my mind on the subject.

Depends on the family member.

You see, no one in my family actually know's what my religion is. They don't care to ask, and if they're not going to ask why should I care to just up and tell? Those who ask, friends, family, and strangers alike, I'llo tell pretty openly. But don't ask, not going to know.

Unless, and this is the excption, they're an idiot and trying to back me into something. Now I hate to say that and go onto a small story about my paternal grandmother, but oh well. She, my paternal grandmother, is Anglican, that whole side of my family is (My other side is Catholic, what fun!). And back one christmas I let myself get talked into going there, and my grandmother decided to announce some girl who was like 15 at the time, and apparently my cousin, had just undergone confirmation. And then she looks at me, I was like 20. She starts asking questions intending to back me into a corner, if I'd undergone confirmation (And she knew I'd pretty much been raised an agnostic, in that my mom decided to let us think for ourselves), and if not when I was going to, so I had to point out I was not Christian. And then she started leading questions about that I was, which ended in "Are you an atheist, because it's alright to be an atheist." That last sentence pretty much made my respect for her plummet, and I decided to end that conversation there, and have not talked religion with pretty much any of that side of my family since.

Now we take my maternal grandmother (Catholic one too, believes completely in creationisim). She, in the end, respects whatever I believe. She knows I'm not Christian, she can probably remember the last time I attended a church service (Outside of school this last year) better then I can, but she doesn't bring it up as an issue. She doesn't care what I, or anyone else she knows, believes. Her I'll happily talk to it about on an equal footing.

And the general consensus (A wrong one at that) among my extended family is that I'm an atheist. But like I said, they never ask. So I treat everyone differently, depending on how they act, talk, what they do, their character basicly. I only try to convert those who try to convert me first though (It's fun), and my girlfriend, but I "try to convert her" (If I were a Christian missionary, I would have failed the first day, I'm not even really trying, or caring, or remembering I'm doing it except for this post) only to the point of a joke. Would I love it if she adopted my religion? Yea probably. Does it matter to me in the end if she doesn't? Not really. It might if I got serious and started practicing like I "should", but I don't, so it doesn't make a difference.

I tie my family members down till they convert and believe in what I tell them to, after that if they dare speak or act against those beliefs well then I have no family. jk really we don't really talk about it and just let whatever you want to believe in.

How does the old saying go? There are two things you don't talk about with family, religion and politics.

How does the old saying go? There are two things you don't talk about with family, religion and politics.
Where's the fun in that?

Where's the fun in that?

lol, there are plenty of other things you can argue about, or you could have fun together maybe by playing a board game *awaits groans* but not monopoly that game was designed for people to have arguments with each other.

Same thing you do with anyone else. Don't bring it up if it'll start a fight.You mean, invite them here, make a puppet, and mercilessly mock them with it until their resolve is steeled or they come to complain to you about it in a emotional shambles ... then you use that as the icebreaker to introduce them into other modes of thought about what the "real world" is like, and if they listen long enough, give them more ideas about what they can reintroduce themselves with later, and show up again with a *different* puppet to mock them only slightly less mercilessly?
And if they can't handle being worn down like that, remind them on later occasions that usually it's a matter of shaking out the less durable aspects of their argument when they go through that kind of thing, and most assuredly their argument is strong enough to handle scrutiny?
And further still, remind them you would never be so unaccepting of who they are because you love them?

just don´t cross my personal space with your beliefs.....what if it's kinda necessary to transfer a tumultuous spiritual entity in a ceremonial way into your ... erm, care?

Yeah, an agnostic living in the most agnostic/atheistic country of the world.
Starting a discussion about theology in Czech Republic can result in you being hit with MASSIVE indifference.

My partner's family is religious, specifically Methodist. They're not batshit insane about it, but they pray before meals and attend church, um, religiously. It made things a little awkward at first, seeing as how I'm not only atheist but also somewhat responsible for encouraging their son to abandon the last lingering shreds of his Christianity.

It's actually pretty easy to coexist, though, now that I've gotten to know them. I politely bow my head during their prayers, and I've attended church with them on holidays once or twice (Easter was interesting). I choose not to speak about my personal view of Christianity or religion around them, because I feel like that would be rather rude. Sort of like offering up unsought criticism of their drapes or something.

If one of them asks me directly about religion, I won't lie. I may end up marrying their son and I don't want them to have any illusions about what that would mean. I don't want to have to spend my life lying to them or hiding my own beliefs.

Fortunately I don't think I would have to. They're very nice people and I doubt it would be a real problem.

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

Short answer nothing. being family means that you all accept that some topics are taboo, and best to keep the family peace than speak your mind, sometimes.

I have a Christain sister, and a Pagan sister, and the rest of my family are atheist. I can speak with the athiest lot about my own faith, and the Pagan sister, but my Christian sister well, we just don't discuss religoin.

Well if you are a Muslim you kill the offending members of your family to preserve your family honor.

Just kidding by the way. Considering the presense of Catholics, Evangelical Christians, Muslims, Atheists (I stand in that corner), Shinto, and Pagans the topic of religion is quite lively and open. Where the knives fly out is the topic of politics. Not much is taboo in my family. If you have a thin skin you should not partake in our gatherings.

I stand on my belief that family is there to be family - not to be the same as you. So no, I would ever try to disconvert them.

....what if it's kinda necessary to transfer a tumultuous spiritual entity in a ceremonial way into your ... erm, care?

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My partner's family is religious, specifically Methodist. They're not batshit insane about it, but they pray before meals and attend church, um, religiously. It made things a little awkward at first, seeing as how I'm not only atheist but also somewhat responsible for encouraging their son to abandon the last lingering shreds of his Christianity.

It's actually pretty easy to coexist, though, now that I've gotten to know them. I politely bow my head during their prayers, and I've attended church with them on holidays once or twice (Easter was interesting). I choose not to speak about my personal view of Christianity or religion around them, because I feel like that would be rather rude. Sort of like offering up unsought criticism of their drapes or something.

If one of them asks me directly about religion, I won't lie. I may end up marrying their son and I don't want them to have any illusions about what that would mean. I don't want to have to spend my life lying to them or hiding my own beliefs.

Fortunately I don't think I would have to. They're very nice people and I doubt it would be a real problem.

Well that puts you on a higher plane than my sister, who can't resist trashing Catholicism even when she came over to stay with our mom, who is still Catholic. (That nun story I keep alluding to.,.. that was told in front of mom too.)

I tie my family members down till they convert and believe in what I tell them to, after that if they dare speak or act against those beliefs well then I have no family. jk really we don't really talk about it and just let whatever you want to believe in.

How does the old saying go? There are two things you don't talk about with family, religion and politics.

Actually its religion, politics and football.

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Ill check the holly scriptures to see how to deal with him. Im pretty sure it will involve some grievous bodily harm.

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Im quite impressed with the results of the poll. Seems like most people in NSG is actually quite tolerant and open minded.

Or maybe is it that people in NSG believe that peacefull family relationships are more important than religious beliefs?

Ill check the holly scriptures to see how to deal with him. Im pretty sure it will involve some grievous bodily harm.

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You do that.

Im quite impressed with the results of the poll. Seems like most people in NSG is actually quite tolerant and open minded.

The NSG façade seems to imply that.

Or maybe is it that people in NSG believe that peacefull family relationships are more important than religious beliefs?

People here seem to uphold family first, then religion and that's very good, in my book.

I have a friend who's one of those born again fellows.

It's fun to piss him off.

I have a bunch of friends that fight with me over religious sillyness, it's fun.

Actually its religion, politics and football.

.......and bringing up children.

I don't know what religious beliefs the rest of my family have. It is not something we ever talk about.

One of my parents is a Catholic, from the liberation theology school of thought. The other is an atheist. Siblings: agnostic. Me: mystic. All of us are good at arguing our beliefs.

My ex and I were married seven years before my ex realised I believe in the divine. I guess my ex assumed I was atheist because I never got angry or defensive when people, including my ex, railed on about how stupid theists are for believing in a 'magical skyfairy' or how we're trying to force everyone to live in the 1950's.

I guess you can say that I never bring it up in my family. I never talk to my children about god except to explain the historical or cultural influence of religion on our daily lives.

Well that puts you on a higher plane than my sister, who can't resist trashing Catholicism even when she came over to stay with our mom, who is still Catholic. (That nun story I keep alluding to.,.. that was told in front of mom too.)
Lol. Well, we'll see how long the "truce" with my possible-future-inlaws lasts once they find out that 1) No, I'm not taking their son's name, even if we get married, 2) No, it won't be a church wedding, if there's a wedding at all, 3) No, our children will not be baptized or confirmed or any such practice, and 4) No, they are not welcome to instruct us or our children to be Christian or follow Christian religious traditions in our own home.

I'm guessing at least a few of these may prove to be issues, if we get to that point, but I'm determined not to be the one who throws the first punch. Consider that evidence of how fond I am of my partner, as you compare it to my normal behavior around here! :P

Shrug my shoulders and get on with it.

Lol. Well, we'll see how long the "truce" with my possible-future-inlaws lasts once they find out that 1) No, I'm not taking their son's name, even if we get married, 2) No, it won't be a church wedding, if there's a wedding at all, 3) No, our children will not be baptized or confirmed or any such practice, and 4) No, they are not welcome to instruct us or our children to be Christian or follow Christian religious traditions in our own home.

I'm guessing at least a few of these may prove to be issues, if we get to that point, but I'm determined not to be the one who throws the first punch. Consider that evidence of how fond I am of my partner, as you compare it to my normal behavior around here! :P

Compelling evidence indeed! :p

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

That's probably why I never told them. I still maintain the facade of being Catholic to my family...

My PARENTS aren't the same religion. We get along pretty well.

At family dinners with my Catholic relatives (who I will be seeing in a few days!), we frequently say grace. More recently, in deference to my personal piety, I am invited to say a Jewish blessing as well. That should give you an idea of our relations.

The only conflicts I have are with my family over my level of observance. Here's the main issue: they want me to consider dating non-Jewish girls. I don't. My parents have resigned themselves to the fact that I will marry a Jewess, but they would rather I not eliminate non-Jews from my dating pool. My reason is that dating can easily lead to love, and to marriage, and I'd rather avoid that for non-Jews.

My PARENTS aren't the same religion. We get along pretty well.

At family dinners with my Catholic relatives (who I will be seeing in a few days!), we frequently say grace. More recently, in deference to my personal piety, I am invited to say a Jewish blessing as well. That should give you an idea of our relations.

The only conflicts I have are with my family over my level of observance. Here's the main issue: they want me to consider dating non-Jewish girls. I don't. My parents have resigned themselves to the fact that I will marry a Jewess, but they would rather I not eliminate non-Jews from my dating pool. My reason is that dating can easily lead to love, and to marriage, and I'd rather avoid that for non-Jews.

wow... thats pretty interesting. So one of your parents was willing to date, love and marriage a non-Jew... but you dont?

Could you explain why you wouldnt married a non-Jew...I mean considering that you are the son of a non-Jew?

Nothing.

wow... thats pretty interesting. So one of your parents was willing to date, love and marriage a non-Jew... but you dont?

Could you explain why you wouldnt married a non-Jew...I mean considering that you are the son of a non-Jew?

There is the issue that Judaism is passed via the mother. If I married a non-Jew, my children would not be Jewish, and would have to convert during adulthood, and there's no guarantee that they would. Having my children be non-Jews is pretty much a no-no for me.

There is the issue that Judaism is passed via the mother. If I married a non-Jew, my children would not be Jewish, and would have to convert during adulthood, and there's no guarantee that they would. Having my children be non-Jews is pretty much a no-no for me.

I see... so you requiere a Jewish mother for your sons and daughters to ensure they are born jews.

Im going to laugh so much when, after taking so much effort not dating non-Jews, your sons convert to Mormonism. :D

There is the issue that Judaism is passed via the mother. If I married a non-Jew, my children would not be Jewish, and would have to convert during adulthood, and there's no guarantee that they would. Having my children be non-Jews is pretty much a no-no for me.

Knowing what I know about children, you're in for an interesting life... ;)

My friend and I occasionally have a friendly, if heated, debate about God (atheist vs. catholic), but we let each other be in the end, since we both know that the other will never listen.

My friend and I occasionally have a friendly, if heated, debate about God (atheist vs. catholic), but we let each other be in the end, since we both know that the other will never listen.

Listen up NSG: maybe we should take this as advice.

Last year I had a pretty bad health scare and my very Christian aunty had my name mentioned in enough churches across the country that I had roughly 15,000 people praying for good test results.

She never once mentioned it to me and I found out through a random conversation she had with my mother a few months later. My family have converted live and let live into an art form.

i don't think i've ever had friends who were of a different religion, or religious at all for that matter. its not an issue for me at all.

i think i once had a friend who was mormon, but he didn't make much of a show about it and it never came up. and a friend who's parents were hindu, but i don't think he was. meh.

*snip*

So, out of curiosity, what is your religion? =)

Not give a fuck.

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Will Santiago be ... lending a hand? Like guiding me into the circumstance, or what?

Or lack of religion for that matter?

I would like to know, because I have many religious family members that know Im atheist and they take very different approaches.

Some ignore me, some try to convert me and some dont even speak to me.

If you believe a loved one is dooming himself to an eternity of suffering, what would you do?

I am the only christian in my family. And I leave them alone. Obviously, I don't hide my faith. If I'm going to church, I tell them. If I learned something interesting about God, I share it. But not with an evangelistic undertone, more friendship. But of course I would be praying for them. Your job is just to be a soft place for them, if they ever need you, and if they ever need you in the spiritual sense.
Do I think they're dooming themselves to an eternity of suffering? At the moment, if they died, I don't know if they would go to heaven or hell. Thats between them and God. I take comfort in knowing that God loves them as much as me...and that he is persistent. He wants them saved more than I do. And He will exhaust every possible way of getting their attention. So its not over.
And funnily enough, I'm glad that they aren't religious at all. I think it would be a lot harder to have 2 conflicting religions in the house.

If I learned something interesting about God, I share it. But not with an evangelistic undertone, more friendship. But of course I would be praying for them. Your job is just to be a soft place for them, if they ever need you, and if they ever need you in the spiritual sense.
Do I think they're dooming themselves to an eternity of suffering? At the moment, if they died, I don't know if they would go to heaven or hell. Thats between them and God.
We've had little to do with each other for whatever reasons, so i'll understand you not caring what i think.
What i DO think is that you really, really should maintain this grace for as long as you can in your life and dealings with people and your family/loved ones. Please do not lose sight of it.

Live and let live. There are many different religions within my family, but no fanatacism. If we each insisted we had The Truth™ then the various factions would be well on their way to becoming independent members of the nuclear powers club by now.

We do debate religion however, since we are pretty politically aware and all interested in current affairs. We’re grown enough to be able to do that and to make (good hearted) ridicule at each others beliefs (it’s a British thing, I think).

The only people within my family who I don’t really get on with are the only two who are Atheists, since they are also the only two who are fanatical about their beliefs.

Will Santiago be ... lending a hand? Like guiding me into the circumstance, or what?

He will be... procuring a secluded place to ah... perfom the eh... exchange. Yup. Why?

Not an issue. My dad's a militant atheist, and the rest are fairly ambivalently atheist.

There is the issue that Judaism is passed via the mother. If I married a non-Jew, my children would not be Jewish, and would have to convert during adulthood, and there's no guarantee that they would. Having my children be non-Jews is pretty much a no-no for me.

You said your parents aren't the same religion as you yet you claim to be a Jew and now you wont marry a now Jew so your children can be a Jew.

Something is afoot methinks.

Actually its religion, politics and football.

Well almost any sport where you support different teams, the amount of arguments I have gotten in with my father over F1 you wouldn't believe. And as Peepelonia said bringing up children.

You said your parents aren't the same religion as you yet you claim to be a Jew and now you wont marry a now Jew so your children can be a Jew.

Something is afoot methinks.
As I decipher it, his mother is Jewish although his father is not: so he is Jewish, but if he married a non-Jew his children would be non-Jews.

He will be... procuring a secluded place to ah... perfom the eh... exchange. Yup. Why?
Manicure!
Palmolive is illegal in Canada due to war reparations.

What do YOU do with family members and close friends that dont share your RELIGION?

Love them, what else?

And if they are fervent about some religious hoeki poeki and they would rather shun you than love you then just don't talk about religion with them.

Manicure!

Oh? With paraphine treatment and all?:p

Mirkana, you should marry whoever gets along with you best, jewish or nonjewish. If one rabbi is so stuckup that he/she refuses to accept your future children as jewish, you can simply find another synagogue -- the first one is not worthy of having you and them in his/her synagogue!

Mirkana: assume you are faced with a choice between marrying a Jewish girl and marrying a non-Jewish girl. Assume also that whichever girl you don't marry is probably going to end up marrying somebody else and having kids anyway. The Jewish girl is going to have officially Jewish kids, whether by you or by somebody else, and the non-Jewish girl will have officially non-Jewish kids. So unless you carry genes for unusual fecundity, your decision doesn't actually impact the number of Jews in the next generation anyway.

bury them up to their necks in sand.

I don't do anything, its assinine to ignore people because of a different belief and its even more assinine to attempt to force your beliefs down someone's throat.

About half of my family is atheist/agnostic, the other half is Southern Baptist (shudder) and we do our best to not notice. Weddings and funerals are the only places we have to openly acknowledge the differences.

Oh? With paraphine treatment and all?:p
Whatever works. I've found that a lot of people here on NSG have an inordinate amount of callouses and other unpleasantries regarding their skin due to EXCESSIVE masturbation.
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bury them up to their necks in sand.And then ... WHAT do you do their faces?
I'd say ask Guy.
http://www.watchmojo.com/blogs/images/guy.jpg

And then ... WHAT do you do their faces?
I'd say ask Guy.
http://www.watchmojo.com/blogs/images/guy.jpg

spread bread crumbs around and let seagulls feed.

spread bread crumbs around and let seagulls feed.
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Which certainly shouldn't impede his idea as well. :)

whatever Works. I've Found That A Lot Of People Here On Nsg Have An Inordinate Amount Of Callouses And Other Unpleasantries Regarding Their Skin Due To Excessive Masturbation.
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:d
:d? Is that the "licking the upper lip" emoticon? ;)

There's no option for: "there aren't any local friends or relatives who are not of my religion"

I haven't seen anyone in my family in five years, so they wouldn't know about my turn toward Taoism, and I have no idea what most of them believe anymore. I also couldn't care less. As for my friends, my closest friend is Wiccan, and as far as I know most of the rest aren't particularly religious. I generally don't befriend the overtly religious, because I don't wish to be proselytized.

:d? Is that the "licking the upper lip" emoticon? ;)

It´s supposed to be the grinning smiley but for some reason it´s acting like a total bitch and refuses to come up on my posts so...:p

It´s supposed to be the grinning smiley but for some reason it´s acting like a total bitch and refuses to come up on my posts so...:p
*consoles*
Not even capital D?

*consoles*
Not even capital D?

*rubs forehead like a kitty to Straughn´s hand*
Not even the capital D works. Jolt hates me.
:(
MEROWR!

*rubs forehead like a kitty to Straughn´s hand*I *like* where this is going .... :)

Not even the capital D works. Jolt hates me.
:(
MEROWR!If i may offer, then?
http://www.websmileys.com/

I *like* where this is going .... :)
If i may offer, then?
http://www.websmileys.com/

You may offer.
*purrs some more*
But frankly, I don´t know why this is happening with just this smiley in particular. The others work just fine.

You may offer.
*purrs some more*
But frankly, I don´t know why this is happening with just this smiley in particular. The others work just fine.

I've noticed that on occasion, i can't control-b, -i, or -u without my computer mistaking it for some other function i don't use. Not constant, thankfully.

I've noticed that on occasion, i can't control-b, -i, or -u without my computer mistaking it for some other function i don't use. Not constant, thankfully.

Yes, perhaps this is some glitch that will go away later on.:)

I try to convert them. If that doesn't take, I kill them. But first I eat their hearts and then with my religiously fueled iron will I overpower their souls and they become part of mine, increasing my power and ensuring their salvation.

Who do I worship, you ask? Zombie Odin.

(Too much?)

I used to have religious discussions with my dad, but this usually ended up with him getting mad so I've avoided the subject.

He's a Christian and I'm fairly ignostic.