NationStates Jolt Archive


So gays are allowed to marry in California

The Black Forrest
17-06-2008, 20:03
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)
Cannot think of a name
17-06-2008, 20:07
Truly. It's actually a beautiful day here in San Francisco right now. A gift to all those June brides...
South Lorenya
17-06-2008, 20:09
Cleasrly it's god's punishment for not letting gays marry in the midwest. :p
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 20:13
homo sexualism is just plain wrong

Why?
Berzerkirs
17-06-2008, 20:13
homo sexualism is just plain wrong
Dempublicents1
17-06-2008, 20:18
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction.

The only purpose? It's a rather inefficient process then, don't you think?

It's against instinct

Your instinct, perhaps. Can you speak for everyone?

(and for some, religion) to be homosexual.

And for some, it isn't against their religion. Go figure.
Worldly Federation
17-06-2008, 20:19
Why?

Because the purpose of sex is reproduction. It's against instinct (and for some, religion) to be homosexual.
Aryavartha
17-06-2008, 20:21
About time.
Yootopia
17-06-2008, 20:22
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)
Good point. There's an Israeli MP who commented on this very matter regarding earthquakes rather than flooding a while back.
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction.
You must have a dreadful / no sex life.
Urgench
17-06-2008, 20:24
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction. It's against instinct (and for some, religion) to be homosexual.

thats like saying that because humans are naturaly violent we should all be violent all the time. or that our senses are purely for survival and anything not related to survival i.e. art, society, and culture are wrong
New Illuve
17-06-2008, 20:27
Definitely not MY instinct! Sex with a woman - ick!!! Bah!!!

But this just in: In celebration of the gay marriages now currently taking place in California, the Norwegian upper house in Parliament has passed a gender-neutral marriage law! As the lower house has already passed the law, gay and lesbian couples will be able to enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals in Norway as of 1 January, 2009.

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-17-gaymarriage_N.htm?csp=34
Ifreann
17-06-2008, 20:34
In b4 the collapse of civilisation ;)
Tmutarakhan
17-06-2008, 20:36
or that our senses are purely for survival and anything not related to survival i.e. art, society, and culture are wrong
Or that our penis is purely for urination, and any other use...
Yootopia
17-06-2008, 20:41
Or that our penis is purely for urination, and any other use...
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*
The Alma Mater
17-06-2008, 20:41
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction.

How nice. Fortunately, as a human being, I am able to determine one sometimes can use things for other purposes than they were intended for.

Amazing, isn't it ? Wouldn't you like to have this superpower ?
New Illuve
17-06-2008, 20:46
Funny how those that think sex should only be for reproduction don't seem to have any problems with us using our noses and ears to hold our glasses in place, for example, isn't it?
Rambhutan
17-06-2008, 20:48
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*

AND NEITHER OF YOU MUST ENJOY IT.
Ifreann
17-06-2008, 20:48
AND NEITHER OF YOU MUST ENJOY IT.

Every time a woman orgasms, God kills an alien race.
Yootopia
17-06-2008, 20:50
AND NEITHER OF YOU MUST ENJOY IT.
Quite.
The Alma Mater
17-06-2008, 20:50
Funny how those that think sex should only be for reproduction don't seem to have any problems with us using our noses and ears to hold our glasses in place, for example, isn't it?

Actually, I do believe it is an abomination to enter a church while wearing glasses. You know, a sin as grave as being gay.
Trostia
17-06-2008, 20:52
Every time a woman orgasms, God kills an alien race.

Christ. No wonder we haven't discovered traces of other life in the universe.
The Alma Mater
17-06-2008, 20:53
Christ. No wonder we haven't discovered traces of other life in the universe.

Hmm. Since God is, by definition, an alien - will He eventually have to kill Himself if the women of earth keep orgasming ?
Or did Nietzsches wife already cause that to happen...
[NS:]Zenspoliticalrants
17-06-2008, 20:55
http://www.nepalibwatch.com/
Anti-Social Darwinism
17-06-2008, 20:56
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*

IN THE DARK, WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED. PREFERABLY FULLY CLOTHED.

*nods back*
Trostia
17-06-2008, 20:58
Hmm. Since God is, by definition, an alien - will He eventually have to kill Himself if the women of earth keep orgasming ?

I don't know if God is an alien. Isn't the current theory that He's a reincarnated dead Jewish man?

Or did Nietzsches wife already cause that to happen...

I always wondered what he meant by that quote. Now I know: he was bragging!
Sparkelle
17-06-2008, 20:58
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)

The message is:
It's Raining Men!
The Alma Mater
17-06-2008, 20:59
I don't know if God is an alien.

If He created the Earth, He has to be.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2008, 20:59
I guess that since I got a vasectomy that I should stop having sex with my wife then since we can no longer reproduce.

Damn, what a bummer. And here I thought sex for pleasure was OK. I must be going to hell with all of the gays.

On second thought, that is far from being a bummer. The party in hell will be fabulouuuuuuuuus!
Wilgrove
17-06-2008, 21:01
Well fuck, I got a Vasectomy too and I only have sex for pleasure and to bring myself closer to any woman I may be with at the time. I guess I'm on the express lane to Hell too! Ah well.
Ifreann
17-06-2008, 21:01
I guess that since I got a vasectomy that I should stop having sex with my wife then since we can no longer reproduce.

Damn, what a bummer. And here I thought sex for pleasure was OK. I must be going to hell with all of the gays.

On second thought, that is far from being a bummer. The party in hell will be fabulouuuuuuuuus!

Hell is flaming, and not in the fire and brimstone sense.
Sumamba Buwhan
17-06-2008, 21:07
Hell is flaming, and not in the fire and brimstone sense.

:D
Lunatic Goofballs
17-06-2008, 22:42
I'm feeling generous, so I will grant anyone who does feels that gay marriage is wrong permission to not marry a gay member of their own sex. If a man wants to marry a woman, or a woman wants to marry a man, so be it. I hereby endore this. In exchange, these same people need to shut the fuck up other people's marriages and stop minding other people's business.

Fair enough? :)

((Next inane piece of legislature to topple should be that DOMA turd.))
Heikoku 2
17-06-2008, 22:56
And, of course, the cardinals, priests, pastors, and ministers - to be fair, only the idiotic ones - are already railing against gay marriage.

How long do you think until they are found banging 9-year olds, banging 10-year olds, embezzling, and doing drugs, respectively?
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 22:57
And, of course, the cardinals, priests, pastors, and ministers - to be fair, only the idiotic ones - are already railing against gay marriage.

How long do you think until they are found banging 9-year olds, banging 10-year olds, embezzling, and doing drugs, respectively?

They already are. They just haven't been caught yet :D.
I must be going to hell with all of the gays.

On second thought, that is far from being a bummer. The party in hell will be fabulouuuuuuuuus!
I wish I had enough room to sig that!:p
Utracia
17-06-2008, 23:03
I'm feeling generous, so I will grant anyone who does feels that gay marriage is wrong permission to not marry a gay member of their own sex. If a man wants to marry a woman, or a woman wants to marry a man, so be it. I hereby endore this. In exchange, these same people need to shut the fuck up other people's marriages and stop minding other people's business.

Fair enough? :)

((Next inane piece of legislature to topple should be that DOMA turd.))

but... but... if this remains legal the slippery slope theory would tell us that soon people would be marrying farm animals and the like! Would be chaos! :eek:
Heikoku 2
17-06-2008, 23:08
They already are. They just haven't been caught yet :D.

Uhm, the "found" meant "caught". ;)
Utracia
17-06-2008, 23:09
And, of course, the cardinals, priests, pastors, and ministers - to be fair, only the idiotic ones - are already railing against gay marriage.

How long do you think until they are found banging 9-year olds, banging 10-year olds, embezzling, and doing drugs, respectively?

an even better version of Ted Haggard?
Cosmopoles
17-06-2008, 23:12
Every time a woman orgasms, God kills an alien race.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Because the purpose of sex is reproduction.

Does this mean I've been doing it wrong?
Lunatic Goofballs
18-06-2008, 00:01
but... but... if this remains legal the slippery slope theory would tell us that soon people would be marrying farm animals and the like! Would be chaos! :eek:

As fun as that sounds, I can't imagine Soccer Cows. :p
Bellania
18-06-2008, 00:12
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)

God hates corn. Gets stuck in his teeth.
JuNii
18-06-2008, 00:30
Christ. No wonder we haven't discovered traces of other life in the universe.

... so that means women LIED when they say they were "faking"? :eek:
Hurdegaryp
18-06-2008, 00:32
How nice. Fortunately, as a human being, I am able to determine one sometimes can use things for other purposes than they were intended for.
Wait, you're one of those persons who likes to have sex just for fun? Woah, I thought I was the only one on this forum!
Dyke Island
18-06-2008, 00:38
Wait, you're one of those persons who likes to have sex just for fun? Woah, I thought I was the only one on this forum!

agreed XD
Who says sex is just for reproduction?
Humans are among the very few species that have sex for, what is known as pleasure
whoever says sex is purely to make babies obviously has no concept of entertainment
Sumamba Buwhan
18-06-2008, 01:02
... so that means women LIED when they say they were "faking"? :eek:

No, they were telling the truth about lying.

Actually I have given my wife enough orgasms to wipe out every last trace of extraterrestrial life out there.
The_pantless_hero
18-06-2008, 01:04
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)

Judging by the order in which it happened, severe flooding causes gay marriage.
Gauthier
18-06-2008, 01:05
God hates corn. Gets stuck in his teeth.

So isn't America being sinful by using corn to make ethanol?
Bellania
18-06-2008, 02:50
So isn't America being sinful by using corn to make ethanol?

Nope, God likes drunk people and SUVs. Don't you watch O'Reilly?
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 03:11
And yet there is heavy flooding in the midwest.

So what's the message? ;)

Didn't the floods begin on Friday 13th so what's the message there?
Gauthier
18-06-2008, 03:13
Nope, God likes drunk people and SUVs. Don't you watch O'Reilly?

But it's using CORN to do that. How's God gonna explain that paradox?
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 03:13
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*

Umm at the risk of being shot at, wouldn't the wife be a woman regardless? After all wouldn't a male couple getting married would both be the groom and both be husbands?
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 03:15
Well fuck, I got a Vasectomy too and I only have sex for pleasure and to bring myself closer to any woman I may be with at the time. I guess I'm on the express lane to Hell too! Ah well.

Don't mean to sound rude here Wilgrove and I may be gravely wrong but aren't you only in your late 20's?
Wilgrove
18-06-2008, 03:17
Don't mean to sound rude here Wilgrove and I may be gravely wrong but aren't you only in your late 20's?

24. I am pretty damn sure (110%) that I don't want children, so I got the snippity snip.
Calarca
18-06-2008, 03:22
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*

does it have to be loving? can lusting be used instead?

Do a britney, marry one night, divorce the morning after :D just hopefully not in pink tracksuits.
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 03:23
24. I am pretty damn sure (110%) that I don't want children, so I got the snippity snip.

Gee, really wow fair enough. How old where you when you got it cut?

At least there won't be any more of your kind after your gone;)
Calarca
18-06-2008, 03:24
24. I am pretty damn sure (110%) that I don't want children, so I got the snippity snip.

well, if you change your mind in the furture they can use a needle to get the wrigglers direct from the balls these days. but then your wife gets to hump a doc and his syringe instead of you.
CthulhuFhtagn
18-06-2008, 03:59
The only purpose? It's a rather inefficient process then, don't you think?


I forget, what's the chance that any given act of unprotected sex will result in a live birth? I want to say it's around 10% or so, but I could be wrong.
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 04:00
I forget, what's the chance that any given act of unprotected sex will result in a live birth? I want to say it's around 10% or so, but I could be wrong.

Don't the chances change depending on the cycle.
Giant Communist Robots
18-06-2008, 04:31
I am fine with homosexuals getting married so long as they are barred from adopting/raising children.
DaWoad
18-06-2008, 04:57
yep
Kyronea
18-06-2008, 05:21
Don't mean to sound rude here Wilgrove and I may be gravely wrong but aren't you only in your late 20's?

I'm only twenty-one and I'm considering it too, mainly because I don't want to create children. I would like to RAISE a child, but I would much rather adopt than create my own. After all, why make your own when there's one already out there that needs your love?
Anti-Social Darwinism
18-06-2008, 05:29
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction. It's against instinct (and for some, religion) to be homosexual.

Does this mean that, since I'm past menopause, I can't have sex?:confused:
Blouman Empire
18-06-2008, 05:31
I'm only twenty-one and I'm considering it too, mainly because I don't want to create children. I would like to RAISE a child, but I would much rather adopt than create my own. After all, why make your own when there's one already out there that needs your love?

mmm yes that is very profound of you, but can't you just do that anyway?
Heikoku 2
18-06-2008, 05:37
I am fine with homosexuals getting married so long as they are barred from adopting/raising children.

That you fail to address the fact that children raised by homosexuals are just as well-adjusted as children raised by straight couples is a sad, unsurprising fact. One your argument will carry to its grave, because that lack of support just killed it.
G3N13
18-06-2008, 05:48
A clear sign of the end times! (http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=37)

:p
Kyronea
18-06-2008, 06:21
mmm yes that is very profound of you, but can't you just do that anyway?

Sure, but a vasectomy will allow me to have sex without having to worry about protection(At least for the sake of contraception, anyway.) That way there won't be any accidental kids. (No protection is 100% foolproof.)
Katganistan
18-06-2008, 06:21
Because the purpose of sex is reproduction. It's against instinct (and for some, religion) to be homosexual.

If that's true, why are there aisles devoted to birth control in the local pharmacy?
Wilgrove
18-06-2008, 13:44
Gee, really wow fair enough. How old where you when you got it cut?

VERY recently.

At least there won't be any more of your kind after your gone;)

Well see, now you're just trying to talk me into getting it reversed. :p
Wilgrove
18-06-2008, 13:45
I am fine with homosexuals getting married so long as they are barred from adopting/raising children.

and why should they be barred from adopting/raising children?
Heikoku 2
18-06-2008, 15:51
Does this mean that, since I'm past menopause, I can't have sex?:confused:

SURE you can!

You just can't ENJOY it. :p
Intangelon
18-06-2008, 16:48
Does this mean that, since I'm past menopause, I can't have sex?:confused:

I sure hope not...:D
The Black Forrest
18-06-2008, 22:00
and why should they be barred from adopting/raising children?

Didn't you get the memo? They will be molested and turn gay if it is allowed!
Ifreann
18-06-2008, 22:24
If that's true, why are there aisles devoted to birth control in the local pharmacy?

Tools of the devil *nods*
Glorious Alpha Complex
18-06-2008, 23:33
IS SINFUL, EXCEPT IN A LOVING MARRIAGE, AND ONLY THEN WITH YOUR WIFE WHO IS A WOMAN IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION WITHOUT PROTECTION.

*nods*

So lesbians are OK then?

Damn them, always getting the long end of the stick.;)
Heikoku 2
18-06-2008, 23:37
So lesbians are OK then?

Damn them, always getting the long end of the stick.;)

Ooo, lesbians! :D
Wilgrove
18-06-2008, 23:38
Didn't you get the memo? They will be molested and turn gay if it is allowed!

But wait...I know gay people that comes from straight families! I know people who's been molested by straight families! :eek:
Dempublicents1
18-06-2008, 23:41
But wait...I know gay people that comes from straight families! I know people who's been molested by straight families! :eek:

All lies. It's what the homosexual agenda wants you to believe.
New Brittonia
18-06-2008, 23:45
Remember this, gays in California are equally screwed, you have to give half your income as alimony in a divorce...
Wilgrove
18-06-2008, 23:45
Remember this, gays in California are equally screwed, you have to give half your income as alimony in a divorce...

What if they have a pre-nup?
Intestinal fluids
19-06-2008, 04:11
Anything that makes Sulu happy makes me happy.
Blouman Empire
19-06-2008, 04:20
Sure, but a vasectomy will allow me to have sex without having to worry about protection(At least for the sake of contraception, anyway.) That way there won't be any accidental kids. (No protection is 100% foolproof.)

That's true and it feels better too.

VERY recently.

Fair enough well I glad you have done what you think is right.

Well see, now you're just trying to talk me into getting it reversed. :p

:D Do you think you ever will want to? Or do you think along the same lines as Kyronea.
Gronde
19-06-2008, 04:23
I'm just going to point that this is California that we're talking about. This is hardly a big story for me; I'm surprised that they haven't made homosexuality compulsory yet. :p (I exaggerate, obviously, but my point stands)
Trostia
19-06-2008, 04:26
I'm just going to point that this is California that we're talking about.

Yeah, this grand state of ours is progressive.

But I hope you don't mean to imply that there's any lack of anti-homosexual paranoid freaks here. Speaking in total, there are almost certainly more homophobes in California than in most other states.
Of course there are more people in general in CA.

Even so, it's foolish to ignore vast chunks of the population and paint everyone in the state with the same wide political brush.
Cannot think of a name
19-06-2008, 04:34
Remember this, gays in California are equally screwed, you have to give half your income as alimony in a divorce...

I thought about this when the ruling came out-that many couples who are close but maybe not really ready to 'tie the knot' so to speak may be compelled by the history of the situation to participate in a wedding that is perhaps not the best idea for them.

But then they are together, and it's clear that marriage for them (specifically, not 'them' as a community) was a bad idea. But they stay together because they don't want to be the first gay married couple in California to divorce.

And so it becomes a game of divorce chicken, where there are mismatched pairs of homosexual couples staying together in the hopes that the other couples flinch first.
Intangelon
19-06-2008, 17:54
Anything that makes Sulu happy makes me happy.

"So much for the little training cruise...."
Gronde
20-06-2008, 15:21
Yeah, this grand state of ours is progressive.

But I hope you don't mean to imply that there's any lack of anti-homosexual paranoid freaks here. Speaking in total, there are almost certainly more homophobes in California than in most other states.
Of course there are more people in general in CA.

Even so, it's foolish to ignore vast chunks of the population and paint everyone in the state with the same wide political brush.

Well, I was more just light-heartedly commenting on the predominant patterns of the majority of politicians and courts in the state. I'm well aware that large numbers of Californians are strongly opposed to this measure, and they have every right to be, this being a free country that allows everyone the right to their own opinions.

My point is, I'm hardly surprised given the "progressive" patterns of California government. This is barely news worthy in my opinion. (granted I never much cared about gay marriage in the first place)
Mirkai
20-06-2008, 15:59
My point is, I'm hardly surprised given the "progressive" patterns of California government. This is barely news worthy in my opinion.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If something was made less news-worthy because it was foretold by the political climate, wouldn't just about every law passed in a democracy be unworthy of coverage?

"Oh, Texas is known for its lack of gun control, this bill legalizing fully automatic weapons isn't worth reporting."