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Does God believe in you?

Rexmehe
17-06-2008, 14:36
if threads get enough 1 votes do they get deleted?



e; Mods can you please delete this thread it was started by something stupid.
IL Ruffino
17-06-2008, 14:37
Does he?!!?!

I think he wants to believe in me, but he just can't, due to science.
Ashmoria
17-06-2008, 14:37
oh i see what you mean. i dont know anything about biology and statistics but there would seem to be a far less than 1 in 7billion chance that i exist.

i wouldnt believe in me with those odds.
IL Ruffino
17-06-2008, 14:39
if threads get enough 1 votes do they get deleted?

n00b lozor you stole mah thread!
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 14:40
Does he?!!?!

I think he wants to believe in me, but he just can't, due to science.

Siggable!

God believes in me, because I believe in him! Oh wait, circular reasoning....
Rexmehe
17-06-2008, 14:40
n00b lozor you stole mah thread!

Suck it up you leet speaking agitator.
Brutland and Norden
17-06-2008, 14:49
God believes in me.
IL Ruffino
17-06-2008, 14:57
God believes in me.

What makes you so sure?
Brutland and Norden
17-06-2008, 15:01
What makes you so sure?
He told me.
Vakirauta
17-06-2008, 15:08
He told me.

Another triumph for science and common sense.
Brutland and Norden
17-06-2008, 15:09
Another triumph for science and common sense.
'course. My name is "science and common sense", y'know.
Was this during prayer?
Nope.
IL Ruffino
17-06-2008, 15:09
He told me.

Was this during prayer?
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 15:10
God doesn't believe in me because something that doesn't exist can't have a belief.
Vakirauta
17-06-2008, 15:13
God doesn't believe in me because something that doesn't exist can't have a belief.

What if you don't exist?
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 15:18
What if you don't exist?

Cogito, ergo sum.
Vakirauta
17-06-2008, 15:19
Cogito, ergo sum.

Yeah I make up words sometimes too.
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 15:22
Yeah I make up words sometimes too.

It's Latin for "I think therefore I am". Originally said by René Descartes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum).
Ashmoria
17-06-2008, 15:24
Yeah I make up words sometimes too.

It's Latin for "I think therefore I am". Originally said by René Descartes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum).

duh. sometimes you just have to understand that a post is funny and not over think it. he knows what it means without you having to tell him.
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 15:28
It's Latin for "I think therefore I am". Originally said by René Descartes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum).

Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum
"I doubt, therefore I think, Therefore I am"
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 15:28
duh. sometimes you just have to understand that a post is funny and not over think it. he knows what it means without you having to tell him.

A post is funny only when the intonation is there. His is lacking.
Ashmoria
17-06-2008, 15:31
A post is funny only when the intonation is there. His is lacking.

then why did i laugh when i read it?
Vakirauta
17-06-2008, 15:31
A post is funny only when the intonation is there. His is lacking.

I apologise for my lacking of intonation. It's hard to intone with only my keyboard.
Ashmoria
17-06-2008, 15:33
I apologise for my lacking of intonation. It's hard to intone with only my keyboard.

you should get a mac.
Urcea
17-06-2008, 15:34
In Mother Russia....
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-06-2008, 15:49
If I were God I wouldn't believe in me. I guess this pretty much gives my answer to this thread.
Frisbeeteria
17-06-2008, 16:08
e; Mods can you please delete this thread it was started by something stupid.

Rexmehe, knock off the personal attacks. This isn't /b/.
Heinleinites
17-06-2008, 17:56
Cogito, ergo sum.

Now all you have to do is prove that you're thinking. ;)

Of course, God believes in me. Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Sparkelle
17-06-2008, 18:02
you guys... OMG... this thread delivers
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 18:24
Now all you have to do is prove that you're thinking. ;)

Of course, God believes in me. Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Very good, you can quote scripture. That proves nothing.
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 18:25
you guys... OMG... this thread delivers

Delivers? Don't we have to nail to a cross first, to forgive all threads of their spams and give them everlasting "Hot thread" status among the mdoerators?:confused:
Cybornia
17-06-2008, 19:01
So is the experiment here to see how many people will naturally respond to a ridiculous question or just to see how many people will comment on the people that do so?

Either way, it seems to be going great.

As for your question, just for kicks...

Well, yes. He does.
CthulhuFhtagn
17-06-2008, 19:10
God's my high priest.
Heinleinites
17-06-2008, 19:11
Very good, you can quote scripture. That proves nothing.

Didn't you read it? Of course it does.
Ifreann
17-06-2008, 19:37
I don't care if he believes in me, as long as he worships me and gives me 10% of his gross income.
Damor
17-06-2008, 19:58
Either god doesn't exist, or he believes enough in me not to bother making his presence felt.
Macchabia
17-06-2008, 20:01
Thanks folks...
But sure I believe in Me
Conserative Morality
17-06-2008, 20:07
God's my high priest.

So... God worships Cthulhu? Things just got REALLY complicated...
Santiago I
17-06-2008, 20:56
If I were God I wouldn't believe in me. I guess this pretty much gives my answer to this thread.

My goddess does believes in me... She speaks oftenly directly to me.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-06-2008, 20:57
My goddess does believes in me... She speaks oftenly directly to me.

Not so. You haven't been answering my phone calls lately.<_<
Big Jim P
17-06-2008, 21:05
Yes I do.
JuNii
17-06-2008, 21:10
yes.
Farflorin
17-06-2008, 21:29
Didn't you read it? Of course it does.

It was written by the hand of man. It proves nothing.
New Manvir
17-06-2008, 21:50
god doesn't believe in fictional characters.
Vakirauta
17-06-2008, 22:54
Delivers? Don't we have to nail to a cross first, to forgive all threads of their spams and give them everlasting "Hot thread" status among the mdoerators?:confused:

This is a /b/ phrase. Learn it for future reference

Rexmehe, knock off the personal attacks. This isn't /b/.

The Christianity Threads suggest otherwise
Kharanjul
17-06-2008, 23:34
For God to believe in you, you must first believe in yourself.

Or something. *nods*
Soheran
17-06-2008, 23:42
God has always been told that I exist, but in His arrogant little mind, He thinks He knows better.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-06-2008, 23:49
God has always been told that I exist, but in His arrogant little mind, He thinks He knows better.

Sig-worthy, mate.
Bellania
18-06-2008, 00:16
God has always been told that I exist, but in His arrogant little mind, He thinks He knows better.

Yep, because I'm too tiny and irrelevant to bother trying to determine if I'm real.
Bellania
18-06-2008, 00:17
God's my high priest.

How's his gear? Is it l33t? Does grinding with God go faster? I bet nobody in God's group gets ganked, except for one dumbass who gets rezzed after three game days.
New Malachite Square
18-06-2008, 00:28
I think he wants to believe in me, but he just can't, due to science.

He used to know I existed, but he couldn't pay his omniscience bill and now he isn't sure.
Hurdegaryp
18-06-2008, 00:31
It's like Laibach already sang on their album "Jesus Christ Superstars":

God Is God
Ashmoria
18-06-2008, 01:15
Now all you have to do is prove that you're thinking. ;)

Of course, God believes in me. Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

are you sure that passage is referring to YOU? are you an ordained prophet unto the nations?
CthulhuFhtagn
18-06-2008, 03:05
How's his gear? Is it l33t? Does grinding with God go faster? I bet nobody in God's group gets ganked, except for one dumbass who gets rezzed after three game days.

High priest. As in the boring fucker with the robes and the hat who does nothing.
Conserative Morality
18-06-2008, 03:07
This is a /b/ phrase. Learn it for future reference



The Christianity Threads suggest otherwise

???

What in the world are you talking about?
IL Ruffino
18-06-2008, 14:31
It's like Laibach already sang on their album "Jesus Christ Superstars":

God Is God

Ah yes, but liquor is quicker.
Santiago I
18-06-2008, 14:39
Not so. You haven't been answering my phone calls lately.<_<

ITs the damn internet connection that doesnt lets me recieve voice over IP. :mad:

But dont worry your hollyness... Im changing my internet provider soon.

We will make pen nace and some more sacrifices to appease you.;)
Vakirauta
18-06-2008, 15:19
???

What in the world are you talking about?
Lern 2 internet, then come back and all will be clear.
Btw /b/ got closed today =/
Nanatsu no Tsuki
18-06-2008, 15:20
ITs the damn internet connection that doesnt lets me recieve voice over IP. :mad:

But dont worry your hollyness... Im changing my internet provider soon.

We will make pen nace and some more sacrifices to appease you.;)

You better do all that or my wrath'll be felt!!!
Mad hatters in jeans
18-06-2008, 15:24
oh i see what you mean. i dont know anything about biology and statistics but there would seem to be a far less than 1 in 7billion chance that i exist.

i wouldnt believe in me with those odds.

yeah but think how much money you could make if you turned out to be true?
I'd be a millionaire, so hell yes i believe in you!
as for God, meh it's a love/hate thing sometimes she gets annoyed when i don't do things properly, but occaisionally i make the right moves.
Dontletmedown
18-06-2008, 15:55
:rolleyes:And I'll hide under the covers,
Until this winter's over,
And I won't see the sun,
And I won't watch the rain,
And I won't count my blessings for my blessings are my pain,

There's things I fear (there's things I fear) that scare me to death,
I've got a lot of fears, I'll never fight until they bring me,

Down for the count,
I'm living in a world,
That's betting all of its losses,
With all of its promises,
I'm up and down,
Like beers into my mouth,
A therapy I've been pending,
For my happy ending now,

And I'm trading my addictions,
by adding new addictions,
New addictions to the rest,
And I don't count the stars,
Cause they don't count on me,
And I won't leave my house tonight, it's where I'd rather be,
Heinleinites
18-06-2008, 17:48
It was written by the hand of man. It proves nothing.

While the ink that made up the words was placed on the various papers and scrolls by the hands of men, the ideas and thoughts therein were inspired(or dictated to them, if you prefer)by God Himself. I'm not sure what it is you're expecting proof of. If I could "prove" to a sinful world's satisfaction that the Scriptures were indeed the Word of God, you wouldn't need faith.

are you sure that passage is referring to YOU? are you an ordained prophet unto the nations?

To answer the first question, Yes. Yes I am. To answer the second question, only in the sense that every Christian is expected to be, I make no particular special claim in that regard.
Conrado
18-06-2008, 18:01
No, God became logical and realized that I don't have to exist in order to explain the universe. Then he read the Koran and Bible, and realized what a prick I was, and decided that even if I do exist, (which I don't), I'm not worth worshiping or believing in because I'm such a rotten asshole. I mean, I call for my followers to murder infant children, like in Samuel 15:3 and in Deuteronomy 20:16, and on multiple occasions have called for genocide.
Farflorin
18-06-2008, 18:35
While the ink that made up the words was placed on the various papers and scrolls by the hands of men, the ideas and thoughts therein were inspired(or dictated to them, if you prefer)by God Himself. I'm not sure what it is you're expecting proof of. If I could "prove" to a sinful world's satisfaction that the Scriptures were indeed the Word of God, you wouldn't need faith.

Herein lies the second issue; man wrote it down, God didn't. God may have "inspired" or "dicated" it, but he didn't write it. Also, there is no proof that God sat in the same room as the inspiration came or it was dictated.

Man is fallible.

The text's original meaning was likely lost over the centuries because the transcription of the "holy" texts were done by hand. A word that exists in one language may not exist in another, which lends its to another problem, the meaning of the passage.
Heinleinites
18-06-2008, 19:57
Herein lies the second issue; man wrote it down, God didn't. God may have "inspired" or "dicated" it, but he didn't write it. Also, there is no proof that God sat in the same room as the inspiration came or it was dictated.

When a Fortune 500 CEO dictates a letter to a secretary, he may not do the actual writing, but it's still very much from him. His thoughts, his ideas, his commands. It's not so much who does the actual putting of pen to paper that matters, as it is who's behind the words being written. Also, God's omnipresent, he's everywhere(and everywhen) all at the same time. He's like McDonalds' that way.

Man is fallible.

Finally, a point of agreement. In fact, I think 'fallible' might be giving makind rather too much credit, desperately wicked as we are.

The text's original meaning was likely lost over the centuries because the transcription of the "holy" texts were done by hand. A word that exists in one language may not exist in another, which lends its to another problem, the meaning of the passage.

If we were discussing stereo instructions(which often seem to be translated from Japanese to English by someone who spoke only Swahili)this might be true. This is the Word of God, though, handed for the instruction and edification of mankind, He's not going to go through all that trouble to let Babel Fish translate 'filet mignon' as 'Happy Meal.'
Vakirauta
18-06-2008, 20:03
When a Fortune 500 CEO dictates a letter to a secretary, he may not do the actual writing, but it's still very much from him. His thoughts, his ideas, his commands. It's not so much who does the actual putting of pen to paper that matters, as it is who's behind the words being written. Also, God's omnipresent, he's everywhere(and everywhen) all at the same time. He's like McDonalds' that way.



Finally, a point of agreement. In fact, I think 'fallible' might be giving makind rather too much credit, desperately wicked as we are.



If we were discussing stereo instructions(which often seem to be translated from Japanese to English by someone who spoke only Swahili)this might be true. This is the Word of God, though, handed for the instruction and edification of mankind, He's not going to go through all that trouble to let Babel Fish translate 'filet mignon' as 'Happy Meal.'

tl;dr: God endorses McDonalds.
Farflorin
18-06-2008, 20:53
When a Fortune 500 CEO dictates a letter to a secretary, he may not do the actual writing, but it's still very much from him. His thoughts, his ideas, his commands. It's not so much who does the actual putting of pen to paper that matters, as it is who's behind the words being written. Also, God's omnipresent, he's everywhere(and everywhen) all at the same time. He's like McDonalds' that way.

Finally, a point of agreement. In fact, I think 'fallible' might be giving makind rather too much credit, desperately wicked as we are.

If we were discussing stereo instructions(which often seem to be translated from Japanese to English by someone who spoke only Swahili)this might be true. This is the Word of God, though, handed for the instruction and edification of mankind, He's not going to go through all that trouble to let Babel Fish translate 'filet mignon' as 'Happy Meal.'

Your point about the CEO may be valid in that he is dictating what he wants written to his secretary. However, you have to also remember that the secretary will read it back and the letter will be reviewed. There is no proof to date that any such review system existed for the word of God. It is taken at face value and assumed to be the final word, when indeed something may have been missing.

As for the translations... have you ever wondered just how many translations the Bible for example has gone through? How many "versions" of it exist?

After all, the OT, or rather the Tanakh was not compiled as a scripture in its entireity until 450BC(E); the final version done between 200 BC(E)-200 AD/CE. It was not written down immediately following divine inspiration or dictation, which negates your earlier comparison of a CEO dictating his memo to his secretary.
Lesseri
18-06-2008, 21:46
Urgh. Don't be silly. How can a fairytale character know about me?
Ashmoria
18-06-2008, 22:58
To answer the first question, Yes. Yes I am. To answer the second question, only in the sense that every Christian is expected to be, I make no particular special claim in that regard.

but that doesnt make any sense. if you arent a prophet, how is the passage referring to you?
Heinleinites
19-06-2008, 20:49
but that doesnt make any sense. if you arent a prophet, how is the passage referring to you?

My apologies for being unclear. When I said I made no special claim, I meant that I did not equate myself as being equal to Moses or Elijah or Jeremiah or Paul. In a larger sense, though, every Christian is regarded as a prophet, in that they are expected to bring the Word of the Lord to a lost and wicked world.