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Barack Obama is the first African American Presidential nominee and if elected, he will obviously be the First African American President.

Considering the amount of racism that still exists in this country, some people will see this as an affront to the so called "white man's nation".

So what do you think? If elected, will someone attempt to take him down and succeed?

Sure. But you are wrong, it's the black fringe groups that try to assassinate him.

They will be pissed when they can no longer blame 'The Man', when the man is another brother.

probably not.

the secret service really hates losing a president. they wont be slacking off.

probably not.

the secret service really hates losing a president. they wont be slacking off.

They didn't slack off with Reagan and he was nearly assassinated.

They didn't slack off with Reagan and he was nearly assassinated.

true

thats why its "probably not" and not "definitely not"

If nobody has been able to kill Bush yet, then I don't think Obama will have a problem.

God I hope not.

I doubt it. The Secret Service may be stupid(Way to keep the secret by putting it in your name, guys), but they're not so stupid that they'd fail to realise that a fair few people would not be best pleased with having one of those brown folks as president.

If he's assassinated, it won't be by a racist. Racism is overrated here in the US. there's not nearly as much of it as is generally believed.

If nobody has been able to kill Bush yet, then I don't think Obama will have a problem.It depends on how many weaknesses Obama has that we haven't seen yet, like bicycle riding, bramble, pretzels, cocaine, doors in Chinese Embassies, Segways, grenades in Tblisi ....

So what do you think? If elected, will someone attempt to take him down and succeed?

Nope. That's what Secret service are for.

If he is elected, it won't be in a year divisible by 20. So no.

George W. Bush has a good deal more to worry about. :D yes, I know that's a myth, meh.

If he's assassinated, it won't be by a racist. Racism is overrated here in the US. there's not nearly as much of it as is generally believed.
I'm going to disagree with that, the center for racist activities has just moved out of the south and into the isolated Rockies, there are a lot of racist compounds up towards Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

Nope. That's what Secret service are for.

Tell that to JFK ;)

Not if he chooses Clinton or Dick Cheney (sic!) as VP. Then he'll be kept a live artificially for a long time if need be :p

Tell that to JFK ;)Oh but that was an entirely different situation, you know the CIA were in on that.

I'm going to disagree with that, the center for racist activities has just moved out of the south and into the isolated Rockies, there are a lot of racist compounds up towards Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

All states that gave him vigourous winning margins in the primaries.
I was concerned about West Virginia but he answered the 21% race-based vote with aid following the flooding there. He didn't throw them under the train.

I like what Jackie Kennedy said after JFK was assassinated. She said that the guy who killed him was determined to do what he did, and even if we completely banned guns in this country he'd have still gotten him. With whackjobs like that, there's nothing you can do except know they're out there, and keep a weather eye out for them. I've seen Senator Obama's Secret Security detail and they're good. Watch the video of him meeting-and-greeting people after the rallies; they're all around him, looking in all directions.

They have hearts, too; both times I've seen him in person, I nodded, smiled and thanked them for their work. The head guy knows me on sight and briefly smiles and nods back, then goes back to having our guy's back.

That aside...Barack's followers are having his back, too. An assassin would have to be so insane as to be non-functional to take a shot at him at a rally or appearance. The crowd would fucking DESTROY him as soon as he took the weapon out. There wouldn't be anything left for the Secret Service to tackle, never mind cuff.

I would suspect it would depend more on who he chooses as VP

If its some democratic party non-entity, then he'll be pretty safe, however if its hilary, I'd give him 2 yrs tops before someone takes a pot shot.:sniper:..and while there will never be a trail back to her, you can be sure it was her because she'd have the most to gain. ;)

El-Presidente Boris


<<,getting the assasination conspiracy theories in before the event :D

He'll be fine once the technology to upgrade him is in place and we see the rise of Obamatron.

If he is elected, it won't be in a year divisible by 20. So no.

George W. Bush has a good deal more to worry about. :D yes, I know that's a myth, meh.

I have to agree, although that does not necessarily mean that Obama couldn't die in office; there was a President in the 1850s who died, in spite of being elected in a year not divisible by 20.

Tell that to JFK

JFK was a victim of the Curse of Tecumseh

I have to agree, although that does not necessarily mean that Obama couldn't die in office; there was a President in the 1850s who died, in spite of being elected in a year not divisible by 20.



JFK was a victim of the Curse of Tecumseh

I thought it was called the Curse of Tippecanoe (after William Henry Harrison)? In respose to the OP, unfortunately it's a real possibility. White Supremacists are not an urban legend; they're real and I can imagine one of them trying something. I pray not, but I may very well spend four years holding my breath every time he makes a public appearance.

EDIT: wiki says it's called both.

If he is elected, it won't be in a year divisible by 20. So no.

George W. Bush has a good deal more to worry about. :D yes, I know that's a myth, meh.

Does this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_president) count?

Not if he chooses Clinton or Dick Cheney (sic!) as VP. Then he'll be kept a live artificially for a long time if need be :p

Hehe

George W. Bush has a good deal more to worry about. :D yes, I know that's a myth, meh.
Worry implies awareness.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2008/Bush-Warns-Economy15mar08.jpg

I can only hope no, certainly not before the election because Lord knows we'll have the usual idiots blaming Hillary Clinton and her 'lust for power™'.

Other than that, would it be immoral to place money on an assassination attempt on Barack Obama, would it even be illegal?

Anyone?

Other than that, would it be immoral to place money on an assassination attempt on Barack Obama, would it even be illegal?

Anyone?

No, albeit highly unethical.

I think he could well die in office, at the hands of the most villainous assassin of them all: structural instability.

I think he could well die in office, at the hands of the most villainous assassin of them all: structural instability.

That would be quite the news story.

If nobody has been able to kill Bush yet, then I don't think Obama will have a problem.

You have to look at who truly has "hate" for Bush. It isn't your typical gun toting radical.

I thought it was called the Curse of Tippecanoe (after William Henry Harrison)? In respose to the OP, unfortunately it's a real possibility. White Supremacists are not an urban legend; they're real and I can imagine one of them trying something. I pray not, but I may very well spend four years holding my breath every time he makes a public appearance.

EDIT: wiki says it's called both.


I don't think the "White Supremacists" movement could get a chance. They will be watched like a over zealous religious group. I could see some arrests being made on some plots. I think if it did happen it would be from a black person claiming Obama has sold out his race or he was acting to white.

You have to look at who truly has "hate" for Bush. It isn't your typical gun toting radical.

Indeed, vegetarian hippies might slap him with a stick of celery but you need to get fairly close for that.

Didn't someone throw an egg at him, I think they were chastised by friends for harming baby chickens.

No, albeit highly unethical.

Do you know this or are you just guessing?

I seem to remember something about betting on the assassination of the president but, the fact is, I'm just not going to research it.

Indeed, vegetarian hippies might slap him with a stick of celery but you need to get fairly close for that.

Didn't someone throw an egg at him, I think they were chastised by friends for harming baby chickens.

I thought they got him with a pie in his first run. Or maybe they tried but were tackled by the secret service. Anyways the point is that the majority that hate him are in fact pussies that won't do anything about it.

I don't think there is much of a chance. With the amount of security that would be around him, it would take a lot more than a guy with a high powered rifle. It's possible but not plausible.

Also, JFK was over 40 years ago, a lot has has changed since then, same with the Reagan attempt.

I don't think there is much of a chance. With the amount of security that would be around him, it would take a lot more than a guy with a high powered rifle. It's possible but not plausible.

Also, JFK was over 40 years ago, a lot has has changed since then, same with the Reagan attempt.

I'd go with an exploding baby, no one ever suspects an exploding baby and politicians are suckers for them.

There may be attempts, but I doubt any will succeed. I predict that, if elected, he will be a one-term President, though.

I fear he won't make it to the election.

Anyways the point is that the majority that hate him are in fact pussies that won't do anything about it.90% of statistics are made up on the spot.

You have to look at who truly has "hate" for Bush. It isn't your typical gun toting radical.
Or typical ignorant inbred hick. Don't want to hurt a cousin.

yes, but it won't be like people think... i have one work for you all... remember it...Space Pirates

okay that's technically two words but...


beware the heavens...


okay now we're up to between 3 and 5 (if you count both warnings)...

never the less that's what the true threat is... archive this thread for when the attack and my prophetic powers are confirmed

A depressing and distasteful topic, just like its McCain equivellant.

Let's just pray it doesn't happen, for natural or unnatural causes. America needs a good President, and Obama's family need their husband and father.

Let's just pray it doesn't happen, for natural or unnatural causes. America needs a good President, and Obama's family need their husband and father.*bows*

Nope. That's what Secret service are for.

Never underestimate the power of a high powered precision sniper rifle with a powerful scope.

*waits for Secret Service and CIA to come to house*

Dubya is not only the least popular person to (supposedly) be elected president, but he's also unable to perform very simple activities like EATING PRETZELS. Yet he's still alive and healthy.

CONCLUSION: If an induhvidual like Dubya can make it through his term, so can Obama.

Never underestimate the power of a high powered precision sniper rifle with a powerful scope.

*waits for Secret Service and CIA to come to house*

You're just saying that so you can ambush them and steal their weapons and ID. :p

Dubya is not only the least popular person to (supposedly) be elected president, but he's also unable to perform very simple activities like EATING PRETZELS. Yet he's still alive and healthy.

CONCLUSION: If an induhvidual like Dubya can make it through his term, so can Obama.

I dunno. I mean look at Abe Lincoln, Gandhi, JFK, RFK, Jesus. All very intelligent people, and they all got assassinated. While I may not agree with Obama policies or what he would do as President, he is a very intelligence man. So....I would be worried if I was him.

CONCLUSION: If an induhvidual like Dubya can make it through his term, so can Obama.Frodo failed ... Bush has the ring.

You're just saying that so you can ambush them and steal their weapons and ID. :p

The beauty of a sniper rifle is that you don't need the ID. *nod*

I dunno. I mean look at Abe Lincoln, Gandhi, JFK, RFK, Jesus. All very intelligent people, and they all got assassinated. While I may not agree with Obama policies or what he would do as President, he is a very intelligence man. So....I would be worried if I was him.

My world ended when I saw the bullets rain down on Jesus's motorcade.

I dunno. I mean look at Abe Lincoln, Gandhi, JFK, RFK, Jesus.

Jesus wasn't assassinated. He was sentenced to death.

I'm sure Hillary is working on something to get rid of him before the upcoming election.

Jesus wasn't assassinated. He was sentenced to death.

So you're some sort of Roman-lover....?

Not if he chooses Clinton or Dick Cheney (sic!) as VP. Then he'll be kept a live artificially for a long time if need be :p

Being kept alive artificially still means the role would go the the VP.

I'm going to disagree with that, the center for racist activities has just moved out of the south and into the isolated Rockies, there are a lot of racist compounds up towards Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

The Aryan Nations compound near Coeur d'Alene, ID was taken care of years ago. I've lived in the northwest, and I met only one racist - a 70-something man who could hardly walk. Not exactly a threat. There are a fair number of minorities there, too, and they don't live in fear of being dragged from their homes and hanged. The fact of the matter is that violent racism is nearly dead. Yes, some think blacks and Mexicans are subhuman, but they are a very tiny minority even in the "bastion of racism". Wait a minute.... Since they're a minority now, do they get special rights?

Oh, and I think ID and MT both went to Obama. I guess they hate women more than blacks up there. :P

The Aryan Nations compound near Coeur d'Alene, ID was taken care of years ago. I've lived in the northwest, and I met only one racist - a 70-something man who could hardly walk. Not exactly a threat. There are a fair number of minorities there, too, and they don't live in fear of being dragged from their homes and hanged. The fact of the matter is that violent racism is nearly dead. Yes, some think blacks and Mexicans are subhuman, but they are a very tiny minority even in the "bastion of racism". Wait a minute.... Since they're a minority now, do they get special rights?

Oh, and I think ID and MT both went to Obama. I guess they hate women more than blacks up there. :P

Blacks commit almost half the murders in the US - far out of proportion to their numbers. And almost all of their victims are - - other blacks.

If white people were killing blacks at that rate in the US, there would be an uproar, and claims of genocide.

The mental picture that people have of a group of white men riding on horses wearing bedsheets is a very, very old one - but one that people will constantly bring up as an example of "current" racism that is "rampant" in some isolated area in America. The problem is, the real threat that blacks face is their own group.

If you had to walk outside, and fear most the people who were the most like you, that would be a twisted world indeed.


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/wuvc01.txt

* Firearm violence rates for blacks age 12 or older (8.4
per 1,000 blacks) were 40% higher than rates for Hispanics
(6.0)

200% higher than rates for whites (2.8 per
1,000).

* Blacks were about 9 times more likely than whites to be
murdered with a firearm.

* On average black victims of firearm violence were 3
years younger than white victims -- 29 versus 32.

* From 1993 through 2001 blacks accounted for 46% of
homicide victims and 54% of victims of firearm homicide but
12% of the U.S. population.

So you're some sort of Roman-lover....?

:confused:

Didn't someone throw an egg at him
Many eggs. His car was thoroughly splattered during the "inauguration" parade. Michael Moore had the footage in "Fahrenheit 911".

Other than that, would it be immoral to place money on an assassination attempt on Barack Obama, would it even be illegal?

Anyone?
Wouldn't be illegal unless you were indulging in insider trading. Which, for this kind of thing, is illegal regardless :p