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So I'm watching Law and Order: SVU, and here's the interesting question:

Can a woman (or several women, in this case) rape a man?

Yes. Why couldn't they rape a man?

So I'm watching Law and Order: SVU, and here's the interesting question:

Can a woman (or several women, in this case) rape a man?

It´s possible.

Of course.

Yes. Why couldn't they rape a man?

Blah blah, not strong enough, blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault, blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.

The specific case in the episode is that three women waved a letter-opener at a male stripper at a party, hand-cuffed him down, and fellated him (I think, didn't see the whole ep), and "sodomized" him which I believe involved a tongue and or fingers, but I don't recall exactly.

The end of the ep ruled the woman primarily responsible innocent of rape, sodomy, and unlawfully holding a person against his or her will, but guilty of assault. She had requested a "private dance" from the stripper, and threw money at him when she was done doing what she did, meaning she "paid for his services".

Some jurisdictions (like those which follow the model penal code) still, unfortunatly, define rape as unconsensual vaginal penitration, and as such, women can not, by legal definition, rape a man.

This, however, as an outdated and minority jurisdictional framework, and the majority defines rape as unconsensual sexual intercourse or penetration. And in that regard, a woman can most certainly rape a man.

Blah blah, not strong enough,

Because averages apply to individuals, and strength matters immensely when one party is, say, holding a gun?

blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault,

Those do exist in some places. They are silly.

blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.

...only if you have a really, really, really uncreative mind.

Blah blah, not strong enough, blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault, blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.


Again it depends. Some jurisdictions define rape as unconsensual penitration of a vagina, in which case only a woman can be raped. Some define as unconsensual penitration by a penis, in which case only a man can rape.

But most jurisdictions define rape as unconsensual sexual conduct or penitration, by anyone.

Some jurisdictions (like those which follow the model penal code) still, unfortunatly, define rape as unconsensual vaginal penitration, and as such, women can not, by legal definition, rape a man.

This, however, as an outdated and minority jurisdictional framework, and the majority defines rape as unconsensual sexual intercourse or penetration. And in that regard, a woman can most certainly rape a man.

A man can still press charges for sexual assault though right? I mean unwanted sexual abuse is not exactly rape........legally right?

As per the OP yes, men can be raped, they can be sexually abused and assaulted, and no, it's not funny.

Strap-on. Pegging. Fingers; fist... Taking your pick. Entirely possible to do the penetration bit.

Blah blah, not strong enough, blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault, blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.

The specific case in the episode is that three women waved a letter-opener at a male stripper at a party, hand-cuffed him down, and fellated him (I think, didn't see the whole ep), and "sodomized" him which I believe involved a tongue and or fingers, but I don't recall exactly.

The end of the ep ruled the woman primarily responsible innocent of rape, sodomy, and unlawfully holding a person against his or her will, but guilty of assault. She had requested a "private dance" from the stripper, and threw money at him when she was done doing what she did, meaning she "paid for his services".

That's right, I saw this episode a few weeks ago myself. She also claimed that she as a woman was to weak to rape a man (yeah there is only equality in the law when it suits them). The whole bit about it being a stripper and paying them for a private dance meant that they were allowed to have sex with him would be a joke if this really happened, I can tell you this if I paid for a private dance from a stripper and then went and raped her I would be placed in jail for a long long time. I think in this episode the ADA (I have forgotten her name) was advised not to push this hard because such a monumental case where women are raping a man and would set a precedent it was ill-advised to do so in this case as he was a stripper and so might set the wrong precedent if he lost.

Blah blah, not strong enough, blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault, blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.

The specific case in the episode is that three women waved a letter-opener at a male stripper at a party, hand-cuffed him down, and fellated him (I think, didn't see the whole ep), and "sodomized" him which I believe involved a tongue and or fingers, but I don't recall exactly.

The end of the ep ruled the woman primarily responsible innocent of rape, sodomy, and unlawfully holding a person against his or her will, but guilty of assault. She had requested a "private dance" from the stripper, and threw money at him when she was done doing what she did, meaning she "paid for his services".

Rhynoldo, if you already ¨knew¨ the silly answer to your OP, why waste our time asking?

This link clearly states that rape isn´t a gender specific crime, it can also be committed by women towards men.
RAPE - The carnal knowledge of a woman by a man (or vice versa) forcibly and unlawfully against her will. In order to ascertain precisely the nature of this offence, this definition will be analysed.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/q097.htm

So I'm watching Law and Order: SVU, and here's the interesting question:

Can a woman (or several women, in this case) rape a man?

well they can...but depending on what the women look like, who'd complain?

I mean if it was like a group of ugly ass bitchs then i'd run but really if a man is held down and raped by a group of ugly ass bitchs then either those chicks were former military or that guy is a sad pussy (Not to sound like a sexist but if women were raping a man you have to understand the strange assortment of adrenaline that would be running, he'd be horny and mad and scared and maybe in pain all at the same time =P)

well they can...but depending on what the women look like, who'd complain?

The person being raped, by the very definition of rape.

Blah blah, not strong enough, blah blah there are laws on the books (apparently) that say (legally) only a man can rape, while women assault, blah blah rape involves penetration, which a woman can't do.

The specific case in the episode is that three women waved a letter-opener at a male stripper at a party, hand-cuffed him down, and fellated him (I think, didn't see the whole ep), and "sodomized" him which I believe involved a tongue and or fingers, but I don't recall exactly.

The end of the ep ruled the woman primarily responsible innocent of rape, sodomy, and unlawfully holding a person against his or her will, but guilty of assault. She had requested a "private dance" from the stripper, and threw money at him when she was done doing what she did, meaning she "paid for his services".

That's pretty bad. Do that to a female stripper then try to argue that it wasn't sexual assault.

I recall a case here in Edinburgh about a woman who performed oral sex on a man sleeping on a sofa. She was successfully prosecuted for sexual ssault.

The person being raped, by the very definition of rape.

There are a lot of guys who don't like things to go up their asses. I imagine that a woman, no matter how hot, sticking something up a guy's ass who didn't want something in there, would be raping him, and he wouldn't enjoy it.

There are a lot of guys who don't like things to go up their asses. I imagine that a woman, no matter how hot, sticking something up a guy's ass who didn't want something in there, would be raping him, and he wouldn't enjoy it.

It wouldn't matter if they did like things stuck up there, even if they did and they said no then it would still be rape.

Got to post this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nF4kfWyms)

A man can still press charges for sexual assault though right? I mean unwanted sexual abuse is not exactly rape........legally right?

That...again, depends. Some jurisdicitions there is no such thing as "sexual assault", with rape and sexual assault being effectively the same thing. At least one jurisdiction (I think Michigan) has no "rape" law, just a "criminal sexual conduct" law with varying degree of offenses depending on if force is used etc.

It's certainly a battery thought.

It wouldn't matter if they did like things stuck up there, even if they did and they said no then it would still be rape.

It was in response to the suggestion that a guy would like being "raped" by a woman. The point was that there are many things a woman can do to a guy that he wouldn't like done to him consensually, much less forcibly.

Rhynoldo, if you already ¨knew¨ the silly answer to your OP, why waste our time asking?

This link clearly states that rape isn´t a gender specific crime, it can also be committed by women towards men.
RAPE - The carnal knowledge of a woman by a man (or vice versa) forcibly and unlawfully against her will. In order to ascertain precisely the nature of this offence, this definition will be analysed.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/q097.htm

actually that definition isn't really all that right, for a few reasons:

1) there is no universal definition of rape in american law

2) the element of force need not be necessary to substantiate rape.

actually that definition isn't really all that right, for a few reasons:

1) there is no universal definition of rape in american law

2) the element of force need not be necessary to substantiate rape.

Be that as it may, sexual assaults and rape can be committed by both genders.

Be that as it may, sexual assaults and rape can be committed by both genders.

that, again, depends on where you are.

http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/accessories/22668_Broomstick.jpg
So yes, it's possible!

Got to post this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nF4kfWyms)
heheh... so poorly done, yet so amusing... like early years of Red Vs Blue or something

It´s possible.

So when can you start?

So when can you start?

Let me recheck my male raping schedule.

But for you, anytime.;)

So I'm watching Law and Order: SVU, and here's the interesting question:

Can a woman (or several women, in this case) rape a man?

Answer = yes.

well they can...but depending on what the women look like, who'd complain?

I mean if it was like a group of ugly ass bitchs then i'd run but really if a man is held down and raped by a group of ugly ass bitchs then either those chicks were former military or that guy is a sad pussy (Not to sound like a sexist but if women were raping a man you have to understand the strange assortment of adrenaline that would be running, he'd be horny and mad and scared and maybe in pain all at the same time =P)

... Umm, it's not rape if you say yes.

And it's your childish perspective that's the problem with this issue. The notion than men love sex therefore would like getting raped is the most ridiculous, sexist concept. The thing about rape is that it's rape, ie non-consensual and unwanted. If someone had their way with you and you didn't want them to, you wouldn't be happy, even if she was hot.

Can a woman (or several women, in this case) rape a man?
Yes.

that, again, depends on where you are.

I think that that's sexist then. To me, rape is rape, regardless of gender.