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Nationstates gun owners roll call

Antebellum South
11-06-2008, 13:07
I just purchased my first firearm, a 9mm Browning Hi-Power, built in 1977, and still in new condition (never been fired). *Sigh* It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Pistol_Browning_HP_american.jpg

My Hi-Power is labeled "Browning Arms Company Morgan, Utah and Montreal, PQ, Made in Belgium"

So what guns do y'all own? Post specs and pics here!
Rambhutan
11-06-2008, 13:10
It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.


This is why I think all gun nuts are weird
Philosopy
11-06-2008, 13:10
It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.

Well, you're more honest about that than most gun nuts.
Rambhutan
11-06-2008, 13:13
Oh, I would never actually have sex with my gun. It would cause rust :D

Too late to retract it now...
Antebellum South
11-06-2008, 13:13
Oh, I would never actually have sex with my gun. It would cause rust :D
Big Jim P
11-06-2008, 13:15
Oh, I would never actually have sex with my gun. It would cause rust :D

On you, or the gun?:D
Hurdegaryp
11-06-2008, 13:17
A gun that's over thirty years old and still is in mint condition, eh? I guess that's pretty rare. Are you planning to change that rather unique situation? Not that I'm planning to get myself some firepower, but in case I became the owner of a gun, I would like to know if you could actually hit something with it. You know, the broad side of a barn, for example.
greed and death
11-06-2008, 13:17
I own a gun but don't care to mention which one.
Giedi-Prime
11-06-2008, 13:18
M-1 Garand, all original equipment inc. sling, paratroopers case, two patterns of bayonets, and bandoliers of ammo.

Iver Johnson Champion .410 shotgun. Single-shot, break-open action. My brother killed his first deer with this gun.

Winchester Model 1894 in .30-30 Winchester. Lever action rifle, this is the one you see in all the old westerns.
Antebellum South
11-06-2008, 13:18
Too late to retract it now...

I didn't retract it:cool:

On you, or the gun?:D

The gun
Lapse
11-06-2008, 13:20
now this, is a sexy gun=>
http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/transportation/images/Space%20Page/300-068.jpg
It is pink and holds up to 150mL of water! Can shoot about 2.5 metres, with a muzzle velocity of about 2.5m/s

Minimal kick back, and whats more, because of it's design, I'm not required to have a license for it!
Hurdegaryp
11-06-2008, 13:21
Lapse's contribution to this thread reminds me of my soft spot for super soakers...
The Smiling Frogs
11-06-2008, 13:26
I own a great many as does almost everyone around me. Oddly, my community has a very low crime rate...

Anyway, my favorite is a custom left-handed bolt action 7mm Mag that I use for Elk and Moose. One end kills, the other maims.

My second favorite is a William Ford SXS 10 gauge shotgun with Damascus patterns on the barrel. Very pretty and old. Excellent for Goose, Ducks, and home invaders.

Another fav is my 300 Savage lever action. Good for Deer in heavy brush. I must have shoot over 25 Bucks with that one.

I have 2 M-1 Garand's that I use for competition. A very fine weapon, just watch out for the M-1 thumb!
[NS:]Zenspoliticalrants
11-06-2008, 13:26
3 - HK P7M13 in 9mm, .40 and .45
Weatherby Mark V .300 Weatherby Magnum
Remington 11-87SP 12 Guage
Remington Model 7 7mm-08
Antebellum South
11-06-2008, 13:26
A gun that's over thirty years old and still is in mint condition, eh? I guess that's pretty rare. Are you planning to change that rather unique situation? Not that I'm planning to get myself some firepower, but in case I became the owner of a gun, I would like to know if you could actually hit something with it. You know, the broad side of a barn, for example.

Yeah, I plan to give it a spin at the firing range. I'll let you know how it turns out. As long as a gun is maintained in good condition and greased with plenty of motor oil while in storage, any number of years can pass and it should still be able to fire quality shots as if were just manufactured yesterday.
PelecanusQuicks
11-06-2008, 13:26
I once owned a lovely chrome plated pearl handle Baby Rossi. It fit neatly in my palm.

When my hubby was fast becoming my ex-hubby he snagged it. I couldn't exactly report it since it wasn't registered to begin with. :rolleyes:

I haven't owned a gun since then.

Oh and I will add...someday I will own a Kentucky Long Rifle. =)
Zowali
11-06-2008, 13:42
I'm the proud owner of a Ruger 10/.22 carbine, and a Romanian WASR-10(civilian AK47).

My father owns a Para Ordnance 1911C, a Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag, a 10/.22 carbine, a Mossberg M500, a .22 caliber revolver, a .32 caliber revolver, a .22 pistol by Beretta, an AR15 by Olympic Arms, and a bolt-action rifle in .22. He also has half of a 20 gauge bolt action shotgun(still haven't replaced the broken stock)

My brother owns a 10/.22 carbine and a Walther G22, which is a .22 caliber bullpup carbine.

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v154/187/2/745155525/n745155525_1615445_6479.jpg

That's my Natasha. Got six magazines for her and two M1958 bayonets, one of which I'm going to put a custom set of grips on.
Neo Bretonnia
11-06-2008, 13:52
I had to sell off my collection due to money troubles a couple of years ago, but I had:

-A Colt M1911A1 Government model .45ACP with black wraparound grip.
-A Maadi MAK 7.62mm semi auto with the shoulder strap (But this was during the assault weapon ban so it had the weird stock with the thumbhole and no frills on the barrel.)
-A Bushmaster AR-15 that I built myself with 20" fluted heavy barrel (Also during the ban so I couldn't put any cool accessories on the barrel. since I had the pistol grip.)
-A flintlock rifle with dual triggers

*sigh* I hope to start a new collection soon.
Conserative Morality
11-06-2008, 14:47
Ya don't need a license for a crossbow suckas! *Loads crossbow. Biiiiiig smile*
The_pantless_hero
11-06-2008, 14:58
Ya don't need a license for a crossbow suckas! *Loads crossbow. Biiiiiig smile*

And they are a simple weapon so anyone can use them (except for hand and repeating crossbows which are exotic).


>_>
Conserative Morality
11-06-2008, 15:03
And they are a simple weapon so anyone can use them (except for hand and repeating crossbows which are exotic).


>_>

I sense a disturbence in NSG... I think we have a D&D fan :p .
Myrmidonisia
11-06-2008, 15:07
Yeah, I plan to give it a spin at the firing range. I'll let you know how it turns out. As long as a gun is maintained in good condition and greased with plenty of motor oil while in storage, any number of years can pass and it should still be able to fire quality shots as if were just manufactured yesterday.
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.
Rambhutan
11-06-2008, 15:08
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.

Given Antebellum South's stated feelings, probably meant KY Jelly...
Trade Orginizations
11-06-2008, 15:20
.22 cal Marlin long rifle
.270 cal Savage Firearms G111
12 Gauge New England Firearms Shotgun
45/70 Craig/Jorgensen model 1898
Hotwife
11-06-2008, 15:40
CZ 452 FS, in 22LR
CZ 452 Scout (three of them, for the kids) in 22LR
DPMS AR-15 with pink stock for my daughter
Four RRA AR-15 (entry weapon, three bull barrel variants)
Four LWRC AR-15 (two entry weapon variants, suppressed, and two bull barrel variants)
Springfield Armory M1A with VLTOR stock and suppressor
Small pile of pistols (suppressed Glock, several 1911 variants, two Browning .22 pistols)
Rebarreled Rem 700 PSS (police sniper) rifle in .308, with suppressor

Reloading equipment for 9mm, .45 ACP, .223, and .308.
Conserative Morality
11-06-2008, 15:50
CZ 452 FS, in 22LR
CZ 452 Scout (three of them, for the kids) in 22LR
DPMS AR-15 with pink stock for my daughter
Four RRA AR-15 (entry weapon, three bull barrel variants)
Four LWRC AR-15 (two entry weapon variants, suppressed, and two bull barrel variants)
Springfield Armory M1A with VLTOR stock and suppressor
Small pile of pistols (suppressed Glock, several 1911 variants, two Browning .22 pistols)
Rebarreled Rem 700 PSS (police sniper) rifle in .308, with suppressor

Reloading equipment for 9mm, .45 ACP, .223, and .308.

Holy crap!!! Planning to lead a rebellion or something?!?
Call to power
11-06-2008, 16:17
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.

I've never had any trouble with WD-40 myself even if you get a horrible muck buildup every so often
The Smiling Frogs
11-06-2008, 16:18
I sense a disturbence in NSG... I think we have a D&D fan :p .

Good enough for the Drow, good enough for me.
Kecibukia
11-06-2008, 17:51
RIA 1911-A1
Makarov 9mm
Kel-Tec P32
Marlin 60
Marlin 81
Norinco SKS
Norinco 12 Ga dbl barrel
Tompson 1927A1
SAR-1 (AK clone)
2 K98 carbines
NDM-86 Dragunov
Neesika
11-06-2008, 17:57
Got guns, they go bang.

22, 30.06, 30-30. Used only for hunting, who gives a fuck about specs, they're just tools, not something you need to rub your genitals up against.
Hotwife
11-06-2008, 18:04
Holy crap!!! Planning to lead a rebellion or something?!?

Hardly. Everyone in my family shoots (myself, my wife, and three children).

As a matter of reference, most of my closest friends have many more weapons than I do.
Upper Emden
11-06-2008, 18:12
I currently own a Henry Level action .22.

Looking to get my wife a .25 pistol and me either a .380 or a 9mm.

Then down the road I would like to get another Henry, maybe a .17HMR.

:sniper:
The South Islands
11-06-2008, 18:36
Mosin-Nangat 91/30, Tula Armory, 1942.

Still a beaut after 50 years of killing fascists. It's one of the reasons that I love surplus arms. There's so much history in that formation of metal and wood in your hands. If only guns could talk.

Oh, and I also have a Beretta model 1935 handed down to me from my grandfather. He got it for a carton of cigarettes when he was stationed in Italy with the Navy during the occupation.

I'm looking at purchasing another pistol soon. I've had my sights set on a few 1911 variants I saw at the local gun store.
Neesika
11-06-2008, 19:41
Mosin-Nangat 91/30, Tula Armory, 1942.

Still a beaut after 50 years of killing fascists. It's one of the reasons that I love surplus arms. There's so much history in that formation of metal and wood in your hands. If only guns could talk. Totally d00d. Nothing turns me on more than holding an implement of death. Just thinking about the lives that thing has taken, the blood spilled, the brains raining all around...gets me so, fucking, hot. *licks barrel*
Conserative Morality
11-06-2008, 19:51
Totally d00d. Nothing turns me on more than holding an implement of death. Just thinking about the lives that thing has taken, the blood spilled, the brains raining all around...gets me so, fucking, hot. *licks barrel*

:rolleyes:

I take it that you don't like history either? "ewww... So much death! *Throws away history book allows history to repeat itself*"

He was talking about the history BEHIND the gun.
Neesika
11-06-2008, 19:53
oh yesssssssss

*sticks gun in 'holster'*
Zilam
11-06-2008, 20:16
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/randomrandomv2033.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/Me/DCFC0079.jpg

They are two diff guns.
Zilam
11-06-2008, 20:17
Also, notice the dirty socks in the corner. I am sure they count as weapons as well. :p
Kecibukia
11-06-2008, 20:54
Also, notice the dirty socks in the corner. I am sure they count as weapons as well. :p

WMD's. You do realize those are banned under the Geneva Convention, right? The proper authorities have been contacted.
Gun Manufacturers
11-06-2008, 21:09
I just purchased my first firearm, a 9mm Browning Hi-Power, built in 1977, and still in new condition (never been fired). *Sigh* It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Pistol_Browning_HP_american.jpg

My Hi-Power is labeled "Browning Arms Company Morgan, Utah and Montreal, PQ, Made in Belgium"

So what guns do y'all own? Post specs and pics here!

Here's a pic of my mouse gun (RRA lower with 16" Del-Ton post ban upper).

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1135/1000045ur3.jpg

The checkerboard pattern on the stock is from the case I was storing it in, not from any sort of paint. It easily wiped off.
Renner20
11-06-2008, 21:10
Just an old AYA No.2 side-by-side shotgun
Santiago I
11-06-2008, 21:11
Im not legally entitled to have a gun.... :( :( :(

fucking psychiatric restrictions on guns

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Gun Manufacturers
11-06-2008, 21:13
I own a great many as does almost everyone around me. Oddly, my community has a very low crime rate...

Anyway, my favorite is a custom left-handed bolt action 7mm Mag that I use for Elk and Moose. One end kills, the other maims.

My second favorite is a William Ford SXS 10 gauge shotgun with Damascus patterns on the barrel. Very pretty and old. Excellent for Goose, Ducks, and home invaders.

Another fav is my 300 Savage lever action. Good for Deer in heavy brush. I must have shoot over 25 Bucks with that one.

I have 2 M-1 Garand's that I use for competition. A very fine weapon, just watch out for the M-1 thumb!

I thought the only way you could get M-1 thumb is if you're loading the clip into the receiver wrong. Is that true, or is that an excuse people use when they're not paying attention?
Gun Manufacturers
11-06-2008, 21:16
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.

Or cosmoline.
Yootopia
11-06-2008, 21:18
http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/images/spud800.jpg
Cheap ammunition at about £1 for a year's worth. Good times.
Clearview
11-06-2008, 21:20
Like my Springfield Armory .45 XD 5" Tactical. Not a GUN NUT thank you. Just exercisng a right which I'm glad to have.

http://http://www.springfield-armory.com/
Chumblywumbly
11-06-2008, 21:21
Cheap ammunition at about £1 for a year's worth. Good times.
They sting tae fuck!
Gun Manufacturers
11-06-2008, 21:26
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/randomrandomv2033.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/Me/DCFC0079.jpg

They are two diff guns.

That first one, is that an Accuracy International rifle, or an M-700 action in an AICS stock? And is that second one a black powder rifle?
Myrmidonisia
11-06-2008, 21:41
Or cosmoline.
I think of that as depot level stuff. For me to put a gun into storage at my house, I would be content with CLP, Breakfree, or anything that has a little viscosity and won't dry out.
Intestinal fluids
11-06-2008, 21:41
http://www.enemyforces.com/firearms/glock17.jpg


Glock 17 9mm
Kecibukia
11-06-2008, 21:58
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.

For short term storage, BreakFree Collector is great. Anything over a few years and I'ld go w/ Cosmoline.
The Smiling Frogs
11-06-2008, 22:06
I thought the only way you could get M-1 thumb is if you're loading the clip into the receiver wrong. Is that true, or is that an excuse people use when they're not paying attention?

Both. But being left-handed with a right-handed gun makes the loading of an M-1 that much harder. Not that it has ever happened to me but my guess is that I pay more attention than the right-handers.
Kecibukia
11-06-2008, 22:10
Both. But being left-handed with a right-handed gun makes the loading of an M-1 that much harder. Not that it has ever happened to me but my guess is that I pay more attention than the right-handers.

Huh? What were you saying?
The South Islands
11-06-2008, 23:00
oh yesssssssss

*sticks gun in 'holster'*

Did you came?

But really, I was talking about the history of the firearm. Such old rifles are historical artifacts. Imagine how many times it has fired in anger, imagine the blood spilled in front of it and behind it. To me, the history of a historical firearm is one of it's big draws. I wish every surplus gun came with some sort of a report telling the buyer where it's been, who owned it, and what its done.
Bubabalu
11-06-2008, 23:39
I have a small collection of firearms.

Long guns
AR-15 flat top 5.56mm
AR-180B 5.56mm
Arsenal SLR AK 7.62mm x 39
FN-49 8mm
Imbel (Brazilian FN-FAL)
M-1 Garand 30-06
Russian SKS 7.62 x 39
M-1 carbine

Shotguns
Franchi LAW 12 semi auto
Beretta 112 ga semi auto, law enforcment model

Hanguns
Smith Wesson Model 64 .38 (my original duty revolver)
Glock 17 9mm (my first pd auto)
Glock 21 .45
Colt Combat Commander .45
Manurhin P-1 (former West German PD)

and one big safe with fireproofing liners.
Antebellum South
12-06-2008, 00:37
Does this sound wrong to anyone else? I would worry about the detergents in motor oil having unexpected effects on the finish. Better to use gun oil or BreakFree.

You're absolutely right, I should not have used the term "Motor oil". I don't know why I wrote it, I was in a rush I guess, and used it like a catch all term for machine lubricant. I apologize.
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 01:36
Both. But being left-handed with a right-handed gun makes the loading of an M-1 that much harder. Not that it has ever happened to me but my guess is that I pay more attention than the right-handers.

Well, I'm glad to hear that you, being left handed, haven't yet gotten M-1 thumb. That means that it'd be possible for me to avoid it (I'm left handed, too). Now all I need is to get a Garand. :)
Nerotika
12-06-2008, 01:41
well for all you gun nuts I need a little info...im looking to purchasing a gun but the process im not entirly sure of. Im aware of my local laws but the regulations for all weapons is the thing I know nothing about, such as how I get a permit for my weapon (Do I buy the gun and take it to get a permit or do I have to apply for a permit before I can get the gun...)

Any info would help.
Marrakech II
12-06-2008, 01:59
I am a collector myself. I could field a platoon with assault rifles and enough ammunition to hold out for awhile.
Marrakech II
12-06-2008, 02:01
well for all you gun nuts I need a little info...im looking to purchasing a gun but the process im not entirly sure of. Im aware of my local laws but the regulations for all weapons is the thing I know nothing about, such as how I get a permit for my weapon (Do I buy the gun and take it to get a permit or do I have to apply for a permit before I can get the gun...)

Any info would help.

If you were purchasing an assault rifle you would go and buy it. Then you fill out all the necessary paperwork. Wait a bit and then the call you to come and pick up your new gun. Provided you clear the FBI background check.
Marrakech II
12-06-2008, 02:02
You're absolutely right, I should not have used the term "Motor oil". I don't know why I wrote it, I was in a rush I guess, and used it like a catch all term for machine lubricant. I apologize.

You just broke Gun Nut rule number #8 but who's keeping track.... ;)
Andaluciae
12-06-2008, 02:04
Model 17 Springfield Rifle, .22 Caliber.

It was my Grandfathers, his 13th birthday gift. Helped feed his family during the depression. Only gun that you could truly "pry from my cold dead hands".
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 02:27
well for all you gun nuts I need a little info...im looking to purchasing a gun but the process im not entirly sure of. Im aware of my local laws but the regulations for all weapons is the thing I know nothing about, such as how I get a permit for my weapon (Do I buy the gun and take it to get a permit or do I have to apply for a permit before I can get the gun...)

Any info would help.
I used to recommend www.packing.org, but that doesn't exist. Try http://www.handgunlaw.us to get an idea of what your local laws require.
Zowali
12-06-2008, 02:30
Model 17 Springfield Rifle, .22 Caliber.

It was my Grandfathers, his 13th birthday gift. Helped feed his family during the depression. Only gun that you could truly "pry from my cold dead hands".

Wow, I read that wrong the first time. I read "it helped him through his depression" and was like 'seriously?'

Anyway, Nerotika, what gun are you looking into?

A handgun will require a carry permit, which you would get before hand. You could still own the handgun, but you wouldn't be able to carry it anywhere.

of course, this is assuming you live in America...?
Lord Tothe
12-06-2008, 02:39
Ruger 10/22 with a side-folding stock and a 4x scope. I plan to swap the scope for a ghost ring sight system - the scope detracts from the "compact and portable" concept I was going for with the stock. Of course I have a Butler Creek 30 round magazine. Now I have a eeeeeevil black assault rifle with a banana clip and a folding stock! OMZ, It'll take out a Hummer now! With the scope, it's also a sniper rifle! Never mind the minimal effectiveness of the .22LR cartridge, the SEMI-auto action, and the accuracy limits pertaining thereto.
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 02:42
well for all you gun nuts I need a little info...im looking to purchasing a gun but the process im not entirly sure of. Im aware of my local laws but the regulations for all weapons is the thing I know nothing about, such as how I get a permit for my weapon (Do I buy the gun and take it to get a permit or do I have to apply for a permit before I can get the gun...)

Any info would help.

Probably the best place to check is one of the gun stores in your area. They should be able to help with any paperwork you need, procedures, etc.

BTW, what are you looking to get? Pistol, Rifle, or Shotgun? In CT, I don't need a permit to buy a rifle or shotgun (if I don't have a permit though, I do have to wait 14 days each time I make a purchase), whereas I DO need a permit to buy/transport a pistol.
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 02:44
Model 17 Springfield Rifle, .22 Caliber.

It was my Grandfathers, his 13th birthday gift. Helped feed his family during the depression. Only gun that you could truly "pry from my cold dead hands".

Sounds like something that may have a serious amount of sentimental value to you. Pics of the rifle?
Nerotika
12-06-2008, 02:51
If you were purchasing an assault rifle you would go and buy it. Then you fill out all the necessary paperwork. Wait a bit and then the call you to come and pick up your new gun. Provided you clear the FBI background check.

Well specifically im looking to begin a rifle collection with either of these two

http://www.impactguns.com/store/806703050508.html
http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397860998.html

but the procedure to purchasing them is my problem. On the site they say they ship the gun to local FFL dealers who fill out the paperwork and such...so if I just bought the gun would it be sent to an FFL holder and from that point I would be given a permit for it? (Cause its highly unlikely that, with the only police record I have as being possession of marijuana, they would deny me a permit)
Lord Tothe
12-06-2008, 02:59
Well specifically im looking to begin a rifle collection with either of these two

http://www.impactguns.com/store/806703050508.html
http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397860998.html

but the procedure to purchasing them is my problem. On the site they say they ship the gun to local FFL dealers who fill out the paperwork and such...so if I just bought the gun would it be sent to an FFL holder and from that point I would be given a permit for it? (Cause its highly unlikely that, with the only police record I have as being possession of marijuana, they would deny me a permit)

Get the M-1 variant.
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 03:00
Well specifically im looking to begin a rifle collection with either of these two

http://www.impactguns.com/store/806703050508.html
http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397860998.html

but the procedure to purchasing them is my problem. On the site they say they ship the gun to local FFL dealers who fill out the paperwork and such...so if I just bought the gun would it be sent to an FFL holder and from that point I would be given a permit for it? (Cause its highly unlikely that, with the only police record I have as being possession of marijuana, they would deny me a permit)

You may not need a permit for a rifle such as the 2 listed. However, you will need to pass a background check to buy it retail or get it transferred from an FFL. I don't know if the marijuana charge will affect the background check, though.

ETA: Of the 2 you listed, I'd personally go with the M1A, but AFAIK ammo is cheaper with the CZ VZ 58.
Nerotika
12-06-2008, 03:04
You may not need a permit for a rifle such as the 2 listed. However, you will need to pass a background check to buy it retail from an FFL. I don't know if the marijuana charge will affect the background check, though.

ETA: Of the 2 you listed, I'd personally go with the M1A, but AFAIK ammo is cheaper with the CZ VZ 58.

Well the CZ was more of a prize buy, the AK style to me is a beautiful design and since I can't buy an AK-47 I figure the CZ would be a nice knock-off. The M1A I would fire off and definatly not use for show...but its expensive as hell =P...

http://www.impactguns.com/store/048702142536.html

They got one of these though that I am concidering highly though...this site has alot of nice rifles and a very wide pistol selection, arn't there stricter regulations on pistols? I've heard some people say the process to getting a pistol is a bit strange...though it might just be my state laws (Nebraska, ain't it a wonderful barren wastland in the center of the US)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 03:18
This thread has the feel of profiling.:eek:
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 03:23
Well the CZ was more of a prize buy, the AK style to me is a beautiful design and since I can't buy an AK-47 I figure the CZ would be a nice knock-off. The M1A I would fire off and definatly not use for show...but its expensive as hell =P...

http://www.impactguns.com/store/048702142536.html

They got one of these though that I am concidering highly though...this site has alot of nice rifles and a very wide pistol selection, arn't there stricter regulations on pistols? I've heard some people say the process to getting a pistol is a bit strange...though it might just be my state laws (Nebraska, ain't it a wonderful barren wastland in the center of the US)

The CZ has the look of an AK, but it's not a knockoff. And why can't you buy a semi-auto AK-47? Last time I checked, Nebraska didn't have an AWB.
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 03:26
This thread has the feel of profiling.:eek:

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8643/owlhuh0tz.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8206/owlque5al.jpg
Nobel Hobos
12-06-2008, 03:30
I just purchased my first firearm, a 9mm Browning Hi-Power, built in 1977, and still in new condition (never been fired). *Sigh* It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.

Go right ahead. Give it oral sex, and let it come in your mouth. :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 03:36
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8643/owlhuh0tz.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8206/owlque5al.jpg

Read the title...

Nationstates gun owners call...

Doesn´t it feel like this person wants to have a list of all gun owners on the forum? That´s why I used profiling.




Pssst, I´m jesting.
Nerotika
12-06-2008, 03:44
Go right ahead. Give it oral sex, and let it come in your mouth. :p

ooo now thats dirty...i've done that once, the gun didn't call me the next day =(, a nice Luger Parabellum and it tasted delicious.

But hell I thought this state did have an AWB. Suppose I better check up a little, now an AK is a gun I could have sex with...
Tmutarakhan
12-06-2008, 03:45
*Sigh* It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.
Marine Corps boot-camp (Parris Island) story: a recruit complained to his drill sergeant, "I can't get the grease off this fucking thing." He was made to run around the barracks holding his rifle over his head, while repeating, "This is not my fucking thing! My fucking thing is between my legs! This is my rifle! I will not forget the difference!"
Gun Manufacturers
12-06-2008, 03:45
Read the title...

Nationstates gun owners call...

Doesn´t it feel like this person wants to have a list of all gun owners on the forum? That´s why I used profiling.




Pssst, I´m jesting.

I wouldn't really call it profiling. Maybe an interest in seeing what other firearms people have for opinions on types of firearms. I have to admit, from time to time I'm curious to know.

I know you were jesting. It's just that I don't get a chance to use those pics that often, and when I read your post, I couldn't resist.

:p
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 04:00
I own a gun but don't care to mention which one.

I own multiple firearms. I've named them before and will come back for some fun later. Now it is time for bed.
Nobel Hobos
12-06-2008, 04:30
If I did own a gun, I wouldn't tell the world about it.

It's not really that difficult to own a basic gun in Australia, despite gun control. It's more a cultural thing that few people own one.

I wouldn't be telling the world about it, because there's plenty of unarmed criminals who might want to come and take my gun, and I don't have a lot of faith in internet anonymity.

Choice between shooting someone to keep them from stealing my gun, or not owning the thing in the first place ... pretty simple really.

If I owned other restricted weapons, I would also not be telling strangers about them.
Skip rat
12-06-2008, 12:57
[QUOTE=The Smiling Frogs;13760918]
Anyway, my favorite is a custom left-handed bolt action 7mm Mag that I use for Elk and Moose. One end kills, the other maims.

QUOTE]

I fail to see why you would want to maim a animal rather than kill it outright - sounds a bit cruel to me
The imperian empire
12-06-2008, 13:05
I'm one of the few people in the UK to actually have an activated firearm.

Lee Enfield .303in No.4 Bolt action rifle.

Now, if only .303in rounds were easy to get...
Hotwife
12-06-2008, 14:14
Totally d00d. Nothing turns me on more than holding an implement of death. Just thinking about the lives that thing has taken, the blood spilled, the brains raining all around...gets me so, fucking, hot. *licks barrel*

Actually, I see it as an implement of power. The power of life and death. The power to alter your environment.

It's good to practice wielding that power. It comes in handy later.

I feel a sense of superiority over those unwilling to wield that power, especially in certain situations, where the superiority becomes quite real.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 15:00
I wouldn't really call it profiling. Maybe an interest in seeing what other firearms people have for opinions on types of firearms. I have to admit, from time to time I'm curious to know.

I know you were jesting. It's just that I don't get a chance to use those pics that often, and when I read your post, I couldn't resist.

:p

;)
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 15:09
;)

Even if I'm not carrying my weapon, Nanatsu still makes me bust off shots. :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 16:40
Even if I'm not carrying my weapon, Nanatsu still makes me bust off shots. :p

Oh, but of course!:cool:
Zowali
12-06-2008, 16:54
[QUOTE=The Smiling Frogs;13760918]
Anyway, my favorite is a custom left-handed bolt action 7mm Mag that I use for Elk and Moose. One end kills, the other maims.

QUOTE]

I fail to see why you would want to maim a animal rather than kill it outright - sounds a bit cruel to me

I doubt they'd get close enough to actually maim the animal by whomping it with the stock, so they'd wouldn't do that anyway. Its much easier to hit a person with the stock.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 17:02
Oh, but of course!:cool:

Ready for target practice?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 17:13
Ready for target practice?

Aye aye cap'n!!



((TG me any pointers, ok?:D))
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 17:31
Aye aye cap'n!!



((TG me any pointers, ok?:D))

check your TG partner.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 18:16
check your TG partner.

Roger, partner.
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-06-2008, 18:35
I have one custom-made flintlock rifle. It was made in 1840 and has a curly maple stock. It still works.
Zowali
12-06-2008, 18:55
I have one custom-made flintlock rifle. It was made in 1840 and has a curly maple stock. It still works.

why wouldn't it?

Its not like they had a plethora of mechanical parts to go bad. as long as it was taken the slightest care of, it should work just fine.

I think I'd be more impressed by a working original Gatling Gun(not the rotating cannon; I mean the ~1860 gas-operated machine gun)
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 18:55
Roger, partner.

Please maintain contact until we can pull out safely. Once we've hit target delta we'll be ready for extraction.
Zowali
12-06-2008, 18:56
Please maintain contact until we can pull out safely. Once we've hit target delta we'll be ready for extraction.

are you two ok?
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 18:59
now for the weapons.

several winchester and remington shotguns. Ranging from .410 to 12 guage. Semi autos and pump action. .410 is a bolt action single shooter.

Rifles with toggle scopes
222, 30 odd 6

handguns
Glock 19, 17, 9mm and .40 cal

Sig 9mm and .40 cal

sig 9mm is equipped with laser sights. "Need a light?"
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 19:01
Please maintain contact until we can pull out safely. Once we've hit target delta we'll be ready for extraction.

Understood. Begin countdown for impact and estimated coordinates for extraction. This will be a rough ride.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:03
are you two ok?

No, we're a little off mentally. This is why Nanatsu-chan and I get along so well. It helps to share a twisted sense of humor and morality. Thank you for your concern. As for our use of jargon, I will be a former US Marine as of 9/1/08. I can't wait for retirement!!!! Then all I'll have to invade is Nanatsu :fluffle:
Hotwife
12-06-2008, 19:07
No, we're a little off mentally. This is why Nanatsu-chan and I get along so well. It helps to share a twisted sense of humor and morality. Thank you for your concern. As for our use of jargon, I will be a former US Marine as of 9/1/08. I can't wait for retirement!!!! Then all I'll have to invade is Nanatsu :fluffle:

There's no such thing as a former Marine.

You can be former Army, Air Force, or Navy, but not a "former" Marine.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:08
Roger, partner.

I await your secure communication through our back door channels. We must keep the objectives in mind when we TG. Over and out.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:08
Understood. Begin countdown for impact and estimated coordinates for extraction. This will be a rough ride.

That is affirmative on the turbulance. I'm aiming right for your landing strip. Prepare for touchdown.
Zowali
12-06-2008, 19:08
No, we're a little off mentally. This is why Nanatsu-chan and I get along so well. It helps to share a twisted sense of humor and morality. Thank you for your concern. As for our use of jargon, I will be a former US Marine as of 9/1/08. I can't wait for retirement!!!! Then all I'll have to invade is Nanatsu :fluffle:

hahaha, all right. Just wondering.

I'll be Airborne in a couple of years.

Anyone can be a Marine. It takes balls to jump out of an airplane ;)

On another note, thanks for serving guys
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:12
There's no such thing as a former Marine.

You can be former Army, Air Force, or Navy, but not a "former" Marine.

Right, Marines are Marines for life. I get it. Let me rephrase...I will officially be severing my ties to the US Marine Corp This September. It has been an honor and privilege to serve, but I want out. The dangling carrot of another promotion isn't going to hold me.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:13
hahaha, all right. Just wondering.

I'll be Airborne in a couple of years.

Anyone can be a Marine. It takes balls to jump out of an airplane ;)

I beg to differ. There's a reason we say we are the "few, the proud..." I'm not into much of the inter-branch bickering. Anyone who serves with honor should be viewed with pride. I think we can all agree that the Air Force is the Sally Squad :)
Zowali
12-06-2008, 19:16
I beg to differ. There's a reason we say we are the "few, the proud..." I'm not into much of the inter-branch bickering. Anyone who serves with honor should be viewed with pride. I think we can all agree that the Air Force is the Sally Squad :)

hahaha, I was joking. I'm going for an Army career in the Airborne, while a friend of mine is going to be a Marine. We give each other crap all the time about it. And yes, the Airforce...I believe last time they were cool was when they were part of the Army as the Army Air Corps ;)

hell, if you wanna fly, join the Navy or the Marines. Unless its helicopters. then go Army.
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 19:17
There's no such thing as a former Marine.

You can be former Army, Air Force, or Navy, but not a "former" Marine.
That's ex-Marine. You can't be an ex-Marine. You can be a former Marine, but not ex.

God, I hate it when people get the words wrong.
Hotwife
12-06-2008, 19:17
That's ex-Marine. You can't be an ex-Marine. You can be a former Marine, but not ex.

God, I hate it when people get the words wrong.

oh, ok.

Oddly, I find my time in the service (Army infantry) to be some of the best times I've had in my life. I can't say I was eager to get out, except from a pay perspective.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:19
oh, ok.

Oddly, I find my time in the service (Army infantry) to be some of the best times I've had in my life. I can't say I was eager to get out, except from a pay perspective.

I'm eager to get out from a pay perspective as well. I'm also not interested in any more tours in the inferno of hell. When you are standing outside a tent and the mercury is reading 137, you know you are in hell. I'm happy to have served this great country of ours. It's now time for someone else to step up to the plate.
Zowali
12-06-2008, 19:19
"Air Force - Fight smarter, not harder!"

You know it's true. ;)

We fight on the ground cause clusterbombing hits everyone :P
Katonazag
12-06-2008, 19:20
I beg to differ. There's a reason we say we are the "few, the proud..." I'm not into much of the inter-branch bickering. Anyone who serves with honor should be viewed with pride. I think we can all agree that the Air Force is the Sally Squad :)

"Air Force - Fight smarter, not harder!"

You know it's true. ;)
Hotwife
12-06-2008, 19:21
I had that little bit of trivia drilled into me whilst doing push-ups. I don't know how many -- the command was "Just Begin..." Then I got the lecture and then he walked away...

I got to push down Georgia gratis...
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:22
"Air Force - Fight smarter, not harder!"

You know it's true. ;)

Anything worth doing is worth doing the hard way :)
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 19:22
oh, ok.

Oddly, I find my time in the service (Army infantry) to be some of the best times I've had in my life. I can't say I was eager to get out, except from a pay perspective.
I had that little bit of trivia drilled into me whilst doing push-ups. I don't know how many -- the command was "Just Begin..." Then I got the lecture and then he walked away...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 19:26
That is affirmative on the turbulance. I'm aiming right for your landing strip. Prepare for touchdown.

Landing strip cleared and ready for imminent touchdown. All access doors are open for access. Security clearance granted. We're waiting, sir.:p
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 19:28
I'm eager to get out from a pay perspective as well. I'm also not interested in any more tours in the inferno of hell. When you are standing outside a tent and the mercury is reading 137, you know you are in hell. I'm happy to have served this great country of ours. It's now time for someone else to step up to the plate.
Pay is definitely better on the outside. Especially if you're ambitious. One summer in Saudi was certainly enough for me. That's the only place I've refused to go with this company and I've been to some pretty lousy places -- Nigeria, Pakistan, Troll (Near McMurdo, but none of the fun -- not unless you like old Norwegians, anyway.)
Zowali
12-06-2008, 19:28
Dammit, somebody better pop some smoke if they want me to land...

that's what she said
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 19:28
Landing strip cleared and ready for imminent touchdown. All access doors are open for access. Security clearance granted. We're waiting, sir.:p

Dammit, somebody better pop some smoke if they want me to land...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 19:29
Dammit, somebody better pop some smoke if they want me to land...

*POPS DA SMOKE!!!!:D*

Now you can land, sir.;)
Myrmidonisia
12-06-2008, 19:31
I got to push down Georgia gratis...
And we appreciate the low spots that you left at the home. We'll fill it with water a little later. There's not a natural lake in Georgia, you know...
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:32
Landing strip cleared and ready for imminent touchdown. All access doors are open for access. Security clearance granted. We're waiting, sir.:p

It's a good thing I have top level clearance. Otherwise I might not be able get into the secure areas inside your perimeter. Flash me that smile and it's splash down time. :eek: How did you like your secure communication via TG? I take no response to mean you are breathless.
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 19:44
"This is my rifle, this is my gun. This ones for shooting this ones for fun." :eek:
Zowali
12-06-2008, 19:45
"This is my rifle, this is my gun. This ones for shooting this ones for fun." :eek:

one of my favorite cadences, for sure.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-06-2008, 20:34
It's a good thing I have top level clearance. Otherwise I might not be able get into the secure areas inside your perimeter. Flash me that smile and it's splash down time. :eek: How did you like your secure communication via TG? I take no response to mean you are breathless.

It's you, I mean, Liuzzo-senpai, how can I not give you clearance?;)

As for a TG from you, I haven't recieved any.:(
Liuzzo
12-06-2008, 23:56
It's you, I mean, Liuzzo-senpai, how can I not give you clearance?;)

As for a TG from you, I haven't recieved any.:(

lost in the abyss it is. I'll be sure to resend later. Shame, it was a good one. I'll do my best to replicate.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 00:00
lost in the abyss it is. I'll be sure to resend later. Shame, it was a good one. I'll do my best to replicate.

Indeed. I´m sure it was a good one and if you do resend this TG, I´ll enjoy it immensely. Take your time.;)
Derscon
13-06-2008, 00:18
...did you two just cyber using gun and aircraft analogies?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 00:23
...did you two just cyber using gun and aircraft analogies?

<_<

Did we, Liuzzo-sama?

I don´t think so. This is a gun thread. How can you gleam such a silly conclusion from a conversation about guns. Really?:rolleyes:
Gabriel Possenti
13-06-2008, 00:39
Re: Prior postings

Wow.

Anyway, to the thread at hand:


I just purchased my first firearm, a 9mm Browning Hi-Power, built in 1977, and still in new condition (never been fired). *Sigh* It is such a beautiful gun. I want to have sex with it.


Not all of us are quite as sexually motivated in our collection activities; But hey, whatever works for you.

I've owned a few P35's (Another name for the BHP, or Browning Hi-Power).

Designed in 1928, JMB (John Moses Browning - Godfather of all modern weaponry) patented his pistol in 1935. It is the first double-stack pistol designed to be double-tapped. Its factory magazine capacity is 13 rounds, and uses a slightly superior barrel-cam system to the swinging-link of the also-JMB-designed Colt .45.

In fact, over 70 percent of modern autoloading handguns are variations of the barrel-cam Browning design. This includes such well-known brands such as Sig-Sauer, Ruger, and Glock.

My only personal beefs with the BHP are the blasted magazine safety (which can be removed, no, I'm not going to tell you how) and the rather flimsy transfer-piece that engages a fulcrummed bar that runs part of the length of the slide to engage the sear (the part that the hammer cocks against) in order to fire the weapon.

I love the BHP because of the way the slide stop is set up, because with a weaver combat grip, you can push UP on the far end of the slide stop and drop the slide without changing your combat grip.

The pistol is robust and reliable, if a little low in the round count when compared to the 15-17 round capacities of the BHP's contemporaries.

Also, remember that the hammer WILL bite you if you grip it too high up in the back.

Good purchase.

Oh, btw, a 30-year-old gun in pristine condition, while nice, is by no means rare. My crown jewel in my own collection (Not a BHP) was manufactured in 1919.

I hope your BHP does everything you want it to do.

If you're going to run hollowpoints, make SURE your gun will feed them reliably. Do NOT carry anything for defensive use until you've run at least FIFTY (a full box) of them through your gun IN THE MAGAZINES YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY.

Most autoloader malfunctions are operator induced. After that comes magazines, then ammo. Only VERY VERY rarely is it ever the fault of the gun.

Any malfunction you have should reflect this methodology for diagnosis.

Bluing, while it is in and of itself a rusting process, is NOT as protective as more modern finishes; It is up to you to keep it well protected and lubricated without OVER lubricating, in order to keep your firearm in that wonderful condition.

The elements, including your own fingerprints, are what will kill the bluing on your gun and quickly make it start looking ugly. WIPE THOSE FINGERPRINTS OFF every time you handle your firearm.

Be safe,

GP
Sarig
13-06-2008, 01:40
I've got a Mauser Gehwer M98 .308. Supposedly used for deer hunting, but so far it's mostly been carrying it around the wilderness of Norway a lot trying to find some of those elusive deers. I swear, they know when the hunting season starts. I can see one every morning for weeks, then when the time is at hand, they're just gone.

Got a proper scope mounted on it, can't remember the specifics of it, but high quality and 3-9x zoom which is fun at the shooting range (:
Lord Tothe
13-06-2008, 02:06
Partial wish list:

Para Warthog .45 ACP
Mossberg 590
AR-10
Thompson-Center Encore .308 (of course, I'll be $200 away from any other caliber I want once I have the action and stock...)
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 02:11
...did you two just cyber using gun and aircraft analogies?

Ha, not exactly. Wordplay is fun and can be good for the whole family. Nanatsu and I are both very much into linguistics, amongst other things.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 02:12
<_<

Did we, Liuzzo-sama?

I don´t think so. This is a gun thread. How can you gleam such a silly conclusion from a conversation about guns. Really?:rolleyes:

No darling. If we did you could feel it merely from the power of my words and mind. You know we are telekinetic.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 02:15
Ha, not exactly. Wordplay is fun and can be good for the whole family. Nanatsu and I are both very much into linguistics, amongst other things.

Ditto.
Get your mind out of the gutter, Gabriel.;)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 02:16
No darling. If we did you could feel it merely from the power of my words and mind. You know we are telekinetic.

Indeed.
Telekinetic, among other things.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 02:21
Indeed.
Telekinetic, among other things.

You have a TG doll. Providing it didn't get lost.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 02:32
You have a TG doll. Providing it didn't get lost.

Aknowledged. I´ll check after posting.

EDIT: It was lost.:(
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:09
Aknowledged. I´ll check after posting.

EDIT: It was lost.:(

How is this even possible? I sent it twice.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:12
Aknowledged. I´ll check after posting.

EDIT: It was lost.:(

Ok, i went back through the system and resent it, yet again. This might be a NS problem today.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 03:12
How is this even possible? I sent it twice.

I got it just now. I was beginning to get worried about my TGs not reaching my Inbox. I´ll read it and if I don´t reply immediately, I´ll do it sometime during the morning.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:18
I got it just now. I was beginning to get worried about my TGs not reaching my Inbox. I´ll read it and if I don´t reply immediately, I´ll do it sometime during the morning.

whew, took long enough.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 03:19
whew, took long enough.

It did, but Jolt has been acting wonky today.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:27
I got it just now. I was beginning to get worried about my TGs not reaching my Inbox. I´ll read it and if I don´t reply immediately, I´ll do it sometime during the morning.

I'll be sure to keep your inbox stuffed full.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 03:28
I'll be sure to keep your inbox stuffed full.

I´m sure that won´t be the only thing you´ll try to keep full.;)
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:33
I´m sure that won´t be the only thing you´ll try to keep full.;)

Try? I succeed while others try. Yes, I'll keep 16 in the clip and one chambered to be ready for whatever comes my way. My guns are always loaded being that I have no children. After all, they're really not useful unless they can be fired.
Gun Manufacturers
13-06-2008, 03:36
Is there a way you two can take that somewhere else, so we can get back on topic?

Somewhat on topic, I'd like to get a 10/22 next, or maybe a 12g shotgun. Ledyard has a decent trap and skeet range, so that sounds like it'd be a fun local activity.
Zowali
13-06-2008, 03:41
whew, took long enough.

That's what she said
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:43
Is there a way you two can take that somewhere else, so we can get back on topic?

Oh, you mean all of the zero other people responding in this thread? I'll get back on topic. My Sig is my favorite by far, but a Glock is a beautiful weapon as well. I'm in love with the AR-15 as well, but I'd prefer something automatic. I'm working on a Mac 11, but that's a little more difficult.
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:47
That's what she said

NICE! :D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 03:52
NICE! :D

I´m so sleepy that laughing right now has taken what little strenght I have left. :p

Thanks for the comic relief before bed, you guys.

Liuzzo-sama, as always, it was a pleasure language obfuscating this boredom pit NSG can be at times with you.
:fluffle:

Agur!
Liuzzo
13-06-2008, 03:59
I´m so sleepy that laughing right now has taken what little strenght I have left. :p

Thanks for the comic relief before bed, you guys.

Liuzzo-sama, as always, it was a pleasure language obfuscating this boredom pit NSG can be at times with you.
:fluffle:

Agur!

A pleasant rest Nanatsu-chan:fluffle:
The South Islands
13-06-2008, 04:00
Oh great gun gods of NSG, a question I shall pose...

Well, two questions for your devinenessess.


1. Can anyone suggest an inexpensive, not that bad pistol thats not chambered in .22?

2. My Beretta M35's magazine is held in place by a clip of some sort. You can see it on the bottom of any picture of one. My problem is that the clip is very, very stiff. It takes much effort to pull it back far enough to remove the magazine. A gunsmith sprayed the gun equivilent of WD40 on it, but it didn't seem to help. I haven't disassembled it, but I think there's a spring inside providing tention on the clip. Since the spring sat there unmoved for nearly 50 years, I'm thinking it's lost some of its flexibility. Is there any way short of replacing the spring that I can make the magazine easier to release?
Zowali
13-06-2008, 04:01
NICE! :D

thanks, its one of my talents.

No, I honestly can't stand Glocks. They just can't feed .45 ACP right without some operator modification, and anything less than .45 ACP is inferior...in my opinion.

now a 1911? or even a 2011 is something I can get behind. I'm still seeing what I want as a carry weapon when I get my CCL in 10 months and 10 days
Zowali
13-06-2008, 04:04
Oh great gun gods of NSG, a question I shall pose...

Well, two questions for your devinenessess.


1. Can anyone suggest an inexpensive, not that bad pistol thats not chambered in .22?

2. My Beretta M35's magazine is held in place by a clip of some sort. You can see it on the bottom of any picture of one. My problem is that the clip is very, very stiff. It takes much effort to pull it back far enough to remove the magazine. A gunsmith sprayed the gun equivilent of WD40 on it, but it didn't seem to help. I haven't disassembled it, but I think there's a spring inside providing tention on the clip. Since the spring sat there unmoved for nearly 50 years, I'm thinking it's lost some of its flexibility. Is there any way short of replacing the spring that I can make the magazine easier to release?

You can get a 1911 for about 500-600 USD, I believe. Try Para Ordnance, they're pretty good. Glocks aren't bad, but the 9x19 isn't my favorite. I've seen some of those for about 400 USD
Gun Manufacturers
13-06-2008, 04:12
Oh great gun gods of NSG, a question I shall pose...

Well, two questions for your devinenessess.


1. Can anyone suggest an inexpensive, not that bad pistol thats not chambered in .22?

2. My Beretta M35's magazine is held in place by a clip of some sort. You can see it on the bottom of any picture of one. My problem is that the clip is very, very stiff. It takes much effort to pull it back far enough to remove the magazine. A gunsmith sprayed the gun equivilent of WD40 on it, but it didn't seem to help. I haven't disassembled it, but I think there's a spring inside providing tention on the clip. Since the spring sat there unmoved for nearly 50 years, I'm thinking it's lost some of its flexibility. Is there any way short of replacing the spring that I can make the magazine easier to release?

What's your budget, and definition of inexpensive?

As to the mag release question, I'm afraid I have no idea what to do, other than find a replacement spring.
Dragontide
13-06-2008, 08:01
I have a rifle
I have a gun
One is for fighting
The other's for fun
:p
New Granada
13-06-2008, 08:17
I've got several.
New Stalinberg
13-06-2008, 08:33
Mosin-nagant stamped 1930 (http://www.wwiiguns.com/store/images/m1891_mosin_nagant_e_0702_396.jpg)

Norinco AK-47 (http://www.athenswater.com/images/POLYoverNORINCO.JPG)

Family heirloom. (http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Auto-Rifles/M-1_Carbine.jpg) I have the non-folding stock version

.22 Smith and Wesson (http://armsbid.com/ks7pix/7glmo02.jpg) Although think most Americans have something like that

A .306 Remington that looks exactly like the .306 Springfield

Soon to get my Grandpa's pump action .306

A 20 guage over and under

Two 12 guages, both self loading

Some weird .32 caliber rifle that I've never shot before.

I think that's it.
Calarca
13-06-2008, 10:33
1940 Lee Enfield .303 SMLE No 1 Mk III*
1898 Lee Metford (rebarreled Enfield) MLM(E) I*
2005 H&R single shot shotgun 12G
Old, age unknown, Parker Hale Safari with Mauser 98 action with wartime manufacturing details. so 1940s at least. .308
ruger 10/22 from sometime in the 1980's

One Mutton cannon for shooting the chicks up ;)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 13:26
A pleasant rest Nanatsu-chan:fluffle:

Likewise.;)
Toxiarra
13-06-2008, 13:31
44 Magnum
1940's Mosin-nagant non-carbine(my favorite gun. 7.62x54 is teh 1337)
Sks (kicks like a bb gun)
Ak-47 with 70 round drum magazine. Pisses off the neighbors.

The Mosey (as it's lovingly referred to) is my favorite gun, even at several feet long it still kicks like a mule. Amazing to shoot, and destroys everything.
Bubabalu
13-06-2008, 14:26
well for all you gun nuts I need a little info...im looking to purchasing a gun but the process im not entirly sure of. Im aware of my local laws but the regulations for all weapons is the thing I know nothing about, such as how I get a permit for my weapon (Do I buy the gun and take it to get a permit or do I have to apply for a permit before I can get the gun...)

Any info would help.

If you go to your state attorney general web page, you should be able to access the gun laws applicable to your state. In NC, you only need a permit for a handgun. You have to apply for a purchase permit from the sheriff of the county you reside in. They go a background check, and they notify you if you qualify for a permit or not. The purchase permit for handgun is valid anywhere in the state with proper ID. However, in NC you do not need a permit for a long gun.
Bubabalu
13-06-2008, 14:29
thanks, its one of my talents.

No, I honestly can't stand Glocks. They just can't feed .45 ACP right without some operator modification, and anything less than .45 ACP is inferior...in my opinion.

now a 1911? or even a 2011 is something I can get behind. I'm still seeing what I want as a carry weapon when I get my CCL in 10 months and 10 days

Have you considered a Colt Combat Commander? I have one with a 4 inch barrel that I have carried for about 20 years. It is a nice compact size, and works well in ccw mode.

As far as the Glocks, I have a Glock 21, and have not had any problems with hollow points.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 14:33
I have never understood the fixation and adoration some people have for fire arms. They're dangerous.
New Giron
13-06-2008, 14:42
1X MGL-140 grenade launcher (for work)
1X styer (for work/fun)
1X glock 9mm with silencer (for work)(silencer is for fun)
3X whalter ppk (for fun)
the Great Dawn
13-06-2008, 14:47
Same either, why the hell would anyone would want to possess an item wich is designed to kill people as effectively as possible? A hunting rifle is 1 thing, no problems with that, since ofcourse (duh) they're designed for hunting.
I read posts here from people who own AK's! Why the héll does someone want to have an assault rifle designed for war, I don't get it.
New Stalinberg for example, you can declare war with a small country with that 0.o I really don't get it.
Or why do people want to carry there weapons? Where do you live, the Wild West??
Lord Tothe
13-06-2008, 14:53
I have never understood the fixation and adoration some people have for fire arms. They're dangerous.

So are cars. "Guns are designed to kill!" Yeah, and cars are designed for speeding.

Target shooting, skeet shooting, and hunting are all enjoyable activities for people, and most here hunt because they need the food. I live out in the mountains where there are grizzly bears, cougars, and wolves. A shotgun or large-caliber pistol are commonly carried by people when traveling through the mountains. Lastly, self-defense is an inherent right of any person. A firearm gives the weak a chance to protect themselves from the strong and can protect the law-abiding from the lawless.

*edit* The AK-47 available in the US for most civilian buyers is a SEMI-automatic. It only goes bang once when you pull the trigger. It's popular because it's inexpensive, the ammunition is cheap, and it can be a capable deer rifle. Don't believe me? Many a deer has been taken with an SKS, AK, or AR-15 (The civilian version of the M-16). The SKS and AK models from eastern Europe are generally capable of quite acceptable accuracy, too. The AR is a very good semi-auto varmint rifle.

Carelessness can be injurious, but it's really quite simple:

1. Always treat every gun as if it were loaded.
2. never point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Keep the safety on until you intend to shoot.
5. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it. Do not shoot if there is any risk.

These rules, if followed, prevent all firearm accidents.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 14:59
So are cars. "Guns are designed to kill!" Yeah, and cars are designed for speeding.

Target shooting, skeet shooting, and hunting are all enjoyable activities for people, and most here hunt because they need the food. I live out in the mountains where there are grizzly bears, cougars, and wolves. A shotgun or large-caliber pistol are commonly carried by people when traveling through the mountains. Lastly, self-defense is an inherent right of any person. A firearm gives the weak a chance to protect themselves from the strong and can protect the law-abiding from the lawless.

Carelessness can be injurious, but it's really quite simple:

1. Always treat every gun as if it were loaded.
2. never point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Keep the safety on until you intend to shoot.
5. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it. Do not shoot if there is any risk.

These rules, if followed, prevent all firearm accidents.

Although I understand all you've posted, I still see so point in the adoration some people feel for guns, let alone cars. ;)
Partybus
13-06-2008, 17:47
A great quote I just read in a mystery novel, "I treat all of my guns like there is a bullet in the chamber, because there always is..." Joe Pike

BTW...

I own a 16 gauge bolt action Sears and Roebuck shotgun.

A .305 Caliber long rifle (with scope) The brand escapes me at this moment.

A Glock 17 .9mm

And I am currently gun sitting an absolutely gorgeous .45 caliber that was manufactured by the Casbian Arms Company (the parts were hand made by them, I don't know who assembled them though) If it's worth a penny less than 3000 USD, I would be shocked...
The South Islands
13-06-2008, 17:50
Also, I saw a Hakim in one of the local gun shops for a decent price (I think). Does anyone have any experience with the Hakim or the Rasheed?
Antebellum South
13-06-2008, 18:15
I have never understood the fixation and adoration some people have for fire arms. They're dangerous.

As a wise man once said- guns are loud, dangerous, and can look really bad ass, thus the perfect American thing.
Hotwife
13-06-2008, 18:49
As a wise man once said- guns are loud, dangerous, and can look really bad ass, thus the perfect American thing.

I have suppressors for most of my firearms, so they aren't loud at all.
Soldnerism
13-06-2008, 19:30
I have my gun(s). I won't say what they are but I pity those who try to break into my home and cause harm to my family.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 19:54
As a wise man once said- guns are loud, dangerous, and can look really bad ass, thus the perfect American thing.

;)
I get it.
Neo Bretonnia
13-06-2008, 20:00
Although I understand all you've posted, I still see so point in the adoration some people feel for guns, let alone cars. ;)

I think there's a common theme there. Men especially are drawn to things that give them the feeling of empowerment. This is why men are usually the more likely to be into cars, guns, boats, motorcycles, computers... whatever. Anything that expands one's abilities and can be compared and contrasted with others. (Freud would say they symbolize the penis. I prefer to think they're more a psychological extension of male prowess generally.)

I've owned guns, a couple of cool vehicles, some badasstic computers, and always when I was interacting with them I felt a little more powerful, a little more able than some other guy who lacked whatever it was. (My Jeep could pull any vehicle out of any mudpit. I was a damn good shot with all of my firearms, and the processing power of my home built computers can usually put even the Borg Queen to shame.)

It's a guy thing.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 20:07
I think there's a common theme there. Men especially are drawn to things that give them the feeling of empowerment. This is why men are usually the more likely to be into cars, guns, boats, motorcycles, computers... whatever. Anything that expands one's abilities and can be compared and contrasted with others. (Freud would say they symbolize the penis. I prefer to think they're more a psychological extension of male prowess generally.)

I've owned guns, a couple of cool vehicles, some badasstic computers, and always when I was interacting with them I felt a little more powerful, a little more able than some other guy who lacked whatever it was. (My Jeep could pull any vehicle out of any mudpit. I was a damn good shot with all of my firearms, and the processing power of my home built computers can usually put even the Borg Queen to shame.)

It's a guy thing.

Ok, I will liken it to the crazy obssession many women have (and I'm not including myself nor making it a general statement, because I hate shopping) with shoes, bags, clothes, ect.

It's a gal thing.
Lord Tothe
13-06-2008, 20:22
Ok, I will liken it to the crazy obssession many women have (and I'm not including myself nor making it a general statement, because I hate shopping) with shoes, bags, clothes, ect.

It's a gal thing.

and teacups, and makeup, and candles, and ......

&^$%%&$%$!!!!!! I have sisters who can babble for hours about that stuff that can't even get a meal on the table!!!
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-06-2008, 23:30
and teacups, and makeup, and candles, and ......

&^$%%&$%$!!!!!! I have sisters who can babble for hours about that stuff that can't even get a meal on the table!!!

I know, my mom and my grandmother are like that. They can babble about that all day long.
Soyut
13-06-2008, 23:38
I would like to take this opportunity to show off my guns:

A Ruger Mk III Hunter 1911 style grip (State registered)

http://rangerdougs.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Ruger_MKIII.99110734_std.JPG

A Romanian semi auto AK-47 (unregistered)
this is not actually a picture of my gun, mine has the standard front rifle grip.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/Jay_G/AK004.jpg

and some others too...
Soyut
13-06-2008, 23:43
Same either, why the hell would anyone would want to possess an item wich is designed to kill people as effectively as possible? A hunting rifle is 1 thing, no problems with that, since ofcourse (duh) they're designed for hunting.
I read posts here from people who own AK's! Why the héll does someone want to have an assault rifle designed for war, I don't get it.
New Stalinberg for example, you can declare war with a small country with that 0.o I really don't get it.
Or why do people want to carry there weapons? Where do you live, the Wild West??

I shot a goose with my AK one time. It was so funny, all those feathers and guts that exploded. The 7.62 x 39mm Soviet ammo is no joke. I would only use my AK to shoot someone in self defense though. Otherwise, I just shoot trees, old cars and the occasional goose that offends me.
Calarca
14-06-2008, 00:31
1X styer (for work/fun)

That the Steyr AUG?

I used to use one of them, nice handly little rifle, a tad butt heavy, but thats common with bullpup designs due to all the ammo and reciever being behind the grip.

Pretty easy to strip and clean in the field too.
Gun Manufacturers
14-06-2008, 00:52
I shot a goose with my AK one time. It was so funny, all those feathers and guts that exploded. The 7.62 x 39mm Soviet ammo is no joke. I would only use my AK to shoot someone in self defense though. Otherwise, I just shoot trees, old cars and the occasional goose that offends me.

I hear the 7.62x39mm does quite a number on old CRT monitors and tube TVs, too. :D
Zowali
14-06-2008, 01:15
Same either, why the hell would anyone would want to possess an item wich is designed to kill people as effectively as possible? A hunting rifle is 1 thing, no problems with that, since ofcourse (duh) they're designed for hunting.
I read posts here from people who own AK's! Why the héll does someone want to have an assault rifle designed for war, I don't get it.
New Stalinberg for example, you can declare war with a small country with that 0.o I really don't get it.
Or why do people want to carry there weapons? Where do you live, the Wild West??

I own a civilian AK47 because I've always been fascinated by the Avtomat Kalashanikov Forty Seven. It was a weapon designed because Mikhail Kalashanikov was witness(and victim) of a vicious German attack in which most of his tank unit(he commanded one) was slaughtered. He made it too a hospital and started drawing up the basic designs for the AK. He wanted to provide a weapon that was on par with what the Germans were using(part of why the Ruskies got their asses kicked in that instance). He did it so his countrymen would have a better chance.

Also, its an innovative combination of mechanics that allow the weapon to work in the most adverse circumstances.
Antebellum South
14-06-2008, 01:36
Re: Prior postings

Wow.

Anyway, to the thread at hand:



Not all of us are quite as sexually motivated in our collection activities; But hey, whatever works for you.

I've owned a few P35's (Another name for the BHP, or Browning Hi-Power).

Designed in 1928, JMB (John Moses Browning - Godfather of all modern weaponry) patented his pistol in 1935. It is the first double-stack pistol designed to be double-tapped. Its factory magazine capacity is 13 rounds, and uses a slightly superior barrel-cam system to the swinging-link of the also-JMB-designed Colt .45.

In fact, over 70 percent of modern autoloading handguns are variations of the barrel-cam Browning design. This includes such well-known brands such as Sig-Sauer, Ruger, and Glock.

My only personal beefs with the BHP are the blasted magazine safety (which can be removed, no, I'm not going to tell you how) and the rather flimsy transfer-piece that engages a fulcrummed bar that runs part of the length of the slide to engage the sear (the part that the hammer cocks against) in order to fire the weapon.

I love the BHP because of the way the slide stop is set up, because with a weaver combat grip, you can push UP on the far end of the slide stop and drop the slide without changing your combat grip.

The pistol is robust and reliable, if a little low in the round count when compared to the 15-17 round capacities of the BHP's contemporaries.

Also, remember that the hammer WILL bite you if you grip it too high up in the back.

Good purchase.

Oh, btw, a 30-year-old gun in pristine condition, while nice, is by no means rare. My crown jewel in my own collection (Not a BHP) was manufactured in 1919.

I hope your BHP does everything you want it to do.

If you're going to run hollowpoints, make SURE your gun will feed them reliably. Do NOT carry anything for defensive use until you've run at least FIFTY (a full box) of them through your gun IN THE MAGAZINES YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY.

Most autoloader malfunctions are operator induced. After that comes magazines, then ammo. Only VERY VERY rarely is it ever the fault of the gun.

Any malfunction you have should reflect this methodology for diagnosis.

Bluing, while it is in and of itself a rusting process, is NOT as protective as more modern finishes; It is up to you to keep it well protected and lubricated without OVER lubricating, in order to keep your firearm in that wonderful condition.

The elements, including your own fingerprints, are what will kill the bluing on your gun and quickly make it start looking ugly. WIPE THOSE FINGERPRINTS OFF every time you handle your firearm.

Be safe,

GP

Thanks much for your advice.:)
Myrmidonisia
14-06-2008, 02:17
I shot a goose with my AK one time. It was so funny, all those feathers and guts that exploded. The 7.62 x 39mm Soviet ammo is no joke. I would only use my AK to shoot someone in self defense though. Otherwise, I just shoot trees, old cars and the occasional goose that offends me.
I tried to drive over a flock of geese one day. I had them six and centered on the hood ornament and rolled right over one. I didn't hear the right sort of thump-thump-thumping sound, so I stopped and started to get out for a look. The stupid goose lived through the whole thing. He started wobbling around and then took to the wing. I watched it fly away, streaming a trail of shit behind it.

Damn geese.
Soyut
14-06-2008, 03:06
I tried to drive over a flock of geese one day. I had them six and centered on the hood ornament and rolled right over one. I didn't hear the right sort of thump-thump-thumping sound, so I stopped and started to get out for a look. The stupid goose lived through the whole thing. He started wobbling around and then took to the wing. I watched it fly away, streaming a trail of shit behind it.

Damn geese.

God! I know. Geese have to be one of the most durable and belligerent animals in the world. They poop, everywhere, and it smells horrible. They bite your ankles when you walk by them. And when you kick them, they poop on your shoes. They just poop and attack, poop and attack, its all they know how to do. And they can fly, wtf!?

We should get together sometime and shoot some geese, baby.;)
Trollgaard
14-06-2008, 03:07
I have a firing replica of a Colt Navy 44 caliber 6-shot revolver. Some friends and are going to a gun store tomorrow to see if we can find some ammo. (and some advice from more gun-savvy people)
Katonazag
14-06-2008, 03:28
Same either, why the hell would anyone would want to possess an item wich is designed to kill people as effectively as possible? A hunting rifle is 1 thing, no problems with that, since ofcourse (duh) they're designed for hunting.
I read posts here from people who own AK's! Why the héll does someone want to have an assault rifle designed for war, I don't get it.
New Stalinberg for example, you can declare war with a small country with that 0.o I really don't get it.
Or why do people want to carry there weapons? Where do you live, the Wild West??

1) 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to. A person's personal reasons behind it are irrelevant, much the same as is for people who say whatever they feel like is protected by the 1st Amendment.

2) Wild West? Ever live in a place where police response times are poor? Take this into account: the average for the time from which an intruder is standing outside a dwelling to the time they are standing inside is roughly 12 seconds. There are things you can do to give yourself more time, such as good lighting, owning a good dog, thorny bushes under windows, etc - but still you won't get that time much over about 1.5 minutes. How many people here live where police response time is that fast?

3) If a person is entering a dwelling solely with the intention of theft, they are going to strike when they think nobody is at home. If someone tries to break in to an obviously occupied dwelling, you can safely assume that one or more of three things are true: a) suspect is mentally altered, either naturally or by intoxication/detoxification, b) they intend on harming the people occupying the dwelling, or c) they believe themselves to be superiorly armed.


So, with that in mind, if you're going to own a firearm, why not own one that is going to do the job as effectively as possible and suits you as a weapon you feel comfortable (and maybe even... enjoy) operating?

That being said, my arsenal consists of the following:
- Ruger Mini-30, heavily modified
- Norinco SKS
- Mosin Nagant M44, Hungarian
- Mosin Nagant M44, Hungarian, sporterized to a scout configuration
- FEG PA-63 in .380, modified

And I *enjoy* them as well as depend on them for protection due to how far out in the country I live. But I relied on them just as much when I lived in a downtown area. :mp5: :sniper: :cool: :D
Soyut
14-06-2008, 03:30
I have a firing replica of a Colt Navy 44 caliber 6-shot revolver. Some friends and are going to a gun store tomorrow to see if we can find some ammo. (and some advice from more gun-savvy people)

very cool.