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.....so can a homosexual.”

Sure isn't that great to know.....

The North’s deputy first minister today branded Iris Robinson’s criticism of gay people harmful and distressing.

Martin McGuinness said first minister Peter Robinson’s wife should reflect on the impact her comments would have on the homosexual community.

Last week the Democratic Unionist Party leader’s spouse (whom, I point out is, head of the Assemblys health comittee)branded homosexuality an abomination and suggested it could be solved by psychiatric treatment.

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http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbojeygbkf/

Of course, they used nearly say the same thing about us Fenians....

.....so can a homosexual.”

Sure isn't that great to know.....


http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbojeygbkf/

Of course, they used nearly say the same thing about us Fenians....

That sounds like systematic erradication to me. Homosexuality is not a metal illness, it's the choice of loving whom you will, and it's silly of that woman to even suggest this course of action.

Of course, what's to be expected of someone who probably grew watching the Catholic Church ostracize girls into Magdalene laundries just because they were considered too pretty or were raped by an arse. Sheesh! We live in the 21st. century, not in the Middle Ages.

Of course, what's to be expected of someone who probably grew watching the Catholic Church ostracize girls into Magdalene laundries just because they were considered too pretty or were raped by an arse. Sheesh! We live in the 21st. century, not in the Middle Ages.

Actually they would have watched from afar and denounced the savagery of the Papists...them being up north and Free Presbyterians.....

So are we liquoring up gay people with sacramental wine now or something?

Homosexuality is not a metal illness, it's the choice of loving whom you will, and it's silly of that woman to even suggest this course of action.


It's also silly of you to suggest that sexual orientation is a choice.

So are we liquoring up gay people with sacramental wine now or something?

No, thats the Catholics. These are the Free Presbyterians, who don't believe in that stuff and nonsense preached by the Church of Rome. Mr and Mrs Robinson are viewed as 'progressives' within the party, I might add.

So it's just a good old fashioned blood bath.

No, thats the Catholics. These are the Free Presbyterians, who don't believe in that stuff and nonsense preached by the Church of Rome. Mr and Mrs Robinson are viewed as 'progressives' within the party, I might add.

I think Peter Robinson is probably seen as that, didn't think Iris was...this, of course, comes after what Paisley Jr. said around this time last year.

Iris Robinson is an MP, too; I wonder what would happen if any other MP said that.

It's also silly of you to suggest that sexual orientation is a choice.

What if it isn't a choice? Neither is race. We aren't supposed to discriminate against black people, are we?

What if it is a choice? So is Religion. We aren't supposed to discriminate agains jews, are we?

Whether or not it's environmental or genetic, whether it's a choice or not, whether it's 'curable' or not is irrelevant.

Sexual preference is no proper basis for the categorization of human beings.

What if it isn't a choice? Neither is race. We aren't supposed to discriminate against black people, are we?

What if it is a choice? So is Religion. We aren't supposed to discriminate agains jews, are we?

Whether or not it's environmental or genetic, whether it's a choice or not, whether it's 'curable' or not is irrelevant.

Sexual preference is no proper basis for the categorization of human beings.

I agree with you entirely, but the only 'choice' involved in sexual orientation is whether or not to act on it. I didn't just wake up one day bored of the monotony of heterosexuality and fancied a change. Likewise, I don't think most people are heterosexual after having reviewed the pros and cons of other persuasions and come to the conclusion that it was the best brand.

It's also silly of you to suggest that sexual orientation is a choice.

Perhaps as equally silly as suggesting that by praying and stuffing gay people with sacramental wine and the Eucharist they're going to be cured from the "Dreaded Homosexual Virus". Come on, to be a priest you have to study evem more than a doctor. It's quite Dark Ages to even discuss the topic of Homosexuality this way.

Perhaps as equally silly as suggesting that by praying and stuffing gay people with sacramental wine and the Eucharist they're going to be cured from the "Dreaded Homosexual Virus". Come on, to be a priest you have to study evem more than a doctor. It's quite Dark Ages to even discuss the topic of Homosexuality this way.

Well, I wouldn't say it was as silly as all that.

Well, I wouldn't say it was as silly as all that.

But it is.

But it is.

I think our wires are crossed. Of course I think any notions of curing homosexuality with prayer and wine are ridiculous. And harmful.

But I was also saying that I didn't agree with your point that sexual orientation is a choice. It's not a choice. But that wasn't silly on your part, just a bit misguided, imo.

That sounds like systematic erradication to me.

Do not sully the name of systematic eradication by associating it with these individuals. :mad:

I kid, I kid, sully all you like.

Someone in Northern Ireland is using their religious beliefs to be a dick?

Well I never

So are we liquoring up gay people with sacramental wine now or something?

Shit yeah we have been doing that for years. A freind of mine was not only one of the first women ordained as a priest in this country she is also a raving dyke!

I think our wires are crossed. Of course I think any notions of curing homosexuality with prayer and wine are ridiculous. And harmful.

But I was also saying that I didn't agree with your point that sexual orientation is a choice. It's not a choice. But that wasn't silly on your part, just a bit misguided, imo.

It is a choice, especially when you opt for loving a person of the same sex. Take for example, those who deny their feelings. They're gay, but be it on account of society or religion, "choose" not to "love". Aren't they making a choice?

Misguided? I don't think so. But I think we agree on what's crucial here. Prayer and wine do not "cure" homosexuality.

For the record, I don't consider homosexuality a sin.

Someone in Northern Ireland is using their religious beliefs to be a dick?

Well I never
:p

It is a choice, especially when you opt for loving a person of the same sex. Take for example, those who deny their feelings. They're gay, but be it on account of society or religion, "choose" not to "love". Aren't they making a choice?
Yes, but they're not making a choice in the way folks are talking about it; 'choosing' what sexuality you are, or who you are attracted to.

Those who deny their feelings still have those feelings, no matter how repressed.

I think Peter Robinson is probably seen as that, didn't think Iris was...this, of course, comes after what Paisley Jr. said around this time last year.

Iris Robinson is an MP, too; I wonder what would happen if any other MP said that.


Well, they are in 'special' seats, so perhaps exceptions are made...

However, normally an MP would be disciplined by their party, not the house. The odds of the DUP doing so to a party member over this are about the same as the Pope being welcomed into the North with a smile and a song from Willie Mc Crea on his melodeon.

What if it isn't a choice? Neither is race. We aren't supposed to discriminate against black people, are we?

What if it is a choice? So is Religion. We aren't supposed to discriminate agains jews, are we?

Whether or not it's environmental or genetic, whether it's a choice or not, whether it's 'curable' or not is irrelevant.

Sexual preference is no proper basis for the categorization of human beings.

Thank you. People get far too hung up on trying to "justify" homosexuality, saying it's biological, it's not a choice, etc. While I don't believe it is a choice, I also really don't care. I choose to where my hair at a certain length, drink coke instead of pepsi, and cheer for one sports team over another. None of these provide any basis for discrimination, and neither does my choice of sexual partners.