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The following is a list of the complications in abortions. This list can be trusted. For discussion on abortion ther is another thread. This thread is more about the actual procedure. Clearing up the falsities on that thread. If other info is unclear, please state what it is. If you do not understand one of these, I will give another explanation.

* Heavy Bleeding - Some bleeding after abortion is normal. However, if the cervix is torn or the uterus is punctured, there is a risk of severe bleeding known as hemorrhaging. When this happens, a blood transfusion may be required. Severe bleeding is also a risk with the use of RU486. One in 100 women who use RU486 require surgery to stop the bleeding.

* Infection – Infection can develop from the insertion of medical instruments into the uterus, or from fetal parts that are mistakenly left inside (known as an incomplete abortion). A pelvic infection may lead to persistent fever over several days and extended hospitalization. It can also cause scarring of the pelvic organs.

* Incomplete Abortion - Some fetal parts may be mistakenly left inside after the abortion. Bleeding and infection may result.

* Sepsis – A number of RU486 or mifepristone users have died as a result of sepsis (total body infection).

* Anesthesia – Complications from general anesthesia used during abortion surgery may result in convulsions, heart attack, and in extreme cases, death. It also increases the risk of other serious complications by two and a half times.

* Damage to the Cervix - The cervix may be cut, torn, or damaged by abortion instruments. This can cause excessive bleeding that requires surgical repair.

* Scarring of the Uterine Lining – Suction tubing, curettes, and other abortion instruments may cause permanent scarring of the uterine lining.

* Perforation of the Uterus - The uterus may be punctured or torn by abortion instruments. The risk of this complication increases with the length of the pregnancy. If this occurs, major surgery may be required, including removal of the uterus (known as a hysterectomy).

* Damage to Internal Organs - When the uterus is punctured or torn, there is also a risk that damage will occur to nearby organs such as the bowel and bladder.

* Death - In extreme cases, other physical complications from abortion including excessive bleeding, infection, organ damage from a perforated uterus, and adverse reactions to anesthesia may lead to death. This complication is rare, but is real.

This list can be trusted.

Because you say so?

Hence the need for a qualified doctor, available legally, rather than a back-alley practitioner.

I hope that's your point.

This is a list that has been gathered on a university forum. If you trace it, it will lead you to the University of Toronto. If you do not believe in this statement, then disregard the list and post no more.

Yah, the people who are making abortions illegal are simply making them more dangerous. It also suppresses birth control, thus creating the need for more abortions.

May we also see the list for birth risks?

An unborn baby without a sentient mind.

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

Yah, give me 20 minutes, I will find a good list for risks of birth, but I know off the top of my head that only about 6% of births ever have complications. (I do not know if this includes miscarriages.)

This is a list that has been gathered on a university forum. If you trace it, it will lead you to the University of Toronto.

Next time, when you post something, why don't you actually link to your source? Or at least cite it, if it's not online? And make it clear that you're quoting the parts you're excerpting word-for-word?

Don't just say "This list can be trusted", because the whole need to cite sources is founded in the fact that we can't be sure we can trust you.

If you do not believe in this statement, then disregard the list and post no more.

:rolleyes:

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

Hardly. And even if, so what? We murder every day, whether under the aegis of "war," "justice," or "economics." You gonna end all them, too?

requires password. my dad was professor there

this link does not look much like my list, eh?

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

This.

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/index.htm

http://www.pregnancycenters.org/abortion.html

Is this your source?

Yah, give me 20 minutes, I will find a good list for risks of birth, but I know off the top of my head that only about 6% of births ever have complications. (I do not know if this includes miscarriages.)
What is the percentage for abortions? You're doing a Fox-worthy job of spinning this: "Look at all the dangers from abortion! But such a small percentage of births!" Make comparisons by similar measures, please.

shall we make a list of all the problem with humans giving birth? I mean we are rather shit at it as a species and I presume even Pandas kick are arse in this

edit: damn you above posters!

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.
That is scientific FACT.

No, that is propoganda. Liberal marxist propoganda.

You can't actually kill the unborn. Unless you shoot them in the head/set the umbilical cord on fire.
Tough bastards.

For the most part they are removed and then contained in furnaces until Judgement Day. When they will rise forth, shuffling from their firey prisons, to consume those that caged their furies.

Hence the need for a qualified doctor, available legally, rather than a back-alley practitioner.

QFT

isn't this the kid pretending to be a doctor who performs abortions in the south?

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/index.htm

I'm sorry Mrs. Jones but your cervix is just bloody incompetent, what we, in the medical profession, call an 'Incompetent Cervix', it's can't do a damn thing right and we've given it written instructions with pictures for god's sake!

I'm sorry Mrs. Jones but your cervix is just bloody incompetent, what we, in the medical profession, call an 'Incompetent Cervix', it's can't do a damn thing right and we've given it written instructions with pictures for god's sake!

Get the machine that goes, "ping!" :p

Yup, my dad is the doctor, fair enough. What i said is true, however. So no more shit about that plz

No, that is propoganda. Liberal marxist propoganda.

You can't actually kill the unborn. Unless you shoot them in the head/set the umbilical cord on fire.
Tough bastards.

For the most part they are removed and then contained in furnaces until Judgement Day. When they will rise forth, shuffling from their firey prisons, to consume those that caged their furies.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

I only agreed with the sarcastic view of his post, though, if he was being litteral...well...no.

Yup, my dad is the doctor, fair enough.


Ah fucking fantastic.

What i said is true, however.

You mean a medical procedure has risks? What a fucking shock.

So what the hell was your point?

Yup, my dad is the doctor, fair enough. What i said is true, however.

Wait, you outright lied about your qualifications, and now you want us to believe what you say?

I love the reference to Monty Python, very appropriate. Anyway, sorry, I was mistaken, that is 14% of complications at birth, asked him. Looked on college site and on web and could not find specific complications that seemed trustworthy, can anyone find it?

isn't this the kid pretending to be a doctor who performs abortions in the south?

:eek:

I'm sorry Mrs. Jones but your cervix is just bloody incompetent, what we, in the medical profession, call an 'Incompetent Cervix', it's can't do a damn thing right and we've given it written instructions with pictures for god's sake!

so like she needs a good Cervixing ;)

Hardly. And even if, so what? We murder every day, whether under the aegis of "war," "justice," or "economics." You gonna end all them, too?

Yes. And I'm going to ban birth on the basis that it nearly always ends in death.

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

"horrifying loss" . . . .yes very scientific . . . . .*SARCASM*

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

I only agreed with the sarcastic view of his post, though, if he was being litteral...well...no.

Other than the descriptive modifier of "horrifying" and perhaps the designation of "baby" his post was 100% accurate. Assuming the abortion is done correctly.

May we also see the list for birth risks?
You want to see a list of birth complications vs. back-alley abortions you can go look it up, and be surprised when your tiny mind discovers that probably 1000% more people die from illegal abortions than from a birth.:upyours:

Yes. And I'm going to ban birth on the basis that it nearly always ends in death.

Remember, kids! Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal disease! :)

actually I've got a question here. What about the Psychological effects of either having or not having an abortion . . . .I mean personally I'd say adoption was worse psychologically but I'd be interested in other peoples views.

actually I've got a question here. What about the Psychological effects of either having or not having an abortion . . . .I mean personally I'd say adoption was worse psychologically but I'd be interested in other peoples views.
I think it would be very difficult to claim there was a universal psychological response. It would depend almost entirely on the emotional make up of the individual, and therefore vary as widely as individuals are wont to do.

What is the percentage for abortions? You're doing a Fox-worthy job of spinning this: "Look at all the dangers from abortion! But such a small percentage of births!" Make comparisons by similar measures, please.

I'm sorry I could be wrong but I think you just foolishly contradicted your earlier views because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and you are simply trying to be disagreeable. I bet your from the southern U.S.

actually I've got a question here. What about the Psychological effects of either having or not having an abortion . . . .I mean personally I'd say adoption was worse psychologically but I'd be interested in other peoples views.

Having an abortion: Tortured by the thoughts of being an accomplice to a murder. Haunted by fetii in your dreams. Everytime you see the word 'abortion' you would cringe inwardly, possible rupturing your Christbox.

Not having one: You could have a baby and then spend countless hours of time and loads of money raising yet another human being to contribute to the overpopulation of the world.

Option 3: Don't get pregnant/impregnate someone.

Er, if it helps anyone.. I was joking with the horrifying loss post.

Come to think of it I was joking even if it doesn't help anyone.

Option 3: Don't get pregnant/impregnate someone.

Amen! Once we can guarantee no one ever gets pregnant unless it is their conscious decision to do so, then you can think about making abortion less accessible (although there would always be the possibility of its medical neccessity).

Er, if it helps anyone.. I was joking with the horrifying loss post.

Come to think of it I was joking even if it doesn't help anyone.

LOL no huhu! I've always wanted to post that "we murder every day" bit :fluffle:

Yes. And I'm going to ban birth on the basis that it nearly always ends in death.

finally a politician I can get behind

It would depend almost entirely on the emotional make up of the individual, and therefore vary as widely as individuals are wont to do.

I think culture group will play a larger role surely?

Amen! Once we can guarantee no one ever gets pregnant unless it is their conscious decision to do so, then you can think about making abortion less accessible (although there would always be the possibility of its medical neccessity).

Don't worry. I've been building a time machine to...actually, nevermind.

I don't want anyone to know my..secrets..

I think culture group will play a larger role surely? I agree that cultural context is one of the factors in an individual's emotional composition. It is far from the only factor, and may not even be the dominant one.

finally a politician I can get behind

Wait.. you mean Clinton wasn't into that.. you know.. that.

Seriously... read up on it.
Any surgery can have complications. Hell you can die from an ingrown toenail if you are an at risk patient and you are not treated promptly and properly! You can die from a corn even!


Next time you decide to come and spread your shit around here, do some research, provide references to relevant and accurate primary information sources and don't lie to us.

Oh, by the way, my guess is that you wouldn't know what half of those terms in the first post mean.

Having an abortion: Tortured by the thoughts of being an accomplice to a murder. Haunted by fetii in your dreams. Everytime you see the word 'abortion' you would cringe inwardly, possible rupturing your Christbox.

Not having one: You could have a baby and then spend countless hours of time and loads of money raising yet another human being to contribute to the overpopulation of the world.

Option 3: Don't get pregnant/impregnate someone.

1:lol nice
2:lol nice. . .also . . . .also if your a teen you impoverish yourself at the same time (Also true of some adults and not All teens)
3:lol if only that actually worked and spontaneity didn't exist

I think it would be very difficult to claim there was a universal psychological response. It would depend almost entirely on the emotional make up of the individual, and therefore vary as widely as individuals are wont to do.

fair enough

Seriously... read up on it.
Any surgery can have complications. Hell you can die from an ingrown toenail if you are an at risk patient and you are not treated promptly and properly!

I have had an ingrown toenail for years now. Just haven't had time to get it fixed.

I am now looking at it in a whole new light. My own toe is trying to kill me. How dare it.

You want to see a list of birth complications vs. back-alley abortions you can go look it up, and be surprised when your tiny mind discovers that probably 1000% more people die from illegal abortions than from a birth.:upyours:

Ah, more pantywadage. No, I'd like to see a comparison of statistics and lists of complications from clinic-performed abortions vs. hospital (ie doctor-attended) births. I have no truck with abortion being outlawed, as should be obvious from my other posts. :fluffle:

I'm sorry I could be wrong *snip*

QFT

You want to see a list of birth complications vs. back-alley abortions you can go look it up, and be surprised when your tiny mind discovers that probably 1000% more people die from illegal abortions than from a birth.:upyours:

Henshaw S.K et al, Severity and cost of unsafe abortion complications treated in nigerian hospitals. International family planning perspective. 2008 Mar;34(1):40-51.
http://guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3404008.pdf

Abstract: CONTEXT: Each year, thousands of Nigerian women have unintended pregnancies that end in illegal abortion. Many such procedures occur under unsafe conditions, contributing to maternal morbidity and mortality. METHODS: In a 2002-2003 survey of women and their providers in 33 hospitals in eight states across Nigeria, 2,093 patients were identified as being treated for complications of abortion or miscarriage or seeking an abortion. Women's abortion experiences and the health consequences and associated costs were examined through bivariate analysis. Multivariate analysis was used to examine the characteristics of women by type of pregnancy loss and to compare characteristics among three groups of women who had induced abortions in differing circumstances. RESULTS: Among women admitted for abortion-related reasons, 36% had attempted to end the pregnancy before coming to the hospital (including 24% with and 12% without serious complications), 33% obtained an induced abortion at the facility (not withstanding the country's restrictive law) without having made a prior abortion attempt and 32% were treated for complications from a miscarriage. Of women with serious complications, 24% had sepsis, 21% pelvic infection and 11% instrumental injury; 22% required blood transfusion and 10% needed abdominal surgery. The women in this group were poorer and later in gestation than those who sought abortions directly from hospitals. They paid more for treatment (about 13,900 naira) than those who went directly to the hospital for an abortion (3,800 naira) or those treated for miscarriage (5,100 naira). CONCLUSIONS: Policy and program interventions are needed to improve access to contraceptive services and postabortion care in order to reduce abortion-related morbidity and mortality.

That is people who were unable to get a safe abortion due to restrictive laws.
Have a look at table 7 if you want to compare the complications of an unsafe abortion a safe induced abortion. (the article is freely available at the link I provided before)

QED

I have had an ingrown toenail for years now. Just haven't had time to get it fixed.

I am now looking at it in a whole new light. My own toe is trying to kill me. How dare it.

Depends whether you are an at risk patient:
Basically: ingrown toenail=>local infection of nail bed and toe=>lymphangitis=>lymphadentits=>septicaemia=>death

So, requires a vulnerable patient (something such as vascular insufficiency or an immune system that is already damaged/impaired). So, Guessing you are relatively healthy apart from the toenail, you're probably not at much risk.
Of course, it is far easier to just go and get it treated.. you'll be off your feet for a couple of days, but it will be so much better after wards.

<not doctor. Unaccountable.

Is this about abortion rights? I hate politics......:headbang:

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

This.

I think you left out the rest of your sentence. It should read "This is neither scientific, nor a fact."

I read both of those as serious. What I wrote still stands for those who WOULD say such things seriously.

Is this about abortion rights? I hate politics......:headbang:

To understand politics, we must break the word into its component parts. First, we have "poli," which is latin for "many." Then, we have "tics," which are blood-sucking arachnids. So, "Politics" = "many blood-sucking arachnids."

One thing that amazes me is that 20-25% of women miscarry and most of them do not realise it. The baby is so small it hides in the poop.

One thing that amazes me is that 20-25% of women miscarry and most of them do not realise it. The baby is so small it hides in the poop.

Of course, that's only if you had anal sex.

That's also why some babies are born brown and some are born white.

Babies I've seen are often purple, I think that's oral sex.

Of course, that's only if you had anal sex.

That's also why some babies are born brown and some are born white.

Babies I've seen are often purple, I think that's oral sex.

Debbie bursts into tears. Mom asks, "What's wrong?"
"When Bobby's baby is born, it'll kick out my teeth!"

pregnancy is far more risk then abortion.
I do not see the health issues as a major cause of concern.

Okay, now I'm gonna go for the obvious troll... Mainly cause it is this guy... and well... it's kinda fun :P There are 2 options here. You are a troll or you are a complete idiot...
One thing that amazes me is that 20-25% of women miscarry and most of them do not realise it. The baby is so small it hides in the poop.
Remember what we said about referencing?

Every textbook and source I have ever read has made it fairly clear that the reproductive and digestive systems are seperate.

Okay, now I'm gonna go for the obvious troll... Mainly cause it is this guy... and well... it's kinda fun :P There are 2 options here. You are a troll or you are a complete idiot...

Remember what we said about referencing?

Every textbook and source I have ever read has made it fairly clear that the reproductive and digestive systems are seperate.

And even if they weren't . . . that's not where babies come out.

I have had an ingrown toenail for years now. Just haven't had time to get it fixed.

I am now looking at it in a whole new light. My own toe is trying to kill me. How dare it.

Get it fixed, dude. Takes about an hour for the procedure. Then a couple days to let it heal. And then it causes no more trouble.

If you fail to abort something like this might happen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkyg_j3BXM) :eek: You have been warned about the dangers or both oral sex and pregnancy.

If you fail to abort something like this might happen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkyg_j3BXM) :eek: You have been warned about the dangers or both oral sex and pregnancy.

I was so expecting a rick roll...

SNIP OP

And what is the % risk of these happening? Both overall and individually?

Yah, give me 20 minutes, I will find a good list for risks of birth, but I know off the top of my head that only about 6% of births ever have complications. (I do not know if this includes miscarriages.)Well, except for number 3 on the list for abortions, I'm pretty sure it contains at least every other risk on it.
Of course without quantifying the risks it's a pretty useless list.

Here's a list of pregnancy risks: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm

One thing that amazes me is that 20-25% of women miscarry and most of them do not realise it. The baby is so small it hides in the poop.
:eek::rolleyes:

Are people just willingly ignoring the fact that this guy is actually on your side?

Yah, the people who are making abortions illegal are simply making them more dangerous. It also suppresses birth control, thus creating the need for more abortions.

On the very first page people!

Are people just willingly ignoring the fact that this guy is actually on your side?
People do not have to defend somebody just because s/he is on the same side.

The following is a list of the complications in abortions.

Inadequate OP. No debating point, no personal position on an established debate.

You get some credit for writing it yourself. (Pending my reading the thread, and finding someone who nails you for quoting "your" Original Post from some other source.)

Still, no. Facts are just facts, until put to some service. NSG is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a repository for facts. Debate, or gtfo.

Another reality of abortion is THE HORRIFYING LOSS OF AN UNBORN BABY.

That is scientific FACT.

Not a fact. I deny that it is a baby, and I deny it is horrifying.

The fact is that the pregnancy ends. That is all.

A strong debater with a strong position needs no allies. The mass attack is for the weak debaters with the weak position.

The ideal debater is neither strong nor weak, and takes a position regardless of its prospects to win. Even the hopeless position deserves its defender, and its ideal defender is the ideal debater, the competent but not outstanding advocate who neither relishes winning nor fears losing.

The ideal debater also specifically renounces bad reasons to hold the opinion they defend. That's simply Collateral Damage. Your idiot "ally" was in the wrong place at the wrong time. They said a stupid thing, and the stupid statement should be cut out like a cancer before their stupid thing is seen as an inherent part of your position.

Anyone who sits back in satisfaction as the "other side" fights it out is living on borrowed time. Debate strengthens positions, both sides, and to sit it out is to simply grow weaker. One who hates the opposite position more than they love their own, is best served by shutting the fuck up, logging off, and going back to the cave where the fist is mightier than the mouth.

I am willing to get ripped to shreds here. A lot of people are chewing my heads off because I claimed to be a doctor (obviously a mistake). My dad is actually the doctor. He has a phd from the University of Toronto and an MD from McMaster (or maybe switched can no remember) I did, however, get my lists from him and he has been practicing medicine for over 20 years now. I think they can be trusted. About babies mixing with digestive track, I am not sure if that is what happens. I know they come out with the poo, do not know how they get there. Did not ask him that. I would be glad if someone quickly researched it.

... I know they come out with the poo, do not know how they get there. Did not ask him that.


Go ask him, please.

I am willing to get ripped to shreds here. A lot of people are chewing my heads off because I claimed to be a doctor (obviously a mistake). My dad is actually the doctor. He has a phd from the University of Toronto and an MD from McMaster (or maybe switched can no remember) I did, however, get my lists from him and he has been practicing medicine for over 20 years now. I think they can be trusted. About babies mixing with digestive track, I am not sure if that is what happens. I know they come out with the poo, do not know how they get there. Did not ask him that. I would be glad if someone quickly researched it.
...

Uhu...

"Err you caught me out for bullshitting so actually it's my dad that the doctor, but I can't remember where he got his degree, and I only asked him some things but not others but IM NOT LYING, by the way can you do all my research for me kthxbye"

You know what happens without the possibility of having an abortion? For one, many people with no money at all for themselves then have to become parents, which isn't remotely positive. There is also the obvious depletion of resources caused by more people. Neither of these are good. Whilst I'd agree that abortions are a bit sad, too many people is not a good thing, at all.

Yah, overpopulation is probably the thing that should really be worried about right now. Particularly in the Middle East.

Yah, overpopulation is probably the thing that should really be worried about right now. Particularly in the Middle East.
No, not really in the Middle East at all. The problem area is really sub-Saharan Africa, where the necessary resources for human life are simply not present in enough quantity. India's birth rate is slowly falling, and China has a hold on the situation.

Really, I was told that it was problem in middle east as many men there have like 6-10 kids.

Really, I was told that it was problem in middle east as many men there have like 6-10 kids.
Not on average.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Birth_rate_figures_for_countries.PNG/800px-Birth_rate_figures_for_countries.PNG

About babies mixing with digestive track, I am not sure if that is what happens. I know they come out with the poo, do not know how they get there. Did not ask him that. I would be glad if someone quickly researched it.

Magic. *nod* See, when you're pregnant, microscopic fairies come and live in your body, and if you miscarry, the little fairies get angry, and angry fairies spit acid, which dissolves your organs, causing your innards to turn to a big mish-mash of mush. Then the fairies realize that having a big mish-mash of mush for organs would kill someone, so they quickly wave their microscopic wands and repair the damage once the embryo has lodged itself in your intestines. Obviously.

The following is a list of the complications in abortions. This list can be trusted. For discussion on abortion ther is another thread. This thread is more about the actual procedure. Clearing up the falsities on that thread. If other info is unclear, please state what it is. If you do not understand one of these, I will give another explanation.

* Heavy Bleeding - Some bleeding after abortion is normal. However, if the cervix is torn or the uterus is punctured, there is a risk of severe bleeding known as hemorrhaging. When this happens, a blood transfusion may be required. Severe bleeding is also a risk with the use of RU486. One in 100 women who use RU486 require surgery to stop the bleeding.

* Infection – Infection can develop from the insertion of medical instruments into the uterus, or from fetal parts that are mistakenly left inside (known as an incomplete abortion). A pelvic infection may lead to persistent fever over several days and extended hospitalization. It can also cause scarring of the pelvic organs.

* Incomplete Abortion - Some fetal parts may be mistakenly left inside after the abortion. Bleeding and infection may result.

* Sepsis – A number of RU486 or mifepristone users have died as a result of sepsis (total body infection).

* Anesthesia – Complications from general anesthesia used during abortion surgery may result in convulsions, heart attack, and in extreme cases, death. It also increases the risk of other serious complications by two and a half times.

* Damage to the Cervix - The cervix may be cut, torn, or damaged by abortion instruments. This can cause excessive bleeding that requires surgical repair.

* Scarring of the Uterine Lining – Suction tubing, curettes, and other abortion instruments may cause permanent scarring of the uterine lining.

* Perforation of the Uterus - The uterus may be punctured or torn by abortion instruments. The risk of this complication increases with the length of the pregnancy. If this occurs, major surgery may be required, including removal of the uterus (known as a hysterectomy).

* Damage to Internal Organs - When the uterus is punctured or torn, there is also a risk that damage will occur to nearby organs such as the bowel and bladder.

* Death - In extreme cases, other physical complications from abortion including excessive bleeding, infection, organ damage from a perforated uterus, and adverse reactions to anesthesia may lead to death. This complication is rare, but is real.
Not exactly fair and balanced. You do realize that a first trimester abortion is several times safer than full term childbirth, hmmm?

* Incomplete Abortion - Some fetal parts may be mistakenly left inside after the abortion. Bleeding and infection may result.

I have just developed permanent disgust-related anorexia. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

I'm sorry I could be wrong but I think you just foolishly contradicted your earlier views because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and you are simply trying to be disagreeable. I bet your from the southern U.S.

I wonder… what is the greater tragedy? That you think he has no idea what he's talking about, or that you have no idea what he's talking about?

Wait, it was the second one.

People do not have to defend somebody just because s/he is on the same side.

But you're all acting as if he is pro life.

The following is a list of the complications in abortions. This list can be trusted. For discussion on abortion ther is another thread. This thread is more about the actual procedure. Clearing up the falsities on that thread. If other info is unclear, please state what it is. If you do not understand one of these, I will give another explanation.

* Heavy Bleeding - Some bleeding after abortion is normal. However, if the cervix is torn or the uterus is punctured, there is a risk of severe bleeding known as hemorrhaging. When this happens, a blood transfusion may be required. Severe bleeding is also a risk with the use of RU486. One in 100 women who use RU486 require surgery to stop the bleeding.

* Infection – Infection can develop from the insertion of medical instruments into the uterus, or from fetal parts that are mistakenly left inside (known as an incomplete abortion). A pelvic infection may lead to persistent fever over several days and extended hospitalization. It can also cause scarring of the pelvic organs.

* Incomplete Abortion - Some fetal parts may be mistakenly left inside after the abortion. Bleeding and infection may result.

* Sepsis – A number of RU486 or mifepristone users have died as a result of sepsis (total body infection).

* Anesthesia – Complications from general anesthesia used during abortion surgery may result in convulsions, heart attack, and in extreme cases, death. It also increases the risk of other serious complications by two and a half times.

* Damage to the Cervix - The cervix may be cut, torn, or damaged by abortion instruments. This can cause excessive bleeding that requires surgical repair.

* Scarring of the Uterine Lining – Suction tubing, curettes, and other abortion instruments may cause permanent scarring of the uterine lining.

* Perforation of the Uterus - The uterus may be punctured or torn by abortion instruments. The risk of this complication increases with the length of the pregnancy. If this occurs, major surgery may be required, including removal of the uterus (known as a hysterectomy).

* Damage to Internal Organs - When the uterus is punctured or torn, there is also a risk that damage will occur to nearby organs such as the bowel and bladder.

* Death - In extreme cases, other physical complications from abortion including excessive bleeding, infection, organ damage from a perforated uterus, and adverse reactions to anesthesia may lead to death. This complication is rare, but is real.

Many studies over decades have proven that abortion is the safest form of birth control (as long as it's done by trained professionals in a clinical setting).

Safer than the Pill. Safer than condoms. Safer than foam. And yes, even safer than abstinence (it seems that becoming pregnant does a woman's body good in terms of being healthy).

The risk of abortion complications is minimal when the procedure is performed by a trained professional in a hygienic setting: Fewer than 1% of all U.S. abortion patients experience a major complication. The risk of death associated with abortion in the United States is less than 0.6 per 100,000 procedures, which is less than one-tenth as large as the risk associated with childbirth.

It's more dangerous crossing the street in downtown Chicago.

And yes, even safer than abstinence (it seems that becoming pregnant does a woman's body good in terms of being healthy).

I also understand wearing shoes in the kitchen can cause foot cancer.

I also understand wearing shoes in the kitchen can cause foot cancer.

Yah, supposedly the chemicals when you smell popcorn can cause cancer too.

Yah, supposedly the chemicals when you smell popcorn can cause cancer too.

Abortion just isn't as risky as you say.

The risk of abortion complications is minimal when the procedure is performed by a trained professional in a hygienic setting: Fewer than 1% of all U.S. abortion patients experience a major complication. The risk of death associated with abortion in the United States is less than 0.6 per 100,000 procedures, which is less than one-tenth as large as the risk associated with childbirth.

It's more dangerous crossing the street in downtown Chicago.


Not too mention driving. lol

Abortion just isn't as risky as you say.

I do not think abortion is risky. I posted this because ppl were giving bs complications in abortion. I am pro-choice.

Yah, supposedly the chemicals when you smell popcorn can cause cancer too.

*Swish!*

The following is a list of the complications in abortions. This list can be trusted. For discussion on abortion ther is another thread. This thread is more about the actual procedure. Clearing up the falsities on that thread. If other info is unclear, please state what it is. If you do not understand one of these, I will give another explanation.



Uh, you realise the risks of childbirth are also extensive, right?