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With the US primaries complete, attention is turning to the conventions. The 2008 Democratic National Convention is being held in Denver, Colorado. This will be the 40th anniversary of the infamous 1968 convention in Chicago. I have heard rumours of agitation to "reenact" the protests. :eek: (http://www.recreate68.org/) <-- (clicky linky thingie to one group's website)

One of the instigators of the 1968 protests, one of the "Chicago Seven," was Abbie Hoffman, founder of the Yippie (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yippie) movement and author of a book about sticking it to The Man, called "Steal This Book." :cool: (http://www.tenant.net/Community/steal/steal.html) <-- (Clicky linky thingie to the complete text)

I'm unsure how to categorize Mr. Hoffman (but check the "Yippie" clicky linky thingie above). At a 1988 reunion of the Chicago Seven, he described himself as "an American dissident. I don't think my goals have changed since I was four and I fought schoolyard bullies." Anarchist? Anti-Establishmentarian? Pirate? Ninja?? Certainly, he had lessons to teach any practicing Discordian or Thelemite, perhaps even Pastafarian. But how well has his message, if he had one, aged? Is there room for Abbie's brand of "do your own thing" in our post-political world? Or is it even more pertinent, more vital than it was forty years ago?

i dont understand why its the democrats who are going to get this kind of agitation. wouldnt it make more sense to picket the war mongering economy wrecking minority hating republicans?

but both rush limbaugh and rosie odonnel have talked up the idea of demonstrating at the denver convention.

maybe i should go up and participate...

i dont understand why its the democrats who are going to get this kind of agitation. wouldnt it make more sense to picket the war mongering economy wrecking minority hating republicans?

but both rush limbaugh and rosie odonnel have talked up the idea of demonstrating at the denver convention.

maybe i should go up and participate...

Because it was the Dems in 1968?

eta: sorry you missed the steal. I got warp-lucky

Because it was the Dems in 1968?

tradition?

tradition?

More celebration than tradition, I expect ;)

i dont understand why its the democrats who are going to get this kind of agitation. wouldnt it make more sense to picket the war mongering economy wrecking minority hating republicans?

but both rush limbaugh and rosie odonnel have talked up the idea of demonstrating at the denver convention.

maybe i should go up and participate...

Traditionally it's liberals who favor big government, increased taxes, and involuntary participation in the state IE nationalized healthcare

I prefer David Delliger myself. Anyone who can get 32 counts of contmpt of court gets major points from me.

Traditionally it's liberals who favor big government, increased taxes, and involuntary participation in the state IE nationalized healthcare

In 1968, it wasn't a question of protesting against liberals. The riots occurred because the Democratic Party was supposed to be the party of youth and change. But with the assassination of Robert Kennedy, the old, fat, balding white guys were able to recapture the political machinery of the party at the convention. To which Mr. Hoffman et al objected, vociferously.

Just posting to complain about that lovely poll not being multiple choice. Edward got the pity vote because the mountain already had yours.

Carry on.

As a denizen of Colorado and someone who thinks of Denver as his favorite city, I'm not inclined to support anyone who wants to riot there. I can understand their point of view(I most definitely agree that the parties really represent only themselves rather than the people), but rioting and violent protests won't solve a damned thing. It'll just make things worse.

Just posting to complain about that lovely poll not being multiple choice. Edward got the pity vote because the mountain already had yours.

Carry on.
Is there one on a mountain? I meant the one in Normandy (I think), on the ocean. Abbe sur la mer, oui? (How do I do an accent grave?)

eta: thank you for noticing how nice the poll is. I spent some time on it *beams*

As a denizen of Colorado and someone who thinks of Denver as his favorite city, I'm not inclined to support anyone who wants to riot there. I can understand their point of view(I most definitely agree that the parties really represent only themselves rather than the people), but rioting and violent protests won't solve a damned thing. It'll just make things worse.
I believe Denver officials have already created a "designated protest area" in an attempt to contain the madness. Give 'em somewhere (away from the Pepsai Center) to "do their thing," just as Mr. Hoffman would have them do :p

Is there one on a mountain? I meant the one in Normandy (I think), on the ocean. Abbe sur la mer, oui?
That's what I meant. It's often called "monastery mountain" in German and hill sounded lame. Obv.

(How do I do an accent grave?)
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You're welcome.

eta: thank you for noticing how nice the poll is. I spent some time on it *beams* Very nice indeed. :fluffle:

That's what I meant. It's often called "monastery mountain" in German and hill sounded lame. Obv.
Ah, carry on . . .

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ohkaaaaaaay . . . is there a way to get it to appear over an "e," for example? Some sort of askii thing?

You're welcome.
Very nice indeed. :fluffle::fluffle:

Hippies were pretty rubbish at rioting even when they were young and the drugs still worked. Can't see them raising more than an unpleasant smell and a few choruses of "we shall overcome" now days.

I grew up living in Abbey Road. It was a good place to live.

Ah, carry on . . .


ohkaaaaaaay . . . is there a way to get it to appear over an "e," for example? Some sort of askii thing?



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Like this è Once again, yes, I can see that you've done it, but HOW? Is it a special keyboard? ASCII? What? What? TELL ME THE SECRET!

Once again, yes, I can see that you've done it, but HOW? Is it a special keyboard? ASCII? What? What? TELL ME THE SECRET!

You could google it ;)

Personally, I just find a chart of all the unicode characters and copy-paste the one I need. The more common ones it would make sense to know the keystrokes for though.

You could google it ;)

Personally, I just find a chart of all the unicode characters and copy-paste the one I need. The more common ones it would make sense to know the keystrokes for though.

DO'H! Sometimes, I question my leet haxxor computer skillz :p

Sorry for the shameless bump, but I can't understand why a thread with a catchy title, a valid political and historical topic, and a blazingly amazing poll (c'mon, I worked hard on it!) is sinking away while everyone posts and reposts on "ur cuntry r dum" threads . . .

Traditionally it's liberals who favor big government, increased taxes, and involuntary participation in the state IE nationalized healthcare

so... why would radicals protest that?

the nice republican fans of rush limbaugh are not going to show up in denver to cause troubles. rush is just talking out his ass on that one.

Once again, yes, I can see that you've done it, but HOW? Is it a special keyboard? ASCII? What? What? TELL ME THE SECRET!
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With the US primaries complete, attention is turning to the conventions. The 2008 Democratic National Convention is being held in Denver, Colorado. This will be the 40th anniversary of the infamous 1968 convention in Chicago. I have heard rumours of agitation to "reenact" the protests. :eek: (http://www.recreate68.org/) <-- (clicky linky thingie to one group's website)

One of the instigators of the 1968 protests, one of the "Chicago Seven," was Abbie Hoffman, founder of the Yippie (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yippie) movement and author of a book about sticking it to The Man, called "Steal This Book." :cool: (http://www.tenant.net/Community/steal/steal.html) <-- (Clicky linky thingie to the complete text)

I'm unsure how to categorize Mr. Hoffman (but check the "Yippie" clicky linky thingie above). At a 1988 reunion of the Chicago Seven, he described himself as "an American dissident. I don't think my goals have changed since I was four and I fought schoolyard bullies." Anarchist? Anti-Establishmentarian? Pirate? Ninja?? Certainly, he had lessons to teach any practicing Discordian or Thelemite, perhaps even Pastafarian. But how well has his message, if he had one, aged? Is there room for Abbie's brand of "do your own thing" in our post-political world? Or is it even more pertinent, more vital than it was forty years ago?
Kids today can't put a good protest together.

Kids today can't put a good protest together.
So, are you saying we need someone to take up the mantle of Abbie Hoffman, or that there is no one who can?

Ah, awesome! Even better than cut'n'paste :cool:
cut'n'paste: *select*, Ctrl+X, *point*, Ctrl+V :D

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Ah, awesome! Even better than cut'n'paste :cool:

I'm not sure how exactly "Re-create 68" is going to do just that. I mean, I see the amusingly idealistic scheduled protests, but if you really want to recreate Chicago '68 you have to import some of our meathead cops to bash people's heads in. Which I sort of hope they do, we can have a party here while the cops are in Denver.:D

So, are you saying we need someone to take up the mantle of Abbie Hoffman, or that there is no one who can?
I don't think anyone has the will to protest in a manner similar to what was done in the '60s. Plus, there's no catalyst of the magnitude of Vietnam. That was a powerful reason to protest.

There are some things that deserve large scale protests, but things like the income tax and social security reform, etc aren't going to get large crowds of reformers out there.

TG me for nudes

I'm not sure how exactly "Re-create 68" is going to do just that. I mean, I see the amusingly idealistic scheduled protests, but if you really want to recreate Chicago '68 you have to import some of our meathead cops to bash people's heads in. Which I sort of hope they do, we can have a party here while the cops are in Denver.:D

I don't think anyone has the will to protest in a manner similar to what was done in the '60s. Plus, there's no catalyst of the magnitude of Vietnam. That was a powerful reason to protest.

There are some things that deserve large scale protests, but things like the income tax and social security reform, etc aren't going to get large crowds of reformers out there.I have to agree with both of you about the protests. We've got Iraq, but without a draft, it's not as impactful. What about Hoffman's theory of sticking it to the Man? Did everyone give that up? Or are people just doing it from within the system?

TG me for nudesLOL now there's a thread-stealer!

TG me for nudes

Of Abbie Hoffman.

TG me for nudes

http://www.starwars.com/community/fun/caption/2002/08/img/caption60.jpg

Of Abbie Hoffman.

ROFLMAO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A)

http://www.alexpooley.com/images/posts/base-20070423.jpg

*replace base with thread and you get the idea!*

I have to agree with both of you about the protests. We've got Iraq, but without a draft, it's not as impactful. What about Hoffman's theory of sticking it to the Man? Did everyone give that up? Or are people just doing it from within the system?

Beats me, maybe there just aren't enough reasons to be belligerent, larcenous, and vandalous (is that really a word?) against the establishment anymore. All that were kids back then are already too old to be trusted and everyone under thirty seems too apathetic.

I've got huge problems with the establishment, but I don't want to end up like Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.