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If they let him go though, I guess he doesn't get to be a martyr. :p
Aw, no more virgins for him? :(

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/05/guantanamo.arraignments/index.html

He told Kohlmann he could not accept any attorney because he only believes in Sharia, or Islamic law.

I would dearly love to have several prominent and respected muslim scholars come in to the court room and testify that under sharia law, he's a murderer and ought to be put to death. Then don't. I would like him to live a long and dull existence in prison until he rots away wondering if the muslim scholars were right about him.

Assuming, of course, he's found guilty which I question the likelihood as most ofthe evidence against him is probably going to be inadmissible. *shrug*

If they let him go though, I guess he doesn't get to be a martyr. :p

Let him rot in Gitmo.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/05/guantanamo.arraignments/index.html



I would dearly love to have several prominent and respected muslim scholars come in to the court room and testify that under sharia law, he's a murderer and ought to be put to death. Then don't. I would like him to live a long and dull existence in prison until he rots away wondering if the muslim scholars were right about him.

Assuming, of course, he's found guilty which I question the likelihood as most ofthe evidence against him is probably going to be inadmissible. *shrug*

If they let him go though, I guess he doesn't get to be a martyr. :p

sentence him to life per each count (count each 9/11 victim seperately) run consectuatively.
would that suite you?

1- Calling on Muslim scholars to testify would be a GREAT idea.

2- Giving him Death Penalty would be a TERRIBLE idea.

3- Getting him to a Texas prison and letting the inmates know who he is and what he'd LIKE to see happening to him (thus preventing them from murdering him) would be a GREAT idea.

4- Getting him to Gitmo, which is essentially a concentration camp, would be a TERRIBLE idea.

This was another GREAT Idea/TERRIBLE Idea

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sentence him to life per each count (count each 9/11 victim seperately) run consectuatively.
would that suite you?

Considering that, as I understand it, a life sentence means that it is possible to be paroled after 18 years, and considering that roughly 3,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks...that puts him as getting out of prison in about 56,000 AD or so. I'll be long dead, so hopefully they'll have discovered the cure for colossal, brainwashed, insane stupidity by then and ca apply it to him. Fine by me.

its a publicity stunt much like Mr Jackson and his child scandals

if found guilty he should be examined by shrinks in a reasonably comfortable cell and attempts should be made to rehabilitate him into a normal functioning member of sociaty :)

Considering that, as I understand it, a life sentence means that it is possible to be paroled after 18 years

Not for federal crimes. The federal government has eliminated the concept of "parole"

Not for federal crimes. The federal government has eliminated the concept of "parole"

did they? wow. news to me.

I guess then I don't feel bad about considering putting him in the Federal SuperMax so that he can't 'check himself out'.

(if it's as bad as some stories say it is.)

I think life in Times Square is appropriate. He is forbidden to leave Times Square for the rest of his life.

He won't last sixty seconds.

I think life in Times Square is appropriate. He is forbidden to leave Times Square for the rest of his life.

He won't last sixty seconds.

I live in a very dirty world (http://www.essential-architecture.com/tunick/NYC-Times%20Square1997.jpg)

its a publicity stunt much like Mr Jackson and his child scandals

if found guilty he should be examined by shrinks in a reasonably comfortable cell and attempts should be made to rehabilitate him into a normal functioning member of sociaty :)
I'm gonna pop the bubble you live in and forcefully tear off those rose colored glasses you view the world with. :rolleyes:

I'm gonna pop the bubble you live in and forcefully tear off those rose colored glasses you view the world with. :rolleyes:

are you coming onto me?

I live in a very dirty world (http://www.essential-architecture.com/tunick/NYC-Times%20Square1997.jpg)

Pr0n! :eek:

Seriously. It is. Sure you didn't give a bad link?

Pr0n! :eek:

art in which if you stain you can see like 3 penises

art in which if you stain you can see like 3 penises

In clear view, sticking out as if they just saw Hedi Klum in a bikini. O_o

It's in plain view, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

It's in plain view, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

considering it was allowed to go ahead in the center of one of the worlds commercial capitals in America of all places...:p

considering it was allowed to go ahead in the center of one of the worlds commercial capitals in America of all places...:p
...

That's.... Vaguely disturbing.

its a publicity stunt much like Mr Jackson and his child scandals

Are you saying that Al-Qaeda are about to release a greatest hits album?

Maybe bin Laden and Zawahiri will do a duet?

I think life in Times Square is appropriate. He is forbidden to leave Times Square for the rest of his life.

He won't last sixty seconds.

Oooh, I like that idea. A nice big glass box overlooking the square. Nothing to see, day and night, but the bright light of commercialism. It'd be like torture to him, but still allowable under international law. (as if that matters in the States:rolleyes:)

Oooh, I like that idea. A nice big glass box overlooking the square. Nothing to see, day and night, but the bright light of commercialism. It'd be like torture to him, but still allowable under international law. (as if that matters in the States:rolleyes:)

I think David Blaine might hold the copyright on that...

Let him rot in Gitmo.


AMEN. The last thing we need is another martyr. If he does get killed, he needs to be beheaded. It is a great insult to muslims and you can't go to heavan without one as I understand it.

art in which if you stain you can see like 3 penisesDid you really mean 'stain'? Is that some sort of innuendo?
:confused:

Maybe you meant strain... but that would be no where near as interesting. :(

Did you really mean 'stain'? Is that some sort of innuendo?
:confused:

Maybe you meant strain... but that would be no where near as interesting. :(

well, it depends on what is strained...

In clear view, sticking out as if they just saw Hedi Klum in a bikini. O_o

It's in plain view, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Already done that issue.

Khalid is pretty fine chap. I roomed with him in college.

Khalid is pretty fine chap. I roomed with him in college.

And I went to middle school with Osama Bin Laden...

Are you saying that Al-Qaeda are about to release a greatest hits album?

Come on. Who wouldnt buy that little gem!!?

sentence him to life per each count (count each 9/11 victim seperately) run consectuatively.
would that suite you?

Not unless he reincarnated directly into prison. :p

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/05/guantanamo.arraignments/index.html



I would dearly love to have several prominent and respected muslim scholars come in to the court room and testify that under sharia law, he's a murderer and ought to be put to death. Then don't. I would like him to live a long and dull existence in prison until he rots away wondering if the muslim scholars were right about him.

Assuming, of course, he's found guilty which I question the likelihood as most ofthe evidence against him is probably going to be inadmissible. *shrug*

If they let him go though, I guess he doesn't get to be a martyr. :p

I say keep him alive if and only if his prison cell is shared with full grown sows and boars.

I think life in Times Square is appropriate. He is forbidden to leave Times Square for the rest of his life.

He won't last sixty seconds.

That's just cruel. I'd be hard pressed to last sixty seconds myself.

Considering that, as I understand it, a life sentence means that it is possible to be paroled after 18 years, and considering that roughly 3,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks...that puts him as getting out of prison in about 56,000 AD or so. I'll be long dead, so hopefully they'll have discovered the cure for colossal, brainwashed, insane stupidity by then and ca apply it to him. Fine by me.

In the US, life without the possibility of parole means you're behind bars until you die. There is a life sentence with the possibility of parole, but I SERIOUSLY doubt that these guys will get that, if they're found guilty.

AMEN. The last thing we need is another martyr. If he does get killed, he needs to be beheaded. It is a great insult to muslims and you can't go to heavan without one as I understand it.

I didn't realize Heaven had a dress code. :p

I didn't realize Heaven had a dress code. :p

Maybe there's a height requirement.


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:D

In the US, life without the possibility of parole means you're behind bars until you die. There is a life sentence with the possibility of parole, but I SERIOUSLY doubt that these guys will get that, if they're found guilty.

I bet there is a shank with these guys names on it already sharpened up.

I didn't realize Heaven had a dress code. :p

Hope for your sake it includes oversized shoes and a red nose. That is your outfit right? Just the shoes and nose.... nothing else.

Hope for your sake it includes oversized shoes and a red nose. That is your outfit right? Just the shoes and nose.... nothing else.

Yes. And strategically applied make-up of course.

But fear not: All clowns go to Heaven. We're like dogs that way. We have our own room with easily washable surfaces, but it's still Heaven. :)

I bet there is a shank with these guys names on it already sharpened up.

They'll most likely go to a SuperMax prison, where it's doubtful they'll have much contact with the other inmates.

AMEN. The last thing we need is another martyr. If he does get killed, he needs to be beheaded. It is a great insult to muslims and you can't go to heavan without one as I understand it.

Oh yes, because we'll cut down on popular support and recruitment for Al'Qaeda by deliberately going out of our way to piss off and alienate Muslims even more than now.

:rolleyes:

They'll most likely go to a SuperMax prison, where it's doubtful they'll have much contact with the other inmates.

I think the times square box is a better idea.

Yes. And strategically applied make-up of course.

But fear not: All clowns go to Heaven. We're like dogs that way. We have our own room with easily washable surfaces, but it's still Heaven. :)

Yes LG, a white room, with no exit, surfaces that dirt won't stick to, and no features. Heaven for clowns. :p

The scene from Saw III where the guy is chained down and almost drowned from the results of the shredding machine?

Yeah, that is what he deserves...

It would dick up his whole "martyr" status too...

if found guilty he should be examined by shrinks in a reasonably comfortable cell and attempts should be made to rehabilitate him into a normal functioning member of sociaty :)

I know you meant this as sarcasm, but I actually think this would be an excellent case to use to establish the precedent of extreme religious conviction equating with clinical insanity. Has anyone been allowed to examine his brain, record its activity patterns?

I say place him under lifetime house arrest in some backwoods Appalachia cabin with a TV that doesn't turn off and plays nothing but Girls Gone Wild.

He ought to gouge his own eyes out inside of three days...methinks.

Or renounce Islam...either way. :p

Pr0n! :eek:

Seriously. It is. Sure you didn't give a bad link?

I'm not sure, it is art..

My main concerns are: how do we keep him from becoming a martyr?

One thought is to isolate him; then systematically remove him from history, name, image, even memory... But then who would we blame.

Another thought of mine is to put him in a clear plastic Human hamster cage, and yes, complete with running wheel. Then we feed him lots of food saturated with fat. We watch him grow fatter and fatter over time. Untill inevitably he dies the American death of clogged arteries.

Oh yes, because we'll cut down on popular support and recruitment for Al'Qaeda by deliberately going out of our way to piss off and alienate Muslims even more than now.

:rolleyes:

Regular Muslims don't give a shit about terrorists. Look at the lives they have taken within Muslim countries. Seriously the average Muslim wants to live their lives as they want like we do. They get pissed off at suicide bombings and the like too. For example in Morocco where the guys blew a night club up and hit a couple other targets were hunted down and shot in the street.

Regular Muslims don't give a shit about terrorists. Look at the lives they have taken within Muslim countries. Seriously the average Muslim wants to live their lives as they want like we do. They get pissed off at suicide bombings and the like too. For example in Morocco where the guys blew a night club up and hit a couple other targets were hunted down and shot in the street.

It doesn't help that you have idiot people with influence lumping up all Muslims as terrorists or terrorist supporters though.

Yes LG, a white room, with no exit, surfaces that dirt won't stick to, and no features. Heaven for clowns. :p

:eek:

:(

:eek:

:(

You are too comfortable for me to leave undisturbed. :D
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In the US, life without the possibility of parole means you're behind bars until you die. There is a life sentence with the possibility of parole, but I SERIOUSLY doubt that these guys will get that, if they're found guilty.

yes, but there is a sentence of Life where the person does get parole. thus it has to be stated that it's life w/o parole.

tho Neo also stated that Federal sentencing of life is w/o parole.

I know you meant this as sarcasm, but I actually think this would be an excellent case to use to establish the precedent of extreme religious conviction equating with clinical insanity. Has anyone been allowed to examine his brain, record its activity patterns?

who says I was being sarcastic, I generally think that we do live in the civilized world these days :confused:

I'm not sure, it is art..

I think this deserves a thread where it is seen what can be gotten away with in the name of art ;)

It doesn't help that you have idiot people with influence lumping up all Muslims as terrorists or terrorist supporters though.

It doesn't help when you have thousands of people go crazy, ruin cities and threaten murder over a cartoon.

It doesn't help when you have thousands of people go crazy, ruin cities and threaten murder over a cartoon.

Kimi wa kore wo katanai...

You want to talk about the belief that an entire group or most of it is represented by parts of it? By all means...

***Dealt from the bottom of the deck, spoken with poison in its voice, shed light upon the actual facts, seven times!***

***7th Flush***

Considering that a sizable part of the American population actually believes gays cause hurricanes, earthquakes and terrorist attacks, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population supported an entire war over NOTHING, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population doesn't believe in the Evolution of the species, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population thinks Israel is a tool for the upcoming Apocalypse, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population has "race" as a criteria to pick a Presidential candidate, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population thinks, despite all evidence, that torture is effective and ethical, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

Considering that a sizable part of the American population believes God is at the same time merciful and good and willing to send non-believers to Hell, NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY WERE IN LIFE, your point really isn't being helped by some of your peers.

These are seven reasons why I don't believe some people, even a sizable portion, of a given group, are representative of the rest. Do you?

...your hand, sir?

He should get a fair trial and stay in jail for the rest of his life if found guilty.

Too bad he won't get a fair trial.

It doesn't help when you have thousands of people go crazy, ruin cities and threaten murder over a cartoon.

I do hope you understand that it goes deeper than just that.

I bet there is a shank with these guys names on it already sharpened up.

When i read this the first time i read it as i bet there is a shark with these guys names on it and im like, yea and with a laser!

He should get a fair trial and stay in jail for the rest of his life if found guilty.

Too bad he won't get a fair trial.

I'm surprised he's getting a trial at all. America has no reputation to protect internationally, and people would masturbate in the streets if he was just summarily executed.

I'm surprised he's getting a trial at all. America has no reputation to protect internationally, and people would masturbate in the streets if he was just summarily executed.

I wouldn't.

At least not any more than I usually do...

When i read this the first time i read it as i bet there is a shark with these guys names on it and im like, yea and with a laser!

I wonder what the shark would be in for?

The scene from Saw III where the guy is chained down and almost drowned from the results of the shredding machine?

Yeah, that is what he deserves...

It would dick up his whole "martyr" status too...

He already got waterboarded.

This whole trial depresses me, because if convicted the defendant's a twat of the first water; but also because I get the feeling that the prosecution will be able to put through a lot of dodgy stuff regarding confessions under torture, and no-one will really oppose that because it's connected to 9/11, and it'll set a lot of precedents for it being allowed in general.

Clinton & Bush as heads of the conspiracy have killed more people with the wall of shame between Mexico and the USA than died in 9/11 and at the Berlin Wall combined. What should we do with them?

Clinton & Bush as heads of the conspiracy have killed more people with the wall of shame between Mexico and the USA than died in 9/11 and at the Berlin Wall combined. What should we do with them?

wall of shame :confused:

The man at least deserves a fair trial.

If he's found guilty however, they should drag him behind a truck to within an inch of his life then let him rot in his cell.

wall of shame :confused:

(s)he's trying to turn the subject away from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and focus it on the US.

thus trying to equate Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and 9/11 to the US and their attempt to keep illegal immigrants out.

in other words, "people flying planes full of people into a building full of people = all those who died trying to cross illegally into the us."

if not, then Kumiai is just rambling and trying to be a troll. ;)