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I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?

First to say congratulations.

One more year. Praise God, just one more year.

And congratulations, Mr. Fass.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?

Congrats on the impending graduation. And nice use of a Office Space reference. :D

BTW, I have an Associates degree in Computer Systems. After I finished my degree up, I realized that I didn't want to spend the next 20-30 years sitting behind a desk. I currently work for the US Post Office, and am outside in the good weather ( :D ), and the bad weather ( :( ). I work with a great group of people too, which helps.

I just graduated from high school (secondary) and am going to college next year.

So yeah, no plans except college and then hopefully I'll get a job in advertising. Or something.

Say, since you're a fancy doctor, now, my leg itches. Should I buy anti-itch cream, or amputate?

Congratulations, MD.:)

I wish I could answer in a few weeks, after I've graduated high school(actually, I won't get the report card for a while after that:( ).

Congrats on the impending graduation. And nice use of a Office Space reference. :D

BTW, I have an Associates degree in Computer Systems. After I finished my degree up, I realized that I didn't want to spend the next 20-30 years sitting behind a desk. I currently work for the US Post Office, and am outside in the good weather ( :D ), and the bad weather ( :( ). I work with a great group of people too, which helps.

So are you Cliff Clavin from Cheers or Newman from Seinfeld?

Another year of my Philosophy degree to go, but I'm thinking of staying on to do a Masters postgrad degree afterwords.

I just don't want to join the real world...

Mah mommy said I don't need no more school learnin'. I ain't goin' back. Ain't never gonna go back to get a good edumaction. *Iz joking... Or am I? :eek:*

My entry on the poll is kind of a lie. I have a graduate degree but it's not a Masters.

Nor is any of it useful. I have an AA in music, a BA in Film & Digital Media, and a graduate cert (one year graduate program) in Playwrighting. I'm unemployable!

I will complete my undergrad in about 18 hours (hopefully); I'd like to do further study, but at the moment that's highly contingent on finances. So I checked 'Bachelor's' in the poll, but may return sobbing on Friday to try to change my answer.

First to say congratulations.

Thank you, and to all who've congratulated me. You may stop now.

One more year. Praise God, just one more year.

One more year of what?

So yeah, no plans except college and then hopefully I'll get a job in advertising. Or something.

What sort of college and what are you taking?

Say, since you're a fancy doctor, now, my leg itches. Should I buy anti-itch cream, or amputate?

I'll tell you the same thing I told every patient when I did my dermatology rotation, for which I was quite unsuited: Put some aloe on it. Oh, and cortisone.

Another year of my Philosophy degree to go, but I'm thinking of staying on to do a Masters postgrad degree afterwords.

What sort of philosophy? There are some that have practical uses... :P

I just don't want to join the real world...

But there's Ben & Jerry's ice-cream here.

So are you Cliff Clavin from Cheers or Newman from Seinfeld?

Yes.

:D

I have a BA on Art History, an MA in curating and am currently working on getting my second MA on Japanese. I plan on getting my PhD, but that will have to wait a bit due to the financial implications. But I´ll get my doctorate as soon as I can.

My entry on the poll is kind of a lie. I have a graduate degree but it's not a Masters.

Nor is any of it useful. I have an AA in music, a BA in Film & Digital Media, and a graduate cert (one year graduate program) in Playwrighting. I'm unemployable!

Meh, at least you're not a waiter..

Congrats on the impending graduation. And nice use of a Office Space reference. :D

I was prouder of my Simpsons Treehouse of Horror one.

BTW, I have an Associates degree in Computer Systems. After I finished my degree up, I realized that I didn't want to spend the next 20-30 years sitting behind a desk. I currently work for the US Post Office, and am outside in the good weather ( :D ), and the bad weather ( :( ). I work with a great group of people too, which helps.

So, are the housewives and househusbands as slutty as we hear?

One more year of what?


Oh, sorry. One more year of University. I'm getting a BA in History.

I'm graduating from two bachelor's degrees in three weeks or so.

Nor is any of it useful. I have an AA in music, a BA in Film & Digital Media, and a graduate cert (one year graduate program) in Playwrighting. I'm unemployable!

How good are you at cleaning gutters? And would you be willing to accept payment without notifying the omnipotent Swedish tax authority? *does his best to support the cause of undocumented immigrants*

I'm graduating from two bachelor's degrees in three weeks or so.

In what?

I have an Associates degree, but since you left no option that fit that I was forced to choose Evil professor. I'm a Mad Scientist / Psychotic Dictator when I'm IC, so that was closest.

What sort of college and what are you taking?

I will be attending an art school for an Associate's degree in photography.
I'll tell you the same thing I told every patient when I did my dermatology rotation, for which I was quite unsuited: Put some aloe on it. Oh, and cortisone.

*takes advice*

I was prouder of my Simpsons Treehouse of Horror one.



So, are the housewives and househusbands as slutty as we hear?

Most of the people I deliver to are older folks (70+), so I don't care to know. However, I will say that I have delivered Victoria's Secret and Fredricks of Hollywood catalogs (as well as a few Playboy magazines) to the retirement community on several occasions. :eek:

I have an AS (C.O. '90) in early childhood education...And a BS (C.O. '93) in same...(long time ago *cough* *sputter* *wheeze*) I currently line my bird cage with both and work in the Hydroponics industry ;) :cool:

I'm finishing High School in two weeks, no idea what I'm doing after that. Probably University or something....

got the masters in philosophy, working on the phd

In what?
Economics and Business Management. The latter sucked though, so I'll be adding a year of Honours to my Econ next year.

So am I really graduating...well, I get to go to a ceremony and wear funny robes, so that's good enough for me.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?
First, congratulations. I know it's been a long journey and I hope you are rewarded for completing it.

Second, when I got my Ph.D. I put Dr. on my checks. For the short time I actually used checks after doing that, it's amazing how people looked back at me. My daughter always pointed out that I "wasn't that kind of doctor".

Good work, Doc.

Should be completing my doctorate in a year to a year and a half, depending on how well these next few experiments go....

I don't know if I'll use Dr. much, though. I've never got used to having any title in front of my name.

=)

Congrats, btw.

I have my BA and it's off to law school come August. Yay for dying a little inside!

I completed my Masters some ten years ago in England (History and philosophy of Science) have completed the required disciplines for a Masters degree here in Brazil, but have not yet written the dissertation (too much work and too little enthusiasm). I will probably abandon that project and go off and do professional course on financial derivatives or Oracle BIEE or something like that.

Which just shows that my Masters has not really been of any great professional value, but it was fun to do.

finishing up with my undergrad degree in political science. I am considering enrolling in seminary after this, and getting some sort of degree in Biblical history and/or archeology. I know what you are thinking: How the hell does political science and Biblical history go together?

finishing up with my undergrad degree in political science. I am considering enrolling in seminary after this, and getting some sort of degree in Biblical history and/or archeology. I know what you are thinking: How the hell does political science and Biblical history go together?

Actually, I could see exactly how those two could go together.....

=)

I am humbled by the fact that you are not going to lord your M.D. over every soul like I shall when I get my P.Eng.

Which obviously means that I am working to a Engineering degree. I have come to one conclusion thus far: I really fucking hate school. Though I am going to step it down a bit, and do only four classes per semester. Hopefully, that will allow me to reach the end of the next school year without a complete apathy for school. As for milestones, provided I pass, this coming fall semester will be my last math class in the program.

Being dumb enough to go for a transfer program from a smaller school, I got to experience the joys of classes not transferring, transferring as the wrong thing, or being completely unneeded firsthand. So I am in a bit of a mess progress wise. So yeah, I'll be done the math, but still taking the first year level core courses... fuck me.

Also, this is not your blog, Fass.

What sort of philosophy? There are some that have practical uses... :P
True dat.

Political and moral philosophy mostly, though in the final year (and if I do go on to do a Masters) I'm focusing on environmental ethics; social ecology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_ecology) and all that jazz.


got the masters in philosophy, working on the phd
If you don't mind, where did you do your masters and how did you enjoy it?

Studying philosophy at a postgrad level in the US is an idea I've been toying with for some time.

EDIT> Damn, that sounds cocky.

Bachelor's degree, at the end of the year it'll be a slight step up when I finish a graduate diploma.

*refrains from ticking off "primary school"*

Under normal circumstances, I'd be graduating from high school three weeks from now.

My education surpasses my paperwork.

Just completed my BA, no idea what I'm going to do now.

I have my BA and it's off to law school come August. Yay for dying a little inside!

That reminds me. How many lawyers does it take to shingle a roof?



Answer: Depends how thin you slice them. :D

Actually, I could see exactly how those two could go together.....

=)

Really now? Did you go about a similar path? Because most people I talk to get confused when I tell them that.

That reminds me. How many lawyers does it take to shingle a roof?



Answer: Depends how thin you slice them. :D

And one to take your case for when you fall off the roof!

Graduated high school last month, have college coming up, plan to go for a masters or doctorate in history or political science, or maybe law. Not sure.

I've still got another year before I can claim that damned B.A. in English the University overlords have been taunting me with, but it is within "sight" now. Sort of.

*Deep breath* BA in Secondary Education, English with teaching minor in Computer Education and a minor in Japanese Studies, and an MS in Counseling & Educational Psychology with emphasis in Information Technology in Education (Way too much alphabet soup there). Eventually I'll go for my Ph.D. in what is increasingly looking like Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL).

I don't think I'll insist on Dr. either, I've gotten too used to being called Sensei. ;)

I don't think I'll insist on Dr. either, I've gotten too used to being called Sensei. ;)
Far cooler.

just finished my BA in Political Science with minors in European history and Spanish last month. When I'm done teaching in Japan for a few years (starting in July), I'm planning on eventually earning a PhD in European history, concentrated on Spain.

Who knows, maybe sometime down the road, wherever it may be, I might actually meet Nanatsu.

Really now? Did you go about a similar path? Because most people I talk to get confused when I tell them that.

No, I went the bioengineering path. =)

But I did take 2 or 3 classes in religion when I was in undergrad - one of them on the history of Christian theology. And my husband took several poli sci courses. Given the ties between the development of theology and the politics of the times, it wouldn't surprise me to find that a degree in poli sci would be useful to someone studying Biblical history at the grad level.

How good are you at cleaning gutters? And would you be willing to accept payment without notifying the omnipotent Swedish tax authority? *does his best to support the cause of undocumented immigrants*

Well if you're paying in Euros then it'll make me almost loaded back home as our currency circles the bowl...but really, you could just send a robot (http://www.irobot.com/sp.cfm?pageid=354).

If you don't mind, where did you do your masters and how did you enjoy it?

Studying philosophy at a postgrad level in the US is an idea I've been toying with for some time.

i was out at the university of idaho, though the particular reason i went there is gone now. but its got a quite nice thing going - washington state university is just down the road and the philosophy depts of each have created a combined master's program, which gives quite a bit more breadth and flexibility than you would otherwise expect out of schools of their sizes.

if you are thinking of focusing on environmental ethics and the like, the major programs are typically considered colorado state university and the university of north texas (which now also has a phd program), with a bunch of other places - including idaho and sorta vaguely michigan state now - forming a sort of second tier.

i think north texas had a list of schools...

found it
http://www.cep.unt.edu/other.html

I've had the cheek to click "B.A.", even though it'll still be some weeks.

Oh, and: Congratulations. I'll have no Dr. in the world tell me where to stuff my appropriate utterances.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?

*wipes tear away*

they grow up so fast.


*humps as reward*


I graduated from Boston University May 18th with a BS in English education. Now it is on to the long job search.


Did you pick what specialization you're planning on going in to?

Economics and Business Management. The latter sucked though, so I'll be adding a year of Honours to my Econ next year.

So am I really graduating...well, I get to go to a ceremony and wear funny robes, so that's good enough for me.

So did you do two degrees at once, or is it a double?

And if it is the same thing I am going to whack myself over the head.

I don't graduate for another year after four years I think I have done enough yet I am still thinking about doing an honours years as my current GPA is way above the minimum mark (maybe a masters later on in life after I have worked a bit). I am doing Economics and Business, it is just the one degree though.

Congrats Dr. Fass

I fall between two options on your poll. I have completed a Bachelor's degree, before doing a Graduate Diploma and the Bar Vocational Course.

It's not a Master's, but it's two more years than a Bachelor's.

Congratulations, whether you like it or not :P

I left education and went in to full time employment at 16 for financial reasons. Now I'm approaching middle age and I am finally in a position to think about full time education again, having done a few part-time courses over the years. (yay for the Open University).

The question is what to study? I'm particularly interested in music and the brain but I'm not sure whether to approach it from the music therapy angle, working with people who have suffered brain damage for example, or study neurology. I fear my lack of formal education could make neurology quite difficult as I'd probably need quite a lot of preparatory education. I have good music skills and play the piano and flute to a high standard which gets me past the entry requirements for a music therapy degree. Although music therapy is probably a good thing to do, and very rewarding, it wouldn't satisfy my curiosity about how and why all this stuff works... its a nice quandary to be in :)

I recently built my first construction with complete disregard for the safety of myself or other humans. I then laugh evilly and loudly proclaimed its success. Mad Scientist level, yes.

So, who else is finishing what up?
I'm getting my BA this year. With luck, today will be my last exam and I'll get my degree in 3 weeks' time.

As for the future, well, I'm lucky enough to have quite a bit of savings in reserve, so I plan to spend a while getting my head on straight. I don't really know what I'm going to do, but the need to decide isn't immediate, so I'm going to spend a year writing, travelling, volunteering, doing some freelance/open source work and just generally developing a personality after the disaster that has been my university life.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places...
*flings confetti*
CONGRATU -Thank you, and to all who've congratulated me. You may stop now.
Oh, okay. *shrugs*

I still have three more years to go. If you don't mind me asking, do you intend to take up residency? What specialty?

Congratulations Doctor, whatever you say :p

I have completed a BSc in Psychology and an MSc in Forensic Psychology and I've currently got about a year and a bit left on my PhD. And yes, I will probably use the Dr., mostly because unlike Miss it won't make me sound like a spinster once I get past a certain age :D

GNVQ Level 1 in Trowel Occupations. That's it.

Thank you, and to all who've congratulated me. You may stop now.

Funny. Like you think that will happen. This is your extended family, pal. Like it or not, just about everyone that knows you should offer their congratulations. We're happy for you.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?
In theory I will be finishing my PhD in about a year, year and a half.

Of course, my parents each took 10 years to complete their dissertations, and I'm only on year four, so it could be a while yet...

And I intend to be one of those jackasses who insists on being called "Doctor," purely because I'm ALREADY having to deal with the annoying bullshit of "Is is Miss Bottle or Missus Bottle?"

Meh I was trying hard to just survive school, and so I left at the alloted time after my exams, which I passed well enough.

I have done some college linked to my career choices, so I have two City & Guilds, one for metalwork, and the other for IT and one MCP a loooong time ago for windows 3.11.

just finished my BA in Political Science with minors in European history and Spanish last month. When I'm done teaching in Japan for a few years (starting in July), I'm planning on eventually earning a PhD in European history, concentrated on Spain.

Who knows, maybe sometime down the road, wherever it may be, I might actually meet Nanatsu.

Ein?:eek:

i was out at the university of idaho, though the particular reason i went there is gone now. but its got a quite nice thing going - washington state university is just down the road and the philosophy depts of each have created a combined master's program, which gives quite a bit more breadth and flexibility than you would otherwise expect out of schools of their sizes.

if you are thinking of focusing on environmental ethics and the like, the major programs are typically considered colorado state university and the university of north texas (which now also has a phd program), with a bunch of other places - including idaho and sorta vaguely michigan state now - forming a sort of second tier.

i think north texas had a list of schools...

found it
http://www.cep.unt.edu/other.html
Cheers very much!

One of my lecturers, who's also my dissertation supervisor, used to be Professor of Philosophy and Environmental Studies at Colorado, so that's an interesting link. U of Glasgow seems to have links with U of Colorado in some way.

Are you wanting to go into philosophy academically, as a career?

I have, technically, a doctorate.

High school's what I've got completed.

Got about another year to go for my undergrad, and then its off to evil professor school.

i've got an MA but i work as a waiter and bartender. i've got no intentions to mooch off the state cuz i actually really enjoy my job. at present no job that would use my degree is at all appealing to me and i am still seriously considering retraining as a mechanic although i've not really found anywhere i could do that on a flexible part-time basis. plus i'd need help funding that sort of endeavour.

I have, technically, a doctorate.

Isn't that what the "D" is in J.D.?

In theory I will be finishing my PhD in about a year, year and a half.

Of course, my parents each took 10 years to complete their dissertations, and I'm only on year four, so it could be a while yet...

And I intend to be one of those jackasses who insists on being called "Doctor," purely because I'm ALREADY having to deal with the annoying bullshit of "Is is Miss Bottle or Missus Bottle?"

Weird. A lot of profs in this department just have people call them by their first names. And that includes students calling them by their first names.

Weird. A lot of profs in this department just have people call them by their first names. And that includes students calling them by their first names.
Same in my department.

Though we're an unusually small and close-knit dept. There's a weekend each year of Honours where students and staff go away to a retreat to discuss philosophy, eat good food and get pished.

Great fun. :p

Weird. A lot of profs in this department just have people call them by their first names. And that includes students calling them by their first names.
I made a post about this some time back. First names are really the new 'formality', in a way. Almost no one ever introduces another as Mr or M(s/rs/iss) Cleaver anymore, but always as Ward or June.

The exceptions are with foreign guests. We bend over backwards to introduce someone as Kagi-san, or Mr Dileep, and so on.

I made a post about this some time back. First names are really the new 'formality', in a way. Almost no one ever introduces another as Mr or M(s/rs/iss) Cleaver anymore, but always as Ward or June.

The exceptions are with foreign guests. We bend over backwards to introduce someone as Kagi-san, or Mr Dileep, and so on.

It's an unusual trend, but I like it. Strips away a lot of the pomp and sillyness that is referring to everyone as Dr. this and Professor that.

The second part I haven't seen, but that's likely due to a lack of exposure to foreign guests that aren't family or friends of family. Probably something you see more often at the corporate level.

I have a bachelor's degree in physics. What else would a physical comedian have? :D

The exceptions are with foreign guests. We bend over backwards to introduce someone as Kagi-san, or Mr Dileep, and so on.
I suppose it's part of that Anglocised love of showing off how cultured and foreign-friendly we are.

Reminds me of paella (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfN4_52loC4).

I have a bachelor's degree in physics. What else would a physical comedian have? :D

A routine?

Isn't that what the "D" is in J.D.?

yes, a "JD" is a "juris doctorate" or "doctor of jurisprudence". Because it is a doctorate, I have a doctorate level of education (which is about right, because lawschool, full time takes 3 academic years and has a very comprehensive final exam, which is about equal to the time it would take to do a PhD in many fields full time, so a JD is comparable, in terms of quantity of work, to many PhD programs).

It is considered a "professional doctorate" (IE a doctorate, the holders of which, are primarily engaged in professional work and not academic research and scholarship). Under the American Bar Association rules, it would not be inappropriate for a lawyer to refer to himself as "doctor", however most lawyers don't, for four primary reasons:

1) because lawyers are not often refered to as "doctors" in our country

2) professional courtesy to not dillute the the term "doctor", as well as to distance ourselves from medical doctors, as well as most PhDs which are primarily research PhDs

3) we already have a professional title, namely, "esquire"

4) to not be total fucking douchebags who insist on being called "doctor"

High school's what I've got completed.

Got about another year to go for my undergrad, and then its off to evil professor school.

if you have three years of college completed you likely qualify for an associate's degree.

if you have three years of college completed you likely qualify for an associate's degree.

I qualify, but have not officially obtained one. It might technically be correct, but I certainly don't feel like I've earned one.

yes, a "JD" is a "juris doctorate" or "doctor of jurisprudence". Because it is a doctorate, I have a doctorate level of education (which is about right, because lawschool, full time takes 3 academic years and has a very comprehensive final exam, which is about equal to the time it would take to do a PhD in many fields full time, so a JD is comparable, in terms of quantity of work, to many PhD programs).

It is considered a "professional doctorate" (IE a doctorate, the holders of which, are primarily engaged in professional work and not academic research and scholarship). Under the American Bar Association rules, it would not be inappropriate for a lawyer to refer to himself as "doctor", however most lawyers don't, for four primary reasons:

1) because lawyers are not often refered to as "doctors" in our country

2) professional courtesy to not dillute the the term "doctor", as well as to distance ourselves from medical doctors, as well as most PhDs which are primarily research PhDs

3) we already have a professional title, namely, "esquire"

4) to not be total fucking douchebags who insist on being called "doctor"

When I finish my doctorate everyone will call me Dr. even the children. I will me Dr. mom.

I am graduating in two days and getting my degree of Master of Science in Medicine (if my last exam passes), allowing me to add that little "M.D." after my name in certain places and to be the type of douche who corrects people when they say "Mr." instead of "Dr." (NB. I hate people who correct like that with a passion, even though it is thankfully quite rare in Sweden where titles are very rarely used outside of formal written language; the Royals being exempt of course, but their uppance shall come sooner or later).

Anyhoo, the imminent culmination of my illustrious and already ridiculously long academic career (doctoral thesis you said? Where's the money in that? Being poor has really become a bummer as of late...) has got me thinking about the highest completed level of edumacation of this place.

So, who else is finishing what up? Happy about it and have a job lined up, or are you bitter and looking forward to mooching off the state in between temporary jobs at burger joints that, face it, you'll inevitably get fired from anyway because you're not perky enough or don't decorate your uniform with enough pieces of flair?

Also, before I forget:

Glückwünsche!

(Couldn't find the Swedish equivalent)

A routine?

'Routine' sounds so.... dull. I prefer to call it a 'performance'.

couple of years of community college and university, allong with odd classess here and there on and off much of my life, (constantly shifitng potential major) and fallowing professional journals in fields that intrest me whenever i'm close enough to a university library to visit and read them.

what can i say? what's the fun of completing anything? the gratification is all in the ongoing doing, so why should i want it to ever end?

i did complete both primary and highschool, 'on schedule and under budget' so to speak, though the latter perhapse by the skin of my teeth. yet i breezed my s.a.t.'s and matriculated at a fairly prestegous geology and minerology school with virtually no sweat. all of that being MANY years ago.

=^^=
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Same in my department.

Though we're an unusually small and close-knit dept. There's a weekend each year of Honours where students and staff go away to a retreat to discuss philosophy, eat good food and get pished.

Great fun. :p

It's the same in our department, well apart from the retreat part, but we're generally very informal. Although we do have our annual Student v Staff cricket match, which is often a laugh.

Same in my department.

Though we're an unusually small and close-knit dept. There's a weekend each year of Honours where students and staff go away to a retreat to discuss philosophy, eat good food and get pished.

Great fun. :p

Our department's tiny, and somewhat reclusive in general. We do have biannual get togethers for pizza and presentations, but mostly each research group in the department keeps to itself.

i graduate freom high school next week.:)

Congratulations, whether you like it or not :P

I left education and went in to full time employment at 16 for financial reasons. Now I'm approaching middle age and I am finally in a position to think about full time education again, having done a few part-time courses over the years. (yay for the Open University).

The question is what to study? I'm particularly interested in music and the brain but I'm not sure whether to approach it from the music therapy angle, working with people who have suffered brain damage for example, or study neurology. I fear my lack of formal education could make neurology quite difficult as I'd probably need quite a lot of preparatory education. I have good music skills and play the piano and flute to a high standard which gets me past the entry requirements for a music therapy degree. Although music therapy is probably a good thing to do, and very rewarding, it wouldn't satisfy my curiosity about how and why all this stuff works... its a nice quandary to be in :)

You could always end up going with music therapy and then partnering with a neuroscience lab for research. That way you'd be working with someone with all the neuro experience wh ocould explain it to you and seeing the data, but without the neuro degree.

Just a thought.

I've an MA but I'll probably go back and do an LLM in Edinburgh in a year or so.

Congrats Fass!

Weird. A lot of profs in this department just have people call them by their first names. And that includes students calling them by their first names.

I think that tends to be regional. My adviser has been rather frustrated with our reluctance to call her by her first name. But it just seems weird. When she was at Michigan, though, that was the norm.

I've completed 3 of 4 years to get a BS in Civil Engineering. After that I may get my Phd.

Also, do all you guys get BA's in english (aka most useless degree ever)? geez.

It's the same in our department, well apart from the retreat part, but we're generally very informal. Although we do have our annual Student v Staff cricket match, which is often a laugh.
I can imagine!

We run a Philosophy Football league every term, but as yet, no staff member has entered. One questions their fitness... :p

Our department's tiny, and somewhat reclusive in general. We do have biannual get togethers for pizza and presentations, but mostly each research group in the department keeps to itself.
That's a shame.

It seems I'm not the only semi-professional student here.

I have an AS in Electronics Technology (1978), BS in Computer Systems (2001), and a Masters' Certificate (about half of a Master's Degree) in Information Systems (2003). With any luck, I might get the MBA/IS done in another few years or so. As an earlier post pointed out, finishing isn't nearly so much fun as going, though it has been a long trip.

In theory I will be finishing my PhD in about a year, year and a half.

Of course, my parents each took 10 years to complete their dissertations, and I'm only on year four, so it could be a while yet...

And I intend to be one of those jackasses who insists on being called "Doctor," purely because I'm ALREADY having to deal with the annoying bullshit of "Is is Miss Bottle or Missus Bottle?"

Only on year 4? I'm in my 5th. I'll be done by 6-6 1/2 though. I'm determined. =)

Nothing like having your first thesis project crash and burn and going through two instances in which an adviser moves away.

I'm graduating from high school tomorrow! :D

The question is what to study? I'm particularly interested in music and the brain but I'm not sure whether to approach it from the music therapy angle, working with people who have suffered brain damage for example, or study neurology. I fear my lack of formal education could make neurology quite difficult as I'd probably need quite a lot of preparatory education. I have good music skills and play the piano and flute to a high standard which gets me past the entry requirements for a music therapy degree. Although music therapy is probably a good thing to do, and very rewarding, it wouldn't satisfy my curiosity about how and why all this stuff works... its a nice quandary to be in :)

There is someone in our department doing quite interesting work into how music is represented in our short-term memory (and indeed supervised by Graham Hitch, the person who helped develop the currently widely accepted model of short-term memory processes), so there is research currently going on in terms of Music Psychology (and associated neurological/neuropsychological processes).

However, I think this is a topic generally provided at Masters level. It may be worth studying Psychology to begin with (current Psychology degrees, at lease in the UK, do have considerable neurological and neuropsychological components because it is quite vital to the subject), then focus in on Music Psychology, which will no doubt cover things like Music Therapy as well as the neurological side of it and everything in between.

Only on year 4? I'm in my 5th. I'll be done by 6-6 1/2 though. I'm determined. =)

Nothing like having your first thesis project crash and burn and going through two instances in which an adviser moves away.

What is the average length of a PhD course in the US then? Taking over four years is rare here, with most taking between 3 to 4. However, I also believe they are structurally different, with UK (and I believe a lot of european) PhDs being almost entirely research based with little to no taught components. Although there is a move now towards encouraging people more to do a Masters first, with research councils offering a lot of 1 + 3 funding (1 year of Masters, 3 years of PhD).

What is the average length of a PhD course in the US then? Taking over four years is rare here, with most taking between 3 to 4. However, I also believe they are structurally different, with UK (and I believe a lot of european) PhDs being almost entirely research based with little to no taught components. Although there is a move now towards encouraging people more to do a Masters first, with research councils offering a lot of 1 + 3 funding (1 year of Masters, 3 years of PhD).

I don't know about how it is in general, but in Physics the average range I've heard is 3.5 to 5, counting your first two years which is largely course work.

I think that tends to be regional. My adviser has been rather frustrated with our reluctance to call her by her first name. But it just seems weird. When she was at Michigan, though, that was the norm.

What's funny in the case of the prof I work for is that there are students, generally freshmen, who can't seem to get it into their heads to call him by his first name. So we have a few funny instances every semester where a student calls him "Professor *first name*"

Something us more experienced lab goons use as an opportunity to poke fun at him.

What is the average length of a PhD course in the US then? Taking over four years is rare here, with most taking between 3 to 4. However, I also believe they are structurally different, with UK (and I believe a lot of european) PhDs being almost entirely research based with little to no taught components. Although there is a move now towards encouraging people more to do a Masters first, with research councils offering a lot of 1 + 3 funding (1 year of Masters, 3 years of PhD).

It really depends on whether or not a Masters is first and what the subject is. The time to complete a PhD is usually shorter if the person already has a Masters.

In my program, where most of us go straight from Bachelors to the PhD program, the usual is about 5 years. The first 2 to 2 1/2 years involves classes along with some research, and then research from there on out.

What is the average length of a PhD course in the US then? Taking over four years is rare here, with most taking between 3 to 4. However, I also believe they are structurally different, with UK (and I believe a lot of european) PhDs being almost entirely research based with little to no taught components. Although there is a move now towards encouraging people more to do a Masters first, with research councils offering a lot of 1 + 3 funding (1 year of Masters, 3 years of PhD).
The main difference that a colleague and I discuss very often is that in Europe, the U.K. explicitly, the department and advisers are there to PASS the student. They encourage the student and do everything possible to make him PASS.

At schools like Georgia Tech, we strive to make the student FAIL, or at least take a very long time to graduate. We set up many obstacles that hinder him from his freshman year of undergrad. Then, as the big day approaches and we see the possibility of our slave labor leaving, we find a serious deficiency in his thesis, require another math class, or just go on a long vacation so that we're unavailable to help out. Sometimes we even turn the student over to a new adviser and virtually make him start over.

What I used to tell students with a M.S. degree that I could get them through in 3 years. I lied. It was almost always more like 4 to 5.

The main difference that a colleague and I discuss very often is that in Europe, the U.K. explicitly, the department and advisers are there to PASS the student. They encourage the student and do everything possible to make him PASS.

At schools like Georgia Tech, we strive to make the student FAIL, or at least take a very long time to graduate. We set up many obstacles that hinder him from his freshman year of undergrad. Then, as the big day approaches and we see the possibility of our slave labor leaving, we find a serious deficiency in his thesis, require another math class, or just go on a long vacation so that we're unavailable to help out. Sometimes we even turn the student over to a new adviser and virtually make him start over.

What I used to tell students with a M.S. degree that I could get them through in 3 years. I lied. It was almost always more like 4 to 5.

I'm not certain how it is with PhDs, but I can assure you there are places in Europe where they try and get as many people to fail as possible, Belgian undergraduate courses for example where I believe (from my Belgian firends) that there is an expectation that only a small proportion who start will finish.

But yes, in the UK there is a lot of emphasis on a PhD being a research apprenticeship, with support given the student to help them produce a good, and of significant impact, piece of research. Although, a lot of departments also have a tendency nowadays to first enrol students on an MPhil and then upgrade them about half way through. So that if students start then decide this isn;t what they want to do with 3 to 4 years of their life, then they can still come out with a qualification. This said, I do know a lot of people who've gone through their viva and then had to make significant corrections before they will be passed or indeed had it downgraded to an MPhil, so the quality control is there.

Of course, I suspect this more helpful attitude is because the research councils penalise the departments if students take longer than 4 years and it looks very good if most manage to complete in 3.

Of course, I suspect this more helpful attitude is because the research councils penalise the departments if students take longer than 4 years and it looks very good if most manage to complete in 3.
That is precisely what my friend has told me. The same should be true here, but it almost seems that exact opposite. One has to be extremely determined to make it from undergrad to Ph.D.

That is precisely what my friend has told me. The same should be true here, but it almost seems that exact opposite. One has to be extremely determined to make it from undergrad to Ph.D.

Hell, one has to be extremely determined to make it from undergrad to B.S. (or B.A. I think what you get from a Physics degrees differs from university to university. Our program is definitely a B.S., but I've heard some schools give out B.A.'s)

I'm waiting for some A-level results to arrive (I took a few years off and as such I do part-time/OU because I can't stand being poor :p)

however I have a few crappy certificates floating around that seem to impress employers to no end ;)

The main difference that a colleague and I discuss very often is that in Europe, the U.K. explicitly, the department and advisers are there to PASS the student. They encourage the student and do everything possible to make him PASS.

At schools like Georgia Tech, we strive to make the student FAIL, or at least take a very long time to graduate. We set up many obstacles that hinder him from his freshman year of undergrad. Then, as the big day approaches and we see the possibility of our slave labor leaving, we find a serious deficiency in his thesis, require another math class, or just go on a long vacation so that we're unavailable to help out. Sometimes we even turn the student over to a new adviser and virtually make him start over.

What I used to tell students with a M.S. degree that I could get them through in 3 years. I lied. It was almost always more like 4 to 5.

^This.

It all sounds familiar.

Tech treats its grad students better than undergrad, but the undergrads really get the shaft, as it were. =)

^This.

It all sounds familiar.

Tech treats its grad students better than undergrad, but the undergrads really get the shaft, as it were. =)

You know the funny thing, our department's got it backwards. Us UGs get treated like royalty by the department because they have such a big problem with getting domestic grad school students.

Hell, one has to be extremely determined to make it from undergrad to B.S. (or B.A. I think what you get from a Physics degrees differs from university to university. Our program is definitely a B.S., but I've heard some schools give out B.A.'s)
Why would we want to spoil you? Tech claimed a few years back that there were no longer any weed-out classes. And if you believe that ...

^This.

It all sounds familiar.

Tech treats its grad students better than undergrad, but the undergrads really get the shaft, as it were. =)
I believe "getting the spike" would be more appropriate to GT. Isn't that what that ugly thing in front of the bookstore was built for?

The question is what to study? I'm particularly interested in music and the brain but I'm not sure whether to approach it from the music therapy angle, working with people who have suffered brain damage for example, or study neurology. I fear my lack of formal education could make neurology quite difficult as I'd probably need quite a lot of preparatory education. I have good music skills and play the piano and flute to a high standard which gets me past the entry requirements for a music therapy degree. Although music therapy is probably a good thing to do, and very rewarding, it wouldn't satisfy my curiosity about how and why all this stuff works... its a nice quandary to be in :)

To do something focusing on music therapy would probably be a graduate course. However, if you can find somewhere that'll let you do undergrad courses in both music and psychology (joint honours or something) that'll be a good start in the direction your looking in :)


OP: I'm currently at the end of my second year of a BA in Music.

I was prouder of my Simpsons Treehouse of Horror one.
I have scanned your post five times now looking for that reference. The closest I came up with was the use of the word "edumacation." Please, please tell me what I'm missing so I can go to sleep!

Oh, and congratulations. You probably already mentioned this, but what type of doctor will you be, exactly? A general practitioner?

EDIT: Never mind about the Simpson reference. I just saw the poll.

I believe "getting the spike" would be more appropriate to GT. Isn't that what that ugly thing in front of the bookstore was built for?

We Tech students call it the shaft. (And it has, on at least one occasion, been ready for safe sex).

It's real name is The Campanile.

Just completed my freshman year at college, majoring in astrophysics.

Studying philosophy at a postgrad level in the US is an idea I've been toying with for some time.

EDIT> Damn, that sounds cocky.

Do you have any idea where in the US? Sorry for being nosy, but I really enjoy hearing people talk about where they went or are going to school. Maybe it's living in a college town.

(I've already voted/posted as Quintessence of Dust, but just an update...)

I do now officially have a BA, first class. And, in an action I have wanted to do for three years of NS...

* runs naked through the thread *

We Tech students call it the shaft. (And it has, on at least one occasion, been ready for safe sex).

It's real name is The Campanile.

Shucks. I had been long gone by the time that mess was erected. I can't imagine how much the Olympics must have screwed up the campus.

Why would we want to spoil you? Tech claimed a few years back that there were no longer any weed-out classes. And if you believe that ...

Strangely enough, I've always done better at weed-out classes than some of the regular classes you're just supposed to suffer through. Quantum, this past Fall, was the first time I sat down and seriously asked myself if continuing on this academic/career path was really a smart idea. After properly thrashing most of the other courses thrown my way.
Taking Diff Eq the same semester probably didn't help. Taking classes out of sequence isn't fun.


...also, fuck IDL. With a rusty spoon.

We Tech students call it the shaft. (And it has, on at least one occasion, been ready for safe sex).

It's real name is The Campanile.

Heh, back when I was at Drexel there was an old factory smoke stack slightly off campus that was visible from most of campus that we used to affectionately refer to as the "Drexel Shaft." Wasn't even owned by Drexel, but it was sort of ours in a cultural sense.
Someone even made a flash game at one point of the University's president firing students out of it like a giant cannon.

Shucks. I had been long gone by the time that mess was erected. I can't imagine how much the Olympics must have screwed up the campus.

Is this the big Lady Liberty torch/oil rig in Atlanta? The one I see every time I go to that hot dog place?

You could always end up going with music therapy and then partnering with a neuroscience lab for research. That way you'd be working with someone with all the neuro experience wh ocould explain it to you and seeing the data, but without the neuro degree.

Just a thought.

It's a good thought, and something I'd not considered before - and at first glance seems like the answer. Thank you!

*goes to investigate*

There is someone in our department doing quite interesting work into how music is represented in our short-term memory (and indeed supervised by Graham Hitch, the person who helped develop the currently widely accepted model of short-term memory processes), so there is research currently going on in terms of Music Psychology (and associated neurological/neuropsychological processes).

However, I think this is a topic generally provided at Masters level. It may be worth studying Psychology to begin with (current Psychology degrees, at lease in the UK, do have considerable neurological and neuropsychological components because it is quite vital to the subject), then focus in on Music Psychology, which will no doubt cover things like Music Therapy as well as the neurological side of it and everything in between.

That sounds interesting, and is exactly the type of thing that piques my curiosity. You are right about it being masters level, but I was looking at this course http://www.nordoff-robbins.org.uk/musicTherapy/trainingAndEducation/masterInMusicTherapy.html

where I meet the entrance requirements and which seems to cover some of the whys and wherefores as well as the practical therapy. I'm slightly hesitant because I don't know enough about the organisation to know if this is kosher.

Edit: I will be attending an Open Evening next week, so should know more after that :)

I'm currently working on my Bachelor's Degree in Anthropology with an Emphasis in Archaeology. Currently on field school, digging up a Cheyenne site in North Dakota. Should gradumatate in a year and a half.

And congrats Fass. Nice work!

Congrats Fass!


I have a BS in Computer Information Systems.

I am currently working on getting a Bachelor of Science degree in a specific field of broadcast journalism. My field focuses on being an effective talking head, talk show radio host, or White House press secretary.

That's right, I'm working on a BS...in BS. *bah dum, tssssssh!*

Strangely enough, I've always done better at weed-out classes than some of the regular classes you're just supposed to suffer through. Quantum, this past Fall, was the first time I sat down and seriously asked myself if continuing on this academic/career path was really a smart idea. After properly thrashing most of the other courses thrown my way.
Taking Diff Eq the same semester probably didn't help. Taking classes out of sequence isn't fun.


...also, fuck IDL. With a rusty spoon.
They are more challenging... I took electromagnetics before I took vector calculus and was overwhelmed by Maxwell's equations, among other things. When I got to the vector calc class, they were simple to solve.

They are more challenging... I took electromagnetics before I took vector calculus and was overwhelmed by Maxwell's equations, among other things. When I got to the vector calc class, they were simple to solve.

Yeah the same thing happened with me in Diff Eq. Was doing most of it in my sleep. But I scraped by in QM with a C+, and wasn't happy about it.

2 years of a BScEcon but dropped out after that. so if we're talking completed qualifications, its 3 A-Levels and 2 AS's for me. which is pretty average


i have a friend who's just about to get his well-earned M.D.... well done, Mr Fass :)

I'm currently in between my second and third year of college, studying Marketing and Political Science. Plan to get my Masters of Business Administration after that or take up Public Policy.

I will be graduating from HS in 3 weeks.

I pity the bodies and the souls of those who come in contact with this butcher.

On a brighter note, I have attained a PHD in Economics.

Okay, I know you don't want anyone congratulating you, Fass, but job well done.

I have two more years of university yet before I get my bachelor's degree in chemical engineering. Then I want my Ph.D., which will take me another five years. Maybe after that I'll head out into the real world. :)

Ossama Obama;13746297']I pity the bodies and the souls of those who come in contact with this butcher.

Butcher, huh? So I'm guessing you picked option 1?

Ossama Obama;13746297']I pity the bodies and the souls of those who come in contact with this butcher.

You have a degree as a butcher? :eek:

Thank you, and to all who've congratulated me. You may stop now.
Feigned modesty.

i was out at the university of idaho, though the particular reason i went there is gone now. but its got a quite nice thing going - washington state university is just down the road and the philosophy depts of each have created a combined master's program, which gives quite a bit more breadth and flexibility than you would otherwise expect out of schools of their sizes.

if you are thinking of focusing on environmental ethics and the like, the major programs are typically considered colorado state university and the university of north texas (which now also has a phd program), with a bunch of other places - including idaho and sorta vaguely michigan state now - forming a sort of second tier.

i think north texas had a list of schools...

found it
http://www.cep.unt.edu/other.html

They gave you a degree? Wow, they must have been really desperate to get you out of there...

Butcher, huh? So I'm guessing you picked option 1?

You have a degree as a butcher? :eek:
T'was in reference to the OP. I had not expected you to be so dense. I already stated which discipline I hold a PHD in.

Okay, I know you don't want anyone congratulating you, Fass, but job well done.

I have two more years of university yet before I get my bachelor's degree in chemical engineering. Then I want my Ph.D., which will take me another five years. Maybe after that I'll head out into the real world. :)

The what?

You have a degree as a butcher? :eek:

Beat you to it.

I sorta lied in the poll, I'm currently still working on the Masters exams & thesis.

i was out at the university of idaho, though the particular reason i went there is gone now. but its got a quite nice thing going - washington state university is just down the road and the philosophy depts of each have created a combined master's program, which gives quite a bit more breadth and flexibility than you would otherwise expect out of schools of their sizes.

if you are thinking of focusing on environmental ethics and the like, the major programs are typically considered colorado state university and the university of north texas (which now also has a phd program), with a bunch of other places - including idaho and sorta vaguely michigan state now - forming a sort of second tier.

i think north texas had a list of schools...

found it
http://www.cep.unt.edu/other.html
At what cost was your Masters purchased? Or was it gifted? I'm afraid that exhausts all possible options.

Ossama Obama;13746315']T'was in reference to the OP. I had not expected you to be so dense. I already stated which discipline I hold a PHD in.

Very nice. An unnecessary personal attack on two posters at once. I was joking, you idiot.


EDIT: if your latest post was meant for me, save your breath. I can't see it; you're on my ignore list now.

Very nice. An unnecessary personal attack on two posters at once. I was joking, you idiot.

The best way to blunten the presence sarcasm is to ignore it.

Very nice. An unnecessary personal attack on two posters at once. I was joking, you idiot.

Pot, meet kettle.

EDIT: if your latest post was meant for me, save your breath. I can't see it; you're on my ignore list now.

The coward's way out. How typical.

Pot, meet kettle.



The coward's way out. How typical.

I see it as self-preservation. If I leave him (or is he you?) off ignore, sooner or later I'll say something to get myself banned.

I see it as self-preservation. If I leave him (or is he you?) off ignore, sooner or later I'll say something to get myself banned.

Banned from this cesspool? What a loss.

Ossama Obama;13746315']T'was in reference to the OP. I had not expected you to be so dense. I already stated which discipline I hold a PHD in.

I'm going to doubt you have Ph.D.

Guess why.

I'm going to doubt you have Ph.D.

Guess why.
I don't even care.

Guess why.

Banned from this cesspool? What a loss.

If this is a cesspool, you certainly seem to enjoy swimming in shit.

I'm going to doubt you have Ph.D.

Guess why.
Burn. :D

If this is a cesspool, you certainly seem to enjoy swimming in shit.

I have far too much time on my hands.

Do you have any idea where in the US? Sorry for being nosy...
Not at all.

I'm not at the stage yet where I've any concrete plans (for one thing, I've still got a whole year to go), but I've heard good things about Rutgers, NYU, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Colorado State, Penn State and the big three of Harvard, Princeton and Stanford.

I'm sure there's others, but I've little to go on but word of mouth.

Not at all.

I'm not at the stage yet where I've any concrete plans (for one thing, I've still got a whole year to go), but I've heard good things about Rutgers, NYU, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Colorado State, Penn State and the big three of Harvard, Princeton and Stanford.

I'm sure there's others, but I've little to go on but word of mouth.

Well what are your grades/SAT scores? That sort of dictates whether you could get into some of the better schools or not.

Well what are your grades/SAT scores? That sort of dictates whether you could get into some of the better schools or not.
Ken. That's why I'm waiting nervously for my Junior Honours results.

We don't have SATs in the UK, but I'm on target for a upper second or, with a bit of hard work next year, a first class Honours degree. A first could get me into the vast majority of postgrad philosophy courses in the UK; don't know about the US. A second, combined with some ass-kissing, could probably do the same, but I'd be screwed for funding.

Apparently, the US is better for funding than the UK, more moollah floating about.

I have a Bachelor's of Science in Graphic Art.

Imagine how sad i was to find out that BS stood for Bull Shit.


Congrats btw, may you do better than I.

I have a Bachelor's of Science in Graphic Art.

Imagine how sad i was to find out that BS stood for Bull Shit.


Congrats btw, may you do better than I.

Wait, why is that a BS and not a BA?

Wait, why is that a BS and not a BA?

You know.. come to think of it I have no idea, perhaps I should look into that...

On second thought, maybe its because of the more technical nature as opposed to the artistic nature?

Wait, why is that a BS and not a BA?

Cause Graphic art is load of BS (sorry SaintB but somebody had to say it) :)

Cause Graphic art is load of BS (sorry SaintB but somebody had to say it) :)

Actually its a rapidly evolving field that drives the entire advertising industry forward. Yeah.. BS

Actually its a rapidly evolving field that drives the entire advertising industry forward. Yeah.. BS

:D

Congratulations, Fass -- that's an impressive accomplishment.

As for me, I have my MM in Choral Conducting. In other words, once the oil runs out, I'll be next to useless. Fun stuff.

I just recieved my Associates degree in the dubious category of "Arts and Sciences", which is basically just a way to be certified as indecisive. :p

I plan to enroll at UW Madison next year and work on getting a bachelors, although I'm still indecisive as to what subject I want to focus on (Poli Sci, History, Journalism, Sociology)...possibly a combination of two of those.

I've just completed my bachelors, and I shall be attending graduate school, seeking my MPA on partial fellowship this Autumn. I also like beer.

I have a signed shirt to prove I did my <4 years.

Congratulations.

I am a third year university student. Still quite a lot of work ahead of me before I have my Bachelor's.

where I meet the entrance requirements and which seems to cover some of the whys and wherefores as well as the practical therapy. I'm slightly hesitant because I don't know enough about the organisation to know if this is kosher.

Find out which organisations they claim have accredited them and gives their degrees. Check with said organisations if this is the case. If it's a degree program there will be a University issuing it, that should give you an idea how kosher it is.



We don't have SATs in the UK, but I'm on target for a upper second or, with a bit of hard work next year, a first class Honours degree. A first could get me into the vast majority of postgrad philosophy courses in the UK; don't know about the US. A second, combined with some ass-kissing, could probably do the same, but I'd be screwed for funding.



I don't think there's any official grade equivalencies, but last time I saw a chart 1st were generally equated to having got As on most or all your work, 2.1s were mix of As and Bs, but mostly Bs. Not sure how that translates into a GPA though.

Find out which organisations they claim have accredited them and gives their degrees. Check with said organisations if this is the case. If it's a degree program there will be a University issuing it, that should give you an idea how kosher it is.



Its City University London which seems to be a better than average university and focuses on healthcare and the professions. Their part-time course in Manchester is run at The Royal Northern College which is pretty top notch too. I can feel some studying coming on... :)

"I'm not a doctor but I play one in the bedroom."

I'm working on a Bachelor's Degree in English Writing and Political Science. I'll finish it...eventually.

Wait, why is that a BS and not a BA?
My boyfriend got a BS in Communications, while my Biology degree was a BA.

It makes no sense.