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Hello dear friends. I am making this post to express my concern of the rampant spread of a most vile religion in this fair land of ours. It seems, like many cults, that it is fashioned around a corrupt, vacuous false prophet. The facts speak for themselves. No, really:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU

As someone who believes strongly in the American ideal of secularism, I propose that all advocacy of this cult be banned, as it is having a harmful effect on the fragile young minds of our populace. Not only is it centred around a charlatan, but it is turning into a full-blown cult, not all too different from scientology.

Yours,
A concerned citizen

Here we go then...

There's a church in South Carolina that decided to make use of it's outdoor message board to write - Osama, Obama, Brothers?

A church?

This kind of thing is only going to serve Barack Obama, the nastiness that will be shown by the underbelly of America will only drive people to vote for him, if not for shame.

John McCain's biggest problem may well be his own electorate.

I knew this would be something crazy as soon as I clicked on it.

... Says the concerned American citizen posting a video hosted in the UK, on an international forum also hosted in the UK and owned by an Australian!

What's even worse is that it's a really BAD attempt as well.

Please tell me you're someone's puppet having a laugh with us.

Ossama Obama;13741308']Hello dear friends. I am making this post to express my concern of the rampant spread of a most vile religion in this fair land of ours. It seems, like many cults, that it is fashioned around a corrupt, vacuous false prophet. The facts speak for themselves. No, really:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU

As someone who believes strongly in the American ideal of secularism, I propose that all advocacy of this cult be banned, as it is having a harmful effect on the fragile young minds of our populace. Not only is it centred around a charlatan, but it is turning into a full-blown cult, not all too different from scientology.

Yours,
A concerned citizen

The Cult of Reagan has survived. Any opposition to that?

Awesome. The general election has begun. Now for the nutty.

The Cult of Reagan has survived. Any opposition to that?

What does this cult consist of?

1. Run up massive deficit
2. Arm murderous death squads in banana republics
3. Give heavy weapons to religious fanatics
4. ???
5. Profit? (maybe for his friends)

Awesome. The general election has begun. Now for the nutty.

You have no idea how long I have been waiting to see all the racist, xenophobic, insane loons come out and give their speeches.


This is awesome.

Please tell me you're someone's puppet having a laugh with us.

My faith in humanity would be somewhat restored if Ossama Obama's next post was along the lines of "Got you!".

Huh? *leaves thread*

Here, I thought we might need this...


http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9845/trollrepellentlk4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Ossama Obama;13741308']Hello dear friends. I am making this post to express my concern of the rampant spread of a most vile religion in this fair land of ours. It seems, like many cults, that it is fashioned around a corrupt, vacuous false prophet. The facts speak for themselves. No, really:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU

As someone who believes strongly in the American ideal of secularism, I propose that all advocacy of this cult be banned...
If you are not joking, then I will stop taking you seriously at this point.

Awesome. The general election has begun. Now for the nutty.

Eh, so far this is just an almond. It has yet to approach cashew level, let alone walnut.
You have no idea how long I have been waiting to see all the racist, xenophobic, insane loons come out and give their speeches.


This is awesome.

If only for the amusement of seeing you go completely bonkers. :D

Oops. I assumed the video was going to be that Rick Asinine guy . . . seriously, "Rickrolling" jumped the shark sooo 15 minutes ago :rolleyes:

lol I wouldent call them a cult


Just a group of bat-shit crazy vegans

I suppose they dident get vaccineted either, these are the people who let their child get whooping cough, rather than pay 40 bucks

Eh, so far this is just an almond. It has yet to approach cashew level, let alone walnut.


If only for the amusement of seeing you go completely bonkers. :D

Oh yes. The smack down has begun.


I find it awesome that I have a reputation of being a hot head here. Apperantly my personality translates into an internet forum very well;)

Oh yes. The smack down has begun.


I find it awesome that I have a reputation of being a hot head here. Apperantly my personality translates into an internet forum very well;)
A person after my heart!

:fluffle:

My America?:confused:

Well, the song is somewhat...disturbing.

I knew this would be something crazy as soon as I clicked on it.

Well you right about one thing, some of that stuff said on there was crazy shit.

Here is another cult that should be demolished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

Here is another cult that should be demolished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

Bah, yeah:(

Bah, yeah:(

I know, I have become the very thing I mocked.

Lapse For Prez!!!!

http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/locked.gif

Ossama Obama;13741308']Yours,
A concerned citizenYou might not want to use that name. It's commonly associated with racists that try to trick moderates into agreeing with them.

It's My America too?
Sweet, I'll make sure to mention that to the locals if I ever visit.

You might not want to use that name. It's commonly associated with racists that try to trick moderates into agreeing with them.

The term 'concerned citizen' is used by everybody, I would think.

You have no idea how long I have been waiting to see all the racist, xenophobic, insane loons come out and give their speeches.


This is awesome.
No my friend, I am merely concerned about a virulent, sick cult.

To the nitpickers, I am from the US but abroad on business in the UK, as incredible as it may seem to you layabouts.

The term 'concerned citizen' is used by everybody, I would think.Not on a forum. Someone tossing the "concerned something" label around is usually only doing it to create a common ground with people that loathe their opinions.

Let's look at this through the spectacles of rationality and fairness.

When hordes of undead zombies with no apparent understanding of what they are doing charge at the local peaceful population, they scream "BRAAAAAINS!!!"

When hordes of braindead liberals with no apparent understanding of what they are doing charge at the local peaceful population, they scream "CHAAAAANGE!!!"

Coincidence? I think NOT!

Let's look at this through the spectacles of rationality and fairness.

When hordes of undead zombies with no apparent understanding of what they are doing charge at the local peaceful population, they scream "BRAAAAAINS!!!"

When hordes of braindead liberals with no apparent understanding of what they are doing charge at the local peaceful population, they scream "CHAAAAANGE!!!"

Coincidence? I think NOT!Well, no duh. At Conservative rallyes the codeword is "Fliiiiiiip-flop!" and at Libertarian ones its "Paaaaaaaaul!"

Mine is "Raaaaaaaalph!" =D

If you are not joking, then I will stop taking you seriously at this point.
It afflicts the mind of the innocent and is religion enmeshed with politics. So you will agree that I'm right, if you're reasonable. Brainwashing is always wrong.

Not on a forum. Someone tossing the "concerned something" label around is usually only doing it to create a common ground with people that loathe their opinions.

You know, as much as you loathe McCarthy, you sure seem to act alot like him. Just replace "communist" with "racist".:rolleyes:

You know, as much as you loathe McCarthy, you sure seem to act alot like him. Just replace "communist" with "racist".:rolleyes:What, did I cost you your job, or something? Is that why you're upset?

EDIT: Then again, I recall you love McCarthy. It comes as a surprise why you're complaining about it in the first place.

Ossama Obama;13742775']It afflicts the mind of the innocent and is religion enmeshed with politics. So you will agree that I'm right, if you're reasonable. Brainwashing is always wrong.There's a bit more to brainwashing than mere chanting. I have my own misgivings about Obama, but comparing one of his rallys to Scientology or Jesus Camp? Get real.

There's a bit more to brainwashing than mere chanting. I have my own misgivings about Obama, but comparing one of his rallys to Scientology or Jesus Camp? Get real.
I am. He is a false prophet and deserves to be exposed as such.

What does this cult consist of?

1. Run up massive deficit
2. Arm murderous death squads in banana republics
3. Give heavy weapons to religious fanatics
4. ???
5. Profit? (maybe for his friends)
Indeed - it too is a pernicious cult.

Ossama Obama;13742855']Indeed - it too is a pernicious cult.

You do realize you just agreed that Reagan led a cult, right?

You didn't? Ha, ha ha, hahahahahahaha...

Ossama Obama;13742857']I am. He is a false prophet and deserves to be exposed as such.Prophet of what church?

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What does this cult consist of?

1. Run up massive deficit
2. Arm murderous death squads in banana republics
3. Give heavy weapons to religious fanatics
4. Cowboy boots filled with jelly beans
5. Profit? (maybe for his friends)

Fixed.

You do realize you just agreed that Reagan led a cult, right?

You didn't? Ha, ha ha, hahahahahahaha...
I'm not a Reaganite - are you?

Prophet of what church?
The Church of Obama.

It seems the situation is deteriorating rapidly. Were it not for the indolence and depraved stupidity of the American people, this would not be happening. We have let ourselves be taken in by a madman.

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My integrity thus far has been unimpeachable. Simply because you - or any other frenzied fanatic - takes offence to the message of truth I have to offer does not entitle you to label me a troll. Regards.

Ossama Obama;13743724']We have let ourselves be taken in by a madman.

Don't worry, Dubya'll be out of office soon enough.

Don't worry, Dubya'll be out of office soon enough.

Indeed - he's soon to be succeeded by another mad hatter, this time one who comes with a cult following for free.

You do realize you just agreed that Reagan led a cult, right?

You didn't? Ha, ha ha, hahahahahahaha...

Du weißt gar nicht mit wem du spielst.

You know, as much as you loathe McCarthy, you sure seem to act alot like him. Just replace "communist" with "racist".:rolleyes:

Difference being that being a Communist is a perfectly legitimate political position to take, racism is not.

Difference being that being a Communist is a perfectly legitimate political position to take, racism is not.
And who defines which is and which is not a legitimate position to take? The Church of Obama? His high clergy? I say that being a cultist devotee of this man is not a "legitimate position to take" and my judgement to that effect has as much merit as yours.

That reminds me though... who is it again who has a racist preacher? Oh right... St Obama.

Ossama Obama;13743846']And who defines which is and which is not a legitimate position to take? The Church of Obama? His high clergy? I say that being a cultist devotee of this man is not a "legitimate position to take" and my judgement to that effect has as much merit as yours.

That reminds me though... who is it again who has a racist preacher? Oh right... St Obama.
Oh please, give it up, only the most fringe right-wingers like you are continuing to parrot that garbage weeks after he denounced Wright.

Racism is completely irrational, tribal, isolationist, and in practise it's illegal in most areas of society.

Difference being that being a Communist is a perfectly legitimate political position to take, racism is not.
Well that certainly goes in the questionable pile. Something is not simply so because it's your opinion.

And by the way,


Communism is completely irrational, anti-progress, tribal, jealous-at-those-who-have-suceeded, and in practise it's been defeated and not taken seriously in most modern societies, thank God....

Ossama Obama;13743846']And who defines which is and which is not a legitimate position to take? The Church of Obama? His high clergy? I say that being a cultist devotee of this man is not a "legitimate position to take" and my judgement to that effect has as much merit as yours.

Being against Obama, or indeed any political figure, is certainly a legitimate position. However, you do your position no favors by announcing your opposition in such a melodramatic fashion, nor by feigned concern for those with whom you disagree that they have "been taken in" by a "cult". If you wished to impress people here with your oratory, this was not the way to go about it. If, however, you wished to be mocked for your seeming foolishness and immaturity, then you've done splendidly.

Oh please, give it up, only the most fringe right-wingers like you are continuing to parrot that garbage weeks after he denounced Wright.

Racism is completely irrational, tribal, isolationist, and in practise it's illegal in most areas of society.
Right, cupcake. Much like communism. So why don't you give it up.

Being against Obama, or indeed any political figure, is certainly a legitimate position. However, you do your position no favors by announcing your opposition in such a melodramatic fashion, nor by feigned concern for those with whom you disagree that they have "been taken in" by a "cult". If you wished to impress people here with your oratory, this was not the way to go about it. If, however, you wished to be mocked for your seeming foolishness and immaturity, then you've done splendidly.

I've yet to see anyone mock me successfully. Neither do I care o'erly much. My concern is real - not feigned.

Well that certainly goes in the questionable pile. Something is not simply so because it's your opinion.

And by the way,


Communism is completely irrational, anti-progress, tribal, jealous-at-those-who-have-suceeded, and in practise it's been defeated and not taken seriously in most modern societies, thank God....

Well I am not a Communist, but I find that conservatives don't know what communism is anyways, in reality I find most conservatives are raving lunatics and anything from higher taxes to social services is instantly 'COMMUNISM!!!111', so on that basis I will not take you seriously.

Funny thing about American right-wingers, they have never even met a real socialist so when they do it's like the world is about to end, their used to calling regular democratic progressive those names without regard to their actual meaning.

Communism maybe irrational, but it's not illegal, you can legally make communist demonstration or express communistic ideas in public. Express racist ideas in public and your in prison friends. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

Communism maybe irrational, but it's not illegal, you can legally make communist demonstration or express communistic ideas in public. Express racist ideas in public and your in prison friends. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
You must be joking. Are you some sort of legal positivist? Racism is wrong, but communism is a-okay, because the former is illegal and the latter legal? Of course, this isn't even true. I've not yet heard of anyone go to prison for expressing racist opinions; but of course, that'd mark the transition of the US from a theocracy to a madhouse.

Well I am not a Communist, but I find that conservatives don't know what communism is anyways, in reality I find most conservatives are raving lunatics and anything from higher taxes to social services is instantly 'COMMUNISM!!!111', so on that basis I will not take you seriously.
I know what Communism is. Everything I said still applies. Take it seriously or admit to copping out.
Funny thing about American right-wingers, they have never even met a real socialist so when they do it's like the world is about to end, their used to calling regular democratic progressive those names without regard to their actual meaning.
I've met tons. You have no proof. Next.
Communism maybe irrational, but it's not illegal, you can legally make communist demonstration or express communistic ideas in public. Express racist ideas in public and your in prison friends. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
Wrong.

If expressing racist ideas in public is illegal, what is this?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258190,00.html

Comparing a politician to a religious leader of any sort is absurd, unless you're talking about Lyndon LaRouche. They're two very different spheres of human activity, and although it may be possible to combine the two in one leader, it would not be possible to do so without being rather obvious about it. Charisma alone does not a cult leader make. Obama is simply a run-of-the-mill liberal with a better than average personality. Still, McCain is entirely unacceptable, so Obama probably has my vote.

The love interest in Footloose says to her pulpit preaching dad "Its show business, isn't it, Daddy?"


If you want to garner folk to your banner in anything, whether its religion, politics, or a petition to dissolve your homeowners association (the lattermost being the only truly pure and good goal in human affairs), then at some point, its going to be show business.

Whether your party, church, or motorcycle gang is of the finest or foulest purpose, a bit of music and visual craft is going to find its way into your practice.

Although one would hope that any message of merit wouldn't need trappings, or might fear that the science of mass marketing would only serve to pollute something of real value, if you want your idea to get any attention from real numbers, you must willingly set your foot into the orchid clad swamp of dressing it up.

The difference is, some dress up to draw attention to the substance, others to divert attention from the lack of substance.

I don't know which one Obama is, but anybody that wants or needs the many for what they intend to accomplish, they must accept that the many sometimes need showbusiness to keep focused. Sad but occasionally the case...

Ossama Obama;13743812']Indeed - he's soon to be succeeded by another mad hatter, this time one who comes with a cult following for free.

Don't worry, I'm sure people will realize this and vote for Obama instead.

:D

What, did I cost you your job, or something? Is that why you're upset?

EDIT: Then again, I recall you love McCarthy. It comes as a surprise why you're complaining about it in the first place.

He loves Tailgunner Joe and despises Socialists and Communists to the point where he celebrated their torture and murder in Chile. Still comes as a surprise to you? He's trapped in the 60s waiting for Congress to get off its ass and start up the HUAC hearings again. And add 'Muslim' to the category of 'UnAmerican.'

Ossama Obama;13743823']Du weißt gar nicht mit wem du spielst.
Yo TAI.

Eh, so far this is just an almond. It has yet to approach cashew level, let alone walnut.


If only for the amusement of seeing you go completely bonkers. :D

Ahhhh walnut. I like this.

A wise person once said '3 Topics that should never be discussed at the dinner table or in social company are: Religion, Sexual preference and Politics.' and i think this person had their head screwed on right.
Theres no right answer, theres no wrong answer. In fact. There is no answer to any of it. If there was, we wouldnt have any political, race, religion etc issues in the world. Ever.
People have their opinions, whether some are more loopy then others, so be it. If some God Obsessed man/woman wants to preach to others let them do it, who says we have to listen or agree? and Visa Versa.
I think its all a bit of bollocks. We shouldnt be arguing or even having a heated discussion over matters of this sort. Thats what the worlds problem today is anyway. Why continue to argue over things that are unanswerable. Opinions are good. But in the end, thats all they are. And in conclusion, id really like a beer.

*discusses sexual preference at the dinner table*

Are you gonna finish that squash?

That depends. Are we talking about the vegetable Squash or the Ice cold refreshing Lemon Sqaush? In which case, no. Its all yours.

A wise person once said '3 Topics that should never be discussed at the dinner table or in social company are: Religion, Sexual preference and Politics.' and i think this person had their head screwed on right.
Theres no right answer, theres no wrong answer. In fact. There is no answer to any of it. If there was, we wouldnt have any political, race, religion etc issues in the world. Ever.
People have their opinions, whether some are more loopy then others, so be it. If some God Obsessed man/woman wants to preach to others let them do it, who says we have to listen or agree? and Visa Versa.
I think its all a bit of bollocks. We shouldnt be arguing or even having a heated discussion over matters of this sort. Thats what the worlds problem today is anyway. Why continue to argue over things that are unanswerable. Opinions are good. But in the end, thats all they are. And in conclusion, id really like a beer.

*discusses sexual preference at the dinner table*

Are you gonna finish that squash?

Yo TAI.
Hah, you flatter me.:D I'm not the only one who knows German and my writing style isn't nearly that advanced.

Mods are free to run a check if they'd like, but Osamaboma isn't me.

The idea of American secularism doesn't attack or require the banning of cults or religion. Secularism in America refers to the fact that our government will remain secular in matters of religion.

The government has no authority policing religion. It's function is to provide for our common defence and protect us from fraud, force, and inforce contracts.

Anything else it does is a violation of all our individual rights.

Please see the US Constitution of 1787. The US Bill of Rights of 1791.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
http://www.law.emory.edu/index.php?id=3080
http://www.harbornet.com/rights/usbor.txt
"You and me can set them free together
With one hand on each others,
And the other on our weaponry,
Yeah
You and me can set them free together
All I need is your love
And a revolution.
And you, "

---Max Bemis (Say Anything)

Ossama Obama;13743875']Right, cupcake. Much like communism. So why don't you give it up.

I've yet to see anyone mock me successfully. Neither do I care o'erly much. My concern is real - not feigned.

Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh

Prepare to fall.

Ossama Obama;13743823']Du weißt gar nicht mit wem du spielst.

Ich würde mich sorgen, aber Sie spielen gut irgendwie nicht

Comparing a politician to a religious leader of any sort is absurd, unless you're talking about Lyndon LaRouche. They're two very different spheres of human activity, and although it may be possible to combine the two in one leader, it would not be possible to do so without being rather obvious about it. Charisma alone does not a cult leader make. Obama is simply a run-of-the-mill liberal with a better than average personality. Still, McCain is entirely unacceptable, so Obama probably has my vote.
The effects are the same.

Don't worry, I'm sure people will realize this and vote for Obama instead.

:D
Yes, and enthrone the maddest hatter of them all.

Yo TAI.
What is this nonsense you speak?

The idea of American secularism doesn't attack or require the banning of cults or religion. Secularism in America refers to the fact that our government will remain secular in matters of religion.

The government has no authority policing religion. It's function is to provide for our common defence and protect us from fraud, force, and inforce contracts.

Anything else it does is a violation of all our individual rights.

Please see the US Constitution of 1787. The US Bill of Rights of 1791.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
http://www.law.emory.edu/index.php?id=3080
http://www.harbornet.com/rights/usbor.txt
Argumentum ad verecundiam. Individual rights are violated by the brainwashing inflicted by frenzied cultists on young, as of yet unshaped minds. I agree on the rest though.

Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh

Prepare to fall.
No need, I'm not going to.

Don't worry, I'm sure people will realize this and vote for Obama instead.

:D

Uh...Obama (http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/) is the one with the cult.

Ossama Obama;13741308'] snip

idiot

idiot

Your eloquence leaves me spellbound.

Your eloquence leaves me spellbound.

YES! :D