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Now that you've decided who will command your grand fleet, what vessel will your fleet commander use as the flagship?

(Poll Coming)

Galaxy class is a pretty good command ship, except that it's far too vulnerable and slow. I'd take a Defiant (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Defiant_%28NX-74205%29). Quick, heavily armored, heavily armed.

For reference, Galaxy Class (http://uss-seahawk.com/technik/1701-D/overlay.htm). Note the position of the anti-matter storage pods. They're only a deck or two from the outer hull. A shot or two right there and kaboom.

How about one of them new-fangled Death Stars that isn't susceptible to lucky X-Wing shots?

A Borg cube.

Unicron.

Well, the enemy will have ships that are technologically equivalent and they outnumber me, right? So I should pick a type of ship that gives the advantage to the fleet with the most skill. So something small and maneuverable.
If I'm in a star destroyer outnumbered by other star destroyers, it's pretty much over. Even if they share the amazing accuracy of storm troopers.

I can't really decide at the moment.

Imperial Super star destroyer aka vadar's ship.

hmmm... I'm kinda leaning towards the SDF-1

Yamato brings back memories...

but for Justy Ueki Tylor, it has to be the Soyokaze (http://traversa.typepad.com/afghanistan_without_a_clu/images/2007/04/13/soyokaze2.jpg).

Depends who the enemy is really, i'd say Death star is more a home base than a ship.
Ideally i'd go for a ship that can shoot electric shurikens, because that would look amazing.

Imperial Star Destroyer!

There is the Archangel-class Dreadnaught (http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel-class_Dreadnought)

Though I do like the Qwaar-Jet class Heavy Cruiser (http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Qwaar-Jet-class_Heavy_Cruiser).

There is the Archangel-class Dreadnaught (http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel-class_Dreadnought)

Though I do like the Qwaar-Jet class Heavy Cruiser (http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Qwaar-Jet-class_Heavy_Cruiser).

The Archangel Class Dreadnought looks like a giant packman, the Qwaar Jet class Heavy Cruiser looks like a beefed up gun from Halo.

Still i think the pacman one is the better of the two, they're fecking scary i tells ya.

A free planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman). The inevitable result of giving the R&D departments in warring powers virtually unlimited budgets.

Zig

A free planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman). The inevitable result of giving the R&D departments in warring powers virtually unlimited budgets.

holy sweet baby Jesus and walls of text!

I chose the SDF-1/Macross for a few reasons:

1)It's already proven itself in a mass battle involving literally millions of starships on each side.

2)The Main Gun.

3)With a city in its belly, you can always get a good cheese steak, even in the middle of combat.

4)Bristling with all sorts of weapon systems covering all possible firing arcs.

5)Can land.

6)Can carry its own fighter squadrons AND destroids.

7)Has hot bridge officers

What's not to like?

I chose the Yamato.

A) I'm old.

B) Wave Motion Gun.

C) I'm old.

How about one of them new-fangled Death Stars that isn't susceptible to lucky X-Wing shots?

Emperor Palpatine: "What the f*** is an 'Aluminum Falcon'?"

-- Robot Chicken

Emperor Palpatine: "What the f*** is an 'Aluminum Falcon'?"

-- Robot Chicken
Yeah, but when I say "new", I mean old enough to be completed :p

I'm kind of regretting including the Imperial Star Destroyer.

-It was a "bad guy" ship and the only one there

It sucks.

Yeah, I said it. The Imperial Class Star Destroyer sucks. Here's why:

-The overwhelming majority of an ISD's weapon systems are positioned on the dorsal hull or the sides, with relatively few on the ventral hull. That leaves an avenue of attack by fighters and even capital ships. An ISD would only be effective in formation with at least one other so that they could have coverage over all firing arcs.

-The bridge/CIC is easily targeted and exposed, an vulnerable to attack if the bridge deflectors are disabled (as happened to the Executor class Super Star Destroyer)

-The ISD maneuvers like a Buick with 4 cylinders and 3 wheels. Order the ship to come about and you can head down to the galley, grab a sandwich, come back up to CIC, and the turn should be just about complete.

-The ISD has a thousand little weapons, none particularly powerful relative to the size and integrity of the ship itself. The ISD kills by using its fighters and wearing down en enemy, not by delivering a knockout punch.

Now, I do acknowledge that the Star Destroyer has an overwhelming "cool" factor, but in actual theory... meh.

Erm...just...wtf?

I'm kind of regretting including the Imperial Star Destroyer.

-It was a "bad guy" ship and the only one there

It sucks.

Yeah, I said it. The Imperial Class Star Destroyer sucks. Here's why:

-The overwhelming majority of an ISD's weapon systems are positioned on the dorsal hull or the sides, with relatively few on the ventral hull. That leaves an avenue of attack by fighters and even capital ships. An ISD would only be effective in formation with at least one other so that they could have coverage over all firing arcs.

we are leading a fleet it is better to fly ships designed to be team players.

-The bridge/CIC is easily targeted and exposed, an vulnerable to attack if the bridge deflectors are disabled (as happened to the Executor class Super Star Destroyer)
so was the death star. just seems to be dramatic affect, for the movies if these had been good guy ships they likely would have been able to take a beating and some how barely cling to life

-The ISD maneuvers like a Buick with 4 cylinders and 3 wheels. Order the ship to come about and you can head down to the galley, grab a sandwich, come back up to CIC, and the turn should be just about complete.


-The ISD has a thousand little weapons, none particularly powerful relative to the size and integrity of the ship itself. The ISD kills by using its fighters and wearing down en enemy, not by delivering a knockout punch.

Which is the stronger ship today ?
the battleship or the Carrier.
I put my money on the carrier.

Now, I do acknowledge that the Star Destroyer has an overwhelming "cool" factor, but in actual theory... meh.

the theory seems great to me.

I prefer to build my own command ship, I don't care about other ships, but I design my command ship to give them that personal touch

I find the lack of a Romulan Warbird option upsetting.

A space shuttle. Nobody would bother to target it.

Nerdfight!

we are leading a fleet it is better to fly ships designed to be team players.

Maybe, maybe not. Personally if I were going to select a flagship for myself I'd want it to be able to handle itself in the event that the other vessels in formation with it are disabled or destroyed. There's simply no excuse for such a huge blind spot.



so was the death star. just seems to be dramatic affect, for the movies if these had been good guy ships they likely would have been able to take a beating and some how barely cling to life

Doesn't excuse putting the CIC not only in an exposed place but also on a big tower structure that begs to be fired upon.

Is the CIC/bridge visible/external on the Agamamnon? no. It's buried somewhere deep inside the ship. The same is true of the new series Galactica and Pegasus.


Which is the stronger ship today ?
the battleship or the Carrier.
I put my money on the carrier.


A carrier is only effective due to its convoy escorts and fighters. If you take just the ship itself, even a modern super carrier is a sitting duck. The only armaments it has is an antimissile system. A battleship on the other hand...

I'll take that battleship, thanks.


the theory seems great to me.

Not to me ;)

Oh gods, I must be bored to be posting in this thread. (and letting you all see the inner SW otaku!!)

Imperial Class Star Destroyer.

Why? What's not to like and fear?

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/wrlds/strwrs/gr/hdrs/super-star-destroyer-1.jpg

Plus, this vessel looks so slick as to want to lick it from top to bottom.:p

Oh gods, I must be bored to be posting in this thread. (and letting you all see the inner SW otaku!!)

Imperial Class Star Destroyer.

Why? What's not to like and fear?

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/wrlds/strwrs/gr/hdrs/super-star-destroyer-1.jpg

Plus, this vessel looks so slick as to want to lick it from top to bottom.:p

trying... to... resist... full... nerdmode.... can't..... gahhhh.....

That's an Executor class Star Destroyer. And if you're gonna lick it from top to bottom you'd better get started... it's 36km long.

Oh gods, I must be bored to be posting in this thread. (and letting you all see the inner SW otaku!!)

Imperial Class Star Destroyer.

Why? What's not to like and fear?

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/wrlds/strwrs/gr/hdrs/super-star-destroyer-1.jpg

Plus, this vessel looks so slick as to want to lick it from top to bottom.:p

That probably would be a good idea for many reasons.

trying... to... resist... full... nerdmode.... can't..... gahhhh.....

That's an Executor class Star Destroyer. And if you're gonna lick it from top to bottom you'd better get started... it's 36km long.

Then that's the ship I like, the Executor class Star Destroyer. Squee!!

I'll lick it, 36km and more.:p

I've say either the Enterprise E. Or the Prometheus from Stargate SG-1.:D

I'll lick it, 36km and more.:p

Thats what she said.

Thats what she said.

<.<
Nani ka?

I'll lick the Executor Class Star Destroyer, 36km and more.

>.>

Pervy-minded American person.

Serenity. With guns.

No, actually I want the USS Defiant. With Lando Calrissian as fleet commander.

*sits back to watch the fanboys argue*

Serenity. With guns.

No, actually I want the USS Defiant. With Lando Calrissian as fleet commander.

*sits back to watch the fanboys argue*

Actually that's not a bad combo if you don't mind your commander being right in the middle of things.

Actually that's not a bad combo if you don't mind your commander being right in the middle of things.

What's the use of having a commander who isn't ready to lead by example? I'm busy leading from the rear.;)

Of the choices available, the Impirial Star Destroyer. However, my choice would be largely determined by who I was fighting. Against a hard sci-fi (ie, respects laws of science) opponent, an ISD could probably be my entire fleet and still be overkill. Officialy, those Republic assault ships in Attack of the Clones had 200 gigaton turbolasers(the most powerful nuke ever detonated was just over 50 megatons, or one four-thousandths as strong:eek:). An ISD would presumably be stronger still.

That said, against an opponent of Star Wars tech level or greater, I would probably prefer the Executer Class Super Star Destroyer, or Star Dreadnaught. It carries more fighters, more troops, and was actually used as a fleet command ship(so presumably has the necissary facillities). If I wanted insane overkill, I would use an Eclipse Class SSD. For those of you who are not hardcore Star Wars fans, it is slightly shorter than an Executer Class, but has greater volume (I think), armor which allows it to ram other ships, gravity well generators to prevent escape into Hyperspace, and a mini superlaser. It is a one-ship battle fleet which could probably stop a Death Star, as long as its superlaser got the first shot off(it would likely be a one-shot kill for either, so it would come down to whoever fired first, like two gunslingers at 20 paces).:)

CPP Potkustarti

The Flying Dutchman, or Jefferson Starship.

What's the use of having a commander who isn't ready to lead by example? I'm busy leading from the rear.;)

Leading from the front is great, all these choices would do that... but the Defiant is small enough to be part of a vanguard and get out there in between capital ships and fight against smaller vessels like monitors and gunboats. Kinda like when Lando flew the Millenium Falcon into the Death Star...

Leading from the front is great, all these choices would do that... but the Defiant is small enough to be part of a vanguard and get out there in between capital ships and fight against smaller vessels like monitors and gunboats. Kinda like when Lando flew the Millenium Falcon into the Death Star...

Exactly. It's the best possible match for commander and flagship. I chose it because I am a tactical genius. Bow before my geeky fandom.

I've say either the Enterprise E. Or the Prometheus from Stargate SG-1.:D

The Prometheus-class capital ship is the least advanced Earth vessel. The Daedalus-class battle cruisers pwn it. And look cooler.

The Heart of Gold.

The Heart of Gold.

Aye, no one can dispute the beauty of the infinite improbability drive.

Oh my, I am torn.

The Eclipse is such overkill, and so damn cool looking, that it's hard to resist (sorry, Rebel Alliance/New Republic, but the Empire did have cooler ships). If I'm doing Star Wars or more out there tech, this would be the one.

But then there's also the Orion from Stargate if I want less outlandish Sci-Fi battles, and if I want to lead from the front, I'll use the Outlaw Star.

The Heart of Gold.

You win. Although you're pretty much screwed if you face a small unarmed fleet because your success is inversely related to your odds of survival.

Enterprise-E all the way.

Although... my second choice would be a 40k Retribution-class battleship.

An Archon class (http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/BenArk/Archon02.jpg) Carrier

I chose the Yamato.

A) I'm old.

B) Wave Motion Gun.

C) I'm old.

The Yamoto that sounds fimilar, what is it from?

Anyway I saw some wrote in the Galaxy class ship, myself would go for the next model up and chose the sovreign class ship, the NCC-1701E.

DSS Aleksander!

The Yamoto that sounds fimilar, what is it from?

Anyway I saw some wrote in the Galaxy class ship, myself would go for the next model up and chose the sovreign class ship, the NCC-1701E.

IRL Yamato (http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/japan/battleships/yamato/02_yamato.jpg)

Space Battleship Yamato (http://www.scifijapan.com/Miyagawa/Yamato.jpg)

I chose the SDF-1/Macross for a few reasons:

1)It's already proven itself in a mass battle involving literally millions of starships on each side.

2)The Main Gun.

3)With a city in its belly, you can always get a good cheese steak, even in the middle of combat.

4)Bristling with all sorts of weapon systems covering all possible firing arcs.

5)Can land.

6)Can carry its own fighter squadrons AND destroids.

7)Has hot bridge officers

What's not to like?
Two words. Lynn. Minmei.

Hard, hard choice. Hmm, I too said Tylor so it would have to be the Soyokaze (A rusty tin can by any other name), anyone else though and I'd have to go with the USS Enterprise NCC-1701, letters are optional, though I tend to like the A or refit the best. Why? Well, fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise and it sounds like I'm gonna need all the help I can get!

Retribution Battleship (http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs28/f/2008/101/2/e/Divine_Intervention_by_The_First_Magelord.jpg)

I chose the SDF-1/Macross for a few reasons:

1)It's already proven itself in a mass battle involving literally millions of starships on each side.

2)The Main Gun.

3)With a city in its belly, you can always get a good cheese steak, even in the middle of combat.

4)Bristling with all sorts of weapon systems covering all possible firing arcs.

5)Can land.

6)Can carry its own fighter squadrons AND destroids.

7)Has hot bridge officers

What's not to like?

It got blown up.

The Hyperion

IRL Yamato (http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/japan/battleships/yamato/02_yamato.jpg)

Space Battleship Yamato (http://www.scifijapan.com/Miyagawa/Yamato.jpg)

I knew what it was IRL.

But I seem to remember some computer game where the Yamato was a large ship, from memory on our side cause it was a Jap ship, and the 'bad guys' who were the Soviet Union from memory or at least that it where they had got the idea from. Anyway one of the ships which carried a couple of fighter wings was called the Yamato I don't think that was it from the pic you showed me. I wish I could remember the name of the game because I enjoyed playing it.

Ask /k/

Imperial class Star Destroyer. Bigger, meaner and carries more fighters than anything else on this list (including the SDF1).

Ask /k/

Fuck /k/. I hate those retarded /k/unts.

Fuck /k/. I hate those retarded /k/unts.

Lemmie guess, you're from /mu/.

Aye, no one can dispute the beauty of the infinite improbability drive.

Or it's power in the wrong clown's hands. :D

Lemmie guess, you're from /mu/.

How could you tell?

How could you tell?

Because I heard there was a bit of a...disagreement between /k/ and /mu/. I saw the results. Stupid, really. I don't know how it started, I just know there was /mu/ all over my /k/.

Aye, no one can dispute the beauty of the infinite improbability drive.

True, but it's not the mover that the starship Bistromath is. Just don't touch that breadstick....

IRL Yamato (http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/japan/battleships/yamato/02_yamato.jpg)

Space Battleship Yamato (http://www.scifijapan.com/Miyagawa/Yamato.jpg)

That's the stuff. Captain Avatar, FTW. Talk about long odds.

Because I heard there was a bit of a...disagreement between /k/ and /mu/. I saw the results. Stupid, really. I don't know how it started, I just know there was /mu/ all over my /k/.

The two boards hate each other's guts. Didn't you know? There was another feud a couple nights ago. The big one that I got banned for a few days for was caused because all the "/k/ommandos" were tricked by some tripfag into raiding /mu/, which, predictably retaliated.

But yes, I am a "/mu/tant." Would you like to know if I think your favorite band sucks?

The two boards hate each other's guts. Didn't you know? There was another feud a couple nights ago. The big one that I got banned for a few days for was caused because all the "/k/ommandos" were tricked by some tripfag into raiding /mu/, which, predictably retaliated.

But yes, I am a "/mu/tant." Would you like to know if I think your favorite band sucks?

I didn't know. I'm not much of a /k/ommando. More like a /k/omrade. I justy browse and (occasionally) post. I don't involve myself in politics.

Retribution Battleship (http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs28/f/2008/101/2/e/Divine_Intervention_by_The_First_Magelord.jpg)

While thats a cool pic, its not a retribution :)
The retribution has 3 sets of gun decks, the pic has 2 gundecks and a launchbay. Also, the retribution doesnt have a prow lance battery that is seen in the pic.
<nerdgasm>



I'd take HES Divine Right, you can keep your puny tie fighters, my fighter screen is the size of 747's, also i can start firing before your scanners are in range, puny star wars'ers ;)

I didn't know. I'm not much of a /k/ommando. More like a /k/omrade. I justy browse and (occasionally) post. I don't involve myself in politics.

It's a stupid pet rivalry, but yeah, now you know.

It's a stupid pet rivalry, but yeah, now you know.

http://www.hardwarelogic.com/articles/blogs/Website_Reviews_and_You/MoreYouKnow.jpg

I selected the SDF-1, but I would have preferred the SDF-3, or the Red Dwarf (and Cat would be my second-in-command). Also Big 1 from Galaxy Railways could be cool.

Or a modified Akula-class (a Typhoon - hey, if the Yamato can be turned into a spaceship...), and I would take Sean Connery as CINC.

Or it's power in the wrong clown's hands. :D

Given the improbability drive's effects, you would likely become a neat freak door to door Jehovah's Witness, without a sense of humor and surprisingly fragile testicles.

Given the improbability drive's effects, you would likely become a neat freak door to door Jehovah's Witness, without a sense of humor and surprisingly fragile testicles.

There's a big difference between the infinitely improbable and the downright impossible. ;)

While thats a cool pic, its not a retribution :)
The retribution has 3 sets of gun decks, the pic has 2 gundecks and a launchbay. Also, the retribution doesnt have a prow lance battery that is seen in the pic.
<nerdgasm>

it's a modified Retribution Class by the person who made the image (http://the-first-magelord.deviantart.com/art/Divine-Intervention-82493674),all so a lot of BFG gamers do modifying to ships

There's a big difference between the infinitely improbable and the downright impossible. ;)

Impossible, is an unscientific term when dealing with improbability manipulation and multiple realities.

So the question to ask is this.

Are you feeling lucky? :p

A Borg cube.

amen. but i voted for star destroyer cos that wasn't on the list :(

it's a modified Retribution Class by the person who made the image (http://the-first-magelord.deviantart.com/art/Divine-Intervention-82493674),all so a lot of BFG gamers do modifying to ships

Aha!

He should come up with a new class name though, to make it even cooler.

Its what i did for my grand cruisers :)

d.s.v. elthoniel. university research vessel, out of the university of nebethira, nebethira lananara. lananaran registry. converted light merchant. container cargo holds mostly converted to lab space. carries two singleships as lighters/lifeboats, same as standard lananaran light merchant. crewe's compliment of five. carries bunk cabins for six to nineteen grad students, depending on mission. relatively unarmed in any conventional sense.

though equipted with wide range stun and current supression field projectors. fully cloaked/stelthed though. for close study work on sensative or interdicted worlds.

most missions though, are of a xenogeological nature, with occasional investigation of botanicals.

=^^=
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a Therataan Starwarrior those mag pulses can really stuff you up that and they just look sooo cool

http://www.castlethornsoftware.com/wiki/images/1/13/Starwarriorbeauty.jpg

and if i cant have one of those id have an ISD

A Borg cube.Next Generation Borg, or Voyager Borg? :p
You might as well use a space-ship made from papier-mâché in the latter case

I want Ender, and I want him behind the ancible at Command School. *nod*

id have to say i would put my commander in a therataan Starwarrior
does it not look so cool plus it mashes other ships of a similar size

http://www.castlethornsoftware.com/wiki/images/1/13/Starwarriorbeauty.jpg

and if i couldn't have one of those id have to say id want an ISD

Commander in chief: Ender Wiggins
Second in command: Bean
Chief of R&D: Aarn Munro

Command ship: the Sunbeam

For the poll: I voted the SDF-1 for lack of better choice ;)

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrow_(novel)).

White Base!

Imperial class Star Destroyer. Bigger, meaner and carries more fighters than anything else on this list (including the SDF1).

Having a list is lame because there are so many awesome ships in various sci-fi universes. The Archangel-class Dreadnaught pwns fighters for instance - repulsor field, multi-track ion arrays, and several missile launchers.

Imperial class Star Destroyer. Bigger, meaner and carries more fighters than anything else on this list (including the SDF1).

Actually, in terms of size, the ISD is in the midrange. An Earth Alliance Omega Class Destroyer like Agamemnon is actually bigger by a few yards, and the SDF-1 is MUCH larger.

And yes, it may carry more TIEs than the SDF-1 has veritechs, but c'mon... quality over quantity...

The Yamoto that sounds fimilar, what is it from?

It's from the series Star Blazers (in the US) Space Battleship Yamato (in Japan).

e.e.c. arc. havanland tuff comanding and sole crew, aside from his cats.

=^^=
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Anonymous flagship Longcat

I feel that some of the misconceptions about the Star Destroyer need to be further adressed.

First of all, its primary offence is not its fighters. That's what the Turbolasers and Ion Cannons are for. It can be misleading, though, since in most of the movies we're probably only seeing them using the light guns(against star fighters, or when trying to capture rather than kill). Secondly, the Star Destroyer has alot of guns on the bottom, though its true that the biggest guns are on top, I think.

The Star Destroyer's biggest weaknesses are as follows: an exposed bridge, a blind spot, and that big hanger which doubtlessly takes away from structural integrity. The last one can be delt with by replacing the conventional Star Destroyer with the similar, but hangerless Tector Class. The other two would require minor modifications which would pale beside the cost of building and manning an ISD in the first place.

Here are my choices for top ship, however. They very based on the strength of my adversary.

Against Star Trek power or less, I use a Sovereign Class. Its got good firepower speed and manuverabillity, carries some fighters(I think), and is more durable than the Galaxy Class.

Against power up to Star Wars levels, I'd use anything from an ISD up to an Eclipse, depending on how much power was required.

Against one of the Uber factions of Sci-fi, I'd take a Heart of Gold or a TARDIS as the basic moddle for my command ship.

Idk what you all are talking about!!

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (NeW SEASON FTW) :mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::sniper:

my country leader would be: Admiral Adama

Then Second in command would be Kara thrace :fluffle:


:gundge:

I feel that some of the misconceptions about the Star Destroyer need to be further adressed.

First of all, its primary offence is not its fighters. That's what the Turbolasers and Ion Cannons are for. It can be misleading, though, since in most of the movies we're probably only seeing them using the light guns(against star fighters, or when trying to capture rather than kill). Secondly, the Star Destroyer has alot of guns on the bottom, though its true that the biggest guns are on top, I think.

The Star Destroyer's biggest weaknesses are as follows: an exposed bridge, a blind spot, and that big hanger which doubtlessly takes away from structural integrity. The last one can be delt with by replacing the conventional Star Destroyer with the similar, but hangerless Tector Class. The other two would require minor modifications which would pale beside the cost of building and manning an ISD in the first place.

Here are my choices for top ship, however. They very based on the strength of my adversary.

Against Star Trek power or less, I use a Sovereign Class. Its got good firepower speed and manuverabillity, carries some fighters(I think), and is more durable than the Galaxy Class.

Against power up to Star Wars levels, I'd use anything from an ISD up to an Eclipse, depending on how much power was required.

Against one of the Uber factions of Sci-fi, I'd take a Heart of Gold or a TARDIS as the basic moddle for my command ship.

Sovereign Class carries no fighters. The Star Trek universe seems to avoid fighters like the plague.

Definetly the F-303 Odessy. Nothing else. It has the Azgard upgrades, nukes, cruise missiles, and rail guns. Not to mention engines that allow intergalactic travel.

N C C 1 7 0 1 No bloody A B C or D or E

New series Pegasus. Commanded by me.

New series Pegasus. Commanded by me.
Battlestar-class battle cruiser, eh. Not a bad choice - in a universe where mass drivers and missile weapons are the highest level of offensive technology.

I feel that some of the misconceptions about the Star Destroyer need to be further adressed.

First of all, its primary offence is not its fighters. That's what the Turbolasers and Ion Cannons are for. It can be misleading, though, since in most of the movies we're probably only seeing them using the light guns(against star fighters, or when trying to capture rather than kill). Secondly, the Star Destroyer has alot of guns on the bottom, though its true that the biggest guns are on top, I think.

The Star Destroyer's biggest weaknesses are as follows: an exposed bridge, a blind spot, and that big hanger which doubtlessly takes away from structural integrity. The last one can be delt with by replacing the conventional Star Destroyer with the similar, but hangerless Tector Class. The other two would require minor modifications which would pale beside the cost of building and manning an ISD in the first place.

Here are my choices for top ship, however. They very based on the strength of my adversary.

Against Star Trek power or less, I use a Sovereign Class. Its got good firepower speed and manuverabillity, carries some fighters(I think), and is more durable than the Galaxy Class.

Against power up to Star Wars levels, I'd use anything from an ISD up to an Eclipse, depending on how much power was required.

Against one of the Uber factions of Sci-fi, I'd take a Heart of Gold or a TARDIS as the basic moddle for my command ship.

:eek:
Is it possible that in Star Wars-ness and geekiness Neo B has met his match?!
:eek:

Sovereign Class carries no fighters. The Star Trek universe seems to avoid fighters like the plague.

Watch Star Wreck: The Pirkinning and you'll know why.

Actually, Trek has been letting in fighters since Deep Space Nine, but yeh, they're not a common sight. At least one Starfleet ship does carry fighters though: the Akira Class. Its my all-time favorite Trek design in terms of combat abillity, but I'm not sure its big enough for all the responsibillities of a command ship.

Actually, Trek has been letting in fighters since Deep Space Nine, but yeh, they're not a common sight. At least one Starfleet ship does carry fighters though: the Akira Class. Its my all-time favorite Trek design in terms of combat abillity, but I'm not sure its big enough for all the responsibillities of a command ship.

I personally like the Prometheus-class though there isn't much available about it.

Actually, Trek has been letting in fighters since Deep Space Nine, but yeh, they're not a common sight. At least one Starfleet ship does carry fighters though: the Akira Class. Its my all-time favorite Trek design in terms of combat abillity, but I'm not sure its big enough for all the responsibillities of a command ship.
I've never éver seen models from those apperant Star Trek fighter fleets those Akira ships should cary then.
Anyway, for me it would be....heck I don't know, I guess I'm not nerdy enough :p

You posted in this thread, didn't you? You must be at least a little nerdy.:)

USS Enterprise NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D.

I've never éver seen models from those apperant Star Trek fighter fleets those Akira ships should cary then.
Anyway, for me it would be....heck I don't know, I guess I'm not nerdy enough :p
There are very few ships in Star Trek smaller than capital, or at least frigate, class vessels. And they are pretty much all piloted by non-Federation groups. I don't think any group with a major military fields anything smaller than frigate class vessels.

There are very few ships in Star Trek smaller than capital, or at least frigate, class vessels. And they are pretty much all piloted by non-Federation groups. I don't think any group with a major military fields anything smaller than frigate class vessels.

The Klingons operate a corvette sized vessel modeled after the Bird of Prey. Assuming there really are 4 different classes that use the exact same model... -_-

I've never éver seen models from those apperant Star Trek fighter fleets those Akira ships should cary then.
Anyway, for me it would be....heck I don't know, I guess I'm not nerdy enough :p

they called Kaneda Space Superiority Fighter so they say Here (http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/akira.html#9.3%20KANEDA%20SPACE%20SUPERIORITY%20FIGHTER)

Actually, in terms of size, the ISD is in the midrange. An Earth Alliance Omega Class Destroyer like Agamemnon is actually bigger by a few yards, and the SDF-1 is MUCH larger.

And yes, it may carry more TIEs than the SDF-1 has veritechs, but c'mon... quality over quantity...



It's from the series Star Blazers (in the US) Space Battleship Yamato (in Japan).

An EA Destroyer is slightly longer, but the SDF-1 is not. It's clearly stated as being only 800 metres long in the series, while the ISD and the Omega both go over 1Km.

The Klingons operate a corvette sized vessel modeled after the Bird of Prey. Assuming there really are 4 different classes that use the exact same model... -_-
There are far more than 4 -_-
There are a few scout ships, but I don't think they are meant for combat.

they called Kaneda Space Superiority Fighter so they say Here (http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/akira.html#9.3%20KANEDA%20SPACE%20SUPERIORITY%20FIGHTER)
The Kaneda looks like it was modeled after the Delta Flier though that makes sense as that was what Harry Kim was going to work on when he got back to Earth as based in that one episode.

There are far more than 4 -_-
There are a few scout ships, but I don't think they are meant for combat.

They can be seen escorting a Vor'cha in a few episodes of DS9. Aside from the one deck, 6 crewman model, there's the standard BOP frigate, the cruiser size, and the absurdly massive Battleship model.

Cheapass producers.

The Kaneda looks like it was modeled after the Delta Flier though that makes sense as that was what Harry Kim was going to work on when he got back to Earth as based in that one episode.

could be

I think i would have to go with a Medusa-class SuperDreadnaught(Pod) from David Weber's Honor harrington Series. Thermonuclear death at 150 million kilometers!

they called Kaneda Space Superiority Fighter so they say Here (http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/akira.html#9.3%20KANEDA%20SPACE%20SUPERIORITY%20FIGHTER)

actually thats the Valkyrie class fighter from a ps1 game called star trek invasion

Imperial Class Star Destroyer. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

New Galactica, Adama kicks ass!


I'd add Babylon 5 to this list, though.

I will weigh in and cast my vote for a Mon Calamari Cruiser. What can I say, I love those ships.

Of course, specifically, I would choose an MC90 Star Cruiser (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MC90_Star_Cruiser), a purpose-built warship that can take on Star Destroyers directly.

The MC90 effectively has the firepower of an Imperial SD, but does not have the inherent design flaws of an SD such as the rear blind spot and slightly under-gunned under-hull. Mon Cal's are also incredibly modular. All of those "bubbles" on the hull are an assortment of deflector shield generators, ion cannon and turbolaser turrets and other modular facilities that can be swapped out depending on mission profile.

However, there is still the problem of an exposed bridge and a lack of potential to concentrate firepower, due to the necessity to distribute weapons systems around the rounded hull.