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Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

None at all.

day to day people are not so bad I say

at least there is always someone to make a tea :)

Yes, albeit not much.

Not sure, i know there's folks who do good stuff, and i reckon the nasty stuff get's publiscised at least 10 times more than any achievements.
So i feel it's pretty low, however that's mostly based on sources of information from people i don't know, so a little, maybe?

None at all.
Man, you must be pissed - usually you'd write a 200 word essay on the matter, including the word 'intractable' at least twice :p

not really. the other day it was driven home to me on the way to lunch... walking by one person spitting on the pavement, another drooling to themselves and staring off into the middle-distance, and a third seemingly unable to eat a sandwich like a grown-up, i thought these people could be vegetables and nobody would notice.

that's kinda how i feel about probably half the population. the other half are just bastards.

not really. the other day it was driven home on the way to lunch... walking by one person spitting on the pavement, another drooling to themselves and staring off into the middle-distance, and a third seemingly unable to eat a sandwich like a grown-up, i thought these people could be vegetables and nobody would notice.

that's kinda how i feel about probably half the population. the other half are just bastards.

hey, i live in the UK too! i'm pretty sure i'm not a vegetable or a bastard.

not really. the other day it was driven home to me on the way to lunch... walking by one person spitting on the pavement, another drooling to themselves and staring off into the middle-distance, and a third seemingly unable to eat a sandwich like a grown-up, i thought these people could be vegetables and nobody would notice.

that's kinda how i feel about probably half the population. the other half are just bastards.
Whilst I have been described as "spinachesque" in the past, I would hardly call myself a vegetable :p (eh or a bastard)

a third seemingly unable to eat a sandwich like a grown-up

with a knife and fork?

with a knife and fork?
with their mouth
hey, i live in the UK too! i'm pretty sure i'm not a vegetable or a bastard.

yeah.... well...... *runs*

there may be some exceptions ;)

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

Faith and Hope in humanity to do... what?

Keep to their nature?
To do what's best for themselves?
To do what's best for others?
To clean up their act?
To destroy themselves?

with their mouth


yeah.... well...... *runs*

there may be some exceptions ;)

good good, i hope i'm one of them.
I admit some things i see in public are awful. Hey speaking of wierd stuff i saw a preacher guy telling the public the world was going to end (he was wearing a blue bib, and quoting some verses from the bible, corinthians??), that made my day.;)

Man, you must be pissed - usually you'd write a 200 word essay on the matter, including the word 'intractable' at least twice :p

Welcome change?

Welcome change?
Damn right :p

Faith and Hope in humanity to do... what?

Keep to their nature?
To do what's best for themselves?
To do what's best for others?
To clean up their act?
To destroy themselves?
Faith and hope in humanity that they're not a bunch of greedy Bastards who would screw an old lady out of a penny if they thought it would save their own skin from but a second of suffering. Or just did you lose all good faith and hope for humankind to put it simply.

Faith and hope in humanity that they're not a bunch of greedy Bastards who would screw an old lady out of a penny if they thought it would save their own skin from but a second of suffering. Or just did you lose all good faith and hope for humankind to put it simply.
well then, my answer is... No.

Everytime it seems that all is lost, I find the spark of hope

Whether it be by a community drawing together to help three orphans who just lost their parents and now must raise each other while trying to keep their home

or someone helping a lost child find their parents in a crowded mall

or even giving a homeless man a couple of bucks.

Humanity hasn't lost all that is good.

Even when you can't find it when you're out and about, the question you should ask yourself is 'why must I find examples of goodness in others and not do random acts of kindness myself?'

well then, my answer is... No.

Everytime it seems that all is lost, I find the spark of hope

Whether it be by a community drawing together to help three orphans who just lost their parents and now must raise each other while trying to keep their home

or someone helping a lost child find their parents in a crowded mall

or even giving a homeless man a couple of bucks.

Humanity hasn't lost all that is good.

Even when you can't find it when you're out and about, the question you should ask yourself is 'why must I find examples of goodness in others and not do random acts of kindness myself?'

I have a simple way of resolving this, post on NSG and entertain other people.
Oh and the other day i saw a woman buy a big issue from those big issue sellers. and i know my dad always buy's one if he gets the chance, and i've done charity work before, um i guess that comes under faith in humanity?

well then, my answer is... No.

Everytime it seems that all is lost, I find the spark of hope

Whether it be by a community drawing together to help three orphans who just lost their parents and now must raise each other while trying to keep their home

or someone helping a lost child find their parents in a crowded mall

or even giving a homeless man a couple of bucks.

Humanity hasn't lost all that is good.

Even when you can't find it when you're out and about, the question you should ask yourself is 'why must I find examples of goodness in others and not do random acts of kindness myself?'
Because I'm human?

I have a simple way of resolving this, post on NSG and entertain other people.
Oh and the other day i saw a woman buy a big issue from those big issue sellers. and i know my dad always buy's one if he gets the chance, and i've done charity work before, um i guess that comes under faith in humanity?

Never underestimate the power of a smile. :p

think of those your charity work helped, and those inspired by your charity work. :cool:

So, I would say yes.

Because I'm human?
Don't be stupid. You can be human and a decent sort. Acting like an arsehole for the sake of boosting your 13-year-old-on-the-internet ego is not particularly spiff tbqh.

Don't be stupid. You can be human and a decent sort. Acting like an arsehole for the sake of boosting your 13-year-old-on-the-internet ego is not particularly spiff tbqh.

You Brits have no sense of humor, do you?

You Brits have no sense of humor, do you?
We have an excellent sense of humour. On the other hand, we also have a limited tolerance for people who are utter gimps.

We have an excellent sense of humour. On the other hand, we also have a limited tolerance for people who are utter gimps.

I've never met a gimp before, although i have seen them portrayed on various films.
I wonder if gimps have a pension plan?

Humanity as a whole? No. Far too unorganized and generally disagreeable to get anything done.

Individual people? Yes. Can individuals accomplish all that much without the bulk of humanity with them? No.

Rhetorical question? Yes?

We have an excellent sense of humour. On the other hand, we also have a limited tolerance for people who are utter gimps.
*Shrugs* I guess I have a disturbed sense of humor.

Ah HA! You don't have a sense of humor, you have a sense of HUMOUR! Am i the only one annoyed by the different spellings between British English and US English?

Faith is irrational. I never had any faith in humanity.

I've never met a gimp before, although i have seen them portrayed on various films.
I wonder if gimps have a pension plan?
300 whippings a month, plus state pension on top.
*Shrugs* I guess I have a disturbed sense of humor.
Phail...
Ah HA! You don't have a sense of humor, you have a sense of HUMOUR! Am i the only one annoyed by the different spellings between British English and US English?
No, not at all.

I have hope, just not false hope. I trust in humanity's abilities to be human. I know humanity is never going to extinguish war, or hatred, or anything like that; because to do so would make humanity less human. All we have to do is accept who we are and stop trying to reach for impossible goals.

I think that the more our technology advances, the greater the potential for disaster. I look at the convergence of several very serious trends in our world in the next few decades, and I think its going to be a very dark century. If we make it past that, who knows? It depends on so many things that we can't possibly know. I don't see much hope in the world as we know it, but none of us can predict the future, and nothing ensures that humanity is doomed more than the belief that it is so.

Probably the greatest threat to humanity is people who believe that doomsday is inevitable, becaause that belief encourages despair, apathy, and a lack of personal responsibillity to try to improve the world. There are two things that everyone has to realize here. First, that we are probably be all screwed. Second, that we have a moral responsibillity to keep trying anyway.

I think that the more our technology advances, the greater the potential for disaster. I look at the convergence of several very serious trends in our world in the next few decades, and I think its going to be a very dark century. If we make it past that, who knows? It depends on so many things that we can't possibly know. I don't see much hope in the world as we know it, but none of us can predict the future, and nothing ensures that humanity is doomed more than the belief that it is so.

Probably the greatest threat to humanity is people who believe that doomsday is inevitable, becaause that belief encourages despair, apathy, and a lack of personal responsibillity to try to improve the world. There are two things that everyone has to realize here. First, that we are probably be all screwed. Second, that we have a moral responsibillity to keep trying anyway.
I find the idea of doomsday confusing.

I mean if someone says in X number of days we are doomed, and they're proven right, i won't know any better.
If someone says in X number of days we are doomed, and they're proven wrong, i will know they are wrong.
Conclusion, it is pointless to say we are doomed.

with that in mind any doomsayers are wasting their time.

I have the reasoned faith that humans generally believe they're doing good, and if they knew what good was, they would almost alway proceed towards it through action. But I don't think many people are particularly prudent or thoughtful in their day-to-day existence. And they don't read.

So, meh?

I voted for total faith, but I should explain: My position is that the Human potential is unlimited.

In ANY direction.

I voted for total faith, but I should explain: My position is that the Human potential is unlimited.

In ANY direction.
That would be a great slogan for...me!

My potential is unlimited, in ANY direction.

Perhaps generally people with strong moral beliefs have lost all faith in humanity, because humanity can't possibly be expected to live up to their standards.

Yes, I have lost all faith in us. I think that we could be considerably better, but that we won't.

Humanity has a lot of potential to do a great amount of good and a great amount of evil at the same time. As long as people show that there is some sliver of good in them, I will have some amount of faith.

I have faith in much of humanity. Those in power and a substantial part of the American public, however? Very little faith...

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

A lot of times I hate people, but sometimes they really impress me. So yes, I still have some faith.

And I think I've been on NSG quite long enough, n00b.

I have perfect faith in humanity: I expect the absolute worst of them.

I lost my last shred of faith in humanity last Friday, actually. It was quite dear to me, and I was rather loath to let it go.

True story.

I lost my last shred of faith in humanity last Friday, actually. It was quite dear to me, and I was rather loath to let it go.

True story.

Not last thursday? Are you sure it wasn't more than one hundred years ago?

I've never liked this whole notion that if a person has faith in humanity they must be naive, blind, stupid or a combination of the three.

I am perfectly aware that there are horrible things in this world. There's war, murder, rape, death, pain, suffering, ignorance. In spite of that though, there is also beauty, love, compassion, selflessness, tolerance, forgiveness and understanding. Not everyone is good, but not everyone is bad either.

I choose to focus on the good, to believe that any good i do does make a difference to someone, even if it doesn't matter to the world as a whole. I don't know if we'll make this world a better place, but it doesn't stop me from believing that we can.

Not last thursday? Are you sure it wasn't more than one hundred years ago?

Okay, I kind of lied, I admit.

It was Friday through Sunday.

I've never liked this whole notion that if a person has faith in humanity they must be naive, blind, stupid or a combination of the three.

I'm with you there. Bad stuff happens. But lets look at some history. While we occaisionally take steps back, we are slowly marching forward.

Humans being classed as property. Not any more. Slavery is gone, as is the idea that the man own his children and could sell them. While the rich/poor divide has opened up in the last 30 years, it's still much better than the feudal era.

I could give a whole list of history to show us moving forward, but I wont. I'm sure people can give counter examples, like WWII. But WWII was the last in a chain of European wars. What made it so bad was the available weapons. Now the EU, has pretty much stopped the chance of another European War.
In general, we are improving.

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity?

I believe our species will destroy itself...sooner more likely than later.

Planetary colonization is the only hope...this planet will only sustain us for so long, especially given population growth rates.

I don't think the species can repress it's suidcidal tendencies for long enough to accomplish such a goal...so no, I don't really have any hope left.

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

What do you mean have faith in humanity?

Faith in what and why?

Mankind acts as it has always acted, and probably will always act. There are good people, bad people, but most are a mix of good and bad. That is the way it always has, and always will be.

BAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
I have worked in retail and public safety...

Please, faith in humanity! what a load of crap... I am suprised most people are even able to wipe their own arses after some of the shit that I have seen/dealt with.. (not literally)

The problem with humanity? You're all a bunch of self centered jerks with nothing better to do than be competitive with other people. (seriously, think about it. Even the most generous intentions can come out as competitiveness...) Not only that but you are all hypocritical morons who live your life with no ultimate goal.


(yes, Steel Butterfly/Jocabia... I just flamed all of humanity.... wacha gonna do about it?)

Humanity is awesome.

I know it's not a view commonly subscribed to. But I actually do think that.

People do a lot of unbelievably stupid things but somehow we still manage to make progress. So overall I have some faith in humanity.

It'll be interesting for future generations to see if we will finally manage to kill ourselves. We develop more and more destructive weapons and producing such weapons becomes cheaper and cheaper. It's inevitable that we reach a stage where anyone could wipe us all out if they wanted to. An emo kid could build gray goo (nano machines that consume all matter in the solar system to build more nano machines) in their parent's basement or a doctor gone mad at a cheating spouse could design the ultimate virus that wipes out all humans. All it'll take is 1 person who wants to end it all. The only question is if we learn to stop killing eachother before we become too effective at it, I have a little faith and a lot of doubt in humanity's ability to learn that and thus survive.

This is also why I find intentionally hostile aliens unlikely, they probably figure out how to kill themselves before figuring out interstellar travel so warmongers wouldn't survive long enough to invade other solar systems. In worst case the aliens are indifferent to us in the same way we are indifferent to ants. We leave them alone as long as they aren't in the way but if one of their antill cities is located where we want to build something or if they try to bite then they're toast.

I have faith humanity will continue to exist for a while, until it destroys itself or the planet, or both. Although, that is more of a reasoned assumption based on that things tend to continue in existence and in cycles of life unless interrupted by some outside force or its own unfortunate actions.

As for humans acting like humans, what did you expect? Anything other than expecting both good and bad in every place and every person is foolishness.

I'm with you there. Bad stuff happens. But lets look at some history. While we occaisionally take steps back, we are slowly marching forward.

Humans being classed as property. Not any more. Slavery is gone, as is the idea that the man own his children and could sell them. While the rich/poor divide has opened up in the last 30 years, it's still much better than the feudal era.

I could give a whole list of history to show us moving forward, but I wont. I'm sure people can give counter examples, like WWII. But WWII was the last in a chain of European wars. What made it so bad was the available weapons. Now the EU, has pretty much stopped the chance of another European War.
In general, we are improving.

I'm sure some humans are still classed as property, not officially mind but i'm sure some folks act that way.
Slavery still exists to some extent (see the sex trade in Eastern Europe).
The rich/poor divide, it's true it has improved over say 100 years, but in the recent 30 years, i could say it's gone up.
Actually the EU couldn't do much about the war in Kosovo (in 1990s i think), and alot of new dictatorships have got worse, since the fall of the soviet union, they had to sell alot of their military hardware, and guess where it went.
As far as i know the richer countries have got more wealthy, the poorer ones have got poorer. yay capitalism.

BAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
I have worked in retail and public safety...

Please, faith in humanity! what a load of crap... I am suprised most people are even able to wipe their own arses after some of the shit that I have seen/dealt with.. (not literally)

The problem with humanity? You're all a bunch of self centered jerks with nothing better to do than be competitive with other people. (seriously, think about it. Even the most generous intentions can come out as competitiveness...) Not only that but you are all hypocritical morons who live your life with no ultimate goal.


(yes, Steel Butterfly/Jocabia... I just flamed all of humanity.... wacha gonna do about it?)

Hehe yeah I sorta agree, but Trollgard has good point(did I really say that?) there is good and badd ooohh ohh, in everyone!

BAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
I have worked in retail and public safety...

Please, faith in humanity! what a load of crap... I am suprised most people are even able to wipe their own arses after some of the shit that I have seen/dealt with.. (not literally)

The problem with humanity? You're all a bunch of self centered jerks with nothing better to do than be competitive with other people. (seriously, think about it. Even the most generous intentions can come out as competitiveness...) Not only that but you are all hypocritical morons who live your life with no ultimate goal.


(yes, Steel Butterfly/Jocabia... I just flamed all of humanity.... wacha gonna do about it?)

Lapse-kun, you're my hero!!!

And no, I do not retain any faith in humanity. We're scum.

Lapse-kun, you're my hero!!!

And no, I do not retain any faith in humanity. We're scum.

and i happen to be a better looking piece of scum than you, so there! hell i'm better at everything than anyone, that is with the exceptions of sadism and necromancy.

Hey, everythign has to die sometime, what makes Humans different. I am aware that that isn't exactly waht the question was askign so i will continue by saying that if you look at the way Humans have "evolved" over time, they have considered themselves as "getting even better" and "near perfect". However, i a long with other think that by elvovign teh way they did has caused them to degress. They have tried to break away from Nature and by doign that, i feel that the pattern will continue and therefore, i have no faith for Humanity.

Doglas Adams stated in Hitchhikers Guide to teh Galaxy that Humans have always thought they were the smartest, as opposed to 3rd, becuas eof their development of Wars, Cars, New York and so on, and Dolphins, 2nd, thought they were smarter than Humans for exactly the same reasons, and i agree with the Dolphins!
Which is smater?
A):sniper:
B):fluffle:
or
C):rolleyes:

and i happen to be a better looking piece of scum than you, so there! hell i'm better at everything than anyone, that is with the exceptions of sadism and necromancy.

If you're going to discuss good looking pieces of scum, I am way better looking than you, scum. I am the prettiest piece of scum there is.:p

I hate you, MHiJ, look what you made me post.



J/K

If you're going to discuss good looking pieces of scum, I am way better looking than you, scum. I am the prettiest piece of scum there is.:p

I hate you, MHiJ, look what you made me post.



J/K

bhwa, well that may be, but at least i'm not a piece of scum that serves a government that has tomatoes as it's greatest export. :D (okay i admit i'm running low on good jokes at the moment, i'm currently going with annoying people, i know i stoop too low sometimes)

Aww shit 6pm? i hate waking up too late, i blame the dream i had.
I thought i was falling down a hill, landed and woke up in hospital. (while i was falling i was also falling with a hot lady, but i think she got badly damaged from the landing)
That's quite scary.

bhwa, well that may be, but at least i'm not a piece of scum that serves a government that has tomatoes as it's greatest export. :D (okay i admit i'm running low on good jokes at the moment, i'm currently going with annoying people, i know i stoop too low sometimes)

Tomato exports? TOMATO EXPORTS!!!:eek:

Shuddup, you, you potato peeler!!:mad:



Wait, you're a Scot, right?
Wrong nationality insult...:p




I wish the earth would swallow me now.

No faith, especially after seeing this:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk9/rob-roy42/japan.jpg

Tomato exports? TOMATO EXPORTS!!!:eek:

Shuddup, you, you potato peeler!!:mad:
Wait, you're a Scot, right?
Wrong nationality insult...:p

I wish the earth would swallow me now.

:)
Well as it happens potatoes are quite fun to peel, sort of theraputic qualities. i don't know why.

I suppose tomatoes aren't quite the greatest export, i'm pretty sure it's the oranges you make down there. you people are so fruity, yet you have the added bonus of healthier food. not to mention when i hear you folks speak Spanish it sounds like you're firing words off like a machine gun.:D

now if you wanted to insult the Scots you might say something like, "you whisky swilling sheep shaggers!", albeit that's a bit too far it would have the desired effect of stopping all conversation.

:)
Well as it happens potatoes are quite fun to peel, sort of theraputic qualities. i don't know why.

I suppose tomatoes aren't quite the greatest export, i'm pretty sure it's the oranges you make down there. you people are so fruity, yet you have the added bonus of healthier food. not to mention when i hear you folks speak Spanish it sounds like you're firing words off like a machine gun.:D

now if you wanted to insult the Scots you might say something like, "you whisky swilling sheep shaggers!", albeit that's a bit too far it would have the desired effect of stopping all conversation.

We ain't fruity. We just have more class than you, Scots.:cool:

MHiJ, I can't hate you for long. You sound so much like an old Scottish granny. I picture you knitting and serving strong green tea with milk from the sheep you shagged.:D

I jest, I jest.;)

Whilst I have been described as "spinachesque" in the past, I would hardly call myself a vegetable :p (eh or a bastard)

I'm a bastard. Not in the familial sense, just the morally questionable sense.

It's not what it looks like. ... I think. Maybe it is. What the hell are they doing? :confused:

I don't know - and what does it have to do with Doritos?

No faith, especially after seeing this:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk9/rob-roy42/japan.jpg

It's not what it looks like. ... I think. Maybe it is. What the hell are they doing? :confused:

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

It depends on what you mean by "faith." Do I believe that humanity exists? *Looks out window* Yes. Do I believe that mankind can create a society where everyone lives fulfilling lives where intolerance, hate, and poverty are all things of a past? No. Do I believe humanity can improve? With a little gumption and luck, yes.

No faith, especially after seeing this:

<piccy snip>
Really?

That gives me faith in humanity.

We ain't fruity. We just have more class than you, Scots.:cool:
I was going to complain, but I'd only be lying to myself.

We ain't fruity. We just have more class than you, Scots.:cool:

MHiJ, I can't hate you for long. You sound so much like an old Scottish granny. I picture you knitting and serving strong green tea with milk from the sheep you shagged.:D

I jest, I jest.;)
granny?
do i sound that old?
crivens!
i'm also worried you said tea, because i have just finished a mug now. then again i often drink tea, i like the taste (or maybe it's the addiction i have??)

huh, class. I'll have you know Mr Marx himself thought the Marxist revolution would start in Scotland, i'm happy to say it didn't. (oddly enough the Russian President Putin thinks Scotland is planning a revolution with England, don't ask me why, i think he got his meanings mixted up with Devolution and Revolution)

really Scotland is not the best place for a revolution folks, remember that if you want to conquer the world.

It's not what it looks like. ... I think. Maybe it is. What the hell are they doing? :confused:

And why does the one standing up have glasses on?

granny?
do i sound that old?
crivens!
i'm also worried you said tea, because i have just finished a mug now. then again i often drink tea, i like the taste (or maybe it's the addiction i have??)

huh, class. I'll have you know Mr Marx himself thought the Marxist revolution would start in Scotland, i'm happy to say it didn't. (oddly enough the Russian President Putin thinks Scotland is planning a revolution with England, don't ask me why, i think he got his meanings mixted up with Devolution and Revolution)

really Scotland is not the best place for a revolution folks, remember that if you want to conquer the world.

Putin is an arse. And when I meant class, it had nothing to do with that topic comrade Andaras is so fond of discussing.

But I do like the Scots. I like them a lot.

You lot know how to drink and have a party.


I was going to complain, but I'd only be lying to myself.

Gotcha.

really Scotland is not the best place for a revolution folks, remember that if you want to conquer the world.
I don't know about revolution, but there's a long tradition of socialist, communist and anarchist activism in Scotland.

'Red Clydeside' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Clydeside), and all that


But I do like the Scots. I like them a lot.

You lot know how to drink and have a party.
Damn straight.

Putin is an arse. And when I meant class, it had nothing to do with that topic comrade Andaras is so fond of discussing.

But I do like the Scots. I like them a lot.

You lot know how to drink and have a party.

Gotcha.

Easy tiger *wafts cool air at Nanatsu*
I knew what you meant. yes Spanish folks have class, but the Scots have the better alcohol.
speaking of tigers i have tiger beer in my room.
another odd conicidence.

Damn straight.

Hear hear!

And why does the one standing up have glasses on?

Safety first! I'm not sure how this makes them any safer, but I assume they know what they're doing. Whatever that is.

I have plenty. I collect what everyone else on NSG loses and sell it to poo Africans.

I have plenty. I collect what everyone else on NSG loses and sell it to poo Africans.

I beg your pardon?

Safety first! I'm not sure how this makes them any safer, but I assume they know what they're doing. Whatever that is.

Still, it is a bit....odd. I'm sure it's meant to be a reference to some sort of Karma Sutra thing but i can't see it.

Do you have any hope or faith left in humanity? Everywhere you see signs of mans stupidity, many of which are talked about here. I lost my faith in humanity a looooong time ago. What about you NSGers?

Having seen the picture you posted of yourself, I am wondering whether by a 'long time ago', you mean a couple of weeks? :p

The moment everyone fails is the moment everyone gives up.

BAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
I have worked in retail and public safety...

Please, faith in humanity! what a load of crap... I am suprised most people are even able to wipe their own arses after some of the shit that I have seen/dealt with.. (not literally)

The problem with humanity? You're all a bunch of self centered jerks with nothing better to do than be competitive with other people. (seriously, think about it. Even the most generous intentions can come out as competitiveness...) Not only that but you are all hypocritical morons who live your life with no ultimate goal.


(yes, Steel Butterfly/Jocabia... I just flamed all of humanity.... wacha gonna do about it?)

QFT.

Delator, I hope you weren't suggesting that we could counter population growth by sending people into space. There are so many good reasons to support space travel, but that is not one of them. We simply cant launch people that fast.

That said, I agree that our only real long-term hope is in space exploration. Certainly it could help with some of our energy problems, but more importantly, a new frontier would open up opportunities for social, political and technological inovation. Robert Zubrin discusses this idea quite thourougly in his book Entering Space: Creating A Spacefaring Civilization. If you believe our hope lies in space exploration, and you haven't read this book, go out and buy it today. It might even restore some of your faith in humanity.:)

Delator, I hope you weren't suggesting that we could counter population growth by sending people into space. There are so many good reasons to support space travel, but that is not one of them. We simply cant launch people that fast.

Never meant to imply that space travel in and of itself would counter population growth...simply meant to say that the future survival of the species is dependent upon not being stuck on this rock.

i have a lot of faith that someday the'll be a big power outage, and everyone will stop being brainwashed by corporate faschism.

actually it's only corporate media that makes it look like everyone is their robots.

there's so many things going on 'beneath the radar' that the big face is a big hallow and corrupt shell. sure it still has the wherewith to genocide millions, but for how long?

sure i don't know either, but people can figure out that the incentives they create by how they live motivate the policies they suffer from. many of us already have, and those that haven't, well, like i said, sooner or later the means of keeping everyone spun just won't always be there.

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