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He'll have to go. And no, I'm not going to say things like 'He should get the death penalty' or 'they should cut it off and feed it to the dog' or any other such nonsense. He should go to trial. If convicted, he should go to prison. Yes, prison in Texas for a child molester sounds just about right. There's no justice like 'child molester in a Texas prison' justice. :)

But why is advocating that he be sexually assaulted by convicted felons for the rest of his life a morally superior position to advocating that he be executed?

But why is advocating that he be sexually assaulted by convicted felons for the rest of his life a morally superior position to advocating that he be executed?

He's more likely to be shanked or beaten to death before he has a chance to be raped.

Don't forget he's still just an accused child molester not a convicted one

But why is advocating that he be sexually assaulted by convicted felons for the rest of his life a morally superior position to advocating that he be executed?

Because I specified that he should only go if tried and found guilty. Many here begin from a presumption of guilt. This makes me a better person. *nod*

You're probably right, but still it's a scary thought.

Because I specified that he should only go if tried and found guilty. Many here begin from a presumption of guilt. This makes me a better person. *nod*

No, LG. I think we're onto you now. The truth is clear.
You're a rotten person. Rotten, I tell you, rotten!

Anyway, he'd only be executed if tried and found guilty too. I don't think anyone is seriously advocating that the state execute him without trial. At least they shouldn't. If they were they'd be even rotten-er than you! :p

No, LG. I think we're onto you now. The truth is clear.
You're a rotten person. Rotten, I tell you, rotten!

Anyway, he'd only be executed if tried and found guilty too. I don't think anyone is seriously advocating that the state execute him without trial. At least they shouldn't. If they were they'd be even rotten-er than you! :p

It's not my fault. I was left out uncovered too long. :(

Anyway, he'd only be executed if tried and found guilty too. I don't think anyone is seriously advocating that the state execute him without trial. At least they shouldn't. If they were they'd be even rotten-er than you! :p
I'm sure there are plenty of mouth breathers here who think that an accused child molestor should be lynched by angry citizens. Also, that no lawyer should defend him.

A little off topic, but what is the age you think a human can actually consent in sexual activities?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the guy.

A little off topic, but what is the age you think a human can actually consent in sexual activities?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the guy.

I wanted to start having sex at 12...no go. But I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have sex with some nasty 30 - 40 year old. Not even a 20 year old at that age.

Kids around 12 having sex...not such a huge deal, and it's happening all the time. Kids having sex with people significantly older than them run into extreme issues of power imbalances and exploitation.

Kids around 12 having sex...not such a huge deal, and it's happening all the time.

Child rape happens all the time too. Coincidence?

Child rape happens all the time too. Coincidence?
I blame it on the whole 'don't talk about sex to kids until they're like 16'.

Um...no. Kids are fucking at 12, and younger. Admit it, deal with it.

Note to rapists: become "child advocates" and cops. It's good cover.

Note to rapists: become "child advocates" and cops. It's good cover.

Yeah, it's sad how many of these predators manage to get into positions where they have such access to kids. Then again, without priors, how would you possibly know? Ugh.

I blame it on the whole 'don't talk about sex to kids until they're like 16'.

I blame it on people viewing children as sex objects.

Um...no. Kids are fucking at 12, and younger. Admit it, deal with it.

Did I deny this?

Of course they are fucking at 12, and younger. And hey, if they want to have sex with 30 or 40 year old men, that's their preference and we shouldn't be intolerant just because it's against the law, immoral and fucking disgusting.

Yeah, it's sad how many of these predators manage to get into positions where they have such access to kids. Then again, without priors, how would you possibly know? Ugh.
IIRC, one of our lecturers said that many pedophiles will actively seek employment that will bring them closer to children: i.e., teachers, coaches, priests, pediatricians...

I think age of consent should be 18, mainly because it's not heavily enforced for most teenagers. I've nothing wrong with the age of consent being at 16, I think at 16 a person is old enough to decide. It's just that if the age of consent is 16, 14 year olds think they're old enough.

I think anyone engaging in sexual activity younger than 14 is just disgusting. If kids want to have sex at 12, too bad. At 12, children think they're old and mature, but they're not.

I remember in a lecture I had about sexual development or something (part of education degree), the lecturer mentioned that statistically, 4-5 people in the theatre were "Deviants". This was followed with a request for "Hands up..."

I blame it on people viewing children as sex objects.
The viewing of children as sex objects while at the same time wanting to shield children completely from any knowledge about sex. It's twisted. Humans are sexual beings. Denying this about children is fucked up. Then fetishising children, dressing 13 year olds up to look like they're 23...makes the whole mess even more insane.



Did I deny this? Society as a whole you douche :P I wasn't directing that specifically.

Of course they are fucking at 12, and younger. And hey, if they want to have sex with 30 or 40 year old men, that's their preference and we shouldn't be intolerant just because it's against the law, immoral and fucking disgusting.Na, as I said, my issue with kids fucking adults is the power imbalance and extreme likliehood of exploitation. Kids messing around together is nowhere near the same thing. Stupid kids who know nothing about sex, or who act violently towards one another, bad. You see...it's not that hard to figure out.

I think anyone engaging in sexual activity younger than 14 is just disgusting. If kids want to have sex at 12, too bad. At 12, children think they're old and mature, but they're not. So kids masturbating? Sick, wrong, disgusting? Not mature enough for that? How about kids rubbing up against each other? Sick, wrong, disgusting, not mature enough for that? How about kids kissing? Kids getting naked in front of one another out of curiosity?

At what point is it something you should totally forbid and work tirelessly to prevent from ever happening?

So kids masturbating? Sick, wrong, disgusting? Not mature enough for that? How about kids rubbing up against each other? Sick, wrong, disgusting, not mature enough for that? How about kids kissing? Kids getting naked in front of one another out of curiosity?

At what point is it something you should totally forbid and work tirelessly to prevent from ever happening?
At the point where 14 is a super duper magic number where Teh Sexy Time becomes okay.

At the point where 14 is a super duper magic number where Teh Sexy Time becomes okay.

While I am more than fine with legal, arbitrary limits...such as 14 as the age of consent with someone that is at a limit, two years older, with said two year limit extending until one is 18....I do think that human sexuality should be deal with on a more individual basis. Kids are sexual beings, just like any and all humans. That doesn't mean we should open the floodgates and let adults start diddling them...but it does mean we should stop hiding them from sex to the extent we seem to want to, because it means they are getting their information from dumbasses their own age....or from predators.

12?
I didn't know what masturbation was until late 14, am I an exception?

I remember reading about some primitive tribe who didn't interfere with their children's sexuality and all turned out ok in the end. But I can't remember all the useful details:P

12?
I didn't know what masturbation was until late 14, am I an exception? I expect so, yes.

I remember reading about some primitive tribe who didn't interfere with their children's sexuality and all turned out ok in the end. But I can't remember all the useful details:PWatch who you're calling primitive. Among my own people, especially during crowded winter conditions, children grew up around sex, it wasn't particularly hidden from them.

So kids masturbating? Sick, wrong, disgusting? Not mature enough for that? How about kids rubbing up against each other? Sick, wrong, disgusting, not mature enough for that? How about kids kissing? Kids getting naked in front of one another out of curiosity?

At what point is it something you should totally forbid and work tirelessly to prevent from ever happening?

When did I mention any of those things?

Kids will masturbate, there's no harm in that. They will start this of their own accord; there's no pressure from another person to either start or begin.

When two people begin having a sexual relationship, it becomes more complex. People will develop at different rates, generally guys will become more into than girls, and this will lead to pressure and so forth. Girls can pressure guys too, but it's generally the other way around.

I'm not going to set a universal age limit on anything, because it cannot be done. However, I say 14 is an acceptable age to begin sexual relationships with another person. It comes down to the individual person, doesn't it?

I still think intercourse at any younger than 15/16 is wrong.

When did I mention any of those things? *sigh* Are you going to be one of the intentionally dense posters? That's disappointing.

I'm asking you where the line gets drawn.

Kids will masturbate, there's no harm in that. They will start this of their own accord; there's no pressure from another person to either start or begin.

When two people begin having a sexual relationship, it becomes more complex. People will develop at different rates, generally guys will become more into than girls, and this will lead to pressure and so forth. Girls can pressure guys too, but it's generally the other way around. Oh, I wouldn't be so certain about that last bit.

I'm not going to set a universal age limit on anything, because it cannot be done. However, I say 14 is an acceptable age to begin sexual relationships with another person. It comes down to the individual person, doesn't it?

I still think intercourse at any younger than 15/16 is wrong.

Um....you just said 14 is okay, and then you said it's wrong.

And now you've drawn the line at 'someone else is involved'. So if you have kids removing their clothing and touching one another, is this a sexual relationship, or is this just play? Is it 'wrong', or is it just curiosity?

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

Quintuple post!

I expect so, yes.
Watch who you're calling primitive. Among my own people, especially during crowded winter conditions, children grew up around sex, it wasn't particularly hidden from them.

:o
Who exactly are your people?
Cauz I'm talking about really primitive people (http://alfredo.octavio.net/files/aoctavio_NukakMaku.jpg).

Mmm, Must admit I liked this thread to start with.
Then I put my specs on and saw it said Children, not Chicken.
No matter, chop it up I say.

It was funny the first 3 times you said it:P

:o
Who exactly are your people?
Cauz I'm talking about really primitive people (http://alfredo.octavio.net/files/aoctavio_NukakMaku.jpg).


My people (http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51B74868-1560-95DA-43B836597E34BB10.jpg).

And like I said, careful with how you throw around the label 'primitive' before this thread gets derailed into a discussion of exactly how you're making that value judgement and I start chewing you to bits.

My people (http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51B74868-1560-95DA-43B836597E34BB10.jpg).

And like I said, careful with how you throw around the label 'primitive' before this thread gets derailed into a discussion of exactly how you're making that value judgement and I start chewing you to bits.

She may literally chew on you, beware.

Removing clothes and touching each other is sexual, and wrong for under 14s.

You are asking "where do you draw the line". If you mean in terms of age, 14, if you mean in terms of activity, sexual arousal.

My people (http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51B74868-1560-95DA-43B836597E34BB10.jpg).

And like I said, careful with how you throw around the label 'primitive' before this thread gets derailed into a discussion of exactly how you're making that value judgement and I start chewing you to bits.

Native americans?
First of all you think that primitive is a pejorative term?

Removing clothes and touching each other is sexual, and wrong for under 14s.

You are asking "where do you draw the line". If you mean in terms of age, 14, if you mean in terms of activity, sexual arousal.

Uh...you said masturbation was fine.

Oh wait, do you mean you just can't masturbate with anyone around? THAT is wrong? BAD BABIES TOUCHING THEMSELVES AROUND OTHER PEOPLE! BAD!

Native americans?
First of all you think that primitive is a pejorative term?

It's a comparative term, first and foremost, with strong connotations of inferiority and undevelopment.

Please explain to me how it is anything BUT a perjorative term.

TNa, as I said, my issue with kids fucking adults is the power imbalance and extreme likliehood of exploitation. Kids messing around together is nowhere near the same thing.

But don't you see how the latter can lead to the former?

Male 12 year olds have about the same mentality as demented 30 year old child touchers, so it's almost like a 12 year old girl is practicing for her upgrade by going with the former.

But don't you see how the latter can lead to the former?

Male 12 year olds have about the same mentality as demented 30 year old child touchers, so it's almost like a 12 year old girl is practicing for her upgrade by going with the former.

I was engaging in fingering and skin-on-skin contact with kids my same age at 12. None of my 'partners' went on to rape children.

What's your solution to stop this pernicious activity? Segregate the sexes? I was fucking girls at 15, that might not work.

Oh, oh I know! Don't tell kids anything about sex, make them think it's dirty. That's worked REALLY well for us all so far.

I was engaging in fingering and skin-on-skin contact with kids my same age at 12. None of my 'partners' went on to rape children.

Oh well you know, I've been drunk driving for years. Never had an accident.

What's your solution to stop this pernicious activity?

Since when am I a "solution" man? I don't think there's a solution. I think humanity isn't self-sustaining, and that that's a good thing.

Oh, oh I know! Don't tell kids anything about sex, make them think it's dirty. That's worked REALLY well for us all so far.

Nah I know. Let's incourage underage sex. The sooner 12 year old girls get used to being treated as sex objects, the sooner they'll be ready to become productive members of society. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed eh?

12?
I didn't know what masturbation was until late 14, am I an exception?

I remember reading about some primitive tribe who didn't interfere with their children's sexuality and all turned out ok in the end. But I can't remember all the useful details:P
Yeah, i think your the exception. I started at eleven :D.

http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=8386407

He'll have to go. And no, I'm not going to say things like 'He should get the death penalty' or 'they should cut it off and feed it to the dog' or any other such nonsense. He should go to trial. If convicted, he should go to prison. Yes, prison in Texas for a child molester sounds just about right. There's no justice like 'child molester in a Texas prison' justice. :)

After all that hedging, this comes down to "I won't advocate for cruel and unusual punishment ... but I'll cheer on convicted felons doing just that."

This is pretty much the last straw for me. I'm taking a long break from NSG, starting now.

She may literally chew on you, beware.

How primitive.

Anyway, why does Jesus get to LOVE all the little children?

http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=8386407

He'll have to go. And no, I'm not going to say things like 'He should get the death penalty' or 'they should cut it off and feed it to the dog' or any other such nonsense. He should go to trial. If convicted, he should go to prison. Yes, prison in Texas for a child molester sounds just about right. There's no justice like 'child molester in a Texas prison' justice. :)

Your post title reminded me of Demitri martin's standup

I heard this lady say “I love kids.” That’s nice, a little weird though. It’s like saying “I like people, for a little while.” “How old are you? 14? Fuck off!” You can say “I love kids” as a general statement, that’s fine. It’s when you get specific that you get in to trouble. “I love twelve-year-olds.”

It's a comparative term, first and foremost, with strong connotations of inferiority and undevelopment.

Please explain to me how it is anything BUT a perjorative term.

First of all I was into Rousseau's way of thinking for some time. Leaving that aside:

Comparisons are inevitable. However, I don't find anything inferior about communities that live in a simple, more natural way. Consequently I don't find anything superior in what we call modern civilization. As a matter of fact I often quote Gandhi's "It would be a good idea" when asked about western civilization. And I think that much of mankind's distress is an outcome of this so called civilization.

Considering it, from the point of view that primitive describes a way of living that has not deviated from the ancestral and natural way of living, I think it's a pretty accurate term. Is "non-literate" a more politically correct term?

Reconciliation?:D (http://www.american-indian-art.com/pp100-104.JPG)

Regarding the use of the word primitive... pre-colonial Native Americans fall into the category of primitive, yes. As do pre-colonial aborigines, pacific islanders, etc. All it means is their technology isn't as advanced as Western cultures.
Saying these cultures are BARBARIC on the other hand, is offensive. Primitive does not mean barbaric; it's a pretty objective use of the word. No one here is saying natives are barbaric, just technologically inferior. It's not offensive.

As for 12 year old engaging in sexual activity and sexual relationships, I still think it's wrong. Don't get offended when I say what you did was wrong in my opinion, and don't get so huffy.

My "solution" is education. Children, when taught about sex, don't run off and have sex. The more someone knows about a topic, the more well equipped they are to deal with it. If a 14 year old has a good knowledge of sex, pregnancy, contraception, STDs, then they're going to be less likely to find out about things from incorrect sources. They're also going to be more prepared to understand when they're ready for sex.

It's also a good idea to education young children about sex, mainly as prevention against child molesters. Many young children don't have a concrete idea of what's inappropriate behavior, and so if someone who is trusted does molest a child, the child will be able to inform a parent, teacher, etc.

Children aren't stupid; just because they know about sex at a young age doesn't mean they're going to go off and engage in it.

It is true however that colonialists used that as a pretext to slay natives, conquer their land and religiously convert them, to "civilize" them.

Makes you wonder who's the uncivilized:rolleyes:

But they did have guns, and that's got to be worth something, aye?

But they did have guns, and that's got to be worth something, aye?

It's usually everything.

I think that there should be the death penalty for child molestation, on the first conviction.

and the form of death penalty should be death by being burned alive. Burned just enough to torch 90% of the felon with 3rd degree burns, and then put the fire out and leave him until he expires.

You're talking about the natives?
I seem to be missing your point here:o

I'm being the devil's advocate here... I strongly believe pedophilia is a sickening paraphilia, however...

Not many years ago sodomy was punishable by death. Before that, premarital sex and adultery were social taboos are could likewise be punished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-pedophile_activism

Could it be that in a few short generations, child-adult relations are a legal and accepted practice?

If the FLDS has its way, yes.

I'm being the devil's advocate here... I strongly believe pedophilia is a sickening paraphilia, however...

Not many years ago sodomy was punishable by death. Before that, premarital sex and adultery were social taboos are could likewise be punished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-pedophile_activism

Could it be that in a few short generations, child-adult relations are a legal and accepted practice?

As a social worker for High risk youth, I have to say. Do not bring a client to your house EVER. What if this man is totaly innocent and the girls are disturbed enough to start something just for fun? Oh, well. this guy is finished regardless of the truth.
However, he did invite them to his home. He did have recordings of a sexual nature reflecting the accusation. so, one has to wonder.
This is why those of us that are legitimate, keep an emotional and somewhat physical distance from those we work with. Do not let even a hint of unprofeshonial behavior rise.

As a social worker for High risk youth, I have to say. Do not bring a client to your house EVER. What if this man is totaly innocent and the girls are disturbed enough to start something just for fun? Oh, well. this guy is finished regardless of the truth.
However, he did invite them to his home. He did have recordings of a sexual nature reflecting the accusation. so, one has to wonder.
This is why those of us that are legitimate, keep an emotional and somewhat physical distance from those we work with. Do not let even a hint of unprofeshonial behavior rise.

In other words, he's done.

How did you quote me before I posted?

How did you quote me before I posted?

I am a time lord...

How did you quote me before I posted?

It's called a time-warp, it's a glitch in the server. AFAIK, no poster has any control over it.

It's called a time-warp, it's a glitch in the server. AFAIK, no poster has any control over it.

It's actually a glitch in the Matrix. It usually means the agents have changed something in your vicinity...

I like the Time Lord explanation best.

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He'll have to go. And no, I'm not going to say things like 'He should get the death penalty' or 'they should cut it off and feed it to the dog' or any other such nonsense. He should go to trial. If convicted, he should go to prison. Yes, prison in Texas for a child molester sounds just about right. There's no justice like 'child molester in a Texas prison' justice. :)

BOW-CHICKA-BOW-WOW

It's actually a glitch in the Matrix. It usually means the agents have changed something in your vicinity...

Whoa!

Anyway primitive means a nonindustrial, often tribal society, especially a society characterized by a low level of economic complexity. Nothing more, nothing less.

After all that hedging, this comes down to "I won't advocate for cruel and unusual punishment ... but I'll cheer on convicted felons doing just that."

This is pretty much the last straw for me. I'm taking a long break from NSG, starting now.

Pity. Sometimes I try to slip multiple meanings into my post. Sometimes I'm a little too subtle. :(

My people (http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51B74868-1560-95DA-43B836597E34BB10.jpg).


Oh, your people come in black&white? Funny, I've always thought you were more of the slightly brownish kind.. and now, not even sepia. How disappointing.

Oh, your people come in black&white? Funny, I've always thought you were more of the slightly brownish kind.. and now, not even sepia. How disappointing.

And faded. Probably from overexposure to monochromatic sunlight. *nod*

Oh well you know, I've been drunk driving for years. Never had an accident.
Shut up. We all know you're too short to reach the pedals.


Since when am I a "solution" man? I don't think there's a solution. I think humanity isn't self-sustaining, and that that's a good thing. So you're just a problems man? Argh. No wonder you haven't made it up here yet.



Nah I know. Let's incourage underage sex. The sooner 12 year old girls get used to being treated as sex objects, the sooner they'll be ready to become productive members of society. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed eh?I have a better idea. Let's ACTUALLY educate children about sex, early on, hmmmm? Rather than push educational campaigns which intend to coddle and 'protect' children from any knowledge. Let's stop giving them such mixed messages...NO SEX/SEX BAD...oh here, dress in these provocative clothes and try to attract men with these delicious tips for teens!

Reconciliation?:D (http://www.american-indian-art.com/pp100-104.JPG)

I would absolutely continue to chew on you, except I've had my morning coffee and I'm entirely too mellow to do so.

As for 12 year old engaging in sexual activity and sexual relationships, I still think it's wrong. Don't get offended when I say what you did was wrong in my opinion, and don't get so huffy.

My "solution" is education. Children, when taught about sex, don't run off and have sex. The more someone knows about a topic, the more well equipped they are to deal with it. If a 14 year old has a good knowledge of sex, pregnancy, contraception, STDs, then they're going to be less likely to find out about things from incorrect sources. They're also going to be more prepared to understand when they're ready for sex.

It's also a good idea to education young children about sex, mainly as prevention against child molesters. Many young children don't have a concrete idea of what's inappropriate behavior, and so if someone who is trusted does molest a child, the child will be able to inform a parent, teacher, etc.

Children aren't stupid; just because they know about sex at a young age doesn't mean they're going to go off and engage in it.
Agreed, all except with the 'it was wrong' thing, although I acknowledge that you're saying that's just your opinion.

Oh, your people come in black&white? Funny, I've always thought you were more of the slightly brownish kind.. and now, not even sepia. How disappointing.

It wasn't until the disgusting colonialists encroached upon our territories that colour started flooding the landscape, and messing everything up. Sepia was a disturbing period that was quickly beaten back by the glorious monochromatic tones of my people, but eventually, we woke up one day to find that some capering fool had spilled buckets of pigment all over us. Life has never been the same.

IIRC, one of our lecturers said that many pedophiles will actively seek employment that will bring them closer to children: i.e., teachers, coaches, priests, pediatricians...

:p

It wasn't until the disgusting colonialists encroached upon our territories that colour started flooding the landscape, and messing everything up. Sepia was a disturbing period that was quickly beaten back by the glorious monochromatic tones of my people, but eventually, we woke up one day to find that some capering fool had spilled buckets of pigment all over us. Life has never been the same.
I absolutely do feel for you. People always look so much better in monochromes, I really wonder why the fuck multicolor photography was invented / proliferated to the current extent. I only wish we all returned to the good old monochromatic days and left that fancy modern no-good stuff to them biologists and whoever else considers having it a professional need.

I absolutely do feel for you. People always look so much better in monochromes, I really wonder why the fuck multicolor photography was invented / proliferated to the current extent. I only wish we all returned to the good old monochromatic days and left that fancy modern no-good stuff to them biologists and whoever else considers having it a professional need.

Well, I don't feel absolutely prepared to judge the value of monochromatic images versus multicolour representations in terms of the 'betterness' of said representation of the subject until I've gotten a chance to review them side by side. Therefore, I suggest you TG me nudes in black and white, as well as in colour so I can give an informed opinion on the matter. Thank you in advance.

Well, I don't feel absolutely prepared to judge the value of monochromatic images versus multicolour representations in terms of the 'betterness' of said representation of the subject until I've gotten a chance to review them side by side. Therefore, I suggest you TG me nudes in black and white, as well as in colour so I can give an informed opinion on the matter. Thank you in advance.

The only problem being that I lack the technical equipment. The only digicam I know to have access to belongs to my father, and I believe he's not really up to a nude photo shoot. Pity, I know.

The only problem being that I lack the technical equipment. The only digicam I know to have access to belongs to my father, and I believe he's not really up to a nude photo shoot. Pity, I know.

If that's the only problem, I suggest procuring your father's camera and petitioning for the services of your man. *nods*

Shut up. We all know you're too short to reach the pedals.

That's never stopped me any more than it's stopped 89 year old grandmas in their steel freeway tanks.

So you're just a problems man? Argh. No wonder you haven't made it up here yet.

Well you live in Canada. I'd feel like I was going to a Marxist book-burning gestapo meeting. :p

I have a better idea. Let's ACTUALLY educate children about sex, early on, hmmmm? Rather than push educational campaigns which intend to coddle and 'protect' children from any knowledge. Let's stop giving them such mixed messages...NO SEX/SEX BAD...oh here, dress in these provocative clothes and try to attract men with these delicious tips for teens!

That would be good. And while we're at it can we do away with child beauty contests and elementary school cheerleaders? Both of which seem to be little more than a way for PTA pedophiles to get their rocks off in a socially-acceptable venue.

That would be good. And while we're at it can we do away with child beauty contests and elementary school cheerleaders? Both of which seem to be little more than a way for PTA pedophiles to get their rocks off in a socially-acceptable venue.

Agreed. Child beauty contests in particular freak me the fuck out. There is nothing more wrong than a four year old with pancake make-up prancing around like a cheap hooker.

Quintuple post!

Sorry, it never showed up as being posted. Is it a record?:p

Agreed. Child beauty contests in particular freak me the fuck out. There is nothing more wrong than a four year old with pancake make-up prancing around like a cheap hooker.

I like it when we can agree with each other on a socio-sexual level. It means theoretically we could have sex and I wouldn't vomit on you.

Unless you wanted.

It wasn't until the disgusting colonialists encroached upon our territories that colour started flooding the landscape, and messing everything up. Sepia was a disturbing period that was quickly beaten back by the glorious monochromatic tones of my people, but eventually, we woke up one day to find that some capering fool had spilled buckets of pigment all over us. Life has never been the same.

Colour is good. I don't have a problem with it, do you?
I met a guy once that didn't like green. When I questioned him on it he said it reminded him of a nations flag.
Sad to have so much hate in ones life about a colour.

If that's the only problem, I suggest procuring your father's camera and petitioning for the services of your man. *nods*

If I procure my father's camera to anywhere he can't/won't supervise, he'll procure my neck and put it in a tight sling faster than I can say "You know how they outlawed lynching quite some time ago, yes?"

That, and my man is a whole country and eight novice vows aways from my nudity, so that's that, too.

I like it when we can agree with each other on a socio-sexual level. It means theoretically we could have sex and I wouldn't vomit on you.

Unless you wanted.

Absolutely not, but thanks for asking!

We agree most of the time, I just like not agreeing with you because then you get all frothy and fun.

If I procure my father's camera to anywhere he can't/won't supervise, he'll procure my neck and put it in a tight sling faster than I can say "You know how they outlawed lynching quite some time ago, yes?"

That, and my man is a whole country and eight novice vows aways from my nudity, so that's that, too.

THAT I did not know. Since I'm all whole country away, and no vows away from your nudity, I suddenly feel on less uneven ground when it comes to seducing you.

THAT I did not know. Since I'm all whole country away, and no vows away from your nudity, I suddenly feel on less uneven ground when it comes to seducing you.

By all means, try. He's been gone one and a half months now, and I'm starting to get desperate. And, umm, I'm perfectly legal and I don't think you're (much?) older than him, so all's good (yes, so I'm trying to pretend to be on topic, sue me). Also, I think I've just re-added you on msn, but I'm not sure. Anything happening on your side?

Absolutely not, but thanks for asking!

We agree most of the time, I just like not agreeing with you because then you get all frothy and fun.

I like it too for the same reason.

Mumble mumble there's other ways to make me frothy.