He plays video games all the time...do you want to date him?
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
Aperture Science
27-05-2008, 22:02
Hey, you can socialise and play video games at the same time. Multitasking is key!
Hydesland
27-05-2008, 22:03
I got the idea that a majority of the wimmin on NSG are gamers themselves, maybe I'm completely wrong on that one.
Just out of interest, how important is a firm ass? :p
Hey, you can socialise and play video games at the same time. Multitasking is key!
If you're just talking about socialising via the game, no dice :P
Time management is the key. I played a tonne of video games before my girlfriend and I started dating.
Now not so much, I play whenever I have free time. Like when she is out, or reading or something along the lines. We do on the odd occasion play together. However, I a frim believe that playing video games should not interfer with the relationship.
I got the idea that a majority of the wimmin on NSG are gamers themselves, maybe I'm completely wrong on that one.
Just out of interest, how important is a firm ass? :p
I'm an ass woman:)
I'm an ass woman:)
He... I got Buns of Steel.
too bad it's weight, and not consistancy.
:p
Not a wimmin, but I've seen alot of girls sit glued infront of a monitor for hours on end.
what difference does it make if it's a computer monitor or a TV screen?
Glitziness
27-05-2008, 22:15
Of course it's all balance. I don't really see it as different to any hobby - if it gets too obsessive, that's bad, or if it prevents spending time together, that's bad. Otherwise, everyone has their own ways of relaxing *shrugs*
My bf likes playing video games, and there might be phases where he plays quite a lot cos a new favourite game has come out, but when we're together, I get his attention. If we're spending the weekend together, he can play a bit when I'm getting ready in the morning and having a shower, or spend half an hour playing while I read a book, but he's more than happy to not.
And there's always playing video games together and having fun! :D
Not a wimmin, but I've seen alot of girls sit glued infront of a monitor for hours on end.
what difference does it make if it's a computer monitor or a TV screen?
Cuz we're SHOPPING ONLINE of course.
I wouldn't date a chick who gamed excessively either. Or watched tv for hours upon hours.
Jello Biafra
27-05-2008, 22:16
Why not play video games with him?
Why not play video games with him?
Not into it, never could get into it. Bores me to tears. TO TEARS!!!!
Maybe younger chicks are into gaming more? But guys who go ga-ga for the newest Grand Theft Auto...the ones who take time off work to play it and are pasty in the dead of summer from lack of outdoor exposure...I just can't find them sexy. I'm a bigoted bitch, I know, I admit it. Young guys get no love. Give me a 30 - 45 year old who'd rather cut wood and drill me thanks.
Dundee-Fienn
27-05-2008, 22:18
Of course it's all balance. I don't really see it as different to any hobby - if it gets too obsessive, that's bad, or if it prevents spending time together, that's bad. Otherwise, everyone has their own ways of relaxing *shrugs*
I think my girlfriend would agree with this. We've had problems on and off due to my spending 2.5 days a week away from her purely for a sport. I really don't blame her
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 22:20
Cuz we're SHOPPING ONLINE of course.
I wouldn't date a chick who gamed excessively either. Or watched tv for hours upon hours.
And yet millions of people watch TV upon hours and hours and criticize gamers for playing games a few hours a day :( *Iz sad. But haz cookie. Not sad*
Besides, why don't you find us gamers attractive? We all put on our nerd suits when other people are around, but then (Like JuNii) Unzip and become buff supermen :p.
Jello Biafra
27-05-2008, 22:22
Not into it, never could get into it. Bores me to tears. TO TEARS!!!!
Maybe younger chicks are into gaming more? But guys who go ga-ga for the newest Grand Theft Auto...the ones who take time off work to play it and are pasty in the dead of summer from lack of outdoor exposure...I just can't find them sexy. I'm a bigoted bitch, I know, I admit it. Young guys get no love. Give me a 30 - 45 year old who'd rather cut wood and drill me thanks.I figured it was just 'cause you found it boring and not because of an irrational hatred of video games. That's fair enough, if you have nothing or very little in common with someone, it can be hard to figure out why you'd date them.
Benevulon
27-05-2008, 22:22
I'd probably socialize a lot more if I had people to socialize with. Currently the only people I'd consider real-life friends live quite far away from where I am. So, having nothing else to do, I sit down in front of my laptop, and either work or watch other people play games, because I don't really have time to play any myself.
I figured it was just 'cause you found it boring and not because of an irrational hatred of video games. That's fair enough, if you have nothing or very little in common with someone, it can be hard to figure out why you'd date them.
It's boredom, not irrational hatred, just to be clear.
Yeah, the thing is, I have met very few guys under 26 who aren't massively into video games.
So I suppose a hot guy over 21 who wasn't, and who had the nice ass I spoke of, COULD get some love. :P
Meh, im just really geeky...I like to read the stories behind videogames, if it doesnt have a good story, im probably not gonna like it...GTA blows, lol...
But, I only actually play for a few hours a week or so...
Most of my free time i spend on the Forums and MySpace, lol...
And yet millions of people watch TV upon hours and hours and criticize gamers for playing games a few hours a day :( *Iz sad. But haz cookie. Not sad* Couch potatoes = also yuck.
Besides, why don't you find us gamers attractive? We all put on our nerd suits when other people are around, but then (Like JuNii) Unzip and become buff supermen :p.
hahahahahaha...It's my bias. There is something so sad (to me) about a guy in his 30s who is nearly pissing himself with excitement because some new game came out. In the 20 something crowd, it's a bit less sad, but not by much.
Glitziness
27-05-2008, 22:28
I think my girlfriend would agree with this. We've had problems on and off due to my spending 2.5 days a week away from her purely for a sport. I really don't blame her
being in a long-distance relationship and not seeing each other for 5 days a week that doesn't sound too bad :P but it's all relative and about finding the balance that works for you (wooo vague statements!)
Everywhar
27-05-2008, 22:28
Not into it, never could get into it. Bores me to tears. TO TEARS!!!!
Maybe younger chicks are into gaming more? But guys who go ga-ga for the newest Grand Theft Auto...the ones who take time off work to play it and are pasty in the dead of summer from lack of outdoor exposure...I just can't find them sexy. I'm a bigoted bitch, I know, I admit it. Young guys get no love. Give me a 30 - 45 year old who'd rather cut wood and drill me thanks.
Nah, I can relate to this. Although I am a gamer myself, I feel that moderation in all things is important (including moderation of course ;)).
My sense is that you are right to be turned off by people who want to do nothing but game, but I see nothing about people being gamers per se that would be a turnoff if they can keep their lives in perspective.
And firm asses? Not too picky that way.
Sumamba Buwhan
27-05-2008, 22:28
fuck off Neesika, us gamers have really strong nimble fingers. Just let me finish this level and beat the boss and I'll show you.
fuck off Neesika, us gamers have really strong nimble fingers. Just let me finish this level and beat the boss and I'll show you.
Muahahahahahahahahaha :D
Everywhar
27-05-2008, 22:28
fuck off Neesika, us gamers have really strong nimble fingers. Just let me finish this level and beat the boss and I'll show you.
Us piano players still win. :)
Ruby City
27-05-2008, 22:30
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
That is so unfair! It is possible to like both video games, the outdoors and socializing and not be fat. After a wonderful 5 hour Sunday hike with a lot of casual talk and jokes along the way it's great to just sit down, relax and and play games for 2 hours.
I understand what you're saying though. I find TV watching which is an even less active activity than gaming to be a turnoff.
My sense is that you are right to be turned off by people who want to do nothing but game, but I see nothing about people being gamers per se that would be a turnoff if they can keep their lives in perspective. Hence the title of 'plays video games all the time' :D
People should have hobbies...nothing wrong with that. But there are less people obsessed with say...model train building, than those obsessed with video gaming, so I targeted that in particular:)
And firm asses? Not too picky that way.
Mmmmm...ass....
Glitziness
27-05-2008, 22:32
Not into it, never could get into it. Bores me to tears. TO TEARS!!!!
Maybe younger chicks are into gaming more?
It all depends on the game. If it's too serious/violent/long etc I'm bored. But there are two or three games I can really enjoy playing with my boyfriend. I wouldn't totally rule out all video games - some you could enjoy.
Sumamba Buwhan
27-05-2008, 22:32
Us piano players still win. :)
That's why I love when my wife fingers me.
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 22:33
Couch potatoes = also yuck.
hahahahahaha...It's my bias. There is something so sad (to me) about a guy in his 30s who is nearly pissing himself with excitement because some new game came out. In the 20 something crowd, it's a bit less sad, but not by much.
What about a guy in his fifties doing the same thing? *Remebers Grandfather is married, happily* Whoops, forget I said that :p.
I understand what you're saying though. I find TV watching which is an even less active activity than gaming to be a turnoff.
Ugh, agreed. There is so little quality television out there, I can't fathom wanting to watch it for that long.
Ha, then you have forum posting, which is a sad, sad thing I am engaging in at this very moment, reminding me that there are more important things in life...like masturbating and gardening :D
It all depends on the game. If it's too serious/violent/long etc I'm bored. But there are two or three games I can really enjoy playing with my boyfriend. I wouldn't totally rule out all video games - some you could enjoy.
I go on kicks...I like some of the DreamCatcher titles, but I get bored with it pretty quickly.
there are less people obsessed with say...model train building, than those obsessed with video gaming,
What about Sid Meier's Railroad Tycoon? :rolleyes:
Just don't combine them. *winces at the thought of garden trowel misuse*
Na, don't want to get earthworms in odd places.
Jello Biafra
27-05-2008, 22:36
Ha, then you have forum posting, which is a sad, sad thing I am engaging in at this very moment, reminding me that there are more important things in life...like masturbating and gardening :DJust don't combine them. *winces at the thought of garden trowel misuse*
Hence the title of 'plays video games all the time' :D
People should have hobbies...nothing wrong with that. But there are less people obsessed with say...model train building, than those obsessed with video gaming, so I targeted that in particular:)
then again, this could happen (http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20080516).
Dundee-Fienn
27-05-2008, 22:39
being in a long-distance relationship and not seeing each other for 5 days a week that doesn't sound too bad :P but it's all relative and about finding the balance that works for you (wooo vague statements!)
I think she would actually be happier with that kind of situation since it wouldn't be so much a case of me actively choosing to spend that time away but rather me being forced by a situation. C'est la vie, So ist das Leben, and all that jazz
Your problem is that you are not willing to compromise with anything, and with out it no relationship you have is going to work. You are going to be hard pressed to find males in the 20 to 30 age bracket that do not like to play video games in some form or another.
What you have to willing to do is to compromise and allow you boyfriend to play video games from time to time. However, in return, he should be willing to take you out camping.
Anything in moderation is ok, but it has to be a two way street, you give him something if he gives you something
I'm a 27 years old woman...
I play. I like videogames since I was...6/7 years old. I was raised amongst male brothers, and my house has always have some kind of videogame facility, either a computer, of a game console.
I used to play a lot, if I could find a game interesting to me, (not an easy task, although). Once I found the right game, I could play for hours until it was finished or mastered. I even went to tournaments of certain games.
Right now, given the fact that I study, and have two jobs, I don't play that much anymore, and mastering a game is harder and longer now than it used to be years ago, because I don't have enough time to dedicate my attention fully to it. However, it depends on how much you are fascinated for the thing.
In a normal week, I go to a club or have a drink/chatting/dancing session every friday's or saturday's night. However, saturday's afternoons? Yeah, that boss. And sundays after cooking? Time to take another look at that puzzle, or to master that combo. Micromanaging your time is the key.
Are the new boys too much into it? I date guys my age, and although they usually are into some kind of games, be either tabletop, roleplaying or videogames, they have to work, they like to socialize, and are to a degree, normal. Younger kids seem to be a little bit too much into it, but then again, I was a lot into it when I was 15. I remember I finished Final Fantasy Tactics, when I was like....19, in a week.
They eventually will grow up, and manage to get their addiction under control, I guess.
Farflorin
27-05-2008, 22:47
Date a guy who plays video games all the time? Hah! Honey, I married one that does. And good thing too otherwise I'd be told to stop playing as well. :)
Your problem is that you are not willing to compromise with anything, and with out it no relationship you have is going to work. You are going to be hard pressed to find males in the 20 to 30 age bracket that do not like to play video games in some form or another. Hence my general prejudice against younger guys.
What you have to willing to do is to compromise and allow you boyfriend to play video games from time to time. However, in return, he should be willing to take you out camping.No thanks, I just want a fuck toy, and if he's a video game freak, chances are I won't ever meet him, or I'll notice from his palour that he doesn't get out much, and decide I don't want to shag him.
Anything in moderation is ok, but it has to be a two way street, you give him something if he gives you somethingI like that two way street to involve things illegal in at least 30 states...not exchanging video games for beading time.
I'm a 27 years old woman...
I play. I like videogames since I was...6/7 years old. I was raised amongst male brothers, and my house has always have some kind of videogame facility, either a computer, of a game console. We were too poor...I remember my folks RENTING a nitendo game console once when I was about 11 :D
It's my youngest brother you see it in...eight years my junior, he's a fanatic. The rest of us managed to not get bitten by the gaming bug. I suppose I just don't get it.
Also I love the Spanish creeping into your English (hermanos hombres/masculinos) :D
Glitziness
27-05-2008, 22:53
Your problem is that you are not willing to compromise with anything, and with out it no relationship you have is going to work. You are going to be hard pressed to find males in the 20 to 30 age bracket that do not like to play video games in some form or another.
What you have to willing to do is to compromise and allow you boyfriend to play video games from time to time. However, in return, he should be willing to take you out camping.
Anything in moderation is ok, but it has to be a two way street, you give him something if he gives you something
I agree with what you say but she has specified playing "all the time" which suggests that he is the one unwilling to compromise.
And I think it's hypothetical rather than about an actual boyfriend...
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 22:54
I'm a 27 years old woman...
I play. I like videogames since I was...6/7 years old. I was raised amongst male brothers, and my house has always have some kind of videogame facility, either a computer, of a game console.
I used to play a lot, if I could find a game interesting to me, (not an easy task, although). Once I found the right game, I could play for hours until it was finished or mastered. I even went to tournaments of certain games.
Right now, given the fact that I study, and have two jobs, I don't play that much anymore, and mastering a game is harder and longer now than it used to be years ago, because I don't have enough time to dedicate my attention fully to it. However, it depends on how much you are fascinated for the thing.
In a normal week, I go to a club or have a drink/chatting/dancing session every friday's or saturday's night. However, saturday's afternoons? Yeah, that boss. And sundays after cooking? Time to take another look at that puzzle, or to master that combo. Micromanaging your time is the key.
Are the new boys too much into it? I date guys my age, and although they usually are into some kind of games, be either tabletop, roleplaying or videogames, they have to work, they like to socialize, and are to a degree, normal. Younger kids seem to be a little bit too much into it, but then again, I was a lot into it when I was 15. I remember I finished Final Fantasy Tactics, when I was like....19, in a week.
They eventually will grow up, and manage to get their addiction under control, I guess.
My grandparents have yet to get their addiction under control, as do I, and my Aunt :D.
Sumamba Buwhan
27-05-2008, 22:54
I was watching some friends play GTA online and was all in love with it. WANT!
I agree with what you say but she has specified playing "all the time" which suggests that he is the one unwilling to compromise.
And I think it's hypothetical rather than about an actual boyfriend...
This.
Everywhar
27-05-2008, 22:55
That's why I love when my wife fingers me.
:cool:
Hence my general prejudice against younger guys.
No thanks, I just want a fuck toy, and if he's a video game freak, chances are I won't ever meet him, or I'll notice from his palour that he doesn't get out much, and decide I don't want to shag him.
Or you could date women. I hear they play computer/video games on the whole.
I was watching some friends play GTA online and was all in love with it. WANT!
Geek.
How did you fly in under my radar? I'm so not fucking you anymore.
:cool:
Or you could date women. I hear they play computer/video games on the whole.
Not quite sure what you're saying here, but yes, younger women are okay. Younger men, not so much :D
Hence my general prejudice against younger guys.
No thanks, I just want a fuck toy, and if he's a video game freak, chances are I won't ever meet him, or I'll notice from his palour that he doesn't get out much, and decide I don't want to shag him.
I like that two way street to involve things illegal in at least 30 states...not exchanging video games for beading time.
Then my advice to you would to get a blow up doll, less work to they will always do the things you want to, if not you can just buy the needed parts.
Then my advice to you would to get a blow up doll, less work to they will always do the things you want to, if not you can just buy the needed parts.
Na, but when younger guys go 'why aren't you into me' I will point them to this thread and fuck their older brothers.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ugh, you're a Calgarian.
Actually it is worse, I grew up in Edmonton.
The horror!
I still live here, so I guess I can't slag you too much.
Ugh, you're a Calgarian.
Actually it is worse, I grew up in Edmonton.
Everywhar
27-05-2008, 23:00
Not quite sure what you're saying here, but yes, younger women are okay. Younger men, not so much :D
Not quite sure what you're not quite sure I'm saying... Or not?
I was just remarking because younger guys are unlikely to get over video games, and if you want a fuck toy, I would think you'd want a younger one rather than an older one...
Na, but when younger guys go 'why aren't you into me' I will point them to this thread and fuck their older brothers.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ugh, you're a Calgarian.
:p
Or not. I guess I miss.
The horror!
I still live here, so I guess I can't slag you too much.
My advice is to get out ASAP
Sumamba Buwhan
27-05-2008, 23:05
Geek.
How did you fly in under my radar? I'm so not fucking you anymore.
Because my gaming skills learned me how to score points with you and use my joy stick effectively.
You know you can't give me up now.
We were too poor...I remember my folks RENTING a nitendo game console once when I was about 11 :D
It's my youngest brother you see it in...eight years my junior, he's a fanatic. The rest of us managed to not get bitten by the gaming bug. I suppose I just don't get it.
Also I love the Spanish creeping into your English (hermanos hombres/masculinos) :D
Well, here in the third world wasn't, and actually isn't, easy. Father has never liked the things, and have ever forever called them "a waste of time", and the only system we got from him was an old Odyssey, (did anyone played that?). I remember my older brother and me raising money from our scholarships for almost a year to buy the Nintendo we were dreaming with, and it was the weird asian version where you inserted the cartridge from the top, because it was way cheaper than the american, and it was ugly and yellow (famicom, I think people called it). When we bought the Nintendo, it was only a year before Super Nintendo came out. We were always lagged behind the hype of the games, but that allowed us to purchase both the systems and the games way cheaper as they were either used or outdated. In my house we purchased a year ago a PlayStation2, when the hype was the PS3, and it is still the most new piece of gaming equipment there. My calculations allows me to predict that we (my younger brother and me) can buy a Wii perhaps the next year, if everything is ok.
The kids, well, yeah, I used to own part of a Cybercafé years ago, (when I decided that I could do some investment in something to stop working my ass to death). I was amazed with how much time the younger kids could pass just playing in a lan party, and how much they were willing to pay for it. Some of them were just addicted.
Aaand well. I try, but sometimes the latina inside stirs and gets bored of the english grammar. "Male brothers", what an idiot I am.
My grandparents have yet to get their addiction under control, as do I, and my Aunt :D.
Yep, you lack control. Perhaps when I'm 65 and retired I'll start to play again with the same vigor as before. When you are working too much, you lack time to work, study, cook, clean, have friends, and dedicate to find a good "get laid" from time and time, to have time to be addicted to videogame.
Farflorin
27-05-2008, 23:13
Actually it is worse, I grew up in Edmonton.
Edmonton is better than Calgary, which both suck because both cities are stuck in redneck Canada. :p (hah!)
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 23:14
Yep, you lack control. Perhaps when I'm 65 and retired I'll start to play again with the same vigor as before. When you are working too much, you lack time to work, study, cook, clean, have friends, and dedicate to find a good "get laid" from time and time, to have time to be addicted to videogame.
Erm... I didn't quite understand that post, after the "Working too much" part.
Edmonton is better than Calgary, which both suck because both cities are stuck in redneck Canada. :p (hah!)
Not going to argue:D
Erm... I didn't quite understand that post, after the "Working too much" part.
In the middle part of your life, you will realize that as you need to work and you also have a lot of duties and responsabilities, you lack enough time as to have an addiction to videogames. Plus, you learn to dedicate fractions of your time to other leisure activities, usually interacting with the real world in one way or another.
Chandelier
27-05-2008, 23:20
I don't get what's so great about going outside and socializing. Whenever I go outside the sun makes it very clear that I'm not meant to be outside at all by burning me, and socializing usually at least results in boredom and also often results in being picked on. It's just not very fun for me to spend time with people. The only time I do and it's fun is if I'm on a computer with them or playing a video game or watching a movie with them. That's pretty much what my birthday parties and my friend's birthday parties have always consisted of... but then my brothers and I started playing video games when they were 2 and I was 5... that's when we each got a Gameboy Pocket.
But then I've obviously never been interested in dating, and my brothers haven't shown any interest in it either yet, so it wouldn't bother any of us if anyone were uninterested in dating us because we like to play games.
Seriously all three of us will pretty much spend all weekend playing on computers if our parents don't make us take breaks. And when we do take breaks it's usually either to do homework or just kind of sit around or take a nap or read, because, really, what else is there to do?
It's never really occurred to me that I could possibly go outside without being required or forced to, actually... :confused: I'm honestly confused as to what one would do outside...
Jello Biafra
27-05-2008, 23:20
Or you could date women. I hear they play computer/video games on the whole.Is this a pun?
Benevulon
27-05-2008, 23:21
In the middle part of your life, you will realize that as you need to work and you also have a lot of duties and responsabilities, you lack enough time as to have an addiction to videogames. Plus, you learn to dedicate fractions of your time to other leisure activities, usually interacting with the real world in one way or another.
I hope this won't be true in my case, since it would kind of suck to be too busy making games to actually play games... But oh well, at least I'll be able to "have fun" helping with QA here and there.
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 23:22
In the middle part of your life, you will realize that as you need to work and you also have a lot of duties and responsabilities, you lack enough time as to have an addiction to videogames. Plus, you learn to dedicate fractions of your time to other leisure activities, usually interacting with the real world in one way or another.
Well, my grandparents both still interact with the real world, as do I. I just finished the silmarion, I also play baseball, do chores, play with my dog,etc,. My grandparents still work, and yet we all still have time to break out the PS2/computer/Wii/whatever and get an hour or two, or threee in :p.
Miranda Shadow
27-05-2008, 23:23
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
I'm more interested in other wimmin. :D
Smunkeeville
27-05-2008, 23:24
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
If there was one thing I could change about hubby, it would be to lessen his gaming addictions, and replace them with being more comfortable with outdoorsy stuff, I am unsure what other parts of his personality this would affect though, so I am sure it's a bad idea.
When we first got married he would play Zelda for like 18 hours straight, I thought I was going to have to kill him. I'm an attention whore, that stupid Link was breaking into my time.
Trade Orginizations
27-05-2008, 23:24
I am a guy in this generation you speak of. I find that it isn't so much a generational thing as a group idea. It seems that those that are really into video games, kinda congregate together. I enjoy video games like most teenage boys, however I like most boys I know would not lock myself in a room to play video games and can never play for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Benevulon
27-05-2008, 23:26
When we first got married he would play Zelda for like 18 hours straight, I thought I was going to have to kill him. I'm an attention whore, that stupid Link was breaking into my time.
Haha, this reminds me of when I was a kid and I rented out Legend of Zelda, I'd always name my character Zelda because I wasn't very imaginative when it came to names and I thought that you played Zelda... Who knows, if I hadn't done that I might have been able to enjoy the game, and would have developed a real addiction to videogames, instead of the half-assed 'I've got nothing better to do at the moment and it's really fun' attitude I have towards them.
Smunkeeville
27-05-2008, 23:36
Haha, this reminds me of when I was a kid and I rented out Legend of Zelda, I'd always name my character Zelda because I wasn't very imaginative when it came to names and I thought that you played Zelda... Who knows, if I hadn't done that I might have been able to enjoy the game, and would have developed a real addiction to videogames, instead of the half-assed 'I've got nothing better to do at the moment and it's really fun' attitude I have towards them.
My husband is the fucktard who can't just "beat" the game, he has to go back through and try to get everything, then he has to go back through and try to get everything with one life, or go through and try to get everything but not use any of his life force or go through and try to get everything except weapons and try to beat it that way... he's obsessed.
Luckily after nearly 8 years of marriage we have figured out the boundaries. He plays on nights when I am at the gym, on days when I am at work, and on Saturdays until about 2.
Trade Orginizations
27-05-2008, 23:36
Haha, this reminds me of when I was a kid and I rented out Legend of Zelda, I'd always name my character Zelda because I wasn't very imaginative when it came to names and I thought that you played Zelda... Who knows, if I hadn't done that I might have been able to enjoy the game, and would have developed a real addiction to videogames, instead of the half-assed 'I've got nothing better to do at the moment and it's really fun' attitude I have towards them.
That is basically my attitude. I much prefer to read or draw but I don't always have what I need to do those things so I figure I will play video games.
Benevulon
27-05-2008, 23:39
My husband is the fucktard who can't just "beat" the game, he has to go back through and try to get everything, then he has to go back through and try to get everything with one life, or go through and try to get everything but not use any of his life force or go through and try to get everything except weapons and try to beat it that way... he's obsessed.
Luckily after nearly 8 years of marriage we have figured out the boundaries. He plays on nights when I am at the gym, on days when I am at work, and on Saturdays until about 2.
Wow. I'm starting to find it odd that people call me a hard-core gamer... For instance, when I get an RPG (or jRPG for the people that care), I immediately start looking online for a story-spoilers-less walkthrough. Maxing out on levels and going back to super over-kill that level 5 slime that annoyed you in the starting area is a lot more important to me than finding everything by myself.
Everywhar
28-05-2008, 00:24
Is this a pun?
No, and I'm rather offended that you'd think I'm here to make stupid puns...
Jello Biafra
28-05-2008, 00:31
No, and I'm rather offended that you'd think I'm here to make stupid puns...You're not here for that.
...you're here for your tight, firm ass.
Rotten bacon
28-05-2008, 00:41
i play video games occasionally and i'm in the boy scouts (the out doors requierment.) where would that put me? hypotheticly speaking
I don't get what's so great about going outside and socializing. Whenever I go outside the sun makes it very clear that I'm not meant to be outside at all by burning me, and socializing usually at least results in boredom and also often results in being picked on. It's just not very fun for me to spend time with people. The only time I do and it's fun is if I'm on a computer with them or playing a video game or watching a movie with them. That's pretty much what my birthday parties and my friend's birthday parties have always consisted of... but then my brothers and I started playing video games when they were 2 and I was 5... that's when we each got a Gameboy Pocket.
But then I've obviously never been interested in dating, and my brothers haven't shown any interest in it either yet, so it wouldn't bother any of us if anyone were uninterested in dating us because we like to play games.
Seriously all three of us will pretty much spend all weekend playing on computers if our parents don't make us take breaks. And when we do take breaks it's usually either to do homework or just kind of sit around or take a nap or read, because, really, what else is there to do?
It's never really occurred to me that I could possibly go outside without being required or forced to, actually... :confused: I'm honestly confused as to what one would do outside...
And so you complete the circle, staying for more videogame activity, making the sun burn you more than before, and ostracizing your social capabilities, that make you the target of the pickings, that reinforce the idea that video games are better and so forth...
I hope this won't be true in my case, since it would kind of suck to be too busy making games to actually play games... But oh well, at least I'll be able to "have fun" helping with QA here and there.
Oh, yeah, "The Dream". I have heard it like...50 times. I have never seen someone who managed to reach "The Level". Good luck. The closer someone has been to "The Dream", (me), is just to be a playtester for free, and assist to the occassional press release of some game. (They give good prizes. I have a free Collector's Edition of Warhammer Online resting on my room).
Well, my grandparents both still interact with the real world, as do I. I just finished the silmarion, I also play baseball, do chores, play with my dog,etc,. My grandparents still work, and yet we all still have time to break out the PS2/computer/Wii/whatever and get an hour or two, or threee in :p.
Then none of you are addicted. You fail at defining "addiction". You are as addicted as me. If I find suddenly two hours free, yeah, if alone, is tackling Oblivion, if in group, some Tekken/SoulCalibur/Lineage II/Battlefield 2.
Everywhar
28-05-2008, 00:57
You're not here for that.
...you're here for your tight, firm ass.
That's my purpose in the world, not the forum. :D
Steel Butterfly
28-05-2008, 01:00
It's just all about time management. I play games, and nationstates, when I get the chance. However, I make sure to also set aside set time for the gf, for the gym, for homework, etc. It's really not that hard to pull off if you give it some effort.
I'm 33, and I feel that socialising cuts into my gaming time. I also feel that being employed cuts into my gaming time. I wonder how I'll do with child rearing.
[NS]Click Stand
28-05-2008, 01:16
I'm 33, and I feel that socialising cuts into my gaming time. I also feel that being employed cuts into my gaming time. I wonder how I'll do with child rearing.
As do sleeping and eating. Damn human body not being able to keep up with virtual body.
When we first got married he would play Zelda for like 18 hours straight, I thought I was going to have to kill him. I'm an attention whore, that stupid Link was breaking into my time.
Idea: get him THIS GAME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_Blue) either 1 2 or 3.
then after a couple of days playing, suggest that you go camping. :D
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 01:27
Oh, yeah, "The Dream". I have heard it like...50 times. I have never seen someone who managed to reach "The Level". Good luck. The closer someone has been to "The Dream", (me), is just to be a playtester for free, and assist to the occassional press release of some game. (They give good prizes. I have a free Collector's Edition of Warhammer Online resting on my room).
Considering I'm getting a job at a company that develops games, I think I'm entitled to believe that I'll be making games.
Considering I'm getting a job at a company that develops games, I think I'm entitled to believe that I'll be making games.
In Israel? What kind of games, what company?
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 01:47
In Israel? What kind of games, what company?
Yeah, apparently here in Israel they're (or I suppose, soon, we're) trying to work on developing a games industry. There's lots of people, but there aren't enough resources yet.
At the moment it's mostly casual games, but there's some more serious titles as well, like this (http://www.rising-eagle.com/) (it's free, so as you can see the industry still isn't at the top of the game).
Ever played that Flash Portal game? I met the guy who developed it. He's an Israeli, and he's 16 years old. Amazing stuff.
Anyway, I said I'm getting the job, but I might not, though the prospects seem good (I got two personal interviews, in the latter I got to show them how I make a simple game from scratch according to their instructions, which I think went well, the people they asked about me highly-recommended me, etc').
The company is called Mo'Minis. They specialize in games for the cellphone, and apparently developed an engine which lets them create games that work on all the different brands without needing to port them. The game engine works about the same way GameMaker does, which is great for me since I really liked that program.
Edit: Oh, to clarify, the company is a start-up. I'm not going to claim to possibly be joining a big-shot company. But I did say that I am getting the job as if it was certain, to which I apologise.
No thanks, I just want a fuck toy, and if he's a video game freak, chances are I won't ever meet him, or I'll notice from his palour that he doesn't get out much, and decide I don't want to shag him.
so you really want an outdoorsy, action fuck toy. :cool:
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 02:36
Hey, I would date a game geek. Sure beats buying all those games from a shop. ;)
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 02:37
so you really want an outdoorsy, action fuck toy. :cool:
A full size Action Jackson. *nod*
Chandelier
28-05-2008, 02:42
And so you complete the circle, staying for more videogame activity, making the sun burn you more than before, and ostracizing your social capabilities, that make you the target of the pickings, that reinforce the idea that video games are better and so forth...
I just don't see why socializing should be so much of a main goal or why it should be considered any less a "waste of time" than playing video games or spending time on a computer. Even when it doesn't end in being picked on, (or feeling like people are picking on me, anyway, even if they really aren't) social situations always make me feel like I'm putting up a persona and I'm not really being me. I have to act and pretend when I'm around other people and that's not really fun. Or even if I'm not really acting it feels like I'm not really being me, unless I'm with one of my best friends. And sometimes that still doesn't feel like me. I like being me, so I like being alone. And I can never tell if people are actually being nice to me or if they're just pretending to be nice so they can make fun of me behind my back later. I don't think there's really any way to tell, is there?
I don't know if it's a feeling left over from that period of my life when I got nauseous whenever I was around other people or what. But I don't see why spending time outdoors or socializing is any less a waste of time than playing video games or why it should be considered any better. It's just a personal preference of what's more fun to you. And I don't think anyone answered me about how it's fun to be with people or spend time outside... because I asked about that because I don't know what's fun about it, and I can't even think of anything fun to do outside. I don't know, take a walk? What else is there to do outside?
And actually I burned easily because of the medicine that I have to take which makes me sensitive to sunlight, not because I play video games sometimes. I spend most of my time on a computer but not only games, I read and write a lot on the computer, too.
^
A far more valid question directed at all eligible womenfolk on the forum.
Yootopia
28-05-2008, 03:08
I'm honestly confused as to what one would do outside...
Kick about enjoying nature. Take your shoes off and feel the grass on your feet. Listen to the birds. Take in some fresh air inbetween talking to your friends about whatever comes up. Superb times. Was what we were meant to do.
Yootopia
28-05-2008, 03:10
I wonder how I'll do with child rearing.
Get that child in a crêche and fret no more!
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 03:21
I don't get what's so great about going outside and socializing.
[...]
But then I've obviously never been interested in dating, and my brothers haven't shown any interest in it either yet, so it wouldn't bother any of us if anyone were uninterested in dating us because we like to play games.
[...]
There's a lot more to hanging out than "dating." If you can be physically in the presence of someone other than family, without getting assaulted in some way, it helps to dispel those fears. A lot of people do have decent respect for each other and don't insist on objectifying each others' bodies ... you just need a common interest and some time together.
And as the sunburn thing ... a hat, long sleeves and suncream should fix that. Really sounds like an excuse to me.
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 04:13
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
I'm with you, sister-girl. I like a bit of a game now and then, and I do like me some geek, but these game addicts... Well, addicts in general -- see the problem with an addict is that he's already addicted to something other than me, and that makes him annoying -- because there's nothing a woman likes better than being made to feel like she's an afterthought or the guy is doing her a huge favor by making time for her out of his busy orc-fragging schedule or whatever. Because we all know that the true hallmark of red-blooded masculine he-man-ery is to find orc-fragging more fun than sex. That's why the men of the 21st century would rather diddle their computers than their girls or do any of the social things that might make a woman think they might be good in bed.
I look at it this way: A little gaming now and then is good clean wholesome fun (unless it's Second Life, which just creeps me out), but in addition to that I like to see how a man moves, talks, dresses (as if he's looking for a mate, for instance), behaves towards other people, etc, all to judge whether he's going to be a fun companion for me, both in and out of the bedroom. Otherwise, what is there for me in the relationship? A few 15-minute bouts of getting him off now and then? He can hire a hooker for that, rather than take up my time.
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 04:16
I got the idea that a majority of the wimmin on NSG are gamers themselves, maybe I'm completely wrong on that one.
Just out of interest, how important is a firm ass? :p
It is extremely important. Trust me and hit a gym.
I'm with you, sister-girl. I like a bit of a game now and then, and I do like me some geek, but these game addicts... Well, addicts in general -- see the problem with an addict is that he's already addicted to something other than me, and that makes him annoying -- because there's nothing a woman likes better than being made to feel like she's an afterthought or the guy is doing her a huge favor by making time for her out of his busy orc-fragging schedule or whatever. Because we all know that the true hallmark of red-blooded masculine he-man-ery is to find orc-fragging more fun than sex. That's why the men of the 21st century would rather diddle their computers than their girls or do any of the social things that might make a woman think they might be good in bed.
I'll be right with you babe, I just have to finish killing this dragon.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
28-05-2008, 04:18
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
Wait, what about the guys who are not into video games???? There are still a lot of them around.
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 04:20
Why not play video games with him?
Because I don't need him to play video games with. I can do that on my own, and prefer it that way.
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 04:22
I'll be right with you babe, I just have to finish killing this dragon.
The sad part is that you think you're joking. :D
The sad part is that you think you're joking. :D
which part? :p
Everywhar
28-05-2008, 04:33
I'll be right with you babe, I just have to finish killing this dragon.
After you meet your reflex save, right?
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 04:47
which part? :p
The part that thinks men don't do that every day -- and not just game addicts.
The part that thinks men don't do that every day -- and not just game addicts.
kill the dragon? Isn't that what I have you for dear? ;)
Fassitude
28-05-2008, 05:11
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
Sexual discrimination. For that, you won't get my two öre.
Muravyets
28-05-2008, 05:40
kill the dragon? Isn't that what I have you for dear? ;)
It's true. I don't need a man to kill dragons for me, either.
But I was referring to the "I'll be right with you, babe, I just have to finish this <boring non-sexual activity> first" part.
But I was referring to the "I'll be right with you, babe, I just have to finish this <boring non-sexual activity> first" part.
Oh trust me, we'll never have those problems :p
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 05:55
I don't really play a lot of games any more, but I certainly do have an addictive personality, and just now my addiction is NSG.
I'm trying to toss up whether to get a laptop ... or a commode chair. Help me NSG !
Intangelon
28-05-2008, 06:15
I'm an ass woman:)
You are the best.
Not into it, never could get into it. Bores me to tears. TO TEARS!!!!
Maybe younger chicks are into gaming more? But guys who go ga-ga for the newest Grand Theft Auto...the ones who take time off work to play it and are pasty in the dead of summer from lack of outdoor exposure...I just can't find them sexy. I'm a bigoted bitch, I know, I admit it. Young guys get no love. Give me a 30 - 45 year old who'd rather cut wood and drill me thanks.
/me volunteers
I've cut plenty of wood in my time and drilling you would be both a pleasure and an honor. The banter alone would be anteforeplay.
Kiryu-shi
28-05-2008, 06:58
Hey Sinny, I'm farming five days a week now, and hiking three-four days a week, and going on a ten day trek through uninhabited mountains in June. And I can totally get a fake ID sometime. Wanna fly me up to Canadia-land? ;)
>.>
Dryks Legacy
28-05-2008, 10:05
hahahahahaha...It's my bias. There is something so sad (to me) about a guy in his 30s who is nearly pissing himself with excitement because some new game came out. In the 20 something crowd, it's a bit less sad, but not by much.
Even if they're getting paid for it? :p
It's never really occurred to me that I could possibly go outside without being required or forced to, actually... :confused: I'm honestly confused as to what one would do outside...
I'd love to be able to just lie in the sun and think, but I'm too impatient, restless and paranoid :(
Ever played that Flash Portal game? I met the guy who developed it. He's an Israeli, and he's 16 years old. Amazing stuff.
I played the first few levels, but then went back to playing proper Portal. And now that someone has ported Flash Portal's levels into proper Portal, I have little reason to go back to it.
Pure Metal
28-05-2008, 11:03
but the outdoors is scary, and cold.... and, on days like today, reminiscent of Dickensian picture of bleak and mist-veiled pre-Victorian London (ie. depressing) ;)
i enjoy my video games (and TV), largely as an escape from work, which is pretty crap at the mo. when i get home from work, i'm fed up with thinking hard and solving difficult problems with cost-effective solutions... i just want to turn off and have some fun. at weekends we'll go out for walks, picknicks, "outdoors" style things, but during the week when i'm on my own, video games are my chosen way to relax (it beats getting high and drunk, as was my preferred relaxation technique a few years back). doing outdoors activities is also difficult when i don't get home till, usually, 8 in the evening and won't finish having tea till 9 o'clock.
i'm 23 - call me sad if you want.
Cabra West
28-05-2008, 11:07
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
I'm not that much into videogames myself, except the odd adventure game now and then. But I don't mind blokes being into it. My fiance certainly isn't, but my youngest brother and his friends are (and yes, I would date some of his friends ;) )
I have to admit that I'm not too keen on the outdoors myself, so I wouldn't really be into guys that are...
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 11:36
I played the first few levels, but then went back to playing proper Portal. And now that someone has ported Flash Portal's levels into proper Portal, I have little reason to go back to it.
Still, more than 50 million people played Flash Portal. I think that's quite a success for a game originally made for the purpose of the guy making it being able to play Portal before it actually comes out.
Anyway, for the person asking about what you can do outside. Well, in the past, you could go to a video-game arcade. Maybe there are still some around where you live.
Chandelier
28-05-2008, 12:00
Kick about enjoying nature. Take your shoes off and feel the grass on your feet. Listen to the birds. Take in some fresh air inbetween talking to your friends about whatever comes up. Superb times. Was what we were meant to do.
Sounds a little bit boring. And it's too hot out to do stuff like that much. :(
There's a lot more to hanging out than "dating." If you can be physically in the presence of someone other than family, without getting assaulted in some way, it helps to dispel those fears. A lot of people do have decent respect for each other and don't insist on objectifying each others' bodies ... you just need a common interest and some time together.
And as the sunburn thing ... a hat, long sleeves and suncream should fix that. Really sounds like an excuse to me.
A common interest like... video games? :p
Seriously, when my friend who's a year older came back from his far-away college for Spring Break, he called me to see if me and my brother wanted to come over to play video games with him for a while. We did, it was fun. :)
And I have to be with people at school, and I even went to things like "Grad Nite", which was fun because it was at Disney World (and it was at night, so no risk of sunburn and not too hot...), but I couldn't imagine doing stuff like that with so many people on any sort of regular basis.
Yeah, sunscreen would help, but the time I recently got burned I was volunteering and didn't know I was going to be outside for that long... but long sleeves in 90-degree weather don't sound very good... it's a tradeoff between getting burned and overheating, I guess?
I'd love to be able to just lie in the sun and think, but I'm too impatient, restless and paranoid :(
Sounds like it might be okay, but too hot and you can just lie down and think inside.
Anyway, for the person asking about what you can do outside. Well, in the past, you could go to a video-game arcade. Maybe there are still some around where you live.
Those aren't really outside. They're just in buildings other than your own home... and the kinds of games in arcades don't particularly appeal to me as much as games like the Sims 2. I'd play them at Disney Quest, though (which is awesome!)
Pure Metal
28-05-2008, 12:00
I just don't see why socializing should be so much of a main goal or why it should be considered any less a "waste of time" than playing video games or spending time on a computer.
...
and that's not really fun (for me)
good point, that. people are different. if you like 'the great outdoors' then by all means, go enjoy it and seek out a partner and friends who will enjoy it with you. if you don't find outdoor activities fun, then that's fine too, and get yourself a partner/friends to match. just don't go telling other people to go do things that you enjoy, because you enjoy it, when they may well not be doing those things with good reason.
edit: general point, no necessarily directed at the OP/anyone. i don't know... i'm too tired to think today.
Of course it's all balance. I don't really see it as different to any hobby - if it gets too obsessive, that's bad, or if it prevents spending time together, that's bad. Otherwise, everyone has their own ways of relaxing *shrugs*
My bf likes playing video games, and there might be phases where he plays quite a lot cos a new favourite game has come out, but when we're together, I get his attention. If we're spending the weekend together, he can play a bit when I'm getting ready in the morning and having a shower, or spend half an hour playing while I read a book, but he's more than happy to not.
And there's always playing video games together and having fun! :D
yay for Lego Star Wars! and Guitar Hero, and Mario Kart! fun games to play together :fluffle:
GTA IV has been keeping me glued to the screen a little more than usual lately....
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 12:07
Those aren't really outside. They're just in buildings other than your own home... and the kinds of games in arcades don't particularly appeal to me as much as games like the Sims 2. I'd play them at Disney Quest, though (which is awesome!)
But you need to go outside to be able to enter them. So there you go!
Oh... The Sims 2? Well, I suppose arcade games really won't appeal to you. Anyway, some other geeky stuff you could do outside would be some LARPing.
(by the way, I don't actually do any of that, I also stay at home a lot)
Chandelier
28-05-2008, 12:11
But you need to go outside to be able to enter them. So there you go!
Oh... The Sims 2? Well, I suppose arcade games really won't appeal to you. Anyway, some other geeky stuff you could do outside would be some LARPing.
(by the way, I don't actually do any of that, I also stay at home a lot)
Well, some arcade-ish games appeal to me, I guess. Just not as much. I don't know if they're arcade games, but I love Super Smash Bros. and games like that, too, I just don't play them as much on my own.
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 12:19
Well, some arcade-ish games appeal to me, I guess. Just not as much. I don't know if they're arcade games, but I love Super Smash Bros. and games like that, too, I just don't play them as much on my own.
Hmm, that reminds me that I need to look into something.
Well, just do what you like. No reason to force yourself to do something else.
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
If your partner is selfish to the point of indulging his hobby while ignoring you, then he's a jackass. Doesn't matter what his hobby is.
Whenever people advise women to "just accept" anything about men, you can safely ignore those people. At least you can if you ever want a chance at a happy relationship. Don't settle. No relationship is better than a lousy relationship. And any time somebody claims to know what "all men" like, they are a lying loser who should be ignored. They probably have very bad sex.
Plenty of guys aren't interested in videogames. Plenty of guys think videogames are fun, but they'd rather do other things most of the time. Plenty of guys who love videogames are also interested in the outdoors. And believe me, plenty of videogame-geeks have great asses.
With all that said...
I happen to enjoy videogames a whole lot. Like, a really lot. Like, if you added it up I've probably spent several years of my life playing videogames. My first videogame was when I was four and Dad brought home an Apple IIe computer and we played Wizardry together. I was declared Street Fighter 2 Champion Of the World at Marc Silbershatz's 10th birthday party. So yeah.
My partner also loves videogames. This works out very well for us. When we were having to do the long-distance relationship thing for a couple years, we could "spend time" together by playing an MMORPG (City of Heroes), and that was absolutely wonderful. Now that we live together, our Wii is our child and we are very devoted parents.
Being interested in videogames doesn't mean you exclude other things from your life. At least, it doesn't if you are a grown up and can balance your life. If you're dating somebody who isn't a grown up and can't balance their life, then that probably sucks no matter what their hobby is.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
28-05-2008, 12:45
Just so long as he doesn't play World of Warcraft. That game will tear people apart. (Seen it and been on the receiving end.)
Jello Biafra
28-05-2008, 12:47
That's my purpose in the world, not the forum. :DBut by being on the forum, everyone gets to enjoy it.
If you take pics, anyway.
Because I don't need him to play video games with. I can do that on my own, and prefer it that way.Some games are more fun alone than with another person playing, I could see why you might not want someone else to play with if you enjoy that type of game. However, some games are enhanced with another person playing.
Just so long as he doesn't play World of Warcraft. That game will tear people apart. (Seen it and been on the receiving end.)
This much is true. That game is crack and must be stopped. :(
Some games are more fun alone than with another person playing, I could see why you might not want someone else to play with if you enjoy that type of game. However, some games are enhanced with another person playing.
Case in point:
The new MarioKart would be 700 times better if they'd kept the Double Dash feature where two people can ride on one car. Himself and I played Double Dash so much we both got hand cramps. Our roommates got home and we were sitting their with our hands in bowls of ice water so we could play again.
Dryks Legacy
28-05-2008, 12:53
Sounds like it might be okay, but too hot and you can just lie down and think inside.
Yeah, but I can't be here (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7620/img0442py0.jpg) when I'm inside, and I know that while it probably doesn't appeal to you, personally I want to go there more often.
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 13:06
I'm not ashamed of my arse, but be damned if I'm going to 'work out' to make it satisfactory to anyone.
I'm not offended by the suggestion, it just isn't for me. I love my body because it is mine, it's the mortal base of my consciousness ... and anyone who tries to form it to suit their own tastes can go take a flying fuck at a rolling sausage.
Anyone who doesn't love my mind doesn't love me. End of.
My brother is far, far worse than me when it comes to video games. 16 hours straight on the 360 is his record...me and my friends were nowhere near as bad as he is.
Nobel Hobos
28-05-2008, 13:57
My brother is far, far worse than me when it comes to video games. 16 hours straight on the 360 is his record...me and my friends were nowhere near as bad as he is.
That's nothing. When I discovered Civilization (civ 1) I missed two nights' sleep and actually peed my pants for "one more turn."
I wasn't even on my own computer ... or in my own house.
the Great Dawn
28-05-2008, 13:58
If you want to game, and be social: get yourself a Wii.
Anyway, I can imagine why chicks don't like me. I don't work out (I don't wanna get super-trim or something, but a more healthy physique is important for myself as well, a 17 year old with a little beerbelly...o dear), I barely leave the house except for work and school, I play WoW (although I'm thinking of stopping or taking a break). Think it's because of the place where I live, nothing around here, no one around here like me. Not even a slightly stimulating enviroment, so I can't be arsed to do anything.
Pure Metal
28-05-2008, 14:04
That's nothing. When I discovered Civilization (civ 1) I missed two nights' sleep and actually peed my pants for "one more turn."
I wasn't even on my own computer ... or in my own house.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww... :p
epic.
I look at it this way: A little gaming now and then is good clean wholesome fun (unless it's Second Life, which just creeps me out), but in addition to that I like to see how a man moves, talks, dresses (as if he's looking for a mate, for instance), behaves towards other people, etc, all to judge whether he's going to be a fun companion for me, both in and out of the bedroom. Otherwise, what is there for me in the relationship? A few 15-minute bouts of getting him off now and then? He can hire a hooker for that, rather than take up my time.
Sista, TESTIFY!
I've dumped alcoholics, party-addicts, criminals, and sports-freaks all because they got more excited about their various obsessions than they ever got about me, or any other woman. Something about that is a major turn off.
You no got the time? You no get the pussy.
Sexual discrimination. For that, you won't get my two öre.
You're a wimmin too, bitch.
And keep your filthy foreign currency. I expected you'd just state your opinion on the matter, invited explicitly or no.
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
If you're the kind of guy who just doesn't have the looks and inborn social skills to get women to suck your dick within 30 minutes of meeting them, you may find video games less intimidating.
Everyone younger today is into instant gratification. If you can't master it in a day, it's not worth doing. So why bother with working on a relationship, or trying to socialize long enough to get laid?
Ask her if she wants to fuck, right when you meet her. If she says she isn't the kind that fucks on the first date, go home, wank, and play xBox.
I've seen younger guys doing exactly this strategy - works for them, and the women are left hanging.
Hey Sinny, I'm farming five days a week now, and hiking three-four days a week, and going on a ten day trek through uninhabited mountains in June. And I can totally get a fake ID sometime. Wanna fly me up to Canadia-land? ;)
>.>
You know you are the exception to the no-on-under-21 rule. Besides, you're mostly legal now, so I no longer have to agonise about lusting over the amazing lips of a minor. We can work this out over at UMP :)
You are the best.
/me volunteers
I've cut plenty of wood in my time and drilling you would be both a pleasure and an honor. The banter alone would be anteforeplay.
Oh the banter is a big part of the foreplay, forget the anteforeplay :D
i'm 23 - call me sad if you want.
Except you have a hot girlfriend who thinks you rock. You escape the 'sad' label by definition :)
Wilgrove
28-05-2008, 16:36
Meh, I don't play video games that often, I'm more of a computer game kind of person. Now the lady that I am interested in, she is a huge gamer. She has at least a hundred titles for both XBox and PS3. I watch her play sometimes, and yea it does get boring to watch someone play a single player game, but hey, it what makes her happy.
Beside, she's a Detention Officer (High stress job), and she needs some way to wind down from the day.
Poliwanacraca
28-05-2008, 16:45
As others have said, being a gamer is perfectly fine - more than fine, in fact, since I'm definitely a fan of video games myself and dearly love the geeky-boys. Being addicted to games to the point where he doesn't pay attention to me is not.
As others have said, being a gamer is perfectly fine - more than fine, in fact, since I'm definitely a fan of video games myself and dearly love the geeky-boys. Being addicted to games to the point where he doesn't pay attention to me is not.
I'm perfectly capable of doing two things at once.
Now get me a soda, I'm playing a game.
Wilgrove
28-05-2008, 16:53
I'm perfectly capable of doing two things at once.
Now get me a soda, I'm playing a game.
Neo Art, a man's man. :p
Poliwanacraca
28-05-2008, 16:54
I'm perfectly capable of doing two things at once.
Now get me a soda, I'm playing a game.
Heh, now that is the sort of comment that would tempt me to pick up the second controller and kick your character's ass. ;)
Neo Art, a man's man. :p
The trick is knowing who it works on, and who it doesn't.
Neo Art, a man's man. :p
I had NO idea he swung that way :D
Wilgrove
28-05-2008, 16:58
The trick is knowing who it works on, and who it doesn't.
Well it won't work on my lady's friend. Trust me, if you're dating a detention officer or anyone who is in uniform, you're not going to get away with it. ha!
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 16:58
Heh, now that is the sort of comment that would tempt me to pick up the second controller and kick your character's ass. ;)
I'd really like to be with the type of woman that would seriously do something like that. Although I'd hope she wouldn't think less of me for not being able to beat her.
I'd really like to be with the type of woman that would seriously do something like that. Although I'd hope she wouldn't think less of me for not being able to beat her.
I did date a woman like that for a good long while. Of course, she was the type that would taunt me and beat me, just to raise my ire so I would...well...beat her.
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 19:40
I did date a woman like that for a good long while. Of course, she was the type that would taunt me and beat me, just to raise my ire so I would...well...beat her.
... Yeah, I don't think I'd be interested in that type of thing.
Poliwanacraca
28-05-2008, 20:08
... Yeah, I don't think I'd be interested in that type of thing.
You might be surprised. ;)
Hey, Neo Art, I bet my favorite cute little girl character could totally beat your ass at Soul Calibur II. I'm just sayin'. :D
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 20:23
You might be surprised. ;)
Maybe. I don't have any experience concerning the matter after all.
Hey, Neo Art, I bet my favorite cute little girl character could totally beat your ass at Soul Calibur II. I'm just sayin'. :D
oh it's on
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 22:08
Are you talking about Tonfa-girl? She's one of my least favourite characters in that game, and the rest of the female cast is too proficient-looking for me to think of them as cute.
Poliwanacraca
28-05-2008, 22:22
Are you talking about Tonfa-girl? She's one of my least favourite characters in that game, and the rest of the female cast is too proficient-looking for me to think of them as cute.
"Tonfa" isn't the name of any of the characters here (I'm guessing this is a matter of different names in different countries), but the character I'm thinking of has pigtails and less in the way of boobage than the other females in the game. I'm rather good with her.
Of course, I'm sure I could beat Neo's ass as any of the other characters, too. I just figured it'd sting a bit more to get the bejeezus kicked out of him by a cute li'l girl. ;)
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 22:25
"Tonfa" isn't the name of any of the characters here (I'm guessing this is a matter of different names in different countries), but the character I'm thinking of has pigtails and less in the way of boobage than the other females in the game. I'm rather good with her.
Of course, I'm sure I could beat Neo's ass as any of the other characters, too. I just figured it'd sting a bit more to get the bejeezus kicked out of him by a cute li'l girl. ;)
I was referring to her weapons, which are tonfas IIRC... Those daggers/short-swords with the weird handles. I think we're talking about the same character.
Personally, my favourite character is Yoshimitsu, followed by the ninja, I think. I haven't played the game in a while, so I don't recall my non-first favourites.
Poliwanacraca
28-05-2008, 22:28
I was referring to her weapons, which are tonfas IIRC... Those daggers/short-swords with the weird handles. I think we're talking about the same character.
Ah, I didn't know what they were called. I call them "weird elbow blade thingies with which I slash the crap out of people." :p
Personally, my favourite character is Yoshimitsu, followed by the ninja, I think. I haven't played the game in a while, so I don't recall my non-first favourites.
Yoshimitsu is a good one, too. I'm a fan of pretty much all the small fast characters, and also Voldo for sheer weirdness factor.
Benevulon
28-05-2008, 22:33
Ah, I didn't know what they were called. I call them "weird elbow blade thingies with which I slash the crap out of people." :p
Yoshimitsu is a good one, too. I'm a fan of pretty much all the small fast characters, and also Voldo for sheer weirdness factor.
Oh yeah, Voldo. Forgot about him. I think he's my third-favourite. Personally, I like characters that really annoy the opponent. For instance, Yoshimitsu's attacks are usually really weird and eccentric, plus using the pogo-stance is like mocking the opponent, since it's so ridiculous.
And with the ninja, she can jump/roll/leap around very quickly, then almost immediately go for a flanking attack or somesuch without stopping, then immediately go back to moving around.
I don't recall why I don't like the tonfa-girl. I think I didn't like her attack style. Was it a fast, in-your-face kind of fighting style? I usually don't like those.
Santiago I
29-05-2008, 00:10
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
tl;dr
Bussy playing GTA 4
Outside!?!?! arent there like...bears there?
This much is true. That game is crack and must be stopped. :(
Can I assume I would be immune to the addictive properties of crack then?
I played that game for a bit(without having to pay for it luckily, as that is the only way I would consider trying it), and I couldn't really get into it. All in all it didn't interest me enough to get my character past level 14 or something. That isn't because I don't like MMORPGs either, since I have played others and enjoyed them far more. Then again, I never became addicted to them either.
TJHairball
29-05-2008, 00:57
As others have said, being a gamer is perfectly fine - more than fine, in fact, since I'm definitely a fan of video games myself and dearly love the geeky-boys. Being addicted to games to the point where he doesn't pay attention to me is not.
I am somehow brought around to a conjectural answer to the original point:
Why date a video game addict? Because they're relatively easy to catch, easy to satisfy, and easy to keep. They need relatively little watering - and yet, WoW-widow or not, you can still honestly say "I have a boyfriend," which is in entirely too many cases a useful thing to say.
Nobel Hobos
29-05-2008, 01:32
You're not here for that.
...you're here for your tight, firm ass.
I laughed so hard at that
Wow. I'm starting to find it odd that people call me a hard-core gamer... For instance, when I get an RPG (or jRPG for the people that care), I immediately start looking online for a story-spoilers-less walkthrough. Maxing out on levels and going back to super over-kill that level 5 slime that annoyed you in the starting area is a lot more important to me than finding everything by myself.
I don't think I'll ever understand that.
I guess it makes a bit of sense in multi-player games, it's like getting up to speed so you can start to learn from the other players. But single-player ... it's just weird to me.
You just play to be immersed in the game and live the story? Why not just read a book?
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No, and I'm rather offended that you'd think I'm here to make stupid puns...
So I guess I should stop wasting brain-cycles on your name ?
I always thought it must be some kind of pun and I wasn't getting it.
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Meh, I don't play video games that often, I'm more of a computer game kind of person.
Um, I probably sound pathetic here, but ... aren't they the same thing ?
Consoles do some things that computers don't, but I still see them as sheer marketing, tying the software to the hardware and building in copy-protection. Surely the OP meant "console and computer games" when she said "video games" ...?
Now the lady that I am interested in, she is a huge gamer. She has at least a hundred titles for both XBox and PS3. I watch her play sometimes, and yea it does get boring to watch someone play a single player game, but hey, it what makes her happy.
Beside, she's a Detention Officer (High stress job), and she needs some way to wind down from the day.
Oh, crap man. When you moved in with her, any number of people here told you that living with your gf should happen once you know the relationship works, and not to get into bills and rosters and all that flatmate stuff with someone you might want to break up with. You said she'd just be a flatmate. Now you're interested in her.
Not saying it can't work, mind. But you'll regret it big time if the relationship turns sour.
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Outside!?!?! arent there like...bears there?
And dragons. You don't want a piece of that!
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I am somehow brought around to a conjectural answer to the original point:
Why date a video game addict? Because they're relatively easy to catch, easy to satisfy, and easy to keep. They need relatively little watering - and yet, WoW-widow or not, you can still honestly say "I have a boyfriend," which is in entirely too many cases a useful thing to say.
Makes sense! And if you wanted something more intense you could get some other boyfriend and your gamer probably wouldn't even notice ... ;)
Benevulon
29-05-2008, 01:36
I don't think I'll ever understand that.
I guess it makes a bit of sense in multi-player games, it's like getting up to speed so you can start to learn from the other players. But single-player ... it's just weird to me.
You just play to be immersed in the game and live the story? Why not just read a book?
I'm not sure what you're saying here. If you're telling me to go read a book, then my question is, how am I supposed to obliterate level 5 slimes in a book?
Greater Trostia
29-05-2008, 01:36
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I don't think I'll ever understand that.
I guess it makes a bit of sense in multi-player games, it's like getting up to speed so you can start to learn from the other players. But single-player ... it's just weird to me.
You just play to be immersed in the game and live the story? Why not just read a book?
Well, why read the book? When you can just play the game. Or for that matter, go watch a movie. Why watch movies, when there are books?
Obviously the different mediums appeal to different preferences or needs. For me, I can't compare the two. Reading books is a completely passive activity. You sit there, your eyes flicker across the page. It's a good way to fall asleep. Playing a game on the other hand, is interactive, you're doing something, there's audio and visual feedback based on your actions.
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
Is there no middle? I mean I do play a fair deal of GTA but thats normally after i spent the previous 5 hours outside and end up messing up my knee or gettin my arm cut up. The only reason i'm inside now is because i did something weird to my back.
It really seems to be a generational thing. Most of the guys I grew up with were mildly into video games, but nothing NEAR like the guys my brother's age, and younger. I'm starting to wonder if this is a major reason I can't stand younger guys. There's something about a guy who would willingly lock himself in his room for hours to stare frantically at a video screen that is a major turn off.
That being said, I have a thing for geeks. Perhaps just not video game geeks.
Women these days are being advised to just accept that most Western men are video game addicts. I say, give me the guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time :D
What say my fellow NS wimmin?
You say that as though " guys who like the outdoors, who have nice, firm asses and who don't feel that socialising is cutting into their gaming time" automatically describes guys who aren't into video games.
There's no difference between a guy who sits alone in a room playing video games for hours and a guy who sits alone in a room watching sports for hours. Yes, for the big games sports fans will get together and watch games in the presence of other men, but company isn't exactly the word to describe it. And it strongly parallels the gamer geeks practice of online gaming, which at least requires interaction and communication skills to be practiced.
We live in a sedentary age and most men are going to spend their free time sitting around unless they have the kind of job that lets them make a living working part-time hours.
the Great Dawn
29-05-2008, 02:15
This much is true. That game is crack and must be stopped. :(
Everything can tear people apart, really I know men and women with family's, kids and *gasp* social lives who all played WoW and even raid on regular basis. Don't base your opinion on fringes, you think all those 10-11 million people are similar to crack addicts? C'mon, it's just a game. I've been playing it for 1.5 years now, it's all about time management. I play it in the evenings only (raid times about 18:30 till 0:00 mostly) for about 3-4 evenings a week (and it's starting to bore me). It's all about 1 thing with games like WoW, and games in general: time management.
There's no difference between a guy who sits alone in a room playing video games for hours and a guy who sits alone in a room watching sports for hours. Yes, for the big games sports fans will get together and watch games in the presence of other men, but company isn't exactly the word to describe it. And it strongly parallels the gamer geeks practice of online gaming, which at least requires interaction and communication skills to be practiced.
Even gamers have something like that, they're called LAN-parties, and although I barely attend them, the times I did it I enjoyed them véry much. Gaming isn't just a solitary thing, it never was from the dawn of games in the stone age.
Well, why read the book? When you can just play the game. Or for that matter, go watch a movie. Why watch movies, when there are books?
Obviously the different mediums appeal to different preferences or needs. For me, I can't compare the two. Reading books is a completely passive activity. You sit there, your eyes flicker across the page. It's a good way to fall asleep. Playing a game on the other hand, is interactive, you're doing something, there's audio and visual feedback based on your actions.
I find both books and game awesome mediums for story telling. With games, I ám the main character, I control his actions and I'm in the middle of an epic story (think Half Life 2, I've never seen a game do such an awesome job in that, well perhaps BioShock :P). With books, I can let my fantasy go wild, I read the story and imagine everything around it. Both very different to me, reading a book is only passive when you lack imagination :P
Nobel Hobos
29-05-2008, 02:31
Well, why read the book? When you can just play the game. Or for that matter, go watch a movie. Why watch movies, when there are books?
Obviously the different mediums appeal to different preferences or needs. For me, I can't compare the two. Reading books is a completely passive activity. You sit there, your eyes flicker across the page. It's a good way to fall asleep. Playing a game on the other hand, is interactive, you're doing something, there's audio and visual feedback based on your actions.
You're obsessing on the "why not read a book" punchline. I didn't mean that reading books is better or anything like that (I hardly read them myself, prefer the searchable and diverse resources of the 'net. Also I'm poor and can't afford new books.)
It just seems to me that when you take the learning, thinking and experimenting part out of a game by using a walkthrough, you take the most interactive and most challenging part of the game away.
And I do think it's different with a multi-player game. Getting pwned by other people while you're trying to find the key for your gasmask is pointless. Getting pwned by them because they're plain better than you (from talent, not just practice or cheats) gives you an incentive to examine your bad habits and improve.
Taerkasten
29-05-2008, 02:57
No offence, but I have to question whether or not any of these 'younger guys' would have much interest in a woman (presumably older than them, given the pejorative use of the word 'younger') who's managed to rack up almost 9,000 posts on an internet forum in the space of two years...
And that's just assuming this is the only forum you post on, too.
You're awfully quick to throw that 'geek' word around, eh? :p
Muravyets
29-05-2008, 05:04
Some games are more fun alone than with another person playing, I could see why you might not want someone else to play with if you enjoy that type of game. However, some games are enhanced with another person playing.
I didn't mean I'd prefer to play solo games. I meant I prefer to enter a game world on my own, not with my life-partner-of-the-moment tagging along. This is because I like role-playing games, and sometimes I like to switch between genders and personalities very different from me (for instance, one MMORPG character I play I'm developing to use in a fiction project later), and I don't want any "what did it mean when you did/said that?" conversations later. I don't need a boyfriend to play games with for the same reason I don't need a boyfriend to help me shop for shoes or talk to my mother -- because while I'm doing them, I'm thinking about something other than him.
Muravyets
29-05-2008, 05:08
Sista, TESTIFY!
I've dumped alcoholics, party-addicts, criminals, and sports-freaks all because they got more excited about their various obsessions than they ever got about me, or any other woman. Something about that is a major turn off.
You no got the time? You no get the pussy.
Words to live by. :D
Muravyets
29-05-2008, 05:11
I'm perfectly capable of doing two things at once.
Now get me a soda, I'm playing a game.
Neo Art, a man's man. :p
Yes, but doomed to stay a thirsty one.
Neo Honey, if you can do two things at once, figure out how to get your own damned soda while you play. :p
Muravyets
29-05-2008, 05:19
I am somehow brought around to a conjectural answer to the original point:
Why date a video game addict? Because they're relatively easy to catch, easy to satisfy, and easy to keep. They need relatively little watering - and yet, WoW-widow or not, you can still honestly say "I have a boyfriend," which is in entirely too many cases a useful thing to say.
Easy to satisfy, but hard to get satisfaction from, which frankly, is far more important -- to me. As for the usefulness of the "I have a boyfriend" line, I have no trouble lying about that, if it isn't true when I need it to be. So yeah, really, getting and keeping a guy who is more into his game than his woman is more trouble than it's worth. I don't get enough out of it.
Intangelon
29-05-2008, 05:24
Oh the banter is a big part of the foreplay, forget the anteforeplay :D
As you wish!
Barringtonia
29-05-2008, 05:48
I am somehow brought around to a conjectural answer to the original point:
Why date a video game addict? Because they're relatively easy to catch, easy to satisfy, and easy to keep. They need relatively little watering - and yet, WoW-widow or not, you can still honestly say "I have a boyfriend," which is in entirely too many cases a useful thing to say.
I think this article is a good response:
Link (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/report_women_increasingly_choosing)
From which...
COLLEGE PARK, MD—According to a report published Monday in The Journal Of Gender Studies, many American women are bucking centuries of traditional gender roles by placing stunted, emotionally unfulfilling relationships on hold in order to pursue mind-numbing careers devoid of any upward mobility.
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"Avoiding dying alone at all costs is no longer the primary goal for many of today's women," Detweiller said. "Every year, millions of educated females discover that they can be just as underappreciated and ignored in the workplace as they can while doting on loutish and inattentive boyfriends."
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"So many of my friends ended up centering their lives around uncaring deadbeats," Taylor said. "I'm not saying that I won't date a series of emotionally distant men in the future, but for right now, I prefer to focus on carving out a solid career rut for myself."
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Though many women have echoed Taylor's sentiments, others feel that modern women need not be forced to choose. A growing number of pitiful-career-oriented females are finding ways to juggle the minimal demands of a low-profile job with the embittering drain of a futile relationship.
"There is nothing that says women can't experience the manifold of crippling defeats life has to offer," said Elizabeth Mooney, a 46-year-old career counselor. "A woman shouldn't feel as though she has to forfeit her chances of raising three disappointing children with a man she doesn't love simply because she chose to squander the best years of her life working as a career counselor."
Bitchkitten
29-05-2008, 06:13
Smunk,Sin-no natter how stupid they seem. They can be trained, even the average woman.We could all have well behaved men trained for the household,
Miss Extinction
29-05-2008, 09:35
Smunk,Sin-no natter how stupid they seem. They can be trained, even the average woman.We could all have well behaved men trained for the household,
When you have the hangover under control, please finish the sentence; it was just getting interesting. :D
Benevulon
29-05-2008, 10:26
You're obsessing on the "why not read a book" punchline. I didn't mean that reading books is better or anything like that (I hardly read them myself, prefer the searchable and diverse resources of the 'net. Also I'm poor and can't afford new books.)
It just seems to me that when you take the learning, thinking and experimenting part out of a game by using a walkthrough, you take the most interactive and most challenging part of the game away.
And I do think it's different with a multi-player game. Getting pwned by other people while you're trying to find the key for your gasmask is pointless. Getting pwned by them because they're plain better than you (from talent, not just practice or cheats) gives you an incentive to examine your bad habits and improve.
As I said, I play RPGs for the over-kill factor. Getting stuck in some meaningless puzzle for too long gets in the way of that, so if I see that I can't figure out what to do, walkthrough time. I also don't want to replay the RPG many times, so I look to see what kinds of secrets there are.
Oh, and I do read books.
TJHairball
29-05-2008, 11:17
As for the usefulness of the "I have a boyfriend" line, I have no trouble lying about that, if it isn't true when I need it to be.
To parents, to male and female peers, in situations sober, drunk, or just plain tactical? We're not just talking about referring to telling unwanted strange men to buzz off at bars and parties.
Clearly enough, plenty don't find any reason good enough to put up with the drawbacks of dating a video game addict. I'm simply suggesting a possible explanation to go into why some people actually do.
TJHairball
29-05-2008, 11:19
Smunk,Sin-no natter how stupid they seem. They can be trained, even the average woman.We could all have well behaved men trained for the household,
This, I suppose, brings to light another reason: Optimism.
Miss Extinction
29-05-2008, 11:28
This, I suppose, brings to light another reason: Optimism.
But: "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear."
Miss Extinction
29-05-2008, 11:29
I'm sure a sow's ear makes a very GOOD purse, but that's not my point.
My husband is the fucktard who can't just "beat" the game, he has to go back through and try to get everything, then he has to go back through and try to get everything with one life, or go through and try to get everything but not use any of his life force or go through and try to get everything except weapons and try to beat it that way... he's obsessed.
Luckily after nearly 8 years of marriage we have figured out the boundaries. He plays on nights when I am at the gym, on days when I am at work, and on Saturdays until about 2.
You are a very good wife for letting him game that much. I'm sure he appreciates you.
Greater Trostia
30-05-2008, 07:20
You're obsessing on the "why not read a book" punchline. I didn't mean that reading books is better or anything like that (I hardly read them myself, prefer the searchable and diverse resources of the 'net. Also I'm poor and can't afford new books.)
It just seems to me that when you take the learning, thinking and experimenting part out of a game by using a walkthrough, you take the most interactive and most challenging part of the game away.
Oh, I agree. Generally.
And yet, there's some issues here. Sometimes you just get stuck. There's no equivalent in a book, unless you pee on the pages or something. (Not that I do that. Really.) So to get toward the end you might need something of a walkthrough or you just get too frustrated trying to deal with gameplay that is lacking.
But I wasn't really talking about using walkthroughs. Guess that's what I get for coming into the conversation half-way.
And I do think it's different with a multi-player game. Getting pwned by other people while you're trying to find the key for your gasmask is pointless. Getting pwned by them because they're plain better than you (from talent, not just practice or cheats) gives you an incentive to examine your bad habits and improve.
Indeed. Competition breeds excellence. Foundation of capitalism, and it's a good one!
Miss Extinction
30-05-2008, 09:43
So to get toward the end you might need something of a walkthrough or you just get too frustrated trying to deal with gameplay that is lacking.
Fair. It was the idea of watching a walkthrough before trying the game that seemed strange to me.
Jello Biafra
30-05-2008, 12:19
*is feeling nosy and argumentative (more so than usual) today*
I didn't mean I'd prefer to play solo games. I meant I prefer to enter a game world on my own, not with my life-partner-of-the-moment tagging along. This is because I like role-playing games, and sometimes I like to switch between genders and personalities very different from me (for instance, one MMORPG character I play I'm developing to use in a fiction project later), and I don't want any "what did it mean when you did/said that?" conversations later. I don't need a boyfriend to play games with for the same reason I don't need a boyfriend to help me shop for shoes or talk to my mother -- because while I'm doing them, I'm thinking about something other than him.I can see why you might want to avoid awkward conversations in the future, and that would be a reason to not play with someone else. However, do you ever watch a movie with a bf and spend time watching the movie and not paying attention to him?
Smunk,Sin-no natter how stupid they seem. They can be trained, even the average woman.We could all have well behaved men trained for the household,Sounds good to me. Mine keeps spraying everywhere.
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 14:35
*is feeling nosy and argumentative (more so than usual) today*
I can see why you might want to avoid awkward conversations in the future, and that would be a reason to not play with someone else. However, do you ever watch a movie with a bf and spend time watching the movie and not paying attention to him?
If I did that, then I would be doing exactly what I find so unattractive about game addicts. I was raised to believe that it is rude to ignore people who are in the room with you. Especially if this man is my boyfriend, he should be the most important thing around me, when he's around me. I said before that women don't like being treated like an afterthought or as if something else (some mere object) is more interesting than them. I have been assuming men don't like it, either, and I would never do that to someone I claimed to like (let alone be in love with/attracted to).
There are some things I need to be completely inside my own head to do -- really intensely study a movie, for instance, or write, make artwork, or RP a character in an MMORPG (those are the only games I enjoy). I cannot bring myself to leave a real person sitting idle while I do that, ignoring them. If I'm with a person, then the other activity (game, movie, whatever) is the secondary activity, below the activity of being with them, but that means I can't really focus mentally on the non-them part of the day. The movie/game/etc will never take precedence over a person.
When I am with a person, then I'm WITH the PERSON. If I want to be mentally separate from them, then I get physically separate from them as well.
I was raised to believe that it is rude to ignore people who are in the room with you. Especially if this man is my boyfriend, he should be the most important thing around me, when he's around me.<snip>
Obviously, these two ojections are related, because when I am with a person, then I'm WITH the PERSON. If I want to be mentally separate from them, then I get physically separate from them as well.
Sometimes it's not practical to be physically separate when you're mentally separate - or times when you'll be mentally together from time to time so it's best to stay physically near so you're not constantly getting up and down, in and out.
There are some evenings when my wife and I want to be "together" but we're not doing the same thing together. I might be writing software, and I'll use the computer that's in the living room, and my wife might be doing something else - we might occasionally talk to each other, but we're both submerged mentally in something else most of the time.
We have a saying (my wife and I). We're comfortable enough in our relationship that we can walk somewhere, and I don't have to look and check to see where she is, or constantly get attention that reminds me she's in love with me (and vice versa) - I know she's there without having to think about it. We can be in the same room and do other things, and be in separate rooms and do other things - it's just not necessary for us to constantly massage each other's egos by insisting that "you're the most important thing in the room to me!"
When I am with a person, then I'm WITH the PERSON. If I want to be mentally separate from them, then I get physically separate from them as well.
I think I get what you are saying, and I can certainly understand the desire to have some physical privacy for some activities, but I don't automatically assume that I need to be WITH my partner whenever I'm physically with him. This is mainly because we have a small apartment, and we're pretty much always physically with one another whenever we're at home. No avoiding it. If I want to play Wii, then I'm going to be in the same room as my partner's desk, and that means that sometimes I'm playing Wii while he does work or plays another game or something. If I want to watch TV and he wants to eat lunch, we're in the same room. And so on.
It did feel weird at first, when we first moved in together, because we were used to only being around one another when we were doing something together.
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 14:47
I think this article is a good response:
Link (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/report_women_increasingly_choosing)
From which...
:fluffle: Thank you for this!! :D
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 14:48
To parents, to male and female peers, in situations sober, drunk, or just plain tactical? We're not just talking about referring to telling unwanted strange men to buzz off at bars and parties.
Clearly enough, plenty don't find any reason good enough to put up with the drawbacks of dating a video game addict. I'm simply suggesting a possible explanation to go into why some people actually do.
I only use the "I'm not single" excuse when I'm trying to quickly off-load a pest with as little fuss or back-chat as possible. I don't need it for any other reason. And unless the pest is real pest, I typically don't use it even when it's true.
Adunabar
30-05-2008, 14:55
Here's how you deal with it :http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TVhwwFHGEFI
I only use the "I'm not single" excuse when I'm trying to quickly off-load a pest with as little fuss or back-chat as possible. I don't need it for any other reason. And unless the pest is real pest, I typically don't use it even when it's true.
The burning question is: has Neo Art nailed you yet?
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 15:13
I think I get what you are saying, and I can certainly understand the desire to have some physical privacy for some activities, but I don't automatically assume that I need to be WITH my partner whenever I'm physically with him. This is mainly because we have a small apartment, and we're pretty much always physically with one another whenever we're at home. No avoiding it. If I want to play Wii, then I'm going to be in the same room as my partner's desk, and that means that sometimes I'm playing Wii while he does work or plays another game or something. If I want to watch TV and he wants to eat lunch, we're in the same room. And so on.
It did feel weird at first, when we first moved in together, because we were used to only being around one another when we were doing something together.
Let me be clear -- I am only describing myself. In no way am I suggesting that other people should be this way as well. That said, to explain myself further:
It's not that I can't play a game or read a book or do whatever with another person in the room. It's that I cannot let myself get so lost in it that, if the other person needs my attention, I will not instantly put down what I'm doing to attend to them. And I expect the same consideration in return.
When I was a kid, I lived with four adults. I'd be playing with toys in the living room. My grandfather would be playing the piano in the living room, practicing endlessly. My mother might be there, too, reading, or she might be upstairs fussing with other things. We wouldn't say a word to each other all day long sometimes. But heaven help any of us if my grandmother called us to dinner and we did not stop what we were doing immediately. If someone else needed us for anything, no matter how trivial, the right answer was "on my way," not "in a minute." If we wanted to pay attention to something else, the other person in the room stil had the absolute right to interrupt us with chat, etc, because they were living human beings and more important than a book or a football game. Why? Because ignoring people was declared rude, and rudeness was simply uncalled-for (read: unforgivable sin).
If anyone, from head-of-the-household grandpa on down were to say, "I'll be with you when I'm done with this hobby of mine" there would have been hell to pay. The lectures I heard (both as target and audience) included the actual words: "That is not how you treat people." That message was repeated and demonstrated throughout my formative years. You do not put things ahead of people, period.
Now, this creates an inconvenience for me, because I need to compartmentalize my space for when I need that quality alone time. This is why I have never had a housemate since leaving my family's home, and why I would never move in with a boyfriend unless we had sufficient space for us each to have one room to ourselves -- a private retreat for each of us. For those things that require total mental focus, I just can't maintain it with the awareness of another person hovering on the periphery.
Back to topic, to me, the difference between normal people and game-addicts is that the addicts DO put the game ahead of people. They will make real human beings wait or compete for their attention against something as trivial as a video game, and that is something I simply cannot tolerate. Personally.
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 15:17
The burning question is: has Neo Art nailed you yet?
*whacks Hotwife across the nose with a rolled up newspaper* BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT!
*whacks Hotwife across the nose with a rolled up newspaper* BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT!
Just following up on the rumors...
Heaven Helpers
30-05-2008, 15:27
Heck no!
I no some girls who like to play video games...however don't know how often....but I don't play video games hardly ever and I would not stand it if
my woman played video games all the time...takes away from more important things!...:)P
Muravyets
30-05-2008, 15:39
Just following up on the rumors...
*Whacks with newspaper again*
*Whacks with newspaper again*
*ouch*
Sparkelle
30-05-2008, 17:12
So, basically OP is saying she doesn't want to date her brother or a copy of him.
Jello Biafra
30-05-2008, 17:24
/snipOh, I get it, feeling you need to divide your attention but not wanting to is a pain in the ass.
The burning question is: has Neo Art nailed you yet?
....
The fuck?
TJHairball
31-05-2008, 00:01
I only use the "I'm not single" excuse when I'm trying to quickly off-load a pest with as little fuss or back-chat as possible. I don't need it for any other reason. And unless the pest is real pest, I typically don't use it even when it's true.
In which case you are one of the fortunate. I have known too many who have felt they needed it for other reasons, mostly relating to social pressure and identity-by-relationship ("you are who you date" as opposed to "you are what you do" as opposed to "you are what you like to do" etc.)
Katganistan
31-05-2008, 00:17
The burning question is: has Neo Art nailed you yet?
Poor taste, and might be considered borderline baiting. Knock it off.
Miss Extinction
31-05-2008, 00:17
In which case you are one of the fortunate. I have known too many who have felt they needed it for other reasons, mostly relating to social pressure and identity-by-relationship
So the gamer bf wouldn't even really need to be straight. Just so long as he scrubs up OK and turns out to weddings, office parties and the occasional promenade?
I've known gays and lesbians to shack up together for just that reason.
Dreamlovers
31-05-2008, 00:18
If he has a great personality and I find him hot, why not?
Muravyets
31-05-2008, 00:49
Oh, I get it, feeling you need to divide your attention but not wanting to is a pain in the ass.
Yeah, ok, yes, thank you, Captain Succinct. That is what I meant. :p
Muravyets
31-05-2008, 00:51
In which case you are one of the fortunate. I have known too many who have felt they needed it for other reasons, mostly relating to social pressure and identity-by-relationship ("you are who you date" as opposed to "you are what you do" as opposed to "you are what you like to do" etc.)
That's actually really sad. I guess I am fortunate.