NationStates Jolt Archive


Blogofascists

Barringtonia
27-05-2008, 08:35
A fairly interesting article by Lee Spiegel, who was caught praising himself on his own blog under an assumed name. He gives some background and reasons, I'm sure it's a little tl:dr for some so here's the link (http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/visualart/story/0,,2282309,00.html) and then a few excerpts - if I'm in the mood, I might do a fancy poll.

Unlike any other magazine, newspaper, website or blog that I have ever heard of, the New Republic decided not to filter or edit the online comments.What followed was a curious set of revelations.

The most impassioned, as well as the most hysterical and abusive respondents, were usually defenders of conventional taste. Strange, I know. The web is supposed to be the great outlet for dissent, but I was screechingly condemned when, for example, I suggested that Daily Show host Jon Stewart was too sarcastic to be funny, and that he pandered to his demographic. There were so many negative responses to that column that the New Republic's server broke down.

The real danger confronting criticism on the web is that, in the name of "anti-elitism" and "the voice of the people", real dissent (which looks elitist because it is rare) will be drowned out by posturing mobs. So the question is not whither the authority of the critic, but whither the power of resistance that the best criticism represents? And what happens when established critics who take on established taste start trying to please their detractors, in order to save themselves?

Essentially, being overwhelmed by anonymous criticism, he used a puppet to fight back against the more abusive criticism because he felt that using his own name delegitimized his message since it would be seen as him defending himself.

I sort of disagree and find that people, when faced with criticism of their opinions, whether in forums, blogs or wherever, tend to take it personally and lose the perspective that people can read and comprehend for themselves, there'll always be people who disagree but people can make up their own minds. Yet I can understand his frustration in feeling he had no means of addressing these opinions and feeling his opinion was being suppressed by the weight of the mob.

So, is the Internet leading to homogenization of public opinion or greater variety of public opinion. Does it encourage dissent or suppress it? Is it gathering different minds together or is it simply dividing opinions into say those who agree with the overall sentiments of NSG compared to those of, say, Stormfront.
New Malachite Square
27-05-2008, 08:52
…real dissent (which looks elitist because it is rare)…

Lawl. I'm not sure I agree with him beyond that, as I don't think the Internet is any different in the mob-drown respect than any other form of media. It's just a lot easier to post your hate-rant here than anywhere else, thanks to Web 2.0.
Damor
27-05-2008, 09:03
Why didn't he use a proxy? Paranoia is your friend.
Allanea
27-05-2008, 09:05
"real" dissent? Who's he to judge what's real?

Of course, TNR is trash.
Barringtonia
27-05-2008, 09:11
"real" dissent? Who's he to judge what's real?

Of course, TNR is trash.

No, you're trash!

Actually, I have no idea as to the leanings and quality of the New Republic.

Does anyone here think they'd stand much chance debating, say, immigration on Stormfront then or do they think the odds are against them because of the weight of numbers?

Does the weight of numbers count?
New Limacon
28-05-2008, 01:48
It reminds me of that chapter from Democracy in America by Tocqueville, which can be found here (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/detoc/1_ch15.htm). An excerpt:

Fetters and headsmen were the coarse instruments that tyranny formerly employed; but the civilization of our age has perfected despotism itself, though it seemed to have nothing to learn. Monarchs had, so to speak, materialized oppression; the democratic republics of the present day have rendered it as entirely an affair of the mind as the will which it is intended to coerce. Under the absolute sway of one man the body was attacked in order to subdue the soul; but the soul escaped the blows which were directed against it and rose proudly superior. Such is not the course adopted by tyranny in democratic republics; there the body is left free, and the soul is enslaved. The master no longer says: "You shall think as I do or you shall die"; but he says: "You are free to think differently from me and to retain your life, your property, and all that you possess; but you are henceforth a stranger among your people. You may retain your civil rights, but they will be useless to you, for you will never be chosen by your fellow citizens if you solicit their votes; and they will affect to scorn you if you ask for their esteem. You will remain among men, but you will be deprived of the rights of mankind. Your fellow creatures will shun you like an impure being; and even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they should be shunned in their turn. Go in peace! I have given you your life, but it is an existence worse than death."

The Web has democratized dissemination of knowledge and information. And like the democratic republic, the democratic Internet lends itself to tyranny of the majority.
Blogs are actually a fairly good example of "checks and balances" in the Web. The "elitist" gets to pick the topic and is bound to get the most attention, but the "masses" can speak up in comments. I think Siegel's posing was unacceptable because it was his blog, and he could defend his points and himself with it.